Billie Eilish criticize artists releasing several vinyl variants

BF25394 said:

Because there are bigger things that one could do to help the world does not mean that one should not do small things to help the world.

Our individual choices add up. I have always driven a small car that gets high mileage per gallon. Does this amount to a "drop in the bucket" of oil consumption? Well, yes and no. It actually adds up to thousands of barrels of oil compared to a larger car or SUV over the lifetime of the car, which is figuratively, though not literally, a "drop in the bucket." However, if each of us makes similar choices, then we can collectively put a dent in the problem. But I don't throw my hands up and trade in my car when I see someone blow by me in a Hummer. I still do my part.

It kind of reminds me of when I saw Pearl Jam at the Gorge in 2006 and was thrilled to see they were donating $5 of every ticket to local food banks. But then at the gate, the band’s head of security was ordering the confiscation of all food being brought into the venue and threw it in the garbage, including about $20 in sandwiches and other food I wanted to bring in for the show with my wife. There was a disconnect there: “Too many people are still going hungry, but it’s OK to waste thousands of pounds of perfectly good food.” In my work, I see the effects of real hunger on disadvantaged families. So this kind of virtue signaling is abhorrent to me.

 It is monetisation of the band. Vinyl, merch, posters, tickets etc. They still put on one of the best live shows, which is all that matters to me.

bicyclejoe said:

Of course, the sad reality is that streaming music is more damaging to the planet than producing vinyl records. Storing and processing downloaded music require vast data centers that use tremendous amounts of resources and energy.

Just highlighting this. I don't know if its more damaging in the long run or not, but it's definitely a good point that everything we do has consequences.  That said, I wonder what the "limited edition colored variant" percentage of landfills is? Like, how many records end up in landfills or the ocean? Probably close to 0. Even scratched or broken ones can get framed or repurposed. And in the spirit of the regional ones, its to help local businesses, so I'm all for it. I collect records, but I am not a "completist". Its good to have hobbies, but I wont lose any sleep over not having every possible variant. Just want to track down my local one, help my local community and have a cool other color to spin.

bicyclejoe said:

BF25394 said:

Because there are bigger things that one could do to help the world does not mean that one should not do small things to help the world.

Our individual choices add up. I have always driven a small car that gets high mileage per gallon. Does this amount to a "drop in the bucket" of oil consumption? Well, yes and no. It actually adds up to thousands of barrels of oil compared to a larger car or SUV over the lifetime of the car, which is figuratively, though not literally, a "drop in the bucket." However, if each of us makes similar choices, then we can collectively put a dent in the problem. But I don't throw my hands up and trade in my car when I see someone blow by me in a Hummer. I still do my part.

It kind of reminds me of when I saw Pearl Jam at the Gorge in 2006 and was thrilled to see they were donating $5 of every ticket to local food banks. But then at the gate, the band’s head of security was ordering the confiscation of all food being brought into the venue and threw it in the garbage, including about $20 in sandwiches and other food I wanted to bring in for the show with my wife. There was a disconnect there: “Too many people are still going hungry, but it’s OK to waste thousands of pounds of perfectly good food.” In my work, I see the effects of real hunger on disadvantaged families. So this kind of virtue signaling is abhorrent to me.

It’s hard to be pure. But the prophets should at least try to live into the prophecy. 

It was the band's head of security and not the venue's? That really is a disconnect.

She lost me at sustainable.. 

A bit absurd. Fans buy vinyl and keep them for decades, they don’t end up in landfills or getting burned for a long time.

now…converting a traditional tour where 4 musicians and their staff travel the country and instead 200,000 fans travel on planes to a single location. Also  water, food and all sustenance  needs to be trucked into the middle of a desert. That’s an enormous and immediate negative carbon footprint.

Lerxst1992 said:

A bit absurd. Fans buy vinyl and keep them for decades, they don’t end up in landfills or getting burned for a long time.

now…converting a traditional tour where 4 musicians and their staff travel the country and instead 200,000 fans travel on planes to a single location. Also  water, food and all sustenance  needs to be trucked into the middle of a desert. That’s an enormous and immediate negative carbon footprint.

The issue is more at the point of manufacturing. If these things of marginal utility (i.e., color variants, or four separate versions differing only by one track) are not created, then no resources are used to make them (and there's no need to eventually dispose of them).

Loujoe said:

Me: "will you want these records after I die?"
Kid:"ehhh [not wanting to hurt my feelings] ehhhhhhhhhh.....uhhhh no...maybe a couple..."

"Cool, then sell this one, its an RSD Regional Variant, there were only like 1500 made. Its worth a ton!"

I remind myself that it is helping local shops. Pretty cool move imo. May be nieave (sp) but I like to keep things light. Dig?

MS149515 said:

Like a lemming, I bought all the recent variants the past few years; No Code, LO2L, Vs., Yield and now pre-ordered the Dark Matter Trio on 10C and was going to get the RSD version. The announcement of the 12 indie variants really annoyed me because it’s blatant consumerism and it’s making me rethink all the money that I’ve pumped into March the past decade. Trimming down looks like a good approach now, and it looks ridiculous when you have 4 versions of the same music sitting together on the shelf. As another poster wrote, your relatives (probably) won’t care when you’re gone. 

Also, there is no single greater cause of pollution than a human being but no one wants to acknowledge the obvious truth. Anyone pumping out more two kids is only contributing to planetary harm. If you disagree with me, start drawing a family tree and add an extra descendant in each pairing and see how quick it expands. Then factor in that there is only 1 Earth, and a lot of it isn’t habitable. If you’re reading this, you don’t live in a society where infant mortality is a threat to continued existence, simplification is the key but we don’t want to go down that path. I don’t think we should live in a hippie commune, but our innate “me, me, me” attitude has taken society to a point where all we do is bicker because we don’t want to concede anything. 

“But I want a big family!!!!!!!!” Go adopt or foster, stop being selfish and help out another kid that needs it. Your DNA is not that important and the vast majority of us won’t be remembered after two generations. 

Barf. 

People may be selfish, but it doesn't really manifest itself through breeding anymore. The birth rate in the U.S. has been in steep decline for a while, and the average American woman today has half as many children as in 1950, and has children at a rate below the replacement rate to maintain a stable population. This is why we need immigrants. Otherwise, we'll end up with a really old population and economic stagnation.