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bootlegger10 said:Lerxst1992 said:johnny__utah said:More I think about it, Eddie and Mike being spotted at multiple U2 sphere shows, the rumor of the band being at the sphere studios in burbank, the likelyhood of visuals behind the stage as part of this tour, a number of people urging those on the fence about seeing them in europe this tour or waiting to 'see them now' as if the future isn't happening, think we will be seeing each other in Vegas at the Sphere in 2025 or 2026.I think it’s great that fans like the sphere, but as a New Yorker, it’s just more pain caused by the Dolan family. To read comments like this is depressing.
I think it’s exciting that fans like the U2 shows in Vegas. To me, sitting on a steep ski slope in front of an enormous screen and a tiny stage forcing fans to sit the majority of the show is not a decent concert experience. All of a sudden PJ is going to transform into a Tool or Rush type band with dynamic light shows (I like both those bands and their live shows)?
PJ spent a career building a legacy of being surrounded by their fans getting the garden and other arenas to shake and rock. They are going to transform everything they worked…for what? Depressing.
Also, this new norm where bands are expecting fans to travel long distance …it’s one thing for a mini festival like Phish just did in Cancun, but to replace an entire tour is about the worst carbon footprint four or five men can create. Instead of a couple hundred traveling, we are going to expect 400,000 fans to hop in planes now? And, Vegas has no resources, everything consumed there, food and water, must be transported long distances. That’s hardly saving the planet. Thanks Jimmy and Chuck.
What the Sphere has that the arenas do not is amazing sound and an amazing visual experience that everyone leaves amazed by.
I can agree with you on the carbon footprint, but PJ playing the Sphere is a drop in the bucket of people going to Vegas to vacation each day or attend conferences.
The sound was incredible and the resolution of the screen is insane. I think it's something like 14K if I'm recalling correctly.
It was my first time going to Vegas (never had any interest) and now, I'm all for going back.
It will be interesting to see what type of stage Phish and Dead and Co use. The U2 stage was based on a turntable designed by Brian Eno, so I'm not sure if other bands will be using it as well. It was slightly higher than an arena stage, more like stadium show height.
There have been some rumors that Goose might play there for their annual Goosemas. Their light show would be perfect for that venue. If Pearl Jam play a residency there as I do expect they will at some point, we will definitely go. But, like others have said, if they are using the screen capabilities similarly to what U2 did, then that would limit spontaneity. If they're simply using it as a video backdrop that isn't choreographed to a setlist, that leaves their options open. We should learn from the Phish shows next month.2003 Spectrum, Camden 2, Holmdel 2004 Reading, PA 2005 Philly 2006 Hartford, Camden 1&2, E. Rutherford 1&2 2008 Camden 1&2, MSG 1&2 2009 Spectrum 1,2,3,4 2010 Hartford, Newark, MSG 1&2 2013 Wrigley, Pittsburgh, Brooklyn 1&2, Philly 1&2, Baltimore 2014 Leeds, Cincinnati 2015 GCF 2016 Sunrise, Miami, Hampton, Philly 1&2, MSG 1&2, Fenway 1&2 2017 RHoF Induction 2018 Seattle 1&2 Fenway 1&2 2021 Sea Hear Now 2022 Hamilton, Toronto, MSG, Camden 2023 Indy 2024 Indy, MSG 1&2, Philly 1&2, Baltimore0 -
bootlegger10 said:Lerxst1992 said:johnny__utah said:More I think about it, Eddie and Mike being spotted at multiple U2 sphere shows, the rumor of the band being at the sphere studios in burbank, the likelyhood of visuals behind the stage as part of this tour, a number of people urging those on the fence about seeing them in europe this tour or waiting to 'see them now' as if the future isn't happening, think we will be seeing each other in Vegas at the Sphere in 2025 or 2026.I think it’s great that fans like the sphere, but as a New Yorker, it’s just more pain caused by the Dolan family. To read comments like this is depressing.
I think it’s exciting that fans like the U2 shows in Vegas. To me, sitting on a steep ski slope in front of an enormous screen and a tiny stage forcing fans to sit the majority of the show is not a decent concert experience. All of a sudden PJ is going to transform into a Tool or Rush type band with dynamic light shows (I like both those bands and their live shows)?
PJ spent a career building a legacy of being surrounded by their fans getting the garden and other arenas to shake and rock. They are going to transform everything they worked…for what? Depressing.
Also, this new norm where bands are expecting fans to travel long distance …it’s one thing for a mini festival like Phish just did in Cancun, but to replace an entire tour is about the worst carbon footprint four or five men can create. Instead of a couple hundred traveling, we are going to expect 400,000 fans to hop in planes now? And, Vegas has no resources, everything consumed there, food and water, must be transported long distances. That’s hardly saving the planet. Thanks Jimmy and Chuck.
What the Sphere has that the arenas do not is amazing sound and an amazing visual experience that everyone leaves amazed by.
I can agree with you on the carbon footprint, but PJ playing the Sphere is a drop in the bucket of people going to Vegas to vacation each day or attend conferences.U2 had hundreds of thousands of fans who otherwise would take a local train to the city to see their show. We can explain/justify this carbon footprint however it fits our tastes and desires. To me, this is taking something that for decades was local and turning it into long distance airfare and transportation of precious food and water resources into a desert.
people love it, and that’s great. And I understand the photos don’t do it justice. Just having a tough time digesting this photo as a concert experience. It looks much steeper than any indoor arena , like it’s turning the arena concert experience into a stadium0 -
just checking if all MSG resell will be above retail or will be lucky to find $175 tickets off f2f?ride amongst the waves...0
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Will be disappointing if the band adds a back screen, especially at the expense of seats. I know it’s the “thing” now but they have always held on to music being the focal point.Also you can have a visual and still sell the back. Billy Joel has small “sliver” visuals hung high that you can even see backwards in the back bowl.DC '03 - Reading '04 - Philly '05 - Camden 1 '06 - DC '06 - E. Rutherford '06 - The Vic '07 - Lollapalooza '07 - DC '08 - EV DC 1 & 2 '08 (Met Ed!!) - EV Baltimore 1 & 2 '09 - EV NYC 1 '11 (Met Ed!) - Hartford '13 - GCF '15 - MSG 2 '16 - TOTD MSG '16 - Boston 1 & 2 '18 - SHN '21 - EV NYC 1 & 2 '22 - MSG '220
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OceansJenny said:Will be disappointing if the band adds a back screen, especially at the expense of seats. I know it’s the “thing” now but they have always held on to music being the focal point.Also you can have a visual and still sell the back. Billy Joel has small “sliver” visuals hung high that you can even see backwards in the back bowl.0
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PJNB said:OceansJenny said:Will be disappointing if the band adds a back screen, especially at the expense of seats. I know it’s the “thing” now but they have always held on to music being the focal point.Also you can have a visual and still sell the back. Billy Joel has small “sliver” visuals hung high that you can even see backwards in the back bowl.1996: Randall's Island 2 1998: East Rutherford | MSG 1 & 2 2000: Cincinnati | Columbus | Jones Beach 1, 2, & 3 | Boston 1 | Camden 1 & 2 2003: Philadelphia | Uniondale | MSG 1 & 2 | Holmdel 2005: Atlantic City 1 2006: Camden 1 | East Rutherford 1 & 2 2008: Camden 1 & 2 | MSG 1 & 2 (#25) | Newark (EV) 2009: Philadelphia 1, 2 & 4 2010: Newark | MSG 1 & 2 2011: Toronto 1 2013: Wrigley Field | Brooklyn 2 | Philadelphia 1 & 2 | Baltimore 2015: Central Park 2016: Philadelphia 1 & 2 | MSG 1 & 2 | Fenway Park 2 | MSG (TOTD) 2017: Brooklyn (RnR HOF) 2020: MSG | Asbury Park 2021: Asbury Park 2022: MSG | Camden | Nashville 2024: MSG 1 & 2 (#50) | Philadelphia 1 & 2 | Baltimore 2025: Raleigh0
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Got me thinking, maybe this is why more people got floor seats this year….the screen might not be fully viewable from the side sections?2003: Uniondale, MSG x2 | 2004: Reading | 2005: Gorge, Vancouver, Philly | 2006: East Rutherford x2, Gorge x2, Camden 1, Hartford | 2008: MSG x2, VA Beach | 2009: Philly x3 | 2010: MSG x2, Bristow | 2011: Alpine Valley x2 | 2012: MIA Philly | 2013: Wrigley, Charlottesville, Brooklyn 2 | 2014: Milan, Amsterdam 1 | 2016: MSG x2, Fenway x2, Wrigley 2 | 2018: Rome, Krakow, Berlin, Wrigley 2 | 2021: Sea Hear Now | 2022: San Diego, LA x2, MSG, Camden, Nashville, St. Louis, Denver | 2023: St. Paul 1, Chicago x2, Fort Worth x2, Austin 2 | 2024: Las Vegas 1, Seattle x2, Indy, MSG x2, Philly x2, Baltimore, Ohana 2 | 2025: Florida x2, Atlanta x2, Pittsburgh x20
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PJNB said:OceansJenny said:Will be disappointing if the band adds a back screen, especially at the expense of seats. I know it’s the “thing” now but they have always held on to music being the focal point.Also you can have a visual and still sell the back. Billy Joel has small “sliver” visuals hung high that you can even see backwards in the back bowl.0
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My L.A. tickets are side stage, really close to Mike. Hopefully they are not obstructed by any new possible production fixtures.0
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Lerxst1992 said:Go Beavers said:Who’s going to be sitting down?The fans taking shrooms gazing at the wild laser show and huge screens.
seriously, it’s a much different dynamic than their 360 degree immersive experience with the fans.
Agreed. I'm kind of disappointed about this decision. I would even go as far as saying I'm bummed out over it. I just can't fathom why the band thought this was a cool direction to go in.
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JOEJOEJOE said:My L.A. tickets are side stage, really close to Mike. Hopefully they are not obstructed by any new possible production fixtures.If the screen wasn't 90 degrees to my left, and if it was in focus (presumably a first-night-of-the-tour problem), then it would have been less distracting. I also noticed Mike was more stationary than average when there were closeups of his fretboard, so I think there's a few show moments where he's on a leash because of it.
Folks in most parts of the arena seemed to like it, so I felt like a minority for speaking up on. So either I'm weird or it was the seat location
On the plus side, you'll also get a great view of Josh from your seat, and it turns out he's a fascinating dude to watch in his very unique way.
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I saw U2 at MSG from behind the stage. You couldn't see the band until the last song. So basically staring at the screen.I miss igotid880
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igotid88 said:I saw U2 at MSG from behind the stage. You couldn't see the band until the last song. So basically staring at the screen.0
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