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  • More I think about it, Eddie and Mike being spotted at multiple U2 sphere shows, the rumor of the band being at the sphere studios in burbank, the likelyhood of visuals behind the stage as part of this tour, a number of people urging those on the fence about seeing them in europe this tour or waiting to 'see them now' as if the future isn't happening, think we will be seeing each other in Vegas at the Sphere in 2025 or 2026. 

    I think it’s great that fans like the sphere, but as a New Yorker, it’s just more pain caused by the Dolan family. To read comments like this is depressing.

    I think it’s exciting that fans like the U2 shows in Vegas. To me, sitting on a steep ski slope in front of an enormous screen and a tiny stage forcing fans to sit the majority of the show is not a decent concert experience. All of a sudden PJ is going to transform into a Tool or Rush type band with dynamic light shows (I like both those bands and their live shows)?

    PJ spent a career building a legacy of being surrounded by their fans getting the garden and other arenas to shake and rock. They are going to transform everything they worked…for what? Depressing.

    Also, this new norm where bands are expecting fans to travel long distance …it’s one thing for a mini festival like Phish just did in Cancun, but to replace an entire tour is about the worst carbon footprint four or five men can create. Instead of a couple hundred traveling, we are going to expect 400,000 fans to hop in planes now? And, Vegas has no resources, everything consumed there, food and water, must be transported long distances. That’s hardly saving the planet. Thanks Jimmy and Chuck.
    The Sphere had GA.  The Sphere had lower bowl that had great seats for seeing the stage.  The Sphere had upper bowl tickets where you'd be looking at the screens more than the stage.   Hmmn....you could easily replace "The Sphere" with "The United Center", "Wrigley Field", "MSG", etc.... and the statements are still true.

    What the Sphere has that the arenas do not is amazing sound and an amazing visual experience that everyone leaves amazed by.  

    I can agree with you on the carbon footprint, but PJ playing the Sphere is a drop in the bucket of people going to Vegas to vacation each day or attend conferences.  
    We had 100 level for the second to last U2 show and GA for the final night. It was such a fantastic experience - impossible to explain how great it was to someone who wasn't there - the pro shot video will never do it justice.

    The sound was incredible and the resolution of the screen is insane. I think it's something like 14K if I'm recalling correctly.

    It was my first time going to Vegas (never had any interest) and now, I'm all for going back. 

    It will be interesting to see what type of stage Phish and Dead and Co use. The U2 stage was based on a turntable designed by Brian Eno, so I'm not sure if other bands will be using it as well. It was slightly higher than an arena stage, more like stadium show height.

    There have been some rumors that Goose might play there for their annual Goosemas. Their light show would be perfect for that venue. If Pearl Jam play a residency there as I do expect they will at some point, we will definitely go. But, like others have said, if they are using the screen capabilities similarly to what U2 did, then that would limit spontaneity. If they're simply using it as a video backdrop that isn't choreographed to a setlist, that leaves their options open. We should learn from the Phish shows next month.
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  • Lerxst1992
    Lerxst1992 Posts: 7,772
    More I think about it, Eddie and Mike being spotted at multiple U2 sphere shows, the rumor of the band being at the sphere studios in burbank, the likelyhood of visuals behind the stage as part of this tour, a number of people urging those on the fence about seeing them in europe this tour or waiting to 'see them now' as if the future isn't happening, think we will be seeing each other in Vegas at the Sphere in 2025 or 2026. 

    I think it’s great that fans like the sphere, but as a New Yorker, it’s just more pain caused by the Dolan family. To read comments like this is depressing.

    I think it’s exciting that fans like the U2 shows in Vegas. To me, sitting on a steep ski slope in front of an enormous screen and a tiny stage forcing fans to sit the majority of the show is not a decent concert experience. All of a sudden PJ is going to transform into a Tool or Rush type band with dynamic light shows (I like both those bands and their live shows)?

    PJ spent a career building a legacy of being surrounded by their fans getting the garden and other arenas to shake and rock. They are going to transform everything they worked…for what? Depressing.

    Also, this new norm where bands are expecting fans to travel long distance …it’s one thing for a mini festival like Phish just did in Cancun, but to replace an entire tour is about the worst carbon footprint four or five men can create. Instead of a couple hundred traveling, we are going to expect 400,000 fans to hop in planes now? And, Vegas has no resources, everything consumed there, food and water, must be transported long distances. That’s hardly saving the planet. Thanks Jimmy and Chuck.
    The Sphere had GA.  The Sphere had lower bowl that had great seats for seeing the stage.  The Sphere had upper bowl tickets where you'd be looking at the screens more than the stage.   Hmmn....you could easily replace "The Sphere" with "The United Center", "Wrigley Field", "MSG", etc.... and the statements are still true.

    What the Sphere has that the arenas do not is amazing sound and an amazing visual experience that everyone leaves amazed by.  

    I can agree with you on the carbon footprint, but PJ playing the Sphere is a drop in the bucket of people going to Vegas to vacation each day or attend conferences.  

    U2 had hundreds of thousands of fans who otherwise would take a local train to the city to see their show. We can explain/justify this carbon footprint however it fits our tastes and desires. To me, this is taking something that for decades was local and turning it into long distance airfare and transportation of precious food and water resources into a desert.

    people love it, and that’s great. And I understand the photos don’t do it justice. Just having a tough time digesting this photo as a concert experience. It looks much steeper than any indoor arena , like it’s turning the arena concert experience into a stadium


  • PinoyPJ
    PinoyPJ Los Angeles, CA Posts: 383
    just checking if all MSG resell will be above retail or will be lucky to find $175 tickets off f2f?
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  • AlaG
    AlaG Brookline, MA Posts: 979
    PinoyPJ said:
    just checking if all MSG resell will be above retail or will be lucky to find $175 tickets off f2f?
    MSG isn’t gonna have much if any fan to fan since they can’t enforce their typical ticket resale policies in the state.
  • OceansJenny
    OceansJenny Manhattan, NY Posts: 3,409
    Will be disappointing if the band adds a back screen, especially at the expense of seats. I know it’s the “thing” now but they have always held on to music being the focal point. 

    Also you can have a visual and still sell the back. Billy Joel has small “sliver” visuals hung high that you can even see backwards in the back bowl.
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  • PJNB
    PJNB Posts: 13,890
    Will be disappointing if the band adds a back screen, especially at the expense of seats. I know it’s the “thing” now but they have always held on to music being the focal point. 

    Also you can have a visual and still sell the back. Billy Joel has small “sliver” visuals hung high that you can even see backwards in the back bowl.
    Stone said they are still working on the production which seems a bit crazy being 6 weeks from the start of the tour. If so maybe they are waiting to see what seats they can sell with limited view 
  • on2legs
    on2legs Posts: 15,943
    PJNB said:
    Will be disappointing if the band adds a back screen, especially at the expense of seats. I know it’s the “thing” now but they have always held on to music being the focal point. 

    Also you can have a visual and still sell the back. Billy Joel has small “sliver” visuals hung high that you can even see backwards in the back bowl.
    Stone said they are still working on the production which seems a bit crazy being 6 weeks from the start of the tour. If so maybe they are waiting to see what seats they can sell with limited view 
    Good point.  That makes sense. 
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  • Got me thinking, maybe this is why more people got floor seats this year….the screen might not be fully viewable from the side sections? 
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  • BloodMeridian80
    BloodMeridian80 Seattle Posts: 715
    PJNB said:
    Will be disappointing if the band adds a back screen, especially at the expense of seats. I know it’s the “thing” now but they have always held on to music being the focal point. 

    Also you can have a visual and still sell the back. Billy Joel has small “sliver” visuals hung high that you can even see backwards in the back bowl.
    Stone said they are still working on the production which seems a bit crazy being 6 weeks from the start of the tour. If so maybe they are waiting to see what seats they can sell with limited view 
    When did that interview take place? Could have been weeks ago, no? Given the cost to put together production, I doubt they are playing it by ear.
  • JOEJOEJOE
    JOEJOEJOE Posts: 10,819
    My L.A. tickets are side stage, really close to Mike.  Hopefully they are not obstructed by any new possible production fixtures.
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,642
    Who’s going to be sitting down? 

    The fans taking shrooms gazing at the wild laser show and huge screens.

    seriously, it’s a much different dynamic than their 360 degree immersive experience with the fans. 

    Agreed. I'm kind of disappointed about this decision. I would even go as far as saying I'm bummed out over it. I just can't fathom why the band thought this was a cool direction to go in.
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  • rockford
    rockford Posts: 151
    JOEJOEJOE said:
    My L.A. tickets are side stage, really close to Mike.  Hopefully they are not obstructed by any new possible production fixtures.
    I had tickets like this for N1 in Vancouver. About 8 rows up, side stage Mike. The backdrop bothered me more than I expected. It was great when it was used to project the band's shadows, but for most of the set the screen kept shouting for my attention when I was trying to lock in to whatever the actual band was doing in front of me.

    If the screen wasn't 90 degrees to my left, and if it was in focus (presumably a first-night-of-the-tour problem), then it would have been less distracting. I also noticed Mike was more stationary than average when there were closeups of his fretboard, so I think there's a few show moments where he's on a leash because of it.

    Folks in most parts of the arena seemed to like it, so I felt like a minority for speaking up on. So either I'm weird or it was the seat location :s:anguished:

    On the plus side, you'll also get a great view of Josh from your seat, and it turns out he's a fascinating dude to watch in his very unique way.

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  • igotid88
    igotid88 Posts: 28,595
    I saw U2 at MSG from behind the stage. You couldn't see the band until the last song. So basically staring at the screen.
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  • MisterEtake2
    MisterEtake2 Posts: 404
    igotid88 said:
    I saw U2 at MSG from behind the stage. You couldn't see the band until the last song. So basically staring at the screen.
    It probably depends where you are.  I was behind the stage on the second level for the show where Bruce was in the house.  I remember being able to see everyone's back sides throughout the show.