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    nicknyr15nicknyr15 Posts: 7,801
    igotid88 said:
    Kwieneke said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    I know it’s minor but not having arenas sold all around the stage is another strike against this bands live shows. It just won’t  feel the same. 
    agreed. curious to see if that is really the case 
    Why? They still put on a good show 
    It changes the whole feel of the room. I know it’s nitpicking , I’m just being honest. Seeing fans surrounding the band on all sides, it’s just a certain feel and look of the room. 
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    Lerxst1992Lerxst1992 Posts: 6,138
    igotid88 said:
    Kwieneke said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    I know it’s minor but not having arenas sold all around the stage is another strike against this bands live shows. It just won’t  feel the same. 
    agreed. curious to see if that is really the case 
    Why? They still put on a good show 

    They do, but their vibe is to be surrounded by fans. They do it well. The garden will not shake with no fans surrounding the stage

    Tool does screens well, PJ, Bruce etc do fans 360 better.

    I could swear I saw behind stages seats at $600 for one of the west shows. Maybe I dreamt it.

    for tickets so difficult to get, it’s surprising they’d cut tickets by 20%. 

    Hopefully they’ll have a second chance draw for fans unfulfilled from the lottery with rear stage seats
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    igotid88igotid88 Posts: 27,424
    nicknyr15 said:
    igotid88 said:
    Kwieneke said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    I know it’s minor but not having arenas sold all around the stage is another strike against this bands live shows. It just won’t  feel the same. 
    agreed. curious to see if that is really the case 
    Why? They still put on a good show 
    It changes the whole feel of the room. I know it’s nitpicking , I’m just being honest. Seeing fans surrounding the band on all sides, it’s just a certain feel and look of the room. 
    I could be wrong but I don't remember behind the stage during the 2013 tour.  And I had a great time 
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    nicknyr15nicknyr15 Posts: 7,801
    igotid88 said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    igotid88 said:
    Kwieneke said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    I know it’s minor but not having arenas sold all around the stage is another strike against this bands live shows. It just won’t  feel the same. 
    agreed. curious to see if that is really the case 
    Why? They still put on a good show 
    It changes the whole feel of the room. I know it’s nitpicking , I’m just being honest. Seeing fans surrounding the band on all sides, it’s just a certain feel and look of the room. 
    I could be wrong but I don't remember behind the stage during the 2013 tour.  And I had a great time 
    Definitely sold all around Barclays and Philly. 
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    BloodMeridian80BloodMeridian80 Seattle Posts: 582
    People care about seating behind the stage... who knew? I never notice the behind the stage people unless and until they do a song for the back. All the amphitheater shows (2 or 3 plus Ohana) I've seen them at had no people behind them, and some of those shows were pretty good. 
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    KwienekeKwieneke Indiana Posts: 1,249
    Of course they put on a good show regardless, I just love seeing fans In every section. Plus that’s 2-3k less fans per show if the back is closed. 
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    igotid88igotid88 Posts: 27,424
    nicknyr15 said:
    igotid88 said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    igotid88 said:
    Kwieneke said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    I know it’s minor but not having arenas sold all around the stage is another strike against this bands live shows. It just won’t  feel the same. 
    agreed. curious to see if that is really the case 
    Why? They still put on a good show 
    It changes the whole feel of the room. I know it’s nitpicking , I’m just being honest. Seeing fans surrounding the band on all sides, it’s just a certain feel and look of the room. 
    I could be wrong but I don't remember behind the stage during the 2013 tour.  And I had a great time 
    Definitely sold all around Barclays and Philly. 
    I don't remember seeing people behind in Barclay's for some reason.
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    CO278952CO278952 Orlando, FL Posts: 1,233
    I'm sure they will sell the behind the stage sections, they just haven't dropped yet.  The shows are sold out, they will get more people in the door / sell more tix by opening up the sections behind the stage like every other tour. 
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    HaijayHaijay Posts: 328
    CO278952 said:
    I'm sure they will sell the behind the stage sections, they just haven't dropped yet.  The shows are sold out, they will get more people in the door / sell more tix by opening up the sections behind the stage like every other tour. 
    MAYBE the lower bowl, but nobody is paying $175 for upper bowl back there. Well, maybe Philly and NYC
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    CC9172CC9172 northern new jersey Posts: 124
    Haijay said:
    Maybe they will have a cool “dark matter” backdrop. It seems weird there is no behind stage tickets. Although, whos gonna pay $175 for those? Once the price point goes above $125, there are less people going to buy them.    
    They would sell out as fast as the general sale did. You don't think they would sell when people have spent over $800 for premium?  
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    steven87steven87 Posts: 1,266
    igotid88 said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    igotid88 said:
    Kwieneke said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    I know it’s minor but not having arenas sold all around the stage is another strike against this bands live shows. It just won’t  feel the same. 
    agreed. curious to see if that is really the case 
    Why? They still put on a good show 
    It changes the whole feel of the room. I know it’s nitpicking , I’m just being honest. Seeing fans surrounding the band on all sides, it’s just a certain feel and look of the room. 
    I could be wrong but I don't remember behind the stage during the 2013 tour.  And I had a great time 
    I was behind the stage for Hartford ‘13. Bought the ticket the day of the show. One of the best decisions I’ve ever made. 
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    I LOVE behind the stage and hope they get added. That said, it doesn't affect the vibes, as anyone who was in Ft Worth last year knows. Yeah, there is a bar and some standing room (and they got some love from Ed on night 2) but there were no seats surrounding the stage and the shows were just as great.
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    Go BeaversGo Beavers Posts: 8,648
    With people accusing the band of a cash grab, why wouldn’t they have seats behind then? 
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    tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 39,053
    With people accusing the band of a cash grab, why wouldn’t they have seats behind then? 
    This is why the tix are more.  That's a lotta seats they had to make up costs for.
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    igotid88igotid88 Posts: 27,424
    CO278952 said:
    I'm sure they will sell the behind the stage sections, they just haven't dropped yet.  The shows are sold out, they will get more people in the door / sell more tix by opening up the sections behind the stage like every other tour. 
    It would have been available when the tickets went on sale. As someone mentioned earlier maybe they have a different stage setup with a background?

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    CO278952CO278952 Orlando, FL Posts: 1,233
    igotid88 said:
    CO278952 said:
    I'm sure they will sell the behind the stage sections, they just haven't dropped yet.  The shows are sold out, they will get more people in the door / sell more tix by opening up the sections behind the stage like every other tour. 
    It would have been available when the tickets went on sale. As someone mentioned earlier maybe they have a different stage setup with a background?

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    2-feign-reluctance2-feign-reluctance TigerTown, USA Posts: 23,144
    yosi said:
    I don’t think they always had seats behind the stage, did they? During either the ‘06 (maybe ‘08?) tour, didn’t they have a back drop behind the stage with the Klausen wave?
    Yes, but it wasn't tall, so there were people behind the stage still both tours. 
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    yosiyosi NYC Posts: 2,638
    yosi said:
    I don’t think they always had seats behind the stage, did they? During either the ‘06 (maybe ‘08?) tour, didn’t they have a back drop behind the stage with the Klausen wave?
    Yes, but it wasn't tall, so there were people behind the stage still both tours. 
    Got it. Didn’t remember that, just remember the backdrop. 
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    There weren't behind the stage seats at the Bell Center in Montreal in 2011. I remember it, because I was on the last side section. It's kind of weird when you're at the very end, especially when you start singing along. You realize how horrible you sound.
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    RatherStarvedRatherStarved Posts: 4,237
    I doubt the ticket sales strategy was to sell all the good seats and then drop behind the stage.  If anything I’d expect the opposite.  There must be some screens or something this time that you need a front view of.  If so that’s too bad because I like the normal PJ show style better.  
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    Sugarloafer04Sugarloafer04 Telluride CO // Brooklyn NY Posts: 256
    the ticketmaster site is at least showing behind the stage sections for MSG now. Granted everything is grayed out minus some absurdly expensive PJ Premium floor seats. Fingers crossed they release behind the stage the tickets! (it's my only chance of getting into night 1!)
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    RyanRyan Posts: 1,017
    Some PJ shows have had seats behind the stage, other haven’t.  Usually depends on ticket sales.  May depend this time on stage set up, or a bit of a marketing ploy , “additional seats to our sold out shows have just opened up.  Get them now on Ticketmaster!”
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    KwienekeKwieneke Indiana Posts: 1,249
    Ryan said:
    Some PJ shows have had seats behind the stage, other haven’t.  Usually depends on ticket sales.  May depend this time on stage set up, or a bit of a marketing ploy , “additional seats to our sold out shows have just opened up.  Get them now on Ticketmaster!”
    I do remember seeing that at least a few times for the Chicago shows last year posted on instagram 
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    Sugarloafer04Sugarloafer04 Telluride CO // Brooklyn NY Posts: 256
    I would be shocked if they didn't sell behind the stage tickets to arguably the most sought after venue location on their whole tour...
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    curmudgeonesscurmudgeoness Brigadoon, foodie capital Posts: 3,261
    steven87 said:
    igotid88 said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    igotid88 said:
    Kwieneke said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    I know it’s minor but not having arenas sold all around the stage is another strike against this bands live shows. It just won’t  feel the same. 
    agreed. curious to see if that is really the case 
    Why? They still put on a good show 
    It changes the whole feel of the room. I know it’s nitpicking , I’m just being honest. Seeing fans surrounding the band on all sides, it’s just a certain feel and look of the room. 
    I could be wrong but I don't remember behind the stage during the 2013 tour.  And I had a great time 
    I was behind the stage for Hartford ‘13. Bought the ticket the day of the show. One of the best decisions I’ve ever made. 

    That was a night to remember!
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    yosiyosi NYC Posts: 2,638
    Not sure if this affects the possibility if behind the stage seats being sold, but the shows are listed as “sold out” on the Tour page of pearljam.com. 
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    PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 49,575
    I would be shocked if they didn't sell behind the stage tickets to arguably the most sought after venue location on their whole tour...

    I'll be shocked if they do open up behind the stage. Just from the Dark Matter material released so far, it looks to me like they are going for visuals on a screen behind them, plus it would seem insane to me if they were holding back tickets in that way. Sorry to say, but I feel like those hoping for whole sections to open up are suffering from wishful thinking.
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    KR197919KR197919 Posts: 11
    You can talk about Ticketmaster premium etc but not selling behind the stage tickets seems off to me. Why not tell the fans that is the plan? I think it will take away from the feel a little! 
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    Sugarloafer04Sugarloafer04 Telluride CO // Brooklyn NY Posts: 256
    PJ_Soul said:
    I would be shocked if they didn't sell behind the stage tickets to arguably the most sought after venue location on their whole tour...

    I'll be shocked if they do open up behind the stage. Just from the Dark Matter material released so far, it looks to me like they are going for visuals on a screen behind them, plus it would seem insane to me if they were holding back tickets in that way. Sorry to say, but I feel like those hoping for whole sections to open up are suffering from wishful thinking.
    new conspiracy theory, they raised ticket prices because they aren't selling behind the stage seats on this tour due to whatever visuals they are planning on doing? That being said, I do hope they open behind the stage seats...
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    CO278952CO278952 Orlando, FL Posts: 1,233
    Don’t fear the rear 
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