Fan-to-Fan Ticket Exchange for Dummies

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  • verceman
    verceman Posts: 702
    Posting again here because I am a dummy...

    Here's a Fan 2 Fan question for the vets. So I am looking at Bleachers tickets in Philly. I missed teh presale but it looks like Bleachers were using a face value ticket exchange where fans can resell for face value. It says clearly that tickets are non transferable and mobile only. Iff you visit the ticketmaster site there is a drop down filter for the exchange but there are no seats available. However, I see tickets available on Stubhub and SeatGeek for like 2x face value. Have people found a way around this system and are reselling on the secondary sites, or are people who buy on Stubhub etc going to get screwed? I would think SeatGeek and these other sites would definitely not want that to happen, so how are these listings posted? I know lots of times there are postings for seats that are not yet in hand, but in this case if all the tickets are non transferable, how would this work?
  • SHZA
    SHZA St. Louis, MO USA Posts: 4,315
    verceman said:
    Posting again here because I am a dummy...

    Here's a Fan 2 Fan question for the vets. So I am looking at Bleachers tickets in Philly. I missed teh presale but it looks like Bleachers were using a face value ticket exchange where fans can resell for face value. It says clearly that tickets are non transferable and mobile only. Iff you visit the ticketmaster site there is a drop down filter for the exchange but there are no seats available. However, I see tickets available on Stubhub and SeatGeek for like 2x face value. Have people found a way around this system and are reselling on the secondary sites, or are people who buy on Stubhub etc going to get screwed? I would think SeatGeek and these other sites would definitely not want that to happen, so how are these listings posted? I know lots of times there are postings for seats that are not yet in hand, but in this case if all the tickets are non transferable, how would this work?
    Brokers have figured out a workaround for the transfer restrictions. My understanding is that most of the tickets from stubhub, seatgeek etc. have worked for people. 
  • a5pj
    a5pj Hershey PA Posts: 3,977
    looks like its open for philly - who has 3 for me?
    Wouldn't it be funny if the world ended in 2010, with lots of fire?



  • Ledbetterman10
    Ledbetterman10 Posts: 17,016
    a5pj said:
    looks like its open for philly - who has 3 for me?
    Where do you find this?
    2000: Camden 1, 2003: Philly, State College, Camden 1, MSG 2, Hershey, 2004: Reading, 2005: Philly, 2006: Camden 1, 2, East Rutherford 1, 2007: Lollapalooza, 2008: Camden 1, Washington D.C., MSG 1, 2, 2009: Philly 1, 2, 3, 4, 2010: Bristol, MSG 2, 2011: PJ20 1, 2, 2012: Made In America, 2013: Brooklyn 2, Philly 2, 2014: Denver, 2015: Global Citizen Festival, 2016: Philly 2, Fenway 1, 2018: Fenway 1, 2, 2021: Sea. Hear. Now. 2022: Camden, 2024: Philly 2, 2025: Pittsburgh 1

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  • 100 Pacer
    100 Pacer Toronto, ON Posts: 9,334
    Can’t sell yet.
    To quote the 10C from Newsletter #8: "Please understand we have a lot of members and it is very hard to please everybody. If you are one of those unhappy people...please call 1-900-IDN-TCAR."

    "Me knowing the truth, I can not concur."

    1996: Toronto - 1998: Chicago, Montreal, Barrie - 2000: Montreal, Toronto - 2002: Seattle X2 (Key Arena) - 2003: Cleveland, Buffalo, Toronto, Montreal, Seattle (Benaroya Hall) - 2004: Reading, Toledo, Grand Rapids - 2005: Kitchener, London, Hamilton, Montreal, Ottawa, Toronto, Quebec City - 2006: Toronto X2, Albany, Hartford, Grand Rapids, Cleveland - 2007: Chicago (Vic Theatre) - 2008: NYC X2, Hartford, Mansfield X2 - 2009: Toronto, Chicago X2, Seattle X2, Philadelphia X4 - 2010: Columbus, Noblesville, Cleveland, Buffalo, Hartford - 2011: Montreal, Toronto X2, Ottawa, Hamilton - 2012: Missoula - 2013: London, Chicago, Buffalo, Hartford - 2014: Detroit, Moline - 2015: NYC (Global Citizen Festival) - 2016: Greenville, Toronto X2, Chicago 1 - 2017: Brooklyn (RRHOF Induction) - 2018: Chicago 1, Boston 1 - 2022: Fresno, Ottawa, Hamilton, Toronto, NYC, Camden - 2023: St. Paul X2, Austin X2 - 2024: Vancouver X2, Portland, Sacramento, Missoula, Noblesville, Philadelphia X2, Baltimore - 2025: Hollywood X2, Atlanta 2, Nashville X2, Pittsburgh X2
  • steven87
    steven87 Posts: 1,740
    It’s not open yet. I just clicked on the sell button and it said resale has not yet been authorized. But the page layout on TM changed, so hopefully soon. Or who knows, it could be another month. 
  • craigraether
    craigraether Posts: 1,664
    Also you will see the Fan to fan ticket type in filters on the TM event page ticket search
  • mpedone
    mpedone 540xxx - Manchester, NH Posts: 1,961
    SHZA said:
    JB274988 said:
    May have to change the date to 2021...


    @JB@JB274988 can we change the date to 2023? 

    Holy cow, I'd forgotten about that shirt/image. I'd love to see this in the wild in Baltimore this year!
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  • RatherStarved
    RatherStarved Posts: 5,834
    Anyone know if Wrigley transfers are open on TM yet? 
    PJ: 2013: London (ON); Buffalo; 2014: Cincinnati; 2016: Sunrise, Miami, Toronto 1-2, Wrigley 2; 2018: London (UK) 1, Milan, Padova, Sea 2, Wrigley 1-2, Fenway 1-2; 2021: SHN, Ohana, Ohana Encore 1-2; 2022: LA 1-2, Phx, Oak 1-2, Fresno, Copenhagen, Hyde Park 1-2; Quebec, Ottawa, Hamilton, Toronto; MSG, Camden, Nashville, Louisville, St. Louis, OKC; 2023: St. Paul 1-2, Chicago 1-2; Fort Worth 2; Austin 1-2; 2024:  Vancouver 1-2, LV 1-2, LA 1-2, Napa, Barcelona 1-2; Indy; Chicago 1-2; MSG 1-2; Philly 2; Boston 2; Ohana 1-2; 2025: FL 1-2, ATL 1-2, Nash 1-2, Pit 1-2.
     
    EV Solo: 2017 Louisville and Franklin, 2018 Ohana, 2019 Innings Fest, Berlin, Düsseldorf, Dublin and Ohana; 2021 Ohana Friday (from beach) and Saturday; 2022 Earthlings Newark; 2023 Innings Fest and Benoraya 1-2.

    Gutted:  London 2 2018, Sacramento 2022, Noblesville 2023
  • a5pj
    a5pj Hershey PA Posts: 3,977
    100 Pacer said:
    Can’t sell yet.
    ah yes, only premium available. I got excited when I could get in to look.
    Wouldn't it be funny if the world ended in 2010, with lots of fire?



  • a5pj
    a5pj Hershey PA Posts: 3,977
    a5pj said:
    100 Pacer said:
    Can’t sell yet.
    ah yes, only premium available. I got excited when I could get in to look.
    I couldn't sell my 2 vegas that I upgraded either.
    Wouldn't it be funny if the world ended in 2010, with lots of fire?



  • 100 Pacer
    100 Pacer Toronto, ON Posts: 9,334
    RatherStarved said:
    Anyone know if Wrigley transfers are open on TM yet? 
    Not yet.
    To quote the 10C from Newsletter #8: "Please understand we have a lot of members and it is very hard to please everybody. If you are one of those unhappy people...please call 1-900-IDN-TCAR."

    "Me knowing the truth, I can not concur."

    1996: Toronto - 1998: Chicago, Montreal, Barrie - 2000: Montreal, Toronto - 2002: Seattle X2 (Key Arena) - 2003: Cleveland, Buffalo, Toronto, Montreal, Seattle (Benaroya Hall) - 2004: Reading, Toledo, Grand Rapids - 2005: Kitchener, London, Hamilton, Montreal, Ottawa, Toronto, Quebec City - 2006: Toronto X2, Albany, Hartford, Grand Rapids, Cleveland - 2007: Chicago (Vic Theatre) - 2008: NYC X2, Hartford, Mansfield X2 - 2009: Toronto, Chicago X2, Seattle X2, Philadelphia X4 - 2010: Columbus, Noblesville, Cleveland, Buffalo, Hartford - 2011: Montreal, Toronto X2, Ottawa, Hamilton - 2012: Missoula - 2013: London, Chicago, Buffalo, Hartford - 2014: Detroit, Moline - 2015: NYC (Global Citizen Festival) - 2016: Greenville, Toronto X2, Chicago 1 - 2017: Brooklyn (RRHOF Induction) - 2018: Chicago 1, Boston 1 - 2022: Fresno, Ottawa, Hamilton, Toronto, NYC, Camden - 2023: St. Paul X2, Austin X2 - 2024: Vancouver X2, Portland, Sacramento, Missoula, Noblesville, Philadelphia X2, Baltimore - 2025: Hollywood X2, Atlanta 2, Nashville X2, Pittsburgh X2
  • auntdonut
    auntdonut Posts: 113
    edited February 2024
    This thread started in February 2020. I was having a blast with the nonstop chatting and obsessive F5ing!!! 🥴🙄😵‍💫🤯😬😃😁!!! And then Covid hit...😭🤬😤😫🥺😴!
    Get ready for a wild ride!
    Post edited by auntdonut on
  • GlowGirl
    GlowGirl New York, NY Posts: 12,278
    auntdonut said:
    This thread started in February 2020. I was having a blast with the nonstop chatting and obsessive F5ing!!! 🥴🙄😵‍💫🤯😬😃😁!!! And then Covid hit...😭🤬😤😫🥺😴!
    Get ready for a ride wild!
    I made a lot of friends from this thread. 
  • JeBurkhardt
    JeBurkhardt Posts: 5,374
    RatherStarved said:
    Anyone know if Wrigley transfers are open on TM yet? 
    They are on the MLB tickets. I bought a pair from someone last night who had bought them during the season ticket holder sale. I got a notice about an hour later that they had been transferred into my MLB account app. They are in there with the ability to forward them to another MLB account.  
  • P-Town-P-Jam-Fan
    P-Town-P-Jam-Fan Posts: 930
    PJ needs to sell most of the premium tickets before they decide they'll open up the F2F exchange.  The non-transfer thing isn't for the fans, its for the band.  It makes it so no fan can undercut the market selling their tickets back for face value while the band is trying to unload $800+ PJ premium tickets.
    Gorge
  • RatherStarved
    RatherStarved Posts: 5,834
    JeBurkhardt said:
    RatherStarved said:
    Anyone know if Wrigley transfers are open on TM yet? 
    They are on the MLB tickets. I bought a pair from someone last night who had bought them during the season ticket holder sale. I got a notice about an hour later that they had been transferred into my MLB account app. They are in there with the ability to forward them to another MLB account.  
    Congrats to you! Awaiting TM to do the same.  
    PJ: 2013: London (ON); Buffalo; 2014: Cincinnati; 2016: Sunrise, Miami, Toronto 1-2, Wrigley 2; 2018: London (UK) 1, Milan, Padova, Sea 2, Wrigley 1-2, Fenway 1-2; 2021: SHN, Ohana, Ohana Encore 1-2; 2022: LA 1-2, Phx, Oak 1-2, Fresno, Copenhagen, Hyde Park 1-2; Quebec, Ottawa, Hamilton, Toronto; MSG, Camden, Nashville, Louisville, St. Louis, OKC; 2023: St. Paul 1-2, Chicago 1-2; Fort Worth 2; Austin 1-2; 2024:  Vancouver 1-2, LV 1-2, LA 1-2, Napa, Barcelona 1-2; Indy; Chicago 1-2; MSG 1-2; Philly 2; Boston 2; Ohana 1-2; 2025: FL 1-2, ATL 1-2, Nash 1-2, Pit 1-2.
     
    EV Solo: 2017 Louisville and Franklin, 2018 Ohana, 2019 Innings Fest, Berlin, Düsseldorf, Dublin and Ohana; 2021 Ohana Friday (from beach) and Saturday; 2022 Earthlings Newark; 2023 Innings Fest and Benoraya 1-2.

    Gutted:  London 2 2018, Sacramento 2022, Noblesville 2023
  • RatherStarved
    RatherStarved Posts: 5,834
    P-Town-P-Jam-Fan said:
    PJ needs to sell most of the premium tickets before they decide they'll open up the F2F exchange.  The non-transfer thing isn't for the fans, its for the band.  It makes it so no fan can undercut the market selling their tickets back for face value while the band is trying to unload $800+ PJ premium tickets.
    I get that but in Illinois it’s the law to allow transfer.  
    PJ: 2013: London (ON); Buffalo; 2014: Cincinnati; 2016: Sunrise, Miami, Toronto 1-2, Wrigley 2; 2018: London (UK) 1, Milan, Padova, Sea 2, Wrigley 1-2, Fenway 1-2; 2021: SHN, Ohana, Ohana Encore 1-2; 2022: LA 1-2, Phx, Oak 1-2, Fresno, Copenhagen, Hyde Park 1-2; Quebec, Ottawa, Hamilton, Toronto; MSG, Camden, Nashville, Louisville, St. Louis, OKC; 2023: St. Paul 1-2, Chicago 1-2; Fort Worth 2; Austin 1-2; 2024:  Vancouver 1-2, LV 1-2, LA 1-2, Napa, Barcelona 1-2; Indy; Chicago 1-2; MSG 1-2; Philly 2; Boston 2; Ohana 1-2; 2025: FL 1-2, ATL 1-2, Nash 1-2, Pit 1-2.
     
    EV Solo: 2017 Louisville and Franklin, 2018 Ohana, 2019 Innings Fest, Berlin, Düsseldorf, Dublin and Ohana; 2021 Ohana Friday (from beach) and Saturday; 2022 Earthlings Newark; 2023 Innings Fest and Benoraya 1-2.

    Gutted:  London 2 2018, Sacramento 2022, Noblesville 2023
  • craigraether
    craigraether Posts: 1,664
    edited February 2024
    tschav said:
    SHZA said:
    aisleseats said:
    PJNB said:
    https://www.irs.gov/newsroom/irs-announces-delay-for-implementation-of-600-reporting-threshold-for-third-party-payment-platforms-forms-1099-k

    Unfortunately, TM/LN decided they were gonna send me some 1099s anyway, even though I was below the threshold. So now I have to claim nearly $10k in transactions on my taxes. Probably won't owe much, since it was mostly F2F. But it's still a pain in the ass doing the paperwork. 
    I got that too. But didn't get the 1099 until after I'd already filed. So now will have to do an amended return. Definitely a pain 
    Realizing all that goodwill helping others move up seats through F2F is a very complicated explanation to my tax guy. Will be interesting to see if it has an impact - if any - to taxes. At least LiveNation 1099 was all F2F sales to make it easier to calculate.
    It wont - there was no Profit. Cost of tickets- Sold for the same price, since TM offers sellers to set their price on other shows 9 (Transferable ones), there is no way for them to effectively weed out those that were F2F yrs standard resale. In the case of standard resale you would need to report the income you made over the price you paid. You add the 1099, then you add line items for your costs - the price of tickets - It zeros out. 
    Post edited by craigraether on
  • JeBurkhardt
    JeBurkhardt Posts: 5,374
    RatherStarved said:
    JeBurkhardt said:
    RatherStarved said:
    Anyone know if Wrigley transfers are open on TM yet? 
    They are on the MLB tickets. I bought a pair from someone last night who had bought them during the season ticket holder sale. I got a notice about an hour later that they had been transferred into my MLB account app. They are in there with the ability to forward them to another MLB account.  
    Congrats to you! Awaiting TM to do the same.  
    I was surprised that they ended up being transferred that night. I figured both the TM and MLB ones would become transferrable at roughly the same time. Hopefully TM allows it soon. I wonder if they delay it until F2F is ready to go for the shows. 

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