Fan-to-Fan Ticket Exchange for Dummies

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  • mpedone
    mpedone 540xxx - Manchester, NH Posts: 1,961
    Wouldn't it be better to get paid 7-days after the sale vs 7-days after the event?  TM gets a free 6-month loan by doing it this way.
    I know the Capitalist Way is to "squeeze out every penny", but I can't imagine 6 months of interest on the cost of a pair of concert tickets is much to these companies. They probably make more in processing fees on the sales.
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  • SHZA
    SHZA St. Louis, MO USA Posts: 4,314
    mpedone said:
    Wouldn't it be better to get paid 7-days after the sale vs 7-days after the event?  TM gets a free 6-month loan by doing it this way.
    I know the Capitalist Way is to "squeeze out every penny", but I can't imagine 6 months of interest on the cost of a pair of concert tickets is much to these companies. They probably make more in processing fees on the sales.
    It's not the cost of a pair of concert tickets. It's the cost of every resale ticket across thousands of events. Billions of dollars probably? 6 months of interest isn't peanuts on that kind of money  
  • ten474
    ten474 Los Angeles Posts: 186
    RK50065 said:
    Are we sure there won't be a delay between when the seller submits them and they show up on the exchange?
    It usually takes about 5-10 minutes to show up on the site after submitting them.
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  • RatherStarved
    RatherStarved Posts: 5,764
    SHZA said:
    Wouldn't it be better to get paid 7-days after the sale vs 7-days after the event?  TM gets a free 6-month loan by doing it this way.
    It's the former now. I believe stubhub is still doing the latter 
    Yes, Stub Hub is still payment after the event. They say it gives the buyer protection in case there is an issue.
    Yes they do and what a load of BS that is as they take a seller’s credit card to finance any buyer issues.  

    That being said SH recently helped me sell something that I wanted to get rid of and I don’t mind the delay in that particular case.  
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  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,111
    SHZA said:
    Wouldn't it be better to get paid 7-days after the sale vs 7-days after the event?  TM gets a free 6-month loan by doing it this way.
    It's the former now. I believe stubhub is still doing the latter 
    @SHZA please work your f2f magic and get me two philly night one tickets.  ;)
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • SHZA
    SHZA St. Louis, MO USA Posts: 4,314
    mcgruff10 said:
    SHZA said:
    Wouldn't it be better to get paid 7-days after the sale vs 7-days after the event?  TM gets a free 6-month loan by doing it this way.
    It's the former now. I believe stubhub is still doing the latter 
    @SHZA please work your f2f magic and get me two philly night one tickets.  ;)
    It's on the list! Hopefully they hit the on button soon 
  • SOLAT7979
    SOLAT7979 Posts: 75
    Was F2F face value even an option last year for the United Center shows in Chicago and/or the MSG show from 2022?
  • JeBurkhardt
    JeBurkhardt Posts: 5,321
    edited March 2024
    SOLAT7979 said:
    Was F2F face value even an option last year for the United Center shows in Chicago and/or the MSG show from 2022?
    Yes I used it to upgrade seats at the  UC.
  • PJNB
    PJNB Posts: 13,890
    This may have already been discussed but do we think we will be losing out on the taxes every fan to fan sale?
  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,111
    SHZA said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    SHZA said:
    Wouldn't it be better to get paid 7-days after the sale vs 7-days after the event?  TM gets a free 6-month loan by doing it this way.
    It's the former now. I believe stubhub is still doing the latter 
    @SHZA please work your f2f magic and get me two philly night one tickets.  ;)
    It's on the list! Hopefully they hit the on button soon 
    Thanks bud!  I really appreciate it.  It s the only show my wife can make this tour and I struck out so far.  
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  • pearljam92
    pearljam92 New Jersey Posts: 52
    hey!  Hope everyone had a good 4 years.  Scored Baltimore tix last time on here. 
    Looking for 2 for Philly N1 this time. Good luck everyone!  Thanks. 
  • 100 Pacer
    100 Pacer Toronto, ON Posts: 9,321
    PJNB said:
    This may have already been discussed but do we think we will be losing out on the taxes every fan to fan sale?
    If I’m not mistaken that was the issue they corrected last year where initial listings posted and sold without the tax and the seller saw a credit posted on the statement for the difference.
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  • JE224127
    JE224127 Fairhope, AL Posts: 549
    Good to see the practice of dropping full rows of premiums is alive and well at Baltimore. SMDH
  • verceman
    verceman Posts: 700
    JE224127 said:
    Good to see the practice of dropping full rows of premiums is alive and well at Baltimore. SMDH
    Philly as well. Wondering, could they have not read the market right with these prices, and tickets still being available at this point? Calling a lot of these seats "Premium" is a bit of a stretch.   
  • JimmyV
    JimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,597
    Open the floodgates! 
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  • RatherStarved
    RatherStarved Posts: 5,764
    Take a look at Vancouver. 
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  • Zod
    Zod Posts: 10,889
    Take a look at Vancouver. 

    Yah, I think it's rather optomistic that they'll sell all those seats. They're mostly back of the lower bowl seats asking for pretty high prices.  I suppose it's a positive 10c members got a lot of the closer tickets, but those seats aren't great at the back. Plus it looks like they put them all for sale at the same time.   Usually the secret with platinum is to trickle them out to create the illusion of scarcity.  Not sure what they're doing with the vancouver tix.
  • hairgrowth2001
    hairgrowth2001 Posts: 456
    edited March 2024
    They show the platinum tickets and then take groups of them away as if they are being sold. It creates a bit of panic and some people cave on the prices. They do the same thing with standard tickets for shows that aren’t selling well.
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  • steven87
    steven87 Posts: 1,722
    JE224127 said:
    Good to see the practice of dropping full rows of premiums is alive and well at Baltimore. SMDH
    A few additional rows in the sections closest to the stage have appeared for MSG as well. 
  • JeBurkhardt
    JeBurkhardt Posts: 5,321
    2 months until the tour opener date. You would think it will become available fairly soon.