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    VitalogensiaVitalogensia Posts: 1,933
    brianlux said:
    Anti-trans people understand there are such things as doctors that study this shit, and are likely way more intelligent than them about this topic, right?

    For the record I'm not looking for answers from anti-trans people here, as this is a rhetorical question.  (A link in case someone needs help understanding words: https://www.merriam-webster.com/)

    Who are the anti-trans people here?  And what are you trying to accomplish by linking an on line dictionary?  Seems an awful lot like bating to me.
    And by the way, I one one of these...  good reading!


    I'm not going to call anyone out and make accusations, but seems rather obvious to me.  Baiting/snarkiness/venting...whatever.  

    No hate on the AHD, either. 
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    brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 40,760
    OnWis97 said:
    brianlux said:
    No such thing as a trans gender kid. Hard stop.  End of discussion. If you feel otherwise, hope things go poorly for you the rest of your life.
    Stop abusing minors.  

    Adults can do whatever the fuck they want.


    Which part is abuse?
    Giving them hormone blockers, mutilating their genitals?  Allowing the kid to make decisions is mental abuse.

    Re-home them - they are better off in an orphanage then with a shitty mom trying to make her son a girl. It's sickening. 11 year olds shouldn't be able to say i wanna be a girl then chop his dick off.  Fuckin sick man.  People supporting this are just mind blowing how far they fallen.  Disgusting topic. 

    Once they turn 18 they can make whatever decisions they want.  I don't really follow gender identification if you are a dude who wants to pretend you a girl that is your right as an American. I support your right and decision, but you are still a dude. Who cares really what adults do.

    "Giving them hormone blockers, mutilating their genitals?  Allowing the kid to make decisions is mental abuse."
    That, to me, seems hard to argue against.  They may do these things, but we don't allow kids smoke or drink or have sex or drive before a certain age or go to war (etc.), so why would we allow them to take those kinds of meds or cut up their privates?  That would not make sense, so I agree with you.


    Sure. I also won't argue with "walking down the street and punching everyone in the face is physical abuse." But how often do either of these things occur?

    I don't know, but as an adult, I've been assaulted twice, so I hope I am the exception to the rule.  I would also hope the same for kids being given hormone blockers and having their genitals mutilated. 
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    brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 40,760
    brianlux said:
    Anti-trans people understand there are such things as doctors that study this shit, and are likely way more intelligent than them about this topic, right?

    For the record I'm not looking for answers from anti-trans people here, as this is a rhetorical question.  (A link in case someone needs help understanding words: https://www.merriam-webster.com/)

    Who are the anti-trans people here?  And what are you trying to accomplish by linking an on line dictionary?  Seems an awful lot like bating to me.
    And by the way, I one one of these...  good reading!


    I'm not going to call anyone out and make accusations, but seems rather obvious to me.  Baiting/snarkiness/venting...whatever.  

    No hate on the AHD, either. 

    Sorry, I'm not good with acronyms.  What is AHD?
    As for bating/snarkiness/venting, those are all over the place on any forum/ social media.  Sucks, doesn't it?  I hope I have not come across that way.
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    VitalogensiaVitalogensia Posts: 1,933
    brianlux said:
    brianlux said:
    Anti-trans people understand there are such things as doctors that study this shit, and are likely way more intelligent than them about this topic, right?

    For the record I'm not looking for answers from anti-trans people here, as this is a rhetorical question.  (A link in case someone needs help understanding words: https://www.merriam-webster.com/)

    Who are the anti-trans people here?  And what are you trying to accomplish by linking an on line dictionary?  Seems an awful lot like bating to me.
    And by the way, I one one of these...  good reading!


    I'm not going to call anyone out and make accusations, but seems rather obvious to me.  Baiting/snarkiness/venting...whatever.  

    No hate on the AHD, either. 

    Sorry, I'm not good with acronyms.  What is AHD?
    As for bating/snarkiness/venting, those are all over the place on any forum/ social media.  Sucks, doesn't it?  I hope I have not come across that way.
    AHD is the American Heritage Dictionary.  

    You do not, nor have you in my observations on these forums.
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    tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 39,066
    No such thing as a trans gender kid. Hard stop.  End of discussion. If you feel otherwise, hope things go poorly for you the rest of your life.
    Stop abusing minors.  

    Adults can do whatever the fuck they want.


    Which part is abuse?
    No such thing as a trans gender kid. Hard stop.  End of discussion. If you feel otherwise, hope things go poorly for you the rest of your life.
    Stop abusing minors.  

    Adults can do whatever the fuck they want.


    So you think there’s a such thing a transgendered adults? It’s not clear since you said ‘do’, but gender identification isn’t a verb. 
    And here we go...
    Somehow off topic? Can't have a discussion to better understand how the poster believes its "abuse of minors?" Got anything to add?
    Low lying fruit... Why bother?  No matter what they say to you it's not changing anyone's mind nor is it going to be a discussion.
    Way to add to the discussion. So, why did you bother?

    I'm interested in knowing what part of the process or state of trans-gender the poster considers abuse. Do you have any thoughts on that? Because, you know, BOO!
    I posted the article u clown...

    The poster is going to give some way off answer that will lead to more of nothing.  It brings zero to the discussion because it won't be one.

    My thoughts?  I don't understand it.  I'm hetero or cis , straight.  These thoughts don't cross my mind and i don't think anyone who isn't trans should make these decisions for them.
    You posted an article regarding trans kids/adults competing in sports, women now men competing with males and men now women competing with females, joker.

    What are your thoughts on the poster that I replied to calling it "abuse?" RIF.

    Only trans parents and trans medical professionals can make decisions for trans kids? Really?
    For the last part is not what i said.  Let the Trans People make these decisions.  Get a group and ask them.  They went through it.  It's not so far fetched to ask someone whom went through the ordeal and ask them for insight.

    What I'm getting at is people like you and myself shouldn't be making these decisions

    What are my thoughts about the poster?  2nd sentence. The poster is going to give some way off answer that will lead to more of nothing.  It brings zero to the discussion because it won't be one.


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    tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 39,066
    brianlux said:
    seanwon said:

    Take a walk on the wild side, Cap’n.

    Doot doo-doot
    Do-doot
    Do do-do-do do
    Do do
    Do do
    Do-do-doo
    And the colored girls sing……..
    This line wouldn't fly in todays society.  I mentioned this in a past thread when they played it on 97.1's "white ish Wednesdays" morning show.
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    Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,657
    brianlux said:
    seanwon said:

    Take a walk on the wild side, Cap’n.

    Doot doo-doot
    Do-doot
    Do do-do-do do
    Do do
    Do do
    Do-do-doo
    And the colored girls sing……..
    This line wouldn't fly in today’s society.  I mentioned this in a past thread when they played it on 97.1's "white ish Wednesdays" morning show.
    “This line ‘wouldn’t fly’ in today’s society?” Geeze, it’s still played on the radio, sold on vinyl in record stores and quoted on a rock band’s website. C’mon man, it’s not like it’s been cancelled.
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    Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,657
    No such thing as a trans gender kid. Hard stop.  End of discussion. If you feel otherwise, hope things go poorly for you the rest of your life.
    Stop abusing minors.  

    Adults can do whatever the fuck they want.


    Which part is abuse?
    No such thing as a trans gender kid. Hard stop.  End of discussion. If you feel otherwise, hope things go poorly for you the rest of your life.
    Stop abusing minors.  

    Adults can do whatever the fuck they want.


    So you think there’s a such thing a transgendered adults? It’s not clear since you said ‘do’, but gender identification isn’t a verb. 
    And here we go...
    Somehow off topic? Can't have a discussion to better understand how the poster believes its "abuse of minors?" Got anything to add?
    Low lying fruit... Why bother?  No matter what they say to you it's not changing anyone's mind nor is it going to be a discussion.
    Way to add to the discussion. So, why did you bother?

    I'm interested in knowing what part of the process or state of trans-gender the poster considers abuse. Do you have any thoughts on that? Because, you know, BOO!
    I posted the article u clown...

    The poster is going to give some way off answer that will lead to more of nothing.  It brings zero to the discussion because it won't be one.

    My thoughts?  I don't understand it.  I'm hetero or cis , straight.  These thoughts don't cross my mind and i don't think anyone who isn't trans should make these decisions for them.
    You posted an article regarding trans kids/adults competing in sports, women now men competing with males and men now women competing with females, joker.

    What are your thoughts on the poster that I replied to calling it "abuse?" RIF.

    Only trans parents and trans medical professionals can make decisions for trans kids? Really?
    For the last part is not what i said.  Let the Trans People make these decisions.  Get a group and ask them.  They went through it.  It's not so far fetched to ask someone whom went through the ordeal and ask them for insight.

    What I'm getting at is people like you and myself shouldn't be making these decisions

    What are my thoughts about the poster?  2nd sentence. The poster is going to give some way off answer that will lead to more of nothing.  It brings zero to the discussion because it won't be one.


    What decisions are you and I making about this? I’m not making any. You? Who knows but more importantly, who the fuck cares? As it should be.
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    tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 39,066
    brianlux said:
    seanwon said:

    Take a walk on the wild side, Cap’n.

    Doot doo-doot
    Do-doot
    Do do-do-do do
    Do do
    Do do
    Do-do-doo
    And the colored girls sing……..
    This line wouldn't fly in today’s society.  I mentioned this in a past thread when they played it on 97.1's "white ish Wednesdays" morning show.
    “This line ‘wouldn’t fly’ in today’s society?” Geeze, it’s still played on the radio, sold on vinyl in record stores and quoted on a rock band’s website. C’mon man, it’s not like it’s been cancelled.
    I guess you've chosen to say the opposite of whatever i mention now... ooookayyyyyy.

    So no, this line would not fly in todays society.  There was a representative recently that was chastised for it.  With all the reading you do, this hasn't come off as a "no no" word now? You are out of touch.

    Yes it's still in print because it's an older song and most people understand that.  If you tried using it in a song today it would not fly...
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    tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 39,066
    No such thing as a trans gender kid. Hard stop.  End of discussion. If you feel otherwise, hope things go poorly for you the rest of your life.
    Stop abusing minors.  

    Adults can do whatever the fuck they want.


    Which part is abuse?
    No such thing as a trans gender kid. Hard stop.  End of discussion. If you feel otherwise, hope things go poorly for you the rest of your life.
    Stop abusing minors.  

    Adults can do whatever the fuck they want.


    So you think there’s a such thing a transgendered adults? It’s not clear since you said ‘do’, but gender identification isn’t a verb. 
    And here we go...
    Somehow off topic? Can't have a discussion to better understand how the poster believes its "abuse of minors?" Got anything to add?
    Low lying fruit... Why bother?  No matter what they say to you it's not changing anyone's mind nor is it going to be a discussion.
    Way to add to the discussion. So, why did you bother?

    I'm interested in knowing what part of the process or state of trans-gender the poster considers abuse. Do you have any thoughts on that? Because, you know, BOO!
    I posted the article u clown...

    The poster is going to give some way off answer that will lead to more of nothing.  It brings zero to the discussion because it won't be one.

    My thoughts?  I don't understand it.  I'm hetero or cis , straight.  These thoughts don't cross my mind and i don't think anyone who isn't trans should make these decisions for them.
    You posted an article regarding trans kids/adults competing in sports, women now men competing with males and men now women competing with females, joker.

    What are your thoughts on the poster that I replied to calling it "abuse?" RIF.

    Only trans parents and trans medical professionals can make decisions for trans kids? Really?
    For the last part is not what i said.  Let the Trans People make these decisions.  Get a group and ask them.  They went through it.  It's not so far fetched to ask someone whom went through the ordeal and ask them for insight.

    What I'm getting at is people like you and myself shouldn't be making these decisions

    What are my thoughts about the poster?  2nd sentence. The poster is going to give some way off answer that will lead to more of nothing.  It brings zero to the discussion because it won't be one.


    What decisions are you and I making about this? I’m not making any. You? Who knows but more importantly, who the fuck cares? As it should be.
    So like his opinion, yours too brings zero to the table.  Being contrarian and wanting to have the last word is your MO.
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    Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,657
    No such thing as a trans gender kid. Hard stop.  End of discussion. If you feel otherwise, hope things go poorly for you the rest of your life.
    Stop abusing minors.  

    Adults can do whatever the fuck they want.


    Which part is abuse?
    No such thing as a trans gender kid. Hard stop.  End of discussion. If you feel otherwise, hope things go poorly for you the rest of your life.
    Stop abusing minors.  

    Adults can do whatever the fuck they want.


    So you think there’s a such thing a transgendered adults? It’s not clear since you said ‘do’, but gender identification isn’t a verb. 
    And here we go...
    Somehow off topic? Can't have a discussion to better understand how the poster believes its "abuse of minors?" Got anything to add?
    Low lying fruit... Why bother?  No matter what they say to you it's not changing anyone's mind nor is it going to be a discussion.
    Way to add to the discussion. So, why did you bother?

    I'm interested in knowing what part of the process or state of trans-gender the poster considers abuse. Do you have any thoughts on that? Because, you know, BOO!
    I posted the article u clown...

    The poster is going to give some way off answer that will lead to more of nothing.  It brings zero to the discussion because it won't be one.

    My thoughts?  I don't understand it.  I'm hetero or cis , straight.  These thoughts don't cross my mind and i don't think anyone who isn't trans should make these decisions for them.
    You posted an article regarding trans kids/adults competing in sports, women now men competing with males and men now women competing with females, joker.

    What are your thoughts on the poster that I replied to calling it "abuse?" RIF.

    Only trans parents and trans medical professionals can make decisions for trans kids? Really?
    For the last part is not what i said.  Let the Trans People make these decisions.  Get a group and ask them.  They went through it.  It's not so far fetched to ask someone whom went through the ordeal and ask them for insight.

    What I'm getting at is people like you and myself shouldn't be making these decisions

    What are my thoughts about the poster?  2nd sentence. The poster is going to give some way off answer that will lead to more of nothing.  It brings zero to the discussion because it won't be one.


    What decisions are you and I making about this? I’m not making any. You? Who knows but more importantly, who the fuck cares? As it should be.
    So like his opinion, yours too brings zero to the table.  Being contrarian and wanting to have the last word is your MO.
    And yours carries weight? Sure.

    In my world, parents don’t have to be trans, nor do the health care providers that the parents may take their potentially trans child to see. This issue is solely between the parent(s), their child and the healthcare providers they choose to consult with. Not the church, not the government, not the libs of tick tok and not you. Full stop. But sure, make it about me, joker.

    I still haven’t seen a response about which part of the process is abuse of a child and how many parents have been charged with child abuse or neglect as it relates to this particular issue that, according to some, is sweeping the nation and turning our kids gay. I’ll wait for the link to “social media.”
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    tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 39,066
    No such thing as a trans gender kid. Hard stop.  End of discussion. If you feel otherwise, hope things go poorly for you the rest of your life.
    Stop abusing minors.  

    Adults can do whatever the fuck they want.


    Which part is abuse?
    No such thing as a trans gender kid. Hard stop.  End of discussion. If you feel otherwise, hope things go poorly for you the rest of your life.
    Stop abusing minors.  

    Adults can do whatever the fuck they want.


    So you think there’s a such thing a transgendered adults? It’s not clear since you said ‘do’, but gender identification isn’t a verb. 
    And here we go...
    Somehow off topic? Can't have a discussion to better understand how the poster believes its "abuse of minors?" Got anything to add?
    Low lying fruit... Why bother?  No matter what they say to you it's not changing anyone's mind nor is it going to be a discussion.
    Way to add to the discussion. So, why did you bother?

    I'm interested in knowing what part of the process or state of trans-gender the poster considers abuse. Do you have any thoughts on that? Because, you know, BOO!
    I posted the article u clown...

    The poster is going to give some way off answer that will lead to more of nothing.  It brings zero to the discussion because it won't be one.

    My thoughts?  I don't understand it.  I'm hetero or cis , straight.  These thoughts don't cross my mind and i don't think anyone who isn't trans should make these decisions for them.
    You posted an article regarding trans kids/adults competing in sports, women now men competing with males and men now women competing with females, joker.

    What are your thoughts on the poster that I replied to calling it "abuse?" RIF.

    Only trans parents and trans medical professionals can make decisions for trans kids? Really?
    For the last part is not what i said.  Let the Trans People make these decisions.  Get a group and ask them.  They went through it.  It's not so far fetched to ask someone whom went through the ordeal and ask them for insight.

    What I'm getting at is people like you and myself shouldn't be making these decisions

    What are my thoughts about the poster?  2nd sentence. The poster is going to give some way off answer that will lead to more of nothing.  It brings zero to the discussion because it won't be one.


    What decisions are you and I making about this? I’m not making any. You? Who knows but more importantly, who the fuck cares? As it should be.
    So like his opinion, yours too brings zero to the table.  Being contrarian and wanting to have the last word is your MO.
    And yours carries weight? Sure.

    In my world, parents don’t have to be trans, nor do the health care providers that the parents may take their potentially trans child to see. This issue is solely between the parent(s), their child and the healthcare providers they choose to consult with. Not the church, not the government, not the libs of tick tok and not you. Full stop. But sure, make it about me, joker.

    I still haven’t seen a response about which part of the process is abuse of a child and how many parents have been charged with child abuse or neglect as it relates to this particular issue that, according to some, is sweeping the nation and turning our kids gay. I’ll wait for the link to “social media.”
    That last part was meant for someone else whom you'll never see that though.
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    Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,657
    No such thing as a trans gender kid. Hard stop.  End of discussion. If you feel otherwise, hope things go poorly for you the rest of your life.
    Stop abusing minors.  

    Adults can do whatever the fuck they want.


    Which part is abuse?
    No such thing as a trans gender kid. Hard stop.  End of discussion. If you feel otherwise, hope things go poorly for you the rest of your life.
    Stop abusing minors.  

    Adults can do whatever the fuck they want.


    So you think there’s a such thing a transgendered adults? It’s not clear since you said ‘do’, but gender identification isn’t a verb. 
    And here we go...
    Somehow off topic? Can't have a discussion to better understand how the poster believes its "abuse of minors?" Got anything to add?
    Low lying fruit... Why bother?  No matter what they say to you it's not changing anyone's mind nor is it going to be a discussion.
    Way to add to the discussion. So, why did you bother?

    I'm interested in knowing what part of the process or state of trans-gender the poster considers abuse. Do you have any thoughts on that? Because, you know, BOO!
    I posted the article u clown...

    The poster is going to give some way off answer that will lead to more of nothing.  It brings zero to the discussion because it won't be one.

    My thoughts?  I don't understand it.  I'm hetero or cis , straight.  These thoughts don't cross my mind and i don't think anyone who isn't trans should make these decisions for them.
    You posted an article regarding trans kids/adults competing in sports, women now men competing with males and men now women competing with females, joker.

    What are your thoughts on the poster that I replied to calling it "abuse?" RIF.

    Only trans parents and trans medical professionals can make decisions for trans kids? Really?
    For the last part is not what i said.  Let the Trans People make these decisions.  Get a group and ask them.  They went through it.  It's not so far fetched to ask someone whom went through the ordeal and ask them for insight.

    What I'm getting at is people like you and myself shouldn't be making these decisions

    What are my thoughts about the poster?  2nd sentence. The poster is going to give some way off answer that will lead to more of nothing.  It brings zero to the discussion because it won't be one.


    What decisions are you and I making about this? I’m not making any. You? Who knows but more importantly, who the fuck cares? As it should be.
    So like his opinion, yours too brings zero to the table.  Being contrarian and wanting to have the last word is your MO.
    And yours carries weight? Sure.

    In my world, parents don’t have to be trans, nor do the health care providers that the parents may take their potentially trans child to see. This issue is solely between the parent(s), their child and the healthcare providers they choose to consult with. Not the church, not the government, not the libs of tick tok and not you. Full stop. But sure, make it about me, joker.

    I still haven’t seen a response about which part of the process is abuse of a child and how many parents have been charged with child abuse or neglect as it relates to this particular issue that, according to some, is sweeping the nation and turning our kids gay. I’ll wait for the link to “social media.”
    That last part was meant for someone else whom you'll never see that though.
    I didn’t ask about the “poster.” I asked about the content of their post and specifically, what part of the process they considered “abuse.” But you’d never comprehend that. RIF.
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    brianlux said:
    brianlux said:
    Anti-trans people understand there are such things as doctors that study this shit, and are likely way more intelligent than them about this topic, right?

    For the record I'm not looking for answers from anti-trans people here, as this is a rhetorical question.  (A link in case someone needs help understanding words: https://www.merriam-webster.com/)

    Who are the anti-trans people here?  And what are you trying to accomplish by linking an on line dictionary?  Seems an awful lot like bating to me.
    And by the way, I one one of these...  good reading!


    I'm not going to call anyone out and make accusations, but seems rather obvious to me.  Baiting/snarkiness/venting...whatever.  

    No hate on the AHD, either. 

    Sorry, I'm not good with acronyms.  What is AHD?
    As for bating/snarkiness/venting, those are all over the place on any forum/ social media.  Sucks, doesn't it?  I hope I have not come across that way.
    AHD is the American Heritage Dictionary.  

    You do not, nor have you in my observations on these forums.

    Thank you.  Funny, because I'm the one who post the picture that dictionary, lol.
    And I wish I could say I've never been a jerk here, but I've tried to be better!
    brianlux said:
    seanwon said:

    Take a walk on the wild side, Cap’n.

    Doot doo-doot
    Do-doot
    Do do-do-do do
    Do do
    Do do
    Do-do-doo
    And the colored girls sing……..
    This line wouldn't fly in todays society.  I mentioned this in a past thread when they played it on 97.1's "white ish Wednesdays" morning show.

    It may well not fly these days, but on the other hand, can you picture Lou singing:
    "And the women of color sing do, do-do, do-do...:"  haha!
    I think you got away with a lot because he was honest, not biased.  Like some of the lyrics to "Good Evening Mr. Waldheim"
    Good evening Mr. Waldheim and Pontiff, how are you?
    You have so much in common in the things you do
    And here comes Jesse Jackson, he talks of common ground
    Does that common ground include me, or is it just a sound?
    A sound that shakes, oh Jesse, you must watch the sounds you make
    A sound that quakes, there are fears that still reverberate
    Jesse, you say common ground, does that include the PLO?
    What about people right here right now who fought for you not so long ago?
    And the words that flow so freely falling, dancing from your lips
    I hope that you don't cheapen them with a racist slip, oh, common ground
    Is common ground a word or just a sound?
    Common ground, remember those civil rights workers buried in the ground
    If I ran for President and once was a member of the Klan
    Wouldn't you call me on it the way I call you on Farrakhan?
    And Pontiff, pretty Pontiff, can anyone shake your hand?
    Or is it just that you like uniforms and someone kissing your hand?
    Or is it true the common ground for me includes you too?
    Oh, oh, is it true the common ground for me includes you too?
    Good evening Mr. Waldheim, Pontiff, how are you?
    As you both stroll through the woods at night, I'm thinking thoughts of you
    And Jesse, you're inside my thoughts as the rhythmic words subside
    My common ground invites you in or do you prefer to wait outside?
    Or is it true the common ground for me is without you?
    Or is it true the common ground for me is without you?
    Oh, is it true there's no ground common enough for me and you?



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    tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 39,066

    That last part was meant for someone else whom you'll never see that though.
    I didn’t ask about the “poster.” I asked about the content of their post and specifically, what part of the process they considered “abuse.” But you’d never comprehend that. RIF.
    You can't understand what I said or is it the last word thing again?  I know exactly what you meant and i'll say it again, that person will never post what you are asking for...

    So to clarify even further.  You, Fax, will never see, as in lay eyes on nor get a response you are looking for, from jimjam.

    Last word is yours!
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    Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,657

    That last part was meant for someone else whom you'll never see that though.
    I didn’t ask about the “poster.” I asked about the content of their post and specifically, what part of the process they considered “abuse.” But you’d never comprehend that. RIF.
    You can't understand what I said or is it the last word thing again?  I know exactly what you meant and i'll say it again, that person will never post what you are asking for...

    So to clarify even further.  You, Fax, will never see, as in lay eyes on nor get a response you are looking for, from jimjam.

    Last word is yours!
    Although, had you comprehended what jimjam eventually responded with, you would understand that he thinks “genital mutilation” and forcing hormone blockers on kids was the form of abuse, at least that’s what I took from their response. Again, that’s what I was replying to when you called me a clown, joker. I eventually received a response from jimjam, at least I think I did, but I don’t think you answered my question, other than to call me a clown and say something about only trans people can understand trans people or some such joke.

    Feel free to reply. Or not.
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    tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 39,066

    That last part was meant for someone else whom you'll never see that though.
    I didn’t ask about the “poster.” I asked about the content of their post and specifically, what part of the process they considered “abuse.” But you’d never comprehend that. RIF.
    You can't understand what I said or is it the last word thing again?  I know exactly what you meant and i'll say it again, that person will never post what you are asking for...

    So to clarify even further.  You, Fax, will never see, as in lay eyes on nor get a response you are looking for, from jimjam.

    Last word is yours!
    Although, had you comprehended what jimjam eventually responded with, you would understand that he thinks “genital mutilation” and forcing hormone blockers on kids was the form of abuse, at least that’s what I took from their response. Again, that’s what I was replying to when you called me a clown, joker. I eventually received a response from jimjam, at least I think I did, but I don’t think you answered my question, other than to call me a clown and say something about only trans people can understand trans people or some such joke.

    Feel free to reply. Or not.
    Yeah you're comprehension of things is definitely off...
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    Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,657

    That last part was meant for someone else whom you'll never see that though.
    I didn’t ask about the “poster.” I asked about the content of their post and specifically, what part of the process they considered “abuse.” But you’d never comprehend that. RIF.
    You can't understand what I said or is it the last word thing again?  I know exactly what you meant and i'll say it again, that person will never post what you are asking for...

    So to clarify even further.  You, Fax, will never see, as in lay eyes on nor get a response you are looking for, from jimjam.

    Last word is yours!
    Although, had you comprehended what jimjam eventually responded with, you would understand that he thinks “genital mutilation” and forcing hormone blockers on kids was the form of abuse, at least that’s what I took from their response. Again, that’s what I was replying to when you called me a clown, joker. I eventually received a response from jimjam, at least I think I did, but I don’t think you answered my question, other than to call me a clown and say something about only trans people can understand trans people or some such joke.

    Feel free to reply. Or not.
    Yeah you're comprehension of things is definitely off...
    Sure.
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