Official 2024 Ticket Lottery Results Thread

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  • PJ and Dylan are my muse
    PJ and Dylan are my muse Posts: 218
    NewfieintheUSA said:
    PJ and Dylan are my muse said:

    the fact that selecting GA/P1 and P1 separately would increase your odds makes no sense at all

    Then why would it say this at the selection point?  At first I only registered for GA/P1 as well.  I went back and changed to checking both boxes, after rereading everything, because I knew if denied GA, my P1 seats would be fine based on prior seats I have had there in 2016/2018 and my 10C# senority.
    192xxx
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    6/6/03 - Las Vegas
    10/5/04, 9/18/22 - St. Louis
    6/29/06, 10/20/14 - Milwaukee
    11/19/13 - Phoenix
    4/26/16 - Lexington

  • AFJAMMER
    AFJAMMER Posts: 100
    NewfieintheUSA said:
    PJ and Dylan are my muse said:

    Now it might be coming out.  I wondered if the both boxes issue would play a roll.
    Listen, I didn't want P2 seats, so missing out is fine with me, it's the fact that others got GA to all 4 shows I missed out on
    I get that. I have always scored excellent seats at face through f2f. 

    Even the shoes I got this year I will most likely be on f2f trying for better seats.i think membership is becoming more useless with f2f.
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  • BSully
    BSully Indiana Posts: 1,503
    So much data, stats, and facts to try to consume today.
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    2025: Pitt 1 05-16, Pitt 2 05-18
  • bootleg
    bootleg Posts: 1,209
    NewfieintheUSA said:
    PJ and Dylan are my muse said:

    the fact that selecting GA/P1 and P1 separately would increase your odds makes no sense at all
    It shouldn’t have made a difference but who knows what they put in the algos.  They put all kinds of stuff in the verified fan qualification algorithm supposedly ranging from number of requests to proximity to the show etc…. 
  • PJ and Dylan are my muse
    PJ and Dylan are my muse Posts: 218
    Just spitballing here...What if you did not get picked for GA and a glitch of some kind did not then dump you into the P1 lottery like it should have?  That could easily result in a shutout of the whole show.  By selecting the 2nd box, you would then be in it for sure.  
    192xxx
    6/26+27/98, 10/8/00 (IB), 6/21/03, 9/3+4/11 (PJ20) - East Troy
    6/29/98, 10/9/00, 6/18/03, 5/16+17/06, 8/23+24/09, 8/20+22/16, 8/18+20/18, 8/29+31/24 - Chicago
    6/6/03 - Las Vegas
    10/5/04, 9/18/22 - St. Louis
    6/29/06, 10/20/14 - Milwaukee
    11/19/13 - Phoenix
    4/26/16 - Lexington

  • Lowlight11
    Lowlight11 Posts: 271
    betterman2121 said:
    PhartN said:
    Lowlight11 said:
    BloodMeridian80 said:
    Lowlight11 said:
    Does anyone know when the fan to fan opens up?
    My guess would be 1st or 2nd week of March (at least for the Leg 1 shows), but it is not known at this point.
    OK thanks! I need to offload some shows. I went 4/4 and was not expecting that having been shut out for years!
    which shows, I might be interested?  I went 0/3 :(
    If you have any philly dates I would be interested...got shut out
    As of now I'm most likely letting go of the Monday night Philly show. It would be through Fan to Fan so it would require coordination if that's what I do. I'm waiting to see where all the seats on and then making final call on what shows I'm letting go of. 
  • emptycupinthemiddleofthesea
    emptycupinthemiddleofthesea Posts: 212
    It's possible that the 10c is getting additional allocations of tickets today, to distribute tomorrow. Without a rejection email, this is all just crying about nothing. 

    That being said, I do not have high hopes that my L.A. requests will be confirmed at this point. I'm just saying, it's possible they're working on getting more tickets. I'm sure the demand for this tour is higher than the last one, simply based on the response to Dark Matter. 
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  • on2legs
    on2legs Posts: 15,985
    It's possible for each show there were 3 individual pulls for tickets.  First was for the GA section, then the P1 seats, and then for P2 seats.  If you checked all three you would have 3 chances to get seats.
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  • Spoken
    Spoken Posts: 1,499
    Hi, so far nothing for me...
  • ComeToTX
    ComeToTX Austin Posts: 8,070
    bootleg said:
    NewfieintheUSA said:
    PJ and Dylan are my muse said:

    the fact that selecting GA/P1 and P1 separately would increase your odds makes no sense at all
    It shouldn’t have made a difference but who knows what they put in the algos.  They put all kinds of stuff in the verified fan qualification algorithm supposedly ranging from number of requests to proximity to the show etc…. 
    this is the real issue.  there's no transparency with any of it.  we're just supposed to trust Ticketmaster!  lmfao.
    This show, another show, a show here and a show there.
  • SHZA
    SHZA St. Louis, MO USA Posts: 4,314
    edited February 2024
    on2legs said:
    It's possible for each show there were 3 individual pulls for tickets.  First was for the GA section, then the P1 seats, and then for P2 seats.  If you checked all three you would have 3 chances to get seats.
    Why wouldn't you have a chance at P1 if you only checked GA-P1 and P2? Or were there really 4 potential chances, GA, P1 linked to GA, P1 standalone, and P2. 

    I got P1s for Vegas and B'more and only checked the GA-P1 box but not the P1 standalone box 
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  • PhartN
    PhartN MD Posts: 508
    Ill shoot my shot.  Picked SEA N1 and N2 as well as Baltimore got shot down for all.....if anyone already knows they wont be going to those and got the 10C wins, id be down to coordinate a f2f when the time comes.  singles for both SEA and 2 for Baltimore....please and thanks!
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    2024: Seattle, WA N1 & N2 - Indianapolis, IN- Baltimore, MD
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  • know1
    know1 Posts: 6,801
    NewfieintheUSA said:
    PJ and Dylan are my muse said:

    the fact that selecting GA/P1 and P1 separately would increase your odds makes no sense at all
    Well...except for the fact that the Ten Club said it did in the Pre-Sale info.
    The only people we should try to get even with...
    ...are those who've helped us.

    Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
  • RE4790
    RE4790 Posts: 826
    curmudgeoness said:
    Lerxst1992 said:
    SHZA said:
    PJ and Dylan are my muse said:
    RE4790 said:
    CurtisMartin said:
    Correct, the system is very flawed or corrupt.  Simple statistics show multiple people shouldn't be winning 8 shows and others getting nothing.  Time to stop wasting money on the ten club if this is how things are being handled.


    If every requester has exactly the same chance as every other requester at every show requested this absolutely could happen as winning a show has zero effect on winning any other show.  It's even possible the same 10 clubber could have been drawn as the first for every single show.

    This!
    Everyone knows it's possible. But if the odds of it happening are 1 in 10 million, yet the actual results are 1 in 100, something is wrong.

    People are getting confused with lottery odds. If I have a ten percent chance to win a high demand show and win, I still have a ten percent chance of winning the next show.

    but to win both, my odds are 1% (10%*10%)

    We are seeing fans go four for four (ny and Balt one chance each, Philly two chances)

    the odds of hitting all four assuming 10% odds are 10%*10%*10%*10% or 0.01%.

    to see that happen multiple times is astounding. It’s possible but very very strange.

    But we don't know what the odds for each show are. That makes a difference. Odds for pulling an MSG ticket were very low, due to both demand and fewer available seats. But what were the odds for, say, Portland? If there was a 90% chance of getting a ticket to one show, 75% chance at another, 25% chance at getting Philly 2, 10% chance of getting an MSG show, your total odds are different.

    And yes, if the odds of getting a ticket were 95%, someone still was getting shut out. I got Philly 1 and 2 but not Seattle 2, that's just how it turned out.

    Yup.  We have no idea if there are more or fewer people in the 10c now than when those odds were published years ago.  We have no idea if the price change kept people from entering the lotto or made people enter for fewer shows than years past.  Or the absence of priority for that matter.  Did everyone check all the ticket type boxes or just one?  Did that matter?   We just don't know.

    But I would add that if a result seems impossible based on a set of assumptions, then perhaps it's time to reassess those assumptions.
  • NewfieintheUSA
    NewfieintheUSA Posts: 2,416
    know1 said:
    NewfieintheUSA said:
    PJ and Dylan are my muse said:

    the fact that selecting GA/P1 and P1 separately would increase your odds makes no sense at all
    Well...except for the fact that the Ten Club said it did in the Pre-Sale info.
    I believe that was more meaning select P1 and P2 , but who knows for sure 
  • know1
    know1 Posts: 6,801
    100 Pacer said:
    NewfieintheUSA said:
    PJ and Dylan are my muse said:

    the fact that selecting GA/P1 and P1 separately would increase your odds makes no sense at all

    It doesn't.
    The Ten Club info said it would, though. I checked both for my shows for that reason. 
    The only people we should try to get even with...
    ...are those who've helped us.

    Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
  • ER42262
    ER42262 Posts: 2
    Has anyone received an email saying that they did not get tickets?
  • SHZA
    SHZA St. Louis, MO USA Posts: 4,314
    RE4790 said:
    curmudgeoness said:
    Lerxst1992 said:
    SHZA said:
    PJ and Dylan are my muse said:
    RE4790 said:
    CurtisMartin said:
    Correct, the system is very flawed or corrupt.  Simple statistics show multiple people shouldn't be winning 8 shows and others getting nothing.  Time to stop wasting money on the ten club if this is how things are being handled.


    If every requester has exactly the same chance as every other requester at every show requested this absolutely could happen as winning a show has zero effect on winning any other show.  It's even possible the same 10 clubber could have been drawn as the first for every single show.

    This!
    Everyone knows it's possible. But if the odds of it happening are 1 in 10 million, yet the actual results are 1 in 100, something is wrong.

    People are getting confused with lottery odds. If I have a ten percent chance to win a high demand show and win, I still have a ten percent chance of winning the next show.

    but to win both, my odds are 1% (10%*10%)

    We are seeing fans go four for four (ny and Balt one chance each, Philly two chances)

    the odds of hitting all four assuming 10% odds are 10%*10%*10%*10% or 0.01%.

    to see that happen multiple times is astounding. It’s possible but very very strange.

    But we don't know what the odds for each show are. That makes a difference. Odds for pulling an MSG ticket were very low, due to both demand and fewer available seats. But what were the odds for, say, Portland? If there was a 90% chance of getting a ticket to one show, 75% chance at another, 25% chance at getting Philly 2, 10% chance of getting an MSG show, your total odds are different.

    And yes, if the odds of getting a ticket were 95%, someone still was getting shut out. I got Philly 1 and 2 but not Seattle 2, that's just how it turned out.

    Yup.  We have no idea if there are more or fewer people in the 10c now than when those odds were published years ago.  We have no idea if the price change kept people from entering the lotto or made people enter for fewer shows than years past.  Or the absence of priority for that matter.  Did everyone check all the ticket type boxes or just one?  Did that matter?   We just don't know.

    But I would add that if a result seems impossible based on a set of assumptions, then perhaps it's time to reassess those assumptions.
    Or time to reassess the integrity of the process 
  • know1
    know1 Posts: 6,801
    on2legs said:
    It's possible for each show there were 3 individual pulls for tickets.  First was for the GA section, then the P1 seats, and then for P2 seats.  If you checked all three you would have 3 chances to get seats.
    Some shows didn't have P2.
    The only people we should try to get even with...
    ...are those who've helped us.

    Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
  • DP15
    DP15 Posts: 12
    ER42262 said:
    Has anyone received an email saying that they did not get tickets?
    Nobody has received an email regarding that yet.

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