Ticketmaster now reserving the best seats for themselves

Wellwater Conspiracy
Wellwater Conspiracy Posts: 157
edited February 2024 in The Porch

 
All of the best seats in the house are now exempt from the Ten Club, and most likely "PJ Premium". Gross.
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  • hihobibo
    hihobibo Tampa, FL Posts: 1,151
    Maybe they get pushback because many people complain that all the good tickets are gone in pre-sales, etc before they even can get a chance to buy. Why does everyone need to pay to join a fan club to access good tickets? I get that it's different now than it was, but both sides need to negotiate something beneficial for each side. 
  • gotthebottle
    gotthebottle San Diego Posts: 3,898
    Nothing surprising 
  • Wellwater Conspiracy
    Wellwater Conspiracy Posts: 157
    hihobibo said:
    Maybe they get pushback because many people complain that all the good tickets are gone in pre-sales, etc before they even can get a chance to buy. Why does everyone need to pay to join a fan club to access good tickets? I get that it's different now than it was, but both sides need to negotiate something beneficial for each side. 
    They got pushback that there weren't enough tickets, so they removed all of the best tickets and added slightly more of the worst tickets? I don't think that's it.
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  • hihobibo
    hihobibo Tampa, FL Posts: 1,151
    It looks like in this example they took the lower level sides away from 10Club to go into general sale,  and added a bunch of upper level sections to 10 club allotment.  This lets the general sale have good tickets available,  but also likely lets tm add their variable pricing to those sections.  Definitely harder for them to do that in LA for upper level. 
  • mpedone
    mpedone 540xxx - Manchester, NH Posts: 1,961
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  • BF25394
    BF25394 Posts: 4,957
    edited February 2024
    Wellwater Conspiracy said:

     
    All of the best seats in the house are now exempt from the Ten Club, and most likely "PJ Premium". Gross.
    "All of" the best seats in the house? I'd rather be in Section C than Section 107.

    For that matter, I'd rather be in the front of 211 than in 107.
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  • Bentleyspop
    Bentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 11,715
    Nobody on this forum knows exactly where or how those tickets are being distributed. 

    Every tour people come on here and yell and scream and throw tantrums about Ticketmaster.

    And every tour people like me have to come on here and make it clear that no tickets are allocated, distributed, or sold without PJ and their management being a part of it.
    That includes pricing, limits, who gets what where Etc.

    And before the flames start I am in no way defending TMs practices.
  • JimmyV
    JimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,615
    Bentleyspop said:
    Nobody on this forum knows exactly where or how those tickets are being distributed. 

    Every tour people come on here and yell and scream and throw tantrums about Ticketmaster.

    And every tour people like me have to come on here and make it clear that no tickets are allocated, distributed, or sold without PJ and their management being a part of it.
    That includes pricing, limits, who gets what where Etc.

    And before the flames start I am in no way defending TMs practices.
    Agreed. It's a complicated issue but TM has become a convenient Boogeyman for many artists. 
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  • bootlegger10
    bootlegger10 Posts: 16,306
    edited February 2024
    Wellwater Conspiracy said:
    hihobibo said:
    Maybe they get pushback because many people complain that all the good tickets are gone in pre-sales, etc before they even can get a chance to buy. Why does everyone need to pay to join a fan club to access good tickets? I get that it's different now than it was, but both sides need to negotiate something beneficial for each side. 
    They got pushback that there weren't enough tickets, so they removed all of the best tickets and added slightly more of the worst tickets? I don't think that's it.
    I think this was part of it.  I think the Ten Club wanted more tickets for fan club members, and to do that they had to let the promoter/Ticketmaster have more of the primo seats. Maybe not the whole reason, but a big reason.

    For those that are upset, well, if you think you are better off trying to get tickets to MSG, Seattle or Philly without the fan club then sit this one out.  I'm thankful for what we can get and it is still pretty darn good.  I'm guessing people aren't going to sit out because they know it will be easier to get into the building via fan club that a Ticketmaster public on sale.  Plus, the GA pit is still fan club, so we are talking about a few sections of seats going to the rich.  Boo hoo.

    Times change. I'm much more upset about the trucker hats being replaced by a fedora. Ha.
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  • spankyMP
    spankyMP NY to NC to NH Posts: 2,119
    Many platinum tickets will sit and drop down to standard price prior to the show. Look at the Baltimore seating chart, it is a venue to venue thing. Locking up 10c tickets is probably pricey for the band, so MSG/LA and the like are understandably less 10C reserved.
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  • dmbolp
    dmbolp ATL Posts: 1,513
    Didn't they tell us last year that 10% of tickets are going towards Ticketmaster Platinums?  eye-balling it, I'd say those removed Lower sections are about 10% of the used venue
  • Zod
    Zod Posts: 10,982
    dmbolp said:
    Didn't they tell us last year that 10% of tickets are going towards Ticketmaster Platinums?  eye-balling it, I'd say those removed Lower sections are about 10% of the used venue

    they did, but I think we kind of hoped that 10% was scattered throughout the arena, not a big chunk of the best tickets in the closer sections :(
  • TA243471
    TA243471 The Great Northwest Posts: 1,253
    Well, I guess everybody should cancel their 10 Club memberships then.  Or move on.
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  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,716
    edited February 2024
    Wellwater Conspiracy said:

     
    All of the best seats in the house are now exempt from the Ten Club, and most likely "PJ Premium". Gross.
    Haha, this is a good illustration of the evolution of the Tenclub membership
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  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,716
    TA243471 said:
    Well, I guess everybody should cancel their 10 Club memberships then.  Or move on.
    Better to comment about it
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  • Kusy
    Kusy Posts: 351
    Membership terminated. Good riddance 10C! 
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  • mpedone
    mpedone 540xxx - Manchester, NH Posts: 1,961
    Zod said:
    dmbolp said:
    Didn't they tell us last year that 10% of tickets are going towards Ticketmaster Platinums?  eye-balling it, I'd say those removed Lower sections are about 10% of the used venue

    they did, but I think we kind of hoped that 10% was scattered throughout the arena, not a big chunk of the best tickets in the closer sections :(
    I think it was for the 2022 rescheduled shows, but that led to a lot of kinda crappy seats being sold as "premium". If they're going to subsidize us by hocking "premium" seats at outrageous prices, at least make them good seats. Of course, I say this as someone with no shot at those seats anyway. YMMV
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  • jimjam1982
    jimjam1982 AZ Posts: 1,471
    Wellwater Conspiracy said:

     
    All of the best seats in the house are now exempt from the Ten Club, and most likely "PJ Premium". Gross.
    Sad state of affairs to lose EVERY section that is good outside of Pit and E-A.

    At least if we select GA/Reserved we can't get dumped upstairs. Silver lining.


  • PJNB
    PJNB Posts: 13,890
    Zod said:
    dmbolp said:
    Didn't they tell us last year that 10% of tickets are going towards Ticketmaster Platinums?  eye-balling it, I'd say those removed Lower sections are about 10% of the used venue

    they did, but I think we kind of hoped that 10% was scattered throughout the arena, not a big chunk of the best tickets in the closer sections :(
    Premium will definitely be in the blue and orange areas as well for MSG.
  • ilockyer
    ilockyer Posts: 2,272
    edited February 2024
    JimmyV said:
    Bentleyspop said:
    Nobody on this forum knows exactly where or how those tickets are being distributed. 

    Every tour people come on here and yell and scream and throw tantrums about Ticketmaster.

    And every tour people like me have to come on here and make it clear that no tickets are allocated, distributed, or sold without PJ and their management being a part of it.
    That includes pricing, limits, who gets what where Etc.

    And before the flames start I am in no way defending TMs practices.
    Agreed. It's a complicated issue but TM has become a convenient Boogeyman for many artists. 
    It's become a convenient boogeyman for people who don't want to accept their favourite band has made the choice to make more money rather than prioritise the best seats for the fan club that probably give it an income of at least $2 mil a year (I've no idea how many active members there are) solely to get access to said tickets. 

    Robert Smith and The Cure proved that the fight can be won against Ticketmaster. Seems very few others want to go into bat as hard for their fans. 
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