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Zod said:mrussel1 said:Zod said:mrussel1 said:Merkin Baller said:mrussel1 said:Merkin Baller said:23scidoo said:Merkin Baller said:23scidoo said:Merkin Baller said:you really need to do better homework.“Reuters looked into the list of 108 names provided by Real Time News (bit.ly/32pqrt7 , page 6). It appears to be compiled using news reports of the deaths of 108 people, aged 12 – 64, worldwide.Among the sports attributed to the names are American football, archery, athletics, badminton, ballet, baseball, basketball, body building, boxing, canoeing, cricket, cycling, field hockey, footvolley, handball, ice hockey, rugby (league and union), soccer, table tennis, tennis, volleyball and weightlifting.While it is true that many of the deaths were linked in news reports to heart issues, there is no current evidence that they prove a common link between COVID-19 vaccines and fatality.In 53 cases, a cause of death was reported. These include heart attacks brought on by previously known or unknown heart conditions, while others included prior COVID-19 infections, a cerebral aneurysm, a traumatic brain injury, a motorbike accident, one suicide, two suspected suicides, heat stroke, and a rare congenital condition – anomalous origin of coronary artery.Moreover, one case was reported in August 2019, prior to the pandemic, and another had a family confirm their relative was not vaccinated.Some of the listed deaths also occurred prior to vaccine rollouts for respective age groups in certain countries.“
https://www.reuters.com/article/idUSL1N2T81NY/
This is a list of association football related deaths in 2021..
https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/2021_in_association_football_deaths
and thats only in football, ok??..
You’re doing great, here.
These aren’t young athletes dying from the vaccine…. Whatever argument you’re trying to make, you’re doing a terrible job of it.We’re 3 years past the vaccine rollout, and people aren’t dropping like flies from the vaccine. The truth hurts, I know.
lol, people without vaccines don't die?
I haven't seen any material that suggests excess deaths in vaccinated vs unvaccinated people?
I also always assumed that that mortality might decrease due to other factors, like a homogonized food supply (where most of us now eat mass produced, unhealthy food), or plastic/teflon pollution in almost everything. So scientifically it would be nice to have more information to to separate, are vaccines causing this, or is it other things in the environment. Maybe it's both, I don't know. Never done any science on it
nope. read it on the internet. an obscure website. totally believable. its true.....
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Zod said:mrussel1 said:Zod said:mrussel1 said:Merkin Baller said:mrussel1 said:Merkin Baller said:23scidoo said:Merkin Baller said:23scidoo said:Merkin Baller said:you really need to do better homework.“Reuters looked into the list of 108 names provided by Real Time News (bit.ly/32pqrt7 , page 6). It appears to be compiled using news reports of the deaths of 108 people, aged 12 – 64, worldwide.Among the sports attributed to the names are American football, archery, athletics, badminton, ballet, baseball, basketball, body building, boxing, canoeing, cricket, cycling, field hockey, footvolley, handball, ice hockey, rugby (league and union), soccer, table tennis, tennis, volleyball and weightlifting.While it is true that many of the deaths were linked in news reports to heart issues, there is no current evidence that they prove a common link between COVID-19 vaccines and fatality.In 53 cases, a cause of death was reported. These include heart attacks brought on by previously known or unknown heart conditions, while others included prior COVID-19 infections, a cerebral aneurysm, a traumatic brain injury, a motorbike accident, one suicide, two suspected suicides, heat stroke, and a rare congenital condition – anomalous origin of coronary artery.Moreover, one case was reported in August 2019, prior to the pandemic, and another had a family confirm their relative was not vaccinated.Some of the listed deaths also occurred prior to vaccine rollouts for respective age groups in certain countries.“
https://www.reuters.com/article/idUSL1N2T81NY/
This is a list of association football related deaths in 2021..
https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/2021_in_association_football_deaths
and thats only in football, ok??..
You’re doing great, here.
These aren’t young athletes dying from the vaccine…. Whatever argument you’re trying to make, you’re doing a terrible job of it.We’re 3 years past the vaccine rollout, and people aren’t dropping like flies from the vaccine. The truth hurts, I know.
lol, people without vaccines don't die?
I haven't seen any material that suggests excess deaths in vaccinated vs unvaccinated people?
I also always assumed that that mortality might decrease due to other factors, like a homogonized food supply (where most of us now eat mass produced, unhealthy food), or plastic/teflon pollution in almost everything. So scientifically it would be nice to have more information to to separate, are vaccines causing this, or is it other things in the environment. Maybe it's both, I don't know. Never done any science on it0 -
mrussel1 said:Zod said:mrussel1 said:Zod said:mrussel1 said:Merkin Baller said:mrussel1 said:Merkin Baller said:23scidoo said:Merkin Baller said:23scidoo said:Merkin Baller said:you really need to do better homework.“Reuters looked into the list of 108 names provided by Real Time News (bit.ly/32pqrt7 , page 6). It appears to be compiled using news reports of the deaths of 108 people, aged 12 – 64, worldwide.Among the sports attributed to the names are American football, archery, athletics, badminton, ballet, baseball, basketball, body building, boxing, canoeing, cricket, cycling, field hockey, footvolley, handball, ice hockey, rugby (league and union), soccer, table tennis, tennis, volleyball and weightlifting.While it is true that many of the deaths were linked in news reports to heart issues, there is no current evidence that they prove a common link between COVID-19 vaccines and fatality.In 53 cases, a cause of death was reported. These include heart attacks brought on by previously known or unknown heart conditions, while others included prior COVID-19 infections, a cerebral aneurysm, a traumatic brain injury, a motorbike accident, one suicide, two suspected suicides, heat stroke, and a rare congenital condition – anomalous origin of coronary artery.Moreover, one case was reported in August 2019, prior to the pandemic, and another had a family confirm their relative was not vaccinated.Some of the listed deaths also occurred prior to vaccine rollouts for respective age groups in certain countries.“
https://www.reuters.com/article/idUSL1N2T81NY/
This is a list of association football related deaths in 2021..
https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/2021_in_association_football_deaths
and thats only in football, ok??..
You’re doing great, here.
These aren’t young athletes dying from the vaccine…. Whatever argument you’re trying to make, you’re doing a terrible job of it.We’re 3 years past the vaccine rollout, and people aren’t dropping like flies from the vaccine. The truth hurts, I know.
lol, people without vaccines don't die?
I haven't seen any material that suggests excess deaths in vaccinated vs unvaccinated people?
I also always assumed that that mortality might decrease due to other factors, like a homogonized food supply (where most of us now eat mass produced, unhealthy food), or plastic/teflon pollution in almost everything. So scientifically it would be nice to have more information to to separate, are vaccines causing this, or is it other things in the environment. Maybe it's both, I don't know. Never done any science on it0 -
Zod said:mrussel1 said:Zod said:mrussel1 said:Zod said:mrussel1 said:Merkin Baller said:mrussel1 said:Merkin Baller said:23scidoo said:Merkin Baller said:23scidoo said:Merkin Baller said:you really need to do better homework.“Reuters looked into the list of 108 names provided by Real Time News (bit.ly/32pqrt7 , page 6). It appears to be compiled using news reports of the deaths of 108 people, aged 12 – 64, worldwide.Among the sports attributed to the names are American football, archery, athletics, badminton, ballet, baseball, basketball, body building, boxing, canoeing, cricket, cycling, field hockey, footvolley, handball, ice hockey, rugby (league and union), soccer, table tennis, tennis, volleyball and weightlifting.While it is true that many of the deaths were linked in news reports to heart issues, there is no current evidence that they prove a common link between COVID-19 vaccines and fatality.In 53 cases, a cause of death was reported. These include heart attacks brought on by previously known or unknown heart conditions, while others included prior COVID-19 infections, a cerebral aneurysm, a traumatic brain injury, a motorbike accident, one suicide, two suspected suicides, heat stroke, and a rare congenital condition – anomalous origin of coronary artery.Moreover, one case was reported in August 2019, prior to the pandemic, and another had a family confirm their relative was not vaccinated.Some of the listed deaths also occurred prior to vaccine rollouts for respective age groups in certain countries.“
https://www.reuters.com/article/idUSL1N2T81NY/
This is a list of association football related deaths in 2021..
https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/2021_in_association_football_deaths
and thats only in football, ok??..
You’re doing great, here.
These aren’t young athletes dying from the vaccine…. Whatever argument you’re trying to make, you’re doing a terrible job of it.We’re 3 years past the vaccine rollout, and people aren’t dropping like flies from the vaccine. The truth hurts, I know.
lol, people without vaccines don't die?
I haven't seen any material that suggests excess deaths in vaccinated vs unvaccinated people?
I also always assumed that that mortality might decrease due to other factors, like a homogonized food supply (where most of us now eat mass produced, unhealthy food), or plastic/teflon pollution in almost everything. So scientifically it would be nice to have more information to to separate, are vaccines causing this, or is it other things in the environment. Maybe it's both, I don't know. Never done any science on it0 -
mrussel1 said:Zod said:mrussel1 said:Zod said:mrussel1 said:Zod said:mrussel1 said:Merkin Baller said:mrussel1 said:Merkin Baller said:23scidoo said:Merkin Baller said:23scidoo said:Merkin Baller said:you really need to do better homework.“Reuters looked into the list of 108 names provided by Real Time News (bit.ly/32pqrt7 , page 6). It appears to be compiled using news reports of the deaths of 108 people, aged 12 – 64, worldwide.Among the sports attributed to the names are American football, archery, athletics, badminton, ballet, baseball, basketball, body building, boxing, canoeing, cricket, cycling, field hockey, footvolley, handball, ice hockey, rugby (league and union), soccer, table tennis, tennis, volleyball and weightlifting.While it is true that many of the deaths were linked in news reports to heart issues, there is no current evidence that they prove a common link between COVID-19 vaccines and fatality.In 53 cases, a cause of death was reported. These include heart attacks brought on by previously known or unknown heart conditions, while others included prior COVID-19 infections, a cerebral aneurysm, a traumatic brain injury, a motorbike accident, one suicide, two suspected suicides, heat stroke, and a rare congenital condition – anomalous origin of coronary artery.Moreover, one case was reported in August 2019, prior to the pandemic, and another had a family confirm their relative was not vaccinated.Some of the listed deaths also occurred prior to vaccine rollouts for respective age groups in certain countries.“
https://www.reuters.com/article/idUSL1N2T81NY/
This is a list of association football related deaths in 2021..
https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/2021_in_association_football_deaths
and thats only in football, ok??..
You’re doing great, here.
These aren’t young athletes dying from the vaccine…. Whatever argument you’re trying to make, you’re doing a terrible job of it.We’re 3 years past the vaccine rollout, and people aren’t dropping like flies from the vaccine. The truth hurts, I know.
lol, people without vaccines don't die?
I haven't seen any material that suggests excess deaths in vaccinated vs unvaccinated people?
I also always assumed that that mortality might decrease due to other factors, like a homogonized food supply (where most of us now eat mass produced, unhealthy food), or plastic/teflon pollution in almost everything. So scientifically it would be nice to have more information to to separate, are vaccines causing this, or is it other things in the environment. Maybe it's both, I don't know. Never done any science on it
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Merkin Baller said:23scidoo said:Merkin Baller said:mrussel1 said:Merkin Baller said:23scidoo said:Merkin Baller said:23scidoo said:Merkin Baller said:you really need to do better homework.“Reuters looked into the list of 108 names provided by Real Time News (bit.ly/32pqrt7 , page 6). It appears to be compiled using news reports of the deaths of 108 people, aged 12 – 64, worldwide.Among the sports attributed to the names are American football, archery, athletics, badminton, ballet, baseball, basketball, body building, boxing, canoeing, cricket, cycling, field hockey, footvolley, handball, ice hockey, rugby (league and union), soccer, table tennis, tennis, volleyball and weightlifting.While it is true that many of the deaths were linked in news reports to heart issues, there is no current evidence that they prove a common link between COVID-19 vaccines and fatality.In 53 cases, a cause of death was reported. These include heart attacks brought on by previously known or unknown heart conditions, while others included prior COVID-19 infections, a cerebral aneurysm, a traumatic brain injury, a motorbike accident, one suicide, two suspected suicides, heat stroke, and a rare congenital condition – anomalous origin of coronary artery.Moreover, one case was reported in August 2019, prior to the pandemic, and another had a family confirm their relative was not vaccinated.Some of the listed deaths also occurred prior to vaccine rollouts for respective age groups in certain countries.“
https://www.reuters.com/article/idUSL1N2T81NY/
This is a list of association football related deaths in 2021..
https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/2021_in_association_football_deaths
and thats only in football, ok??..
You’re doing great, here.
These aren’t young athletes dying from the vaccine…. Whatever argument you’re trying to make, you’re doing a terrible job of it.We’re 3 years past the vaccine rollout, and people aren’t dropping like flies from the vaccine. The truth hurts, I know.Athens 2006. Dusseldorf 2007. Berlin 2009. Venice 2010. Amsterdam 1 2012. Amsterdam 1+2 2014. Buenos Aires 2015.
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23scidoo said:mrussel1 said:Merkin Baller said:23scidoo said:Merkin Baller said:23scidoo said:Merkin Baller said:you really need to do better homework.“Reuters looked into the list of 108 names provided by Real Time News (bit.ly/32pqrt7 , page 6). It appears to be compiled using news reports of the deaths of 108 people, aged 12 – 64, worldwide.Among the sports attributed to the names are American football, archery, athletics, badminton, ballet, baseball, basketball, body building, boxing, canoeing, cricket, cycling, field hockey, footvolley, handball, ice hockey, rugby (league and union), soccer, table tennis, tennis, volleyball and weightlifting.While it is true that many of the deaths were linked in news reports to heart issues, there is no current evidence that they prove a common link between COVID-19 vaccines and fatality.In 53 cases, a cause of death was reported. These include heart attacks brought on by previously known or unknown heart conditions, while others included prior COVID-19 infections, a cerebral aneurysm, a traumatic brain injury, a motorbike accident, one suicide, two suspected suicides, heat stroke, and a rare congenital condition – anomalous origin of coronary artery.Moreover, one case was reported in August 2019, prior to the pandemic, and another had a family confirm their relative was not vaccinated.Some of the listed deaths also occurred prior to vaccine rollouts for respective age groups in certain countries.“
https://www.reuters.com/article/idUSL1N2T81NY/
This is a list of association football related deaths in 2021..
https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/2021_in_association_football_deaths
and thats only in football, ok??..
You’re doing great, here.
These aren’t young athletes dying from the vaccine…. Whatever argument you’re trying to make, you’re doing a terrible job of it.We’re 3 years past the vaccine rollout, and people aren’t dropping like flies from the vaccine. The truth hurts, I know.
https://www.globalresearch.ca/slovakia-prime-minister-robert-fico-orders-investigation-covid-19-pandemic-management-vaccines-21000-excess-deaths-announced-slovakia-since-2020/5848126
Athens 2006. Dusseldorf 2007. Berlin 2009. Venice 2010. Amsterdam 1 2012. Amsterdam 1+2 2014. Buenos Aires 2015.
Prague Krakow Berlin 2018. Berlin 2022
EV, Taormina 1+2 2017.
I wish i was the souvenir you kept your house key on..0 -
23scidoo said:23scidoo said:mrussel1 said:Merkin Baller said:23scidoo said:Merkin Baller said:23scidoo said:Merkin Baller said:you really need to do better homework.“Reuters looked into the list of 108 names provided by Real Time News (bit.ly/32pqrt7 , page 6). It appears to be compiled using news reports of the deaths of 108 people, aged 12 – 64, worldwide.Among the sports attributed to the names are American football, archery, athletics, badminton, ballet, baseball, basketball, body building, boxing, canoeing, cricket, cycling, field hockey, footvolley, handball, ice hockey, rugby (league and union), soccer, table tennis, tennis, volleyball and weightlifting.While it is true that many of the deaths were linked in news reports to heart issues, there is no current evidence that they prove a common link between COVID-19 vaccines and fatality.In 53 cases, a cause of death was reported. These include heart attacks brought on by previously known or unknown heart conditions, while others included prior COVID-19 infections, a cerebral aneurysm, a traumatic brain injury, a motorbike accident, one suicide, two suspected suicides, heat stroke, and a rare congenital condition – anomalous origin of coronary artery.Moreover, one case was reported in August 2019, prior to the pandemic, and another had a family confirm their relative was not vaccinated.Some of the listed deaths also occurred prior to vaccine rollouts for respective age groups in certain countries.“
https://www.reuters.com/article/idUSL1N2T81NY/
This is a list of association football related deaths in 2021..
https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/2021_in_association_football_deaths
and thats only in football, ok??..
You’re doing great, here.
These aren’t young athletes dying from the vaccine…. Whatever argument you’re trying to make, you’re doing a terrible job of it.We’re 3 years past the vaccine rollout, and people aren’t dropping like flies from the vaccine. The truth hurts, I know.
https://www.globalresearch.ca/slovakia-prime-minister-robert-fico-orders-investigation-covid-19-pandemic-management-vaccines-21000-excess-deaths-announced-slovakia-since-2020/58481260 -
23scidoo said:Merkin Baller said:23scidoo said:Merkin Baller said:mrussel1 said:Merkin Baller said:23scidoo said:Merkin Baller said:23scidoo said:Merkin Baller said:you really need to do better homework.“Reuters looked into the list of 108 names provided by Real Time News (bit.ly/32pqrt7 , page 6). It appears to be compiled using news reports of the deaths of 108 people, aged 12 – 64, worldwide.Among the sports attributed to the names are American football, archery, athletics, badminton, ballet, baseball, basketball, body building, boxing, canoeing, cricket, cycling, field hockey, footvolley, handball, ice hockey, rugby (league and union), soccer, table tennis, tennis, volleyball and weightlifting.While it is true that many of the deaths were linked in news reports to heart issues, there is no current evidence that they prove a common link between COVID-19 vaccines and fatality.In 53 cases, a cause of death was reported. These include heart attacks brought on by previously known or unknown heart conditions, while others included prior COVID-19 infections, a cerebral aneurysm, a traumatic brain injury, a motorbike accident, one suicide, two suspected suicides, heat stroke, and a rare congenital condition – anomalous origin of coronary artery.Moreover, one case was reported in August 2019, prior to the pandemic, and another had a family confirm their relative was not vaccinated.Some of the listed deaths also occurred prior to vaccine rollouts for respective age groups in certain countries.“
https://www.reuters.com/article/idUSL1N2T81NY/
This is a list of association football related deaths in 2021..
https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/2021_in_association_football_deaths
and thats only in football, ok??..
You’re doing great, here.
These aren’t young athletes dying from the vaccine…. Whatever argument you’re trying to make, you’re doing a terrible job of it.We’re 3 years past the vaccine rollout, and people aren’t dropping like flies from the vaccine. The truth hurts, I know.
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Question for those of you who had the most recent Moderna vaccination (late 2923/ early 2024): How well did you do with that vaccination? I got it in November of 2023, just shy of three months ago. Did you have adverse side affects more or less or same as previous vaccinations?I'm curious because this last one was brutal for me. I was down really hard for close to three days afterward and have had iffy health ever since. I get frequent days where I feel certain I am coming down with a flu bug or some virus, yet within a few to several hours or occasionally close to a full day, feel like my normal only semi-crappy self again (I almost never feel truly well). Stamina and energy are down. I've developed an autoimmune issue that mainly has manifested itself as ulcerated oral lichen planus (not cancer- I've had two biopsies that were both negative for cancer- and am told will have the autoimmune issue for the rest of my life).
I'm not saying these issues were caused by the vaccine, but I certainly cannot rule that out. Doctors don't seem to know. I've tested for COVID several times and always test negative, so it's not that.
So I'm just curious if any of you have had issues since getting the last vaccination. Maybe it's just my age, but honestly, I was hoping to do better than this until at least into my 80s. Maybe I just drew a bum card, I don't know."It's a sad and beautiful world"-Roberto Benigni0 -
Oh man, I’m really sorry to hear this, Brian.0
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Merkin Baller said:Oh man, I’m really sorry to hear this, Brian.
Thanks so much!
It could be worse, and I know/ have know people with much worse, and I do try to remember that things could be a lot worse. I just really hope none of this is vaccine related. I've been very good about getting all of the vaccinations.
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had pfizer all along including this past dec. side effects lessened each time including less soreness at injection site
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I had moderna for my 3rd shot. The day after, it was similar to a Pfizer. Sore arm, kind of lathargic and felt a bit off. The problem was later that night about 24 hours after the shot I developed an insanely bad fever. I tried to bury myself under all the blankets in the house because I couldn't stop shivering. Ended up getting heat rash all over myself. It was a shitty weekend.I almost didn't get a fourth but I waited extra months for pfizer shots to be around, and luckily it was pfizer.I haven't bothered on a 5th shot. I had covid once in May 2022. I've been sick 3 times since, none of which have been covid. I dunno. I'm good. The most sick I've been in the last 8 years was from the moderna shot.0
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Zod said:I had moderna for my 3rd shot. The day after, it was similar to a Pfizer. Sore arm, kind of lathargic and felt a bit off. The problem was later that night about 24 hours after the shot I developed an insanely bad fever. I tried to bury myself under all the blankets in the house because I couldn't stop shivering. Ended up getting heat rash all over myself. It was a shitty weekend.I almost didn't get a fourth but I waited extra months for pfizer shots to be around, and luckily it was pfizer.I haven't bothered on a 5th shot. I had covid once in May 2022. I've been sick 3 times since, none of which have been covid. I dunno. I'm good. The most sick I've been in the last 8 years was from the moderna shot.Does not sound like a good time, Zod! I hope all ill effects have passed.I'm not against vax, but I won't do another until I'm sure it has not been rushed and has widespread confidence. I can't again chance what I went through the last time."It's a sad and beautiful world"-Roberto Benigni0
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I was going to get a booster then I got covid. My 2nd time.Sorry to hear if your struggles Brian .Hugh Freaking Dillon is currently out of the office, returning sometime in the fall0
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I got the first 2 rounds and 1 booster. Haven't gotten one since. Why? Two main reasons, i got covid and since then never again, even after riding in a car for 8 hours, staying in the same room with, and riding another 8 hours in car with someone that tested positive the day after our last car ride.
The second, I think I'm just a bit lazy. Get flu shot at work, if I could get the covid shot at the same time I would. But I've gotten complacent and lazy about it.
Brian - I wish you well. I hope whatever you have going on improves for you. Feeling poorly really sucks.hippiemom = goodness0 -
brianlux said:Question for those of you who had the most recent Moderna vaccination (late 2923/ early 2024): How well did you do with that vaccination? I got it in November of 2023, just shy of three months ago. Did you have adverse side affects more or less or same as previous vaccinations?I'm curious because this last one was brutal for me. I was down really hard for close to three days afterward and have had iffy health ever since. I get frequent days where I feel certain I am coming down with a flu bug or some virus, yet within a few to several hours or occasionally close to a full day, feel like my normal only semi-crappy self again (I almost never feel truly well). Stamina and energy are down. I've developed an autoimmune issue that mainly has manifested itself as ulcerated oral lichen planus (not cancer- I've had two biopsies that were both negative for cancer- and am told will have the autoimmune issue for the rest of my life).
I'm not saying these issues were caused by the vaccine, but I certainly cannot rule that out. Doctors don't seem to know. I've tested for COVID several times and always test negative, so it's not that.
So I'm just curious if any of you have had issues since getting the last vaccination. Maybe it's just my age, but honestly, I was hoping to do better than this until at least into my 80s. Maybe I just drew a bum card, I don't know.
I only had the 2 Moderna shots and 1 booster. Got lazy I guess. I had Covid in summer of 2022 during the PJ spread event (haha) and just a few weeks ago had covid but was not bad. Felt worse with the flu I got 1st week of January. I tested negative twice for Covid then but who know.
I have never gotten a flu shot. I do need to get a shingles vaccine.
I hope you start getting better and better days, BrianSo I'll just lie down and wait for the dream
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cincybearcat said:I got the first 2 rounds and 1 booster. Haven't gotten one since. Why? Two main reasons, i got covid and since then never again, even after riding in a car for 8 hours, staying in the same room with, and riding another 8 hours in car with someone that tested positive the day after our last car ride.
The second, I think I'm just a bit lazy. Get flu shot at work, if I could get the covid shot at the same time I would. But I've gotten complacent and lazy about it.
Brian - I wish you well. I hope whatever you have going on improves for you. Feeling poorly really sucks.
I never considered it because I also know people that have had it three times.
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brianlux said:Question for those of you who had the most recent Moderna vaccination (late 2923/ early 2024): How well did you do with that vaccination? I got it in November of 2023, just shy of three months ago. Did you have adverse side affects more or less or same as previous vaccinations?I'm curious because this last one was brutal for me. I was down really hard for close to three days afterward and have had iffy health ever since. I get frequent days where I feel certain I am coming down with a flu bug or some virus, yet within a few to several hours or occasionally close to a full day, feel like my normal only semi-crappy self again (I almost never feel truly well). Stamina and energy are down. I've developed an autoimmune issue that mainly has manifested itself as ulcerated oral lichen planus (not cancer- I've had two biopsies that were both negative for cancer- and am told will have the autoimmune issue for the rest of my life).
I'm not saying these issues were caused by the vaccine, but I certainly cannot rule that out. Doctors don't seem to know. I've tested for COVID several times and always test negative, so it's not that.
So I'm just curious if any of you have had issues since getting the last vaccination. Maybe it's just my age, but honestly, I was hoping to do better than this until at least into my 80s. Maybe I just drew a bum card, I don't know.
Your story makes me more nervous because this seems like a potential longer term impact. Even that bad three days, as un-fun as that is, doesn't strike me as worrying. But what you've been going through since makes me nervous. Hopefully you get it all figured out...Best of luck.1995 Milwaukee 1998 Alpine, Alpine 2003 Albany, Boston, Boston, Boston 2004 Boston, Boston 2006 Hartford, St. Paul (Petty), St. Paul (Petty) 2011 Alpine, Alpine
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OnWis97 said:cincybearcat said:I got the first 2 rounds and 1 booster. Haven't gotten one since. Why? Two main reasons, i got covid and since then never again, even after riding in a car for 8 hours, staying in the same room with, and riding another 8 hours in car with someone that tested positive the day after our last car ride.
The second, I think I'm just a bit lazy. Get flu shot at work, if I could get the covid shot at the same time I would. But I've gotten complacent and lazy about it.
Brian - I wish you well. I hope whatever you have going on improves for you. Feeling poorly really sucks.
I never considered it because I also know people that have had it three times.
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OnWis97 said:cincybearcat said:I got the first 2 rounds and 1 booster. Haven't gotten one since. Why? Two main reasons, i got covid and since then never again, even after riding in a car for 8 hours, staying in the same room with, and riding another 8 hours in car with someone that tested positive the day after our last car ride.
The second, I think I'm just a bit lazy. Get flu shot at work, if I could get the covid shot at the same time I would. But I've gotten complacent and lazy about it.
Brian - I wish you well. I hope whatever you have going on improves for you. Feeling poorly really sucks.
I never considered it because I also know people that have had it three times.
It's all a mystery.
Granted, I slept on the couch, but we weren't completely avoiding each other, and we were sleeping in the same bed right up until the morning she tested positive... how I didn't get it is beyond me (I tested twice too, and was negative both times)0 -
Thanks for your input and good wishes, everybody!I probably will never know why I have an autoimmune disease. Probably not due to the vaccine, but who knows? It's one of those sketchy things that modern medicine is still fairly unclear about. I just have to be thankful to still be kickin', and that at this point it's not something worse. If I were to croak tomorrow, I would say I've had a good life (well, actually, I would cease talking altogether, haha). Meanwhile, as they say, I'm keepin' on keepin' on.Thanks again, friends."It's a sad and beautiful world"-Roberto Benigni0
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Sorry to hear of the issues you've experienced recently, Brian. Now for an inspirational quote"Hang in there. If you believe what you're doing is unique. Otherwise give up or sound like Nirvana or Pearl Jam."-- Joey Ramone0
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brianlux said:Question for those of you who had the most recent Moderna vaccination (late 2923/ early 2024): How well did you do with that vaccination? I got it in November of 2023, just shy of three months ago. Did you have adverse side affects more or less or same as previous vaccinations?I'm curious because this last one was brutal for me. I was down really hard for close to three days afterward and have had iffy health ever since. I get frequent days where I feel certain I am coming down with a flu bug or some virus, yet within a few to several hours or occasionally close to a full day, feel like my normal only semi-crappy self again (I almost never feel truly well). Stamina and energy are down. I've developed an autoimmune issue that mainly has manifested itself as ulcerated oral lichen planus (not cancer- I've had two biopsies that were both negative for cancer- and am told will have the autoimmune issue for the rest of my life).
I'm not saying these issues were caused by the vaccine, but I certainly cannot rule that out. Doctors don't seem to know. I've tested for COVID several times and always test negative, so it's not that.
So I'm just curious if any of you have had issues since getting the last vaccination. Maybe it's just my age, but honestly, I was hoping to do better than this until at least into my 80s. Maybe I just drew a bum card, I don't know.
Each time the side effects have been less and less.
This time just felt a little off the next morning but that dissipated quickly.0 -
Autoimmune problems can come from vaccines and from virus could be either. I think the immune system goes into overdrive at the time. Probably never know but I hope it's manageable Brian. Take care my friendbrixton 93
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Go Beavers said:23scidoo said:23scidoo said:mrussel1 said:Merkin Baller said:23scidoo said:Merkin Baller said:23scidoo said:Merkin Baller said:you really need to do better homework.“Reuters looked into the list of 108 names provided by Real Time News (bit.ly/32pqrt7 , page 6). It appears to be compiled using news reports of the deaths of 108 people, aged 12 – 64, worldwide.Among the sports attributed to the names are American football, archery, athletics, badminton, ballet, baseball, basketball, body building, boxing, canoeing, cricket, cycling, field hockey, footvolley, handball, ice hockey, rugby (league and union), soccer, table tennis, tennis, volleyball and weightlifting.While it is true that many of the deaths were linked in news reports to heart issues, there is no current evidence that they prove a common link between COVID-19 vaccines and fatality.In 53 cases, a cause of death was reported. These include heart attacks brought on by previously known or unknown heart conditions, while others included prior COVID-19 infections, a cerebral aneurysm, a traumatic brain injury, a motorbike accident, one suicide, two suspected suicides, heat stroke, and a rare congenital condition – anomalous origin of coronary artery.Moreover, one case was reported in August 2019, prior to the pandemic, and another had a family confirm their relative was not vaccinated.Some of the listed deaths also occurred prior to vaccine rollouts for respective age groups in certain countries.“
https://www.reuters.com/article/idUSL1N2T81NY/
This is a list of association football related deaths in 2021..
https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/2021_in_association_football_deaths
and thats only in football, ok??..
You’re doing great, here.
These aren’t young athletes dying from the vaccine…. Whatever argument you’re trying to make, you’re doing a terrible job of it.We’re 3 years past the vaccine rollout, and people aren’t dropping like flies from the vaccine. The truth hurts, I know.
https://www.globalresearch.ca/slovakia-prime-minister-robert-fico-orders-investigation-covid-19-pandemic-management-vaccines-21000-excess-deaths-announced-slovakia-since-2020/5848126
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Prague Krakow Berlin 2018. Berlin 2022
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I wish i was the souvenir you kept your house key on..0 -
Merkin Baller said:23scidoo said:Merkin Baller said:23scidoo said:Merkin Baller said:mrussel1 said:Merkin Baller said:23scidoo said:Merkin Baller said:23scidoo said:Merkin Baller said:you really need to do better homework.“Reuters looked into the list of 108 names provided by Real Time News (bit.ly/32pqrt7 , page 6). It appears to be compiled using news reports of the deaths of 108 people, aged 12 – 64, worldwide.Among the sports attributed to the names are American football, archery, athletics, badminton, ballet, baseball, basketball, body building, boxing, canoeing, cricket, cycling, field hockey, footvolley, handball, ice hockey, rugby (league and union), soccer, table tennis, tennis, volleyball and weightlifting.While it is true that many of the deaths were linked in news reports to heart issues, there is no current evidence that they prove a common link between COVID-19 vaccines and fatality.In 53 cases, a cause of death was reported. These include heart attacks brought on by previously known or unknown heart conditions, while others included prior COVID-19 infections, a cerebral aneurysm, a traumatic brain injury, a motorbike accident, one suicide, two suspected suicides, heat stroke, and a rare congenital condition – anomalous origin of coronary artery.Moreover, one case was reported in August 2019, prior to the pandemic, and another had a family confirm their relative was not vaccinated.Some of the listed deaths also occurred prior to vaccine rollouts for respective age groups in certain countries.“
https://www.reuters.com/article/idUSL1N2T81NY/
This is a list of association football related deaths in 2021..
https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/2021_in_association_football_deaths
and thats only in football, ok??..
You’re doing great, here.
These aren’t young athletes dying from the vaccine…. Whatever argument you’re trying to make, you’re doing a terrible job of it.We’re 3 years past the vaccine rollout, and people aren’t dropping like flies from the vaccine. The truth hurts, I know.
Athens 2006. Dusseldorf 2007. Berlin 2009. Venice 2010. Amsterdam 1 2012. Amsterdam 1+2 2014. Buenos Aires 2015.
Prague Krakow Berlin 2018. Berlin 2022
EV, Taormina 1+2 2017.
I wish i was the souvenir you kept your house key on..0 -
23scidoo said:Merkin Baller said:23scidoo said:Merkin Baller said:23scidoo said:Merkin Baller said:mrussel1 said:Merkin Baller said:23scidoo said:Merkin Baller said:23scidoo said:Merkin Baller said:you really need to do better homework.“Reuters looked into the list of 108 names provided by Real Time News (bit.ly/32pqrt7 , page 6). It appears to be compiled using news reports of the deaths of 108 people, aged 12 – 64, worldwide.Among the sports attributed to the names are American football, archery, athletics, badminton, ballet, baseball, basketball, body building, boxing, canoeing, cricket, cycling, field hockey, footvolley, handball, ice hockey, rugby (league and union), soccer, table tennis, tennis, volleyball and weightlifting.While it is true that many of the deaths were linked in news reports to heart issues, there is no current evidence that they prove a common link between COVID-19 vaccines and fatality.In 53 cases, a cause of death was reported. These include heart attacks brought on by previously known or unknown heart conditions, while others included prior COVID-19 infections, a cerebral aneurysm, a traumatic brain injury, a motorbike accident, one suicide, two suspected suicides, heat stroke, and a rare congenital condition – anomalous origin of coronary artery.Moreover, one case was reported in August 2019, prior to the pandemic, and another had a family confirm their relative was not vaccinated.Some of the listed deaths also occurred prior to vaccine rollouts for respective age groups in certain countries.“
https://www.reuters.com/article/idUSL1N2T81NY/
This is a list of association football related deaths in 2021..
https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/2021_in_association_football_deaths
and thats only in football, ok??..
You’re doing great, here.
These aren’t young athletes dying from the vaccine…. Whatever argument you’re trying to make, you’re doing a terrible job of it.We’re 3 years past the vaccine rollout, and people aren’t dropping like flies from the vaccine. The truth hurts, I know.0 -
23scidoo said:23scidoo said:mrussel1 said:Merkin Baller said:23scidoo said:Merkin Baller said:23scidoo said:Merkin Baller said:you really need to do better homework.“Reuters looked into the list of 108 names provided by Real Time News (bit.ly/32pqrt7 , page 6). It appears to be compiled using news reports of the deaths of 108 people, aged 12 – 64, worldwide.Among the sports attributed to the names are American football, archery, athletics, badminton, ballet, baseball, basketball, body building, boxing, canoeing, cricket, cycling, field hockey, footvolley, handball, ice hockey, rugby (league and union), soccer, table tennis, tennis, volleyball and weightlifting.While it is true that many of the deaths were linked in news reports to heart issues, there is no current evidence that they prove a common link between COVID-19 vaccines and fatality.In 53 cases, a cause of death was reported. These include heart attacks brought on by previously known or unknown heart conditions, while others included prior COVID-19 infections, a cerebral aneurysm, a traumatic brain injury, a motorbike accident, one suicide, two suspected suicides, heat stroke, and a rare congenital condition – anomalous origin of coronary artery.Moreover, one case was reported in August 2019, prior to the pandemic, and another had a family confirm their relative was not vaccinated.Some of the listed deaths also occurred prior to vaccine rollouts for respective age groups in certain countries.“
https://www.reuters.com/article/idUSL1N2T81NY/
This is a list of association football related deaths in 2021..
https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/2021_in_association_football_deaths
and thats only in football, ok??..
You’re doing great, here.
These aren’t young athletes dying from the vaccine…. Whatever argument you’re trying to make, you’re doing a terrible job of it.We’re 3 years past the vaccine rollout, and people aren’t dropping like flies from the vaccine. The truth hurts, I know.
https://www.globalresearch.ca/slovakia-prime-minister-robert-fico-orders-investigation-covid-19-pandemic-management-vaccines-21000-excess-deaths-announced-slovakia-since-2020/5848126
-the flu virus is rampant and hospital emergency departments are overcrowded
-because of this load (and the flu spreading), they have reduced teams and limited services
-the excess deaths began during the pandemic before the mass roll-out of Covid vaccines
-as of 2022, 30 million diagnostic tests had been given lesser priority given the load on the medical system - this inevitably increases mortality over a long-enough timespan
-they admit to making mistakes on the number of fatalities from Covid, which led them to prioritize treatment of it over other ailments
https://www.portugalresident.com/portugal-registers-highest-level-of-excess-deaths-in-europe/
https://www.portugalresident.com/30-million-diagnostic-tests-just-didnt-get-done-due-to-pandemic/
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