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  • lastexitlondon
    lastexitlondon Posts: 15,108
    I would ask mine he has many qualifications and 35 years practice. Probably knows a lot


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  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 31,013
    lastexitlondon said:
    The truth is the truth regardless 
    Wait a minute... you think it's "the truth" that MRNA alters your DNA?  We've had MRNA for over 20 years.  
  • lastexitlondon
    lastexitlondon Posts: 15,108
    For example my daughter is in 3rd year uni neuro science and knows a lot about DNA and how it all works they learn it at an early stage


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  • lastexitlondon
    lastexitlondon Posts: 15,108
    mrussel1 said:
    lastexitlondon said:
    The truth is the truth regardless 
    Wait a minute... you think it's "the truth" that MRNA alters your DNA?  We've had MRNA for over 20 years.  
    Mate I haven't told you my opinion. I don't play your dumb games. Find another to play with 


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  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 31,013
    lastexitlondon said:
    mrussel1 said:
    lastexitlondon said:
    The truth is the truth regardless 
    Wait a minute... you think it's "the truth" that MRNA alters your DNA?  We've had MRNA for over 20 years.  
    Mate I haven't told you my opinion. I don't play your dumb games. Find another to play with 
    The truth is the truth regardless 

    That's your quote.  And the video is about MRNA introducing foreign DNA and altering your DNA.  So don't give me any cop-out statement about your opinion.  You said it's the truth.  And that's the dumbest fucking thing I've read today. But it's early.  
  • lastexitlondon
    lastexitlondon Posts: 15,108
    I'm objective and don't believe much I keep an open mind and try to learn as much as possible what I think
     You think or any other person here matters not. All I said was there is an interesting interview and the truth is truth in general. None of us know the truth we only have opinion. 


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  • lastexitlondon
    lastexitlondon Posts: 15,108
    mrussel1 said:
    lastexitlondon said:
    mrussel1 said:
    lastexitlondon said:
    The truth is the truth regardless 
    Wait a minute... you think it's "the truth" that MRNA alters your DNA?  We've had MRNA for over 20 years.  
    Mate I haven't told you my opinion. I don't play your dumb games. Find another to play with 
    The truth is the truth regardless 

    That's your quote.  And the video is about MRNA introducing foreign DNA and altering your DNA.  So don't give me any cop-out statement about your opinion.  You said it's the truth.  And that's the dumbest fucking thing I've read today. But it's early.  
    I never once said" it's "the truth read back.  Believe what you want


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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 40,117
    mrussel1 said:
    lastexitlondon said:
    mrussel1 said:
    lastexitlondon said:
    The truth is the truth regardless 
    Wait a minute... you think it's "the truth" that MRNA alters your DNA?  We've had MRNA for over 20 years.  
    Mate I haven't told you my opinion. I don't play your dumb games. Find another to play with 
    The truth is the truth regardless 

    That's your quote.  And the video is about MRNA introducing foreign DNA and altering your DNA.  So don't give me any cop-out statement about your opinion.  You said it's the truth.  And that's the dumbest fucking thing I've read today. But it's early.  
    I didn't take his 'truth is the truth" as saying tucker's video was the truth, just a general statement that it doesn't matter who says the truth, if it's true it's true. 
    Your boos mean nothing to me, for I have seen what makes you cheer



  • lastexitlondon
    lastexitlondon Posts: 15,108
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    mrussel1 said:
    lastexitlondon said:
    mrussel1 said:
    lastexitlondon said:
    The truth is the truth regardless 
    Wait a minute... you think it's "the truth" that MRNA alters your DNA?  We've had MRNA for over 20 years.  
    Mate I haven't told you my opinion. I don't play your dumb games. Find another to play with 
    The truth is the truth regardless 

    That's your quote.  And the video is about MRNA introducing foreign DNA and altering your DNA.  So don't give me any cop-out statement about your opinion.  You said it's the truth.  And that's the dumbest fucking thing I've read today. But it's early.  
    I didn't take his 'truth is the truth" as saying tucker's video was the truth, just a general statement that it doesn't matter who says the truth, if it's true it's true. 
    Exactly what I typed some people want a fight. It's ok. I'm a big boy.  I've dealt with many like this. I'm glad you read what I typed and not what you wanted to have someone type to have a fight. Thank you


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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 40,117
    lastexitlondon said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    mrussel1 said:
    lastexitlondon said:
    mrussel1 said:
    lastexitlondon said:
    The truth is the truth regardless 
    Wait a minute... you think it's "the truth" that MRNA alters your DNA?  We've had MRNA for over 20 years.  
    Mate I haven't told you my opinion. I don't play your dumb games. Find another to play with 
    The truth is the truth regardless 

    That's your quote.  And the video is about MRNA introducing foreign DNA and altering your DNA.  So don't give me any cop-out statement about your opinion.  You said it's the truth.  And that's the dumbest fucking thing I've read today. But it's early.  
    I didn't take his 'truth is the truth" as saying tucker's video was the truth, just a general statement that it doesn't matter who says the truth, if it's true it's true. 
    Exactly what I typed some people want a fight. It's ok. I'm a big boy.  I've dealt with many like this. I'm glad you read what I typed and not what you wanted to have someone type to have a fight. Thank you
    mrussel isn't like that in my experience. I can also see why he interpreted the way he did. 
    Your boos mean nothing to me, for I have seen what makes you cheer



  • Merkin Baller
    Merkin Baller Posts: 12,818
    lastexitlondon said:
    I'm objective and don't believe much I keep an open mind and try to learn as much as possible what I think
     You think or any other person here matters not. All I said was there is an interesting interview and the truth is truth in general. None of us know the truth we only have opinion. 
    We have more than opinions, we have data and studies, some more reputable than others to give us a basis for the truth. 

    For example, it's objectively true that cardiac events were the leading killer of US college age athletes over the last 20 years. 

    Some data may emerge in the coming years showing a spike in such events following the vaccine rollout, but until that data arrives, we have no reason to think vaccines are causing something that's been happening our entire lives. 
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 31,013
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    mrussel1 said:
    lastexitlondon said:
    mrussel1 said:
    lastexitlondon said:
    The truth is the truth regardless 
    Wait a minute... you think it's "the truth" that MRNA alters your DNA?  We've had MRNA for over 20 years.  
    Mate I haven't told you my opinion. I don't play your dumb games. Find another to play with 
    The truth is the truth regardless 

    That's your quote.  And the video is about MRNA introducing foreign DNA and altering your DNA.  So don't give me any cop-out statement about your opinion.  You said it's the truth.  And that's the dumbest fucking thing I've read today. But it's early.  
    I didn't take his 'truth is the truth" as saying tucker's video was the truth, just a general statement that it doesn't matter who says the truth, if it's true it's true. 
    Okay well that's not the truth.  It's bullshit.  No one's DNA is changing.  There is ZERO scientific evidence of that happening and that is empirically provable.  It's not something that's open to debate and NOT opinion.  When MRNA was introduced, all of that was studied.  So some fucknut doctor claiming it to Tucker doesn't make it true.  If it's the TRUTH, then it should be exceptionally easy to prove.  Here is your DNA before the vaccine, and look how it's different after.  WTF.  
  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 40,117
    mrussel1 said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    mrussel1 said:
    lastexitlondon said:
    mrussel1 said:
    lastexitlondon said:
    The truth is the truth regardless 
    Wait a minute... you think it's "the truth" that MRNA alters your DNA?  We've had MRNA for over 20 years.  
    Mate I haven't told you my opinion. I don't play your dumb games. Find another to play with 
    The truth is the truth regardless 

    That's your quote.  And the video is about MRNA introducing foreign DNA and altering your DNA.  So don't give me any cop-out statement about your opinion.  You said it's the truth.  And that's the dumbest fucking thing I've read today. But it's early.  
    I didn't take his 'truth is the truth" as saying tucker's video was the truth, just a general statement that it doesn't matter who says the truth, if it's true it's true. 
    Okay well that's not the truth.  It's bullshit.  No one's DNA is changing.  There is ZERO scientific evidence of that happening and that is empirically provable.  It's not something that's open to debate and NOT opinion.  When MRNA was introduced, all of that was studied.  So some fucknut doctor claiming it to Tucker doesn't make it true.  If it's the TRUTH, then it should be exceptionally easy to prove.  Here is your DNA before the vaccine, and look how it's different after.  WTF.  
    good. now we know. I didn't watch the video. All he was saying was that IF the video content was true, it didn't matter that it was presented by tucker. 
    Your boos mean nothing to me, for I have seen what makes you cheer



  • Merkin Baller
    Merkin Baller Posts: 12,818
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    mrussel1 said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    mrussel1 said:
    lastexitlondon said:
    mrussel1 said:
    lastexitlondon said:
    The truth is the truth regardless 
    Wait a minute... you think it's "the truth" that MRNA alters your DNA?  We've had MRNA for over 20 years.  
    Mate I haven't told you my opinion. I don't play your dumb games. Find another to play with 
    The truth is the truth regardless 

    That's your quote.  And the video is about MRNA introducing foreign DNA and altering your DNA.  So don't give me any cop-out statement about your opinion.  You said it's the truth.  And that's the dumbest fucking thing I've read today. But it's early.  
    I didn't take his 'truth is the truth" as saying tucker's video was the truth, just a general statement that it doesn't matter who says the truth, if it's true it's true. 
    Okay well that's not the truth.  It's bullshit.  No one's DNA is changing.  There is ZERO scientific evidence of that happening and that is empirically provable.  It's not something that's open to debate and NOT opinion.  When MRNA was introduced, all of that was studied.  So some fucknut doctor claiming it to Tucker doesn't make it true.  If it's the TRUTH, then it should be exceptionally easy to prove.  Here is your DNA before the vaccine, and look how it's different after.  WTF.  
    good. now we know. I didn't watch the video. All he was saying was that IF the video content was true, it didn't matter that it was presented by tucker. 
    Not according to Fox News' own attorneys:

    "The "'general tenor' of [tucker carlson's] show should then inform a viewer that [Carlson] is not 'stating actual facts' about the topics he discusses and is instead engaging in 'exaggeration' and 'non-literal commentary.' "

    She wrote: "Fox persuasively argues, that given Mr. Carlson's reputation, any reasonable viewer 'arrive[s] with an appropriate amount of skepticism' about the statement he makes."

    Vyskocil, an appointee of President Trump's, added, "Whether the Court frames Mr. Carlson's statements as 'exaggeration,' 'non-literal commentary,' or simply bloviating for his audience, the conclusion remains the same — the statements are not actionable."

    https://www.npr.org/2020/09/29/917747123/you-literally-cant-believe-the-facts-tucker-carlson-tells-you-so-say-fox-s-lawye


    If Fox News own attorneys testified that tucker has no interest in the truth, why should any of us extend the benefit of the doubt to the people he interviews? It's been established he doesn't operate in good faith. 
  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 40,117
    Merkin Baller said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    mrussel1 said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    mrussel1 said:
    lastexitlondon said:
    mrussel1 said:
    lastexitlondon said:
    The truth is the truth regardless 
    Wait a minute... you think it's "the truth" that MRNA alters your DNA?  We've had MRNA for over 20 years.  
    Mate I haven't told you my opinion. I don't play your dumb games. Find another to play with 
    The truth is the truth regardless 

    That's your quote.  And the video is about MRNA introducing foreign DNA and altering your DNA.  So don't give me any cop-out statement about your opinion.  You said it's the truth.  And that's the dumbest fucking thing I've read today. But it's early.  
    I didn't take his 'truth is the truth" as saying tucker's video was the truth, just a general statement that it doesn't matter who says the truth, if it's true it's true. 
    Okay well that's not the truth.  It's bullshit.  No one's DNA is changing.  There is ZERO scientific evidence of that happening and that is empirically provable.  It's not something that's open to debate and NOT opinion.  When MRNA was introduced, all of that was studied.  So some fucknut doctor claiming it to Tucker doesn't make it true.  If it's the TRUTH, then it should be exceptionally easy to prove.  Here is your DNA before the vaccine, and look how it's different after.  WTF.  
    good. now we know. I didn't watch the video. All he was saying was that IF the video content was true, it didn't matter that it was presented by tucker. 
    Not according to Fox News' own attorneys:

    "The "'general tenor' of [tucker carlson's] show should then inform a viewer that [Carlson] is not 'stating actual facts' about the topics he discusses and is instead engaging in 'exaggeration' and 'non-literal commentary.' "

    She wrote: "Fox persuasively argues, that given Mr. Carlson's reputation, any reasonable viewer 'arrive[s] with an appropriate amount of skepticism' about the statement he makes."

    Vyskocil, an appointee of President Trump's, added, "Whether the Court frames Mr. Carlson's statements as 'exaggeration,' 'non-literal commentary,' or simply bloviating for his audience, the conclusion remains the same — the statements are not actionable."

    https://www.npr.org/2020/09/29/917747123/you-literally-cant-believe-the-facts-tucker-carlson-tells-you-so-say-fox-s-lawye


    If Fox News own attorneys testified that tucker has no interest in the truth, why should any of us extend the benefit of the doubt to the people he interviews? It's been established he doesn't operate in good faith. 
    So if Tucker says on his show that the sun sets in the west, we should regard that as false information?

    I already stated he's full of shit, we all know that, and he we know he has no interest in truth. what I'm saying is, if he ever does happen to speak the truth, it doesn't make it a lie just because he said it. it's still the truth. 
    Your boos mean nothing to me, for I have seen what makes you cheer



  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 40,117
    you guys are running way too far with this particular mischaracterization of what rob said. 
    Your boos mean nothing to me, for I have seen what makes you cheer



  • lastexitlondon
    lastexitlondon Posts: 15,108
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    you guys are running way too far with this particular mischaracterization of what rob said. 
    And this is why the same people rattle around in here. Nobody can speak or discuss without being labelled some kind of anti Vax or nut. It's embarrassing 


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  • Merkin Baller
    Merkin Baller Posts: 12,818
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    Merkin Baller said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    mrussel1 said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    mrussel1 said:
    lastexitlondon said:
    mrussel1 said:
    lastexitlondon said:
    The truth is the truth regardless 
    Wait a minute... you think it's "the truth" that MRNA alters your DNA?  We've had MRNA for over 20 years.  
    Mate I haven't told you my opinion. I don't play your dumb games. Find another to play with 
    The truth is the truth regardless 

    That's your quote.  And the video is about MRNA introducing foreign DNA and altering your DNA.  So don't give me any cop-out statement about your opinion.  You said it's the truth.  And that's the dumbest fucking thing I've read today. But it's early.  
    I didn't take his 'truth is the truth" as saying tucker's video was the truth, just a general statement that it doesn't matter who says the truth, if it's true it's true. 
    Okay well that's not the truth.  It's bullshit.  No one's DNA is changing.  There is ZERO scientific evidence of that happening and that is empirically provable.  It's not something that's open to debate and NOT opinion.  When MRNA was introduced, all of that was studied.  So some fucknut doctor claiming it to Tucker doesn't make it true.  If it's the TRUTH, then it should be exceptionally easy to prove.  Here is your DNA before the vaccine, and look how it's different after.  WTF.  
    good. now we know. I didn't watch the video. All he was saying was that IF the video content was true, it didn't matter that it was presented by tucker. 
    Not according to Fox News' own attorneys:

    "The "'general tenor' of [tucker carlson's] show should then inform a viewer that [Carlson] is not 'stating actual facts' about the topics he discusses and is instead engaging in 'exaggeration' and 'non-literal commentary.' "

    She wrote: "Fox persuasively argues, that given Mr. Carlson's reputation, any reasonable viewer 'arrive[s] with an appropriate amount of skepticism' about the statement he makes."

    Vyskocil, an appointee of President Trump's, added, "Whether the Court frames Mr. Carlson's statements as 'exaggeration,' 'non-literal commentary,' or simply bloviating for his audience, the conclusion remains the same — the statements are not actionable."

    https://www.npr.org/2020/09/29/917747123/you-literally-cant-believe-the-facts-tucker-carlson-tells-you-so-say-fox-s-lawye


    If Fox News own attorneys testified that tucker has no interest in the truth, why should any of us extend the benefit of the doubt to the people he interviews? It's been established he doesn't operate in good faith. 
    So if Tucker says on his show that the sun sets in the west, we should regard that as false information?

    I already stated he's full of shit, we all know that, and he we know he has no interest in truth. what I'm saying is, if he ever does happen to speak the truth, it doesn't make it a lie just because he said it. it's still the truth. 
    Sorry I'm skeptical of a person who has proven repeatedly they deserve skepticism. At this point it would be foolish for anyone NOT to be skeptical of what tucker is bringing to the table, all things considered. 

    lastexitlondon said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    you guys are running way too far with this particular mischaracterization of what rob said. 
    And this is why the same people rattle around in here. Nobody can speak or discuss without being labelled some kind of anti Vax or nut. It's embarrassing 
    It's unfortunate someone misinterpreted your vague comment. Maybe share a link to the video? 
  • lastexitlondon
    lastexitlondon Posts: 15,108
    Again I didn't state anything anyone said as truth . I said it was interesting.  You can find what you like interesting. 


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  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 31,013
    edited February 2024
    lastexitlondon said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    you guys are running way too far with this particular mischaracterization of what rob said. 
    And this is why the same people rattle around in here. Nobody can speak or discuss without being labelled some kind of anti Vax or nut. It's embarrassing 
    What's embarrassing is the lack of critical thinking.  

    A Zombie apocalypse is interesting.  I wouldn't think to have a serious debate about it. 

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