The Official 2024 TOUR Thread

on2legs said:

pjl44 said:

OceanSoul71 said:

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Saw this on FB about posters and how poster artists allegedly get paid:

https://www.webworm.co/p/pearljam?fbclid=IwAR02AT_ofxEpOwSneU_68iiRmnEi13IGqPe7EZ6RER_q6PhAz1U61eePSkw_aem_AfepRKNBwe21CVT_HW3CCh6vl-X1peeAbSdQT65IKNQKdyuWGw78Cdsh1XwcpSHFqlA

This is pretty interesting. I'm not sure I realized the APs were the only form of compensation. While the writer was reaching out to these other artists he should have asked what flat fee is typical for a band of this stature. I need a little context to know whether it's a good deal or not.

If the article was more objective, it might have discussed the exposure the artist gets from having a Pearl Jam poster in their portfolio.  There is a value to that exposure and my guess many artists are pumped to have their artwork promoted by the band.  And I’m not sure how the one artist they managed to talk to only made $3,000 after shipping costs.  100 AP’s at $100 each is $10,000.  Where did the other $7,000 go?

And my biggest take away from the article is… no one is forcing the artist to make the poster.  If the fee structure is not satisfactory then just say no thank you.  

My thoughts exactly, the article was very one sided. They’re basically offering these artists $8,000-$12,000 depending on what they decide to charge ($80-$125 was the suggested range). And they would also charge a shipping fee to the buyer, so i don’t see the mentioned shipping costs taking away from their cut.  For PJ, those artist editions go in a heartbeat, i could see for some other bands it being more of a gamble. It seemed this artist wasn’t familiar with the market for PJ posters, for the money she could make and the exposure, it seems like a no-brainer to me.

Since they're not coming to Belgium or near us I'm thinking of doing London and Berlin back-to-back. First time I'd be going alone. You guys have any tips or tricks on going alone to a PJ concert? 

Leave your smartphone in your pocket for the entire concert and soak up every second with your senses.

Zen23 said:

Leave your smartphone in your pocket for the entire concert and soak up every second with your senses.

I wish.. like some of us remember it used to be

IlianDL7 said:

Since they're not coming to Belgium or near us I'm thinking of doing London and Berlin back-to-back. First time I'd be going alone. You guys have any tips or tricks on going alone to a PJ concert? 

Going solo is great- I’ve met some of my best PJ touring buddies that way. I also fully agree with the comments about leaving your cell phone in your pocket the whole time- soak in the music and enjoy every second of it. IMO, every second you spend recording you’re missing out on what’s actually happening on stage. If you want videos to preserve the show, rest assured there will be tons of other people recording the show and posting their videos on YouTube.  

on2legs said:

pjl44 said:

OceanSoul71 said:

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Saw this on FB about posters and how poster artists allegedly get paid:

https://www.webworm.co/p/pearljam?fbclid=IwAR02AT_ofxEpOwSneU_68iiRmnEi13IGqPe7EZ6RER_q6PhAz1U61eePSkw_aem_AfepRKNBwe21CVT_HW3CCh6vl-X1peeAbSdQT65IKNQKdyuWGw78Cdsh1XwcpSHFqlA

This is pretty interesting. I'm not sure I realized the APs were the only form of compensation. While the writer was reaching out to these other artists he should have asked what flat fee is typical for a band of this stature. I need a little context to know whether it's a good deal or not.

If the article was more objective, it might have discussed the exposure the artist gets from having a Pearl Jam poster in their portfolio.  There is a value to that exposure and my guess many artists are pumped to have their artwork promoted by the band.  And I’m not sure how the one artist they managed to talk to only made $3,000 after shipping costs.  100 AP’s at $100 each is $10,000.  Where did the other $7,000 go?

And my biggest take away from the article is… no one is forcing the artist to make the poster.  If the fee structure is not satisfactory then just say no thank you.  

I'm not a believer in "exposure" as compensation but this might actually be a good deal strictly in terms of dollars. The person quoting 3k is a little suspect because what shipping costs? I always pay shipping as the buyer.

I'd need to know what someone like Phish or Foo Fighters pay. Or whomever. The artist stands to gross 7-10k on a Pearl Jam AP. That seems pretty good to me but who knows.

woolyman said:

Wondering:
assuming the cities and rumoured venues are true… where would the better odds be to getting TC tix do we think between Vancouver and Chicago?

wrigley is double the capacity, but does it have more than double the demand?

I know there are other factors: TC allotment, demand…etc. 

Love going to new places and seeing PJ… deciding between those 2. 

Thoughts?

Since they will likely be part of separate lotto’s, I’d say equal odds. I would expect anyone who puts Van or Chi as 1st priority will get tickets.

darwinstheory said:

BloodMeridian80 said:

woolyman said:

Wondering:
assuming the cities and rumoured venues are true… where would the better odds be to getting TC tix do we think between Vancouver and Chicago?

wrigley is double the capacity, but does it have more than double the demand?

I know there are other factors: TC allotment, demand…etc. 

Love going to new places and seeing PJ… deciding between those 2. 

Thoughts?

Since they will likely be part of separate lotto’s, I’d say equal odds. I would expect anyone who puts Van or Chi as 1st priority will get tickets.

Sounds good in theory, but.... during the 9 (8) show run in September, my fiancé put Chi 1 as her #1 priority. She got shut out. I recall hearing people get Chi 1 with their 4th (and I think even 5th) priority. 

I remember hearing all that as well, obviously there was an error somewhere in the chain. Hope they have the kinks worked out this time 🤞 

pjl44 said:

on2legs said:

pjl44 said:

OceanSoul71 said:

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Saw this on FB about posters and how poster artists allegedly get paid:

https://www.webworm.co/p/pearljam?fbclid=IwAR02AT_ofxEpOwSneU_68iiRmnEi13IGqPe7EZ6RER_q6PhAz1U61eePSkw_aem_AfepRKNBwe21CVT_HW3CCh6vl-X1peeAbSdQT65IKNQKdyuWGw78Cdsh1XwcpSHFqlA

This is pretty interesting. I'm not sure I realized the APs were the only form of compensation. While the writer was reaching out to these other artists he should have asked what flat fee is typical for a band of this stature. I need a little context to know whether it's a good deal or not.

If the article was more objective, it might have discussed the exposure the artist gets from having a Pearl Jam poster in their portfolio.  There is a value to that exposure and my guess many artists are pumped to have their artwork promoted by the band.  And I’m not sure how the one artist they managed to talk to only made $3,000 after shipping costs.  100 AP’s at $100 each is $10,000.  Where did the other $7,000 go?

And my biggest take away from the article is… no one is forcing the artist to make the poster.  If the fee structure is not satisfactory then just say no thank you.  

I'm not a believer in "exposure" as compensation but this might actually be a good deal strictly in terms of dollars. The person quoting 3k is a little suspect because what shipping costs? I always pay shipping as the buyer.

I'd need to know what someone like Phish or Foo Fighters pay. Or whomever. The artist stands to gross 7-10k on a Pearl Jam AP. That seems pretty good to me but who knows.

Most bands do a numbered limited edition for their show posters. For a lot of bands about on the same level with PJ, it's usually a run of around 2k posters per show. Sometimes higher, sometimes lower. But there's a reason PJ has never numbered their show posters. They can just keep printing them out like money.
Just using the most recent Wrigley shows as an example, I'd have to say they sold at least 30,000 posters total for those shows. And that's a conservative estimate. They had multiple merch booths open all day long, for multiple days, with non-stop lines that sometimes lasted as long as 5hrs. I watched truck after truck pull up with stack after stack after stack of posters all day and night. So, say they did only sell 30k posters for those shows. At $40 each, the band made well over a million dollars on posters for those shows, while the people who actually created those posters only made $7-10k. That seems good to you?