The Official 2024 TOUR Thread

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  • Get_Right
    Get_Right Posts: 14,203
    JackD. said:
    just_one said:
    mrk2 said:
    just_one said:
    was thinking about this during lunch break, its not out of the realm of possibility the rest of the tour being announced next friday and tickets sold around next wednesday or thursday.

    gives mad cool a few days to sell tickets
    The idea is to give Mad Cool time to sell tickets without the general public knowing that their headliner has also two shows in Barcelona lined up.
    they also played barcelona before mad cool in 2018 so i cant see that being the reason, only if its because 2 nights that being said , with keane and pearl jam on the same day they will have no problem selling tickets
    Doesn’t matter what happend 2018 if Mad Cool payed them extra to announce their headline shows later. This is not about being kind or „how they want to do this“. It‘s business. And the way it looks PJ changed their way in announcing European tours to a standard that a lot of bands have: Festivals first to being able to ask for extra cash.

    So with Mad Cool starting their general sale on Friday, I am 100% sure, we won‘t see the rest of the tour before Christmas. Mad Cool didn‘t pay for a heads up for their announcement but for an exclusive time frame where they are the only ticket available to see PJ in Spain. And that timeframe only starts on Friday and will at least last week.

    It is standard for most festivals to prevent headliners from playing shows within a certain distance or announcing dates (perhaps within a certain distance or region) until a threshold of ticket sales have been met. The good news for Pearl Jam fans is that there has been a trend for bands to announce dates much further out so they can collect the money way ahead of the shows.  I think that means any announcements will be farther out than they have in the past. Pure speculation though :).
  • RatherStarved
    RatherStarved Posts: 5,831
    JackD. said:
    Frankman77 said:
    RatherStarved said:
    RideRick said:
    Meesmaurice said:
    cloudsnmars said:
    I'm still a bit shocked that Italy may not be on the tour this year.

    Me 2! Or the Netherlands..
    Netherlands will be add.  Always Ziggodome, Always Amsterdam.  No sweat.  Or i will lay down my TenC membership  :D
    Careful what you say you’ll do.  It’s been speculated an insurance settlement prevents shows in summer 2024 in Amsterdam, Vienna and Prague.  
    But what does that mean? A ban from the countries or a ban from the 2022 venues that were cancelled? Because, if it's the latter, than there are other options I'd say. 
    That’s fineprint on the insurance contracts. And it‘s just speculation not based on actual knowledge. There could be a lot of other reasons why they do not honor the postponed shows. But it‘s very likely their are not coming to those cities.
    Confirming I am only speculating.  
    PJ: 2013: London (ON); Buffalo; 2014: Cincinnati; 2016: Sunrise, Miami, Toronto 1-2, Wrigley 2; 2018: London (UK) 1, Milan, Padova, Sea 2, Wrigley 1-2, Fenway 1-2; 2021: SHN, Ohana, Ohana Encore 1-2; 2022: LA 1-2, Phx, Oak 1-2, Fresno, Copenhagen, Hyde Park 1-2; Quebec, Ottawa, Hamilton, Toronto; MSG, Camden, Nashville, Louisville, St. Louis, OKC; 2023: St. Paul 1-2, Chicago 1-2; Fort Worth 2; Austin 1-2; 2024:  Vancouver 1-2, LV 1-2, LA 1-2, Napa, Barcelona 1-2; Indy; Chicago 1-2; MSG 1-2; Philly 2; Boston 2; Ohana 1-2; 2025: FL 1-2, ATL 1-2, Nash 1-2, Pit 1-2.
     
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  • brianpurcell
    brianpurcell Posts: 14
    JackD. said:
    just_one said:
    mrk2 said:
    just_one said:
    was thinking about this during lunch break, its not out of the realm of possibility the rest of the tour being announced next friday and tickets sold around next wednesday or thursday.

    gives mad cool a few days to sell tickets
    The idea is to give Mad Cool time to sell tickets without the general public knowing that their headliner has also two shows in Barcelona lined up.
    they also played barcelona before mad cool in 2018 so i cant see that being the reason, only if its because 2 nights that being said , with keane and pearl jam on the same day they will have no problem selling tickets
    Doesn’t matter what happend 2018 if Mad Cool payed them extra to announce their headline shows later. This is not about being kind or „how they want to do this“. It‘s business. And the way it looks PJ changed their way in announcing European tours to a standard that a lot of bands have: Festivals first to being able to ask for extra cash.

    So with Mad Cool starting their general sale on Friday, I am 100% sure, we won‘t see the rest of the tour before Christmas. Mad Cool didn‘t pay for a heads up for their announcement but for an exclusive time frame where they are the only ticket available to see PJ in Spain. And that timeframe only starts on Friday and will at least last week.

    Only thing mad about this to me is they would be releasing dates/tickets in early January when people are less willing to spend. Its bad enough they left it till so close to Christmas and a lot of other summer shows were announced prior, leaving it later again seems madness. Something tells me a Friday evening announcement (especiallyif Mad Cool day sells out) 10c deadline the Sunday, then General sale be before next Wednesday.
  • damnaxe
    damnaxe Posts: 139
    be patient. I think they will announce the rest of the tour this week. at last next Monday. Festivals are different and they dont just sell out because of PJ. mad cool/nas have a really good line up. if I'd live in Madrid I would go there anyway...
  • DEGBTI
    DEGBTI san diego Posts: 997
    chiefnjk said:
    Rest of European dates tomorrow, all NA dates in Feb?
    It's tomorrow, what time will we get the rest of the Euro dates?
  • OfThePearl
    OfThePearl Posts: 981
    washed in black said:
    TinaE said:
    Jimmi said:
    dimitrispearljam said:
    steven87 said:
    I’m a little surprised 10c hasn’t sent out an email yet about the two festival dates. Makes me think there might be more dates coming soon. 
    I'm a bit  confuced. Cos in my acount not mail sent
    But I got in my sister email acount. About the two festivals



    Nope, haven't received any mails either 🤔
    Me neither.....
    The weird thing is I didn't receive an email at my current 10c email address, but I DID get one at the address I formerly used about 15 years ago. 
    Same here!
  • aisleseats
    aisleseats Posts: 1,628
    damnaxe said:
    be patient. I think they will announce the rest of the tour this week. at last next Monday. Festivals are different and they dont just sell out because of PJ. mad cool/nas have a really good line up. if I'd live in Madrid I would go there anyway...
    Really? Subjective, I guess.
  • mrk2
    mrk2 Finland Posts: 2,093
    2024 seems to be quite bad for Euro festival lineups. There aren't that many major artists available compared to this past summer.

    For example Download lineup is pretty much crap. They had to settle for something like their 20th choices for headliners. Lollapalooza Stockholm announced that they are not happening in 2024. Etc etc
    225xxx - 6/28/00, 10/20/01, 10/22/01, 9/11/06, 9/22/06, 9/23/06, 6/18/07, 6/26/07, 8/15/09, 6/25/10, 6/30/10, 7/4/12, 7/5/12, 7/7/12, 7/10/12, 6/26/14, 6/28/14, 7/3/18, 7/5/18
  • OfThePearl
    OfThePearl Posts: 981
    If the 10 days of Christmas are giving tour hints, it must be just cities, not venues. No way could regular tour shows be at The Showbox.
  • just_one
    just_one Lisbon Posts: 2,304
    Pj day in mad cool with Keane is pretty awesome! Wouldnt mind that in NOS alive
  • Zen23
    Zen23 Posts: 493
    JackD. said:
    Frankman77 said:
    RatherStarved said:
    RideRick said:
    Meesmaurice said:
    cloudsnmars said:
    I'm still a bit shocked that Italy may not be on the tour this year.

    Me 2! Or the Netherlands..
    Netherlands will be add.  Always Ziggodome, Always Amsterdam.  No sweat.  Or i will lay down my TenC membership  :D
    Careful what you say you’ll do.  It’s been speculated an insurance settlement prevents shows in summer 2024 in Amsterdam, Vienna and Prague.  
    But what does that mean? A ban from the countries or a ban from the 2022 venues that were cancelled? Because, if it's the latter, than there are other options I'd say. 
    That’s fineprint on the insurance contracts. And it‘s just speculation not based on actual knowledge. There could be a lot of other reasons why they do not honor the postponed shows. But it‘s very likely their are not coming to those cities.
    Not so long ago, someone here talked about an interview with Pete Townshend. It was supposedly about just such a case, about such a contract or insurance agreement. Does anyone have a source for this? I haven't found anything about it in the depths of the internet.
  • JackD.
    JackD. Posts: 523
    Zen23 said:
    JackD. said:
    Frankman77 said:
    RatherStarved said:
    RideRick said:
    Meesmaurice said:
    cloudsnmars said:
    I'm still a bit shocked that Italy may not be on the tour this year.

    Me 2! Or the Netherlands..
    Netherlands will be add.  Always Ziggodome, Always Amsterdam.  No sweat.  Or i will lay down my TenC membership  :D
    Careful what you say you’ll do.  It’s been speculated an insurance settlement prevents shows in summer 2024 in Amsterdam, Vienna and Prague.  
    But what does that mean? A ban from the countries or a ban from the 2022 venues that were cancelled? Because, if it's the latter, than there are other options I'd say. 
    That’s fineprint on the insurance contracts. And it‘s just speculation not based on actual knowledge. There could be a lot of other reasons why they do not honor the postponed shows. But it‘s very likely their are not coming to those cities.
    Not so long ago, someone here talked about an interview with Pete Townshend. It was supposedly about just such a case, about such a contract or insurance agreement. Does anyone have a source for this? I haven't found anything about it in the depths of the internet.
    That was me and here you go:

    No. It’s not a farewell tour. Apart from anything else, we still have people who have tickets for the U.K. 2019 tour. We’re very, very keen to do that tour and we’ll be doing that tour in 2023. By the way, the reason we weren’t doing that tour in the U.K. now is because our insurers insist that we couldn’t do it because they had to pay out on it. They didn’t want us muddying the waters until 2023.

    https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-features/pete-townshend-who-tour-interview-keith-moon-1296914/amp/
  • Zen23
    Zen23 Posts: 493
    Thank you very much. 
  • The Camaros Hood
    The Camaros Hood Boston, MA Posts: 482
    So the Kraken and Sonics referenced in today’s IG post. I guess it’s Climate Pledge for Seattle dates. 
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  • deb1211
    deb1211 Posts: 2,122
    Side note..Kraken are doing so bad right now. 
  • damnaxe
    damnaxe Posts: 139
    aisleseats said:
    damnaxe said:
    be patient. I think they will announce the rest of the tour this week. at last next Monday. Festivals are different and they dont just sell out because of PJ. mad cool/nas have a really good line up. if I'd live in Madrid I would go there anyway...
    Really? Subjective, I guess.
    of course. just my opinion. and hope 😉
  • Allspread
    Allspread Posts: 33
    Much EU discussion - keep up the good work - but -

    Who has the list of Official Unofficial Rumored USA Pearl Jam Dates(tm) as it stands at present?   I recall seeing it
    but having no luck bringing it back to the front - 


  • JPPJ84
    JPPJ84 Hamburg, Germany Posts: 3,464
    Allspread said:
    Much EU discussion - keep up the good work - but -

    Who has the list of Official Unofficial Rumored USA Pearl Jam Dates(tm) as it stands at present?   I recall seeing it
    but having no luck bringing it back to the front - 


    Check the first page of this thread 
  • tino_11
    tino_11 Posts: 2,192
    Go to the first page of this thread, they’re all listed there
    'F*** the pessimists. F*** 'em.' Eddie Vedder
  • aisleseats
    aisleseats Posts: 1,628
    Allspread said:
    Much EU discussion - keep up the good work - but -

    Who has the list of Official Unofficial Rumored USA Pearl Jam Dates(tm) as it stands at present?   I recall seeing it
    but having no luck bringing it back to the front - 


    You kinda answered your own question. Go back to the first page/post.
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