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Wait. Is Weiss not a US attorney? God damn Garland, you really are a partisan hack. Just follow the rules, they’re not that hard. You could have appointed anyone of a few million attorneys to be the special council but you had to make it even dumber.§ 600.3 Qualifications of the Special Counsel.
(a) An individual named as Special Counsel shall be a lawyer with a reputation for integrity and impartial decisionmaking, and with appropriate experience to ensure both that the investigation will be conducted ably, expeditiously and thoroughly, and that investigative and prosecutorial decisions will be supported by an informed understanding of the criminal law and Department of Justice policies. The Special Counsel shall be selected from outside the United States Government. Special Counsels shall agree that their responsibilities as Special Counsel shall take first precedence in their professional lives, and that it may be necessary to devote their full time to the investigation, depending on its complexity and the stage of the investigation.
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Too bad the repubs in congress didn't get the memo then, eh?RoleModelsinBlood31 said:Wait. Is Weiss not a US attorney? God damn Garland, you really are a partisan hack. Just follow the rules, they’re not that hard. You could have appointed anyone of a few million attorneys to be the special council but you had to make it even dumber.§ 600.3 Qualifications of the Special Counsel.(a) An individual named as Special Counsel shall be a lawyer with a reputation for integrity and impartial decisionmaking, and with appropriate experience to ensure both that the investigation will be conducted ably, expeditiously and thoroughly, and that investigative and prosecutorial decisions will be supported by an informed understanding of the criminal law and Department of Justice policies. The Special Counsel shall be selected from outside the United States Government. Special Counsels shall agree that their responsibilities as Special Counsel shall take first precedence in their professional lives, and that it may be necessary to devote their full time to the investigation, depending on its complexity and the stage of the investigation.
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RoleModelsinBlood31 said:Wait. Is Weiss not a US attorney? God damn Garland, you really are a partisan hack. Just follow the rules, they’re not that hard. You could have appointed anyone of a few million attorneys to be the special council but you had to make it even dumber.§ 600.3 Qualifications of the Special Counsel.
(a) An individual named as Special Counsel shall be a lawyer with a reputation for integrity and impartial decisionmaking, and with appropriate experience to ensure both that the investigation will be conducted ably, expeditiously and thoroughly, and that investigative and prosecutorial decisions will be supported by an informed understanding of the criminal law and Department of Justice policies. The Special Counsel shall be selected from outside the United States Government. Special Counsels shall agree that their responsibilities as Special Counsel shall take first precedence in their professional lives, and that it may be necessary to devote their full time to the investigation, depending on its complexity and the stage of the investigation.
https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/appointment-special-counsel-2Attorney General Merrick B. Garland announced today the appointment of U.S. Attorney David Weiss to serve as Special Counsel for the ongoing investigation and prosecutions referenced and described in United States v. Robert Hunter Biden, as well as for any other matters that arose or may arise from that investigation. Mr. Weiss was nominated by the former president in 2017 and confirmed by the U.S. Senate in 2018. In 2021, he was asked to remain as U.S. Attorney for the District of Delaware, where he led this ongoing investigation. On Tuesday, Aug. 8, Mr. Weiss requested to be appointed as Special Counsel, and today the Attorney General made that appointment.
“On Tuesday of this week, Mr. Weiss advised me that in his judgment, his investigation has reached a stage at which he should continue his work as a Special Counsel, and he asked to be so appointed,” said Attorney General Garland. “Upon considering his request, as well as the extraordinary circumstances relating to this matter, I have concluded it is in the public interest to appoint him as Special Counsel. This appointment confirms my commitment to provide Mr. Weiss all the resources he requests. It also reaffirms that Mr. Weiss has the authority he needs to conduct a thorough investigation and to continue to take the steps he deems appropriate independently, based only on the facts and the law.”
The Attorney General also said, “As Special Counsel, he will continue to have the authority and responsibility that he has exercised previously to oversee the investigation and decide where, when, and whether to file charges. The Special Counsel will not be subject to the day-to-day supervision of any official of the Department, but he must comply with the regulations, procedures, and policies of the Department … Today’s announcement affords the prosecutors, agents, and analysts working on this matter the ability to proceed with their work expeditiously, and to make decisions indisputably guided only by the facts and the law … I am confident that Mr. Weiss will carry out his responsibility in an even-handed and urgent matter, and in accordance with the highest traditions of this Department.”
Updated August 11, 2023
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Get ready for indictment #4 coming this week for mango MussoliniRoleModelsinBlood31 said:Wait. Is Weiss not a US attorney? God damn Garland, you really are a partisan hack. Just follow the rules, they’re not that hard. You could have appointed anyone of a few million attorneys to be the special council but you had to make it even dumber.§ 600.3 Qualifications of the Special Counsel.(a) An individual named as Special Counsel shall be a lawyer with a reputation for integrity and impartial decisionmaking, and with appropriate experience to ensure both that the investigation will be conducted ably, expeditiously and thoroughly, and that investigative and prosecutorial decisions will be supported by an informed understanding of the criminal law and Department of Justice policies. The Special Counsel shall be selected from outside the United States Government. Special Counsels shall agree that their responsibilities as Special Counsel shall take first precedence in their professional lives, and that it may be necessary to devote their full time to the investigation, depending on its complexity and the stage of the investigation.
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How did Bill Barr also miss the memo and become a partisan hack when John Durham was appointed as special counsel?RoleModelsinBlood31 said:Wait. Is Weiss not a US attorney? God damn Garland, you really are a partisan hack. Just follow the rules, they’re not that hard. You could have appointed anyone of a few million attorneys to be the special council but you had to make it even dumber.§ 600.3 Qualifications of the Special Counsel.(a) An individual named as Special Counsel shall be a lawyer with a reputation for integrity and impartial decisionmaking, and with appropriate experience to ensure both that the investigation will be conducted ably, expeditiously and thoroughly, and that investigative and prosecutorial decisions will be supported by an informed understanding of the criminal law and Department of Justice policies. The Special Counsel shall be selected from outside the United States Government. Special Counsels shall agree that their responsibilities as Special Counsel shall take first precedence in their professional lives, and that it may be necessary to devote their full time to the investigation, depending on its complexity and the stage of the investigation.
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RoleModelsinBlood31 said:Wait. Is Weiss not a US attorney? God damn Garland, you really are a partisan hack. Just follow the rules, they’re not that hard. You could have appointed anyone of a few million attorneys to be the special council but you had to make it even dumber.§ 600.3 Qualifications of the Special Counsel.
(a) An individual named as Special Counsel shall be a lawyer with a reputation for integrity and impartial decisionmaking, and with appropriate experience to ensure both that the investigation will be conducted ably, expeditiously and thoroughly, and that investigative and prosecutorial decisions will be supported by an informed understanding of the criminal law and Department of Justice policies. The Special Counsel shall be selected from outside the United States Government. Special Counsels shall agree that their responsibilities as Special Counsel shall take first precedence in their professional lives, and that it may be necessary to devote their full time to the investigation, depending on its complexity and the stage of the investigation.
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Wait, John Durham? What does he look like?mickeyrat said:RoleModelsinBlood31 said:Wait. Is Weiss not a US attorney? God damn Garland, you really are a partisan hack. Just follow the rules, they’re not that hard. You could have appointed anyone of a few million attorneys to be the special council but you had to make it even dumber.§ 600.3 Qualifications of the Special Counsel.(a) An individual named as Special Counsel shall be a lawyer with a reputation for integrity and impartial decisionmaking, and with appropriate experience to ensure both that the investigation will be conducted ably, expeditiously and thoroughly, and that investigative and prosecutorial decisions will be supported by an informed understanding of the criminal law and Department of Justice policies. The Special Counsel shall be selected from outside the United States Government. Special Counsels shall agree that their responsibilities as Special Counsel shall take first precedence in their professional lives, and that it may be necessary to devote their full time to the investigation, depending on its complexity and the stage of the investigation.
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And it’s Bull. Bull Durham.mrussel1 said:
Wait, John Durham? What does he look like?mickeyrat said:RoleModelsinBlood31 said:Wait. Is Weiss not a US attorney? God damn Garland, you really are a partisan hack. Just follow the rules, they’re not that hard. You could have appointed anyone of a few million attorneys to be the special council but you had to make it even dumber.§ 600.3 Qualifications of the Special Counsel.(a) An individual named as Special Counsel shall be a lawyer with a reputation for integrity and impartial decisionmaking, and with appropriate experience to ensure both that the investigation will be conducted ably, expeditiously and thoroughly, and that investigative and prosecutorial decisions will be supported by an informed understanding of the criminal law and Department of Justice policies. The Special Counsel shall be selected from outside the United States Government. Special Counsels shall agree that their responsibilities as Special Counsel shall take first precedence in their professional lives, and that it may be necessary to devote their full time to the investigation, depending on its complexity and the stage of the investigation.
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Here’s what I don’t get. There’s pages and pages on the gun thread of why don’t we have more gun les. Then you come here and those same people laugh at the idea the gun charges against Hunter likely won’t stick.
If someone illegally purchased a gun, even if it’s because they lied, why is that something we should be proud of to overlook?0 -
There’s a lot of different angles to this, for those who are willing to consider them.mace1229 said:Here’s what I don’t get. There’s pages and pages on the gun thread of why don’t we have more gun les. Then you come here and those same people laugh at the idea the gun charges against Hunter likely won’t stick.
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mace1229 said:Here’s what I don’t get. There’s pages and pages on the gun thread of why don’t we have more gun les. Then you come here and those same people laugh at the idea the gun charges against Hunter likely won’t stick.
If someone illegally purchased a gun, even if it’s because they lied, why is that something we should be proud of to overlook?5th circuit struck down the law as unconstitutional that would have been used to prosecute.his gun charge is out._____________________________________SIGNATURE________________________________________________
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If Hunter is guilty of all these crimes he should be held accountable! I don’t think too many here want to overlook anything that is a crime.mace1229 said:Here’s what I don’t get. There’s pages and pages on the gun thread of why don’t we have more gun les. Then you come here and those same people laugh at the idea the gun charges against Hunter likely won’t stick.
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This is why it won't stick. Of course iyou won't hear this on Foxmickeyrat said:mace1229 said:Here’s what I don’t get. There’s pages and pages on the gun thread of why don’t we have more gun les. Then you come here and those same people laugh at the idea the gun charges against Hunter likely won’t stick.
If someone illegally purchased a gun, even if it’s because they lied, why is that something we should be proud of to overlook?5th circuit struck down the law as unconstitutional that would have been used to prosecute.his gun charge is out.0 -
It’s not showing up anymore, not sure why, but the tweet that was shared and many of the comments on it were celebrating it as a blow to the GOP. Some of the comments that followed on here were similar.josevolution said:
If Hunter is guilty of all these crimes he should be held accountable! I don’t think too many here want to overlook anything that is a crime.mace1229 said:Here’s what I don’t get. There’s pages and pages on the gun thread of why don’t we have more gun les. Then you come here and those same people laugh at the idea the gun charges against Hunter likely won’t stick.
If someone illegally purchased a gun, even if it’s because they lied, why is that something we should be proud of to overlook?
Yet, read the guns thread and it’s all about we have too many guns, we need to restrict sales, etc.
Im a gun owner, I’m for more restrictions. I think restricting guns from an illegal substance abuser is a good idea. Sounded like pretty much everyone would agree with that, unless it’s Hunter and can be used as a win against the GOP I guess?
I dont think Hunter needs to be put away in jail for this. But the comments from supposed anti gun crowd and the way they are reacting to laws restricting drug addicts from possessing a gun seems very odd to me. Seems like an easy win for gun control if they wanted it.0 -
And hence why the DOJ, under the criminal mastermind Brandon, are appealing the ruling, which will probably arrive at SCOTUS. And how do you think they’ll rule?mace1229 said:
It’s not showing up anymore, not sure why, but the tweet that was shared and many of the comments on it were celebrating it as a blow to the GOP. Some of the comments that followed on here were similar.josevolution said:
If Hunter is guilty of all these crimes he should be held accountable! I don’t think too many here want to overlook anything that is a crime.mace1229 said:Here’s what I don’t get. There’s pages and pages on the gun thread of why don’t we have more gun les. Then you come here and those same people laugh at the idea the gun charges against Hunter likely won’t stick.
If someone illegally purchased a gun, even if it’s because they lied, why is that something we should be proud of to overlook?
Yet, read the guns thread and it’s all about we have too many guns, we need to restrict sales, etc.
Im a gun owner, I’m for more restrictions. I think restricting guns from an illegal substance abuser is a good idea. Sounded like pretty much everyone would agree with that, unless it’s Hunter and can be used as a win against the GOP I guess?
I dont think Hunter needs to be put away in jail for this. But the comments from supposed anti gun crowd and the way they are reacting to laws restricting drug addicts from possessing a gun seems very odd to me. Seems like an easy win for gun control if they wanted it.
The glee being expressed by some on here, and I’ll only speak for myself, is once again, the hypocrisy of the right and their stance on gun ownership and possession, (who do you think is backing the plaintiff in this and other gun possession by criminals’ cases like domestic abusers) and how they’re hot and heavy for Hunter to pay a price for violating the law, never mind that the law is rarely enforced or even charged, for a myriad of reasons already posted, Hunter pleads guilty and the plea deal falls apart and then the 5th circuit rules so Hunter can’t even be charged until it’s appealed, heard and ruled on. Repubs and cons need to make up their mind on what they’re “for.” Fucking hilarious.
I, for one, and others on here have said that Hunter should face the consequences of his actions, despite being the son of POTUS and that he’s already being treated far differently than the average citizen who breaks the same laws. And it all blew up in their faces. Boo fucking hoo.
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It's the irony Mace... that's what sticks out about this. The same gun registration law that is being used to prosecute Biden has been struck down by a right wing court. You don't see the irony in that? I am for more gun laws, but I can still laugh at the hilarity of the 4 year investigation (started under Trump) turning up 2 charges, one of which will likely be dismissed now.mace1229 said:
It’s not showing up anymore, not sure why, but the tweet that was shared and many of the comments on it were celebrating it as a blow to the GOP. Some of the comments that followed on here were similar.josevolution said:
If Hunter is guilty of all these crimes he should be held accountable! I don’t think too many here want to overlook anything that is a crime.mace1229 said:Here’s what I don’t get. There’s pages and pages on the gun thread of why don’t we have more gun les. Then you come here and those same people laugh at the idea the gun charges against Hunter likely won’t stick.
If someone illegally purchased a gun, even if it’s because they lied, why is that something we should be proud of to overlook?
Yet, read the guns thread and it’s all about we have too many guns, we need to restrict sales, etc.
Im a gun owner, I’m for more restrictions. I think restricting guns from an illegal substance abuser is a good idea. Sounded like pretty much everyone would agree with that, unless it’s Hunter and can be used as a win against the GOP I guess?
I dont think Hunter needs to be put away in jail for this. But the comments from supposed anti gun crowd and the way they are reacting to laws restricting drug addicts from possessing a gun seems very odd to me. Seems like an easy win for gun control if they wanted it.0
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