#46 President Joe Biden
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mace1229 said:
That doesn’t make sense. But I looked it up and you’re right. I don’t know why you’d pardon someone before they are convicted.mrussel1 said:
This is inaccurate. A person may be pardon at any point in the legal process. Investigation, indictment, trail, conviction.mace1229 said:
Maybe. But my point was in response to if Biden was willing to pardon his son he would have already. Not true because for one, there’s nothing to pardon yet. He’s not convicted of anything and his plea didn’t go through. And second, he’s not going to pardon him when he’s not facing jail time anyway. So him not having pardoned Hunter has no bearing.mrussel1 said:
Maybe but if you have multiple charges (he had at least eight), you are far less likely to be able to negotiate down to misdemeanors. He also pled guilty to lying to congress. You start stacking felonies, and the DOJ isn't going to cut you the same deal as if you had far fewer issues (like Hunter).mace1229 said:
Yes, but of all that the one that holds the biggest penalty I believe were the tax charges.mrussel1 said:
Cohen was guilty of campaign finance charges, tax fraud and bank fraud.mace1229 said:
I was being hypothetical. Even if it wasn’t political, and was totally legit, Joe would still pardon him. Do you not think he would? There is just no reason to at this point.Merkin Baller said:
Why would he get 5 years for each tax charge though? Is he a repeat offender? I understand it's the max sentence, but how often are those handed down?mace1229 said:
No. But let’s say they don’t reach a new deal and they decide to charge him with tax evasion instead. And he gets 5 years for each count and ends up serving 10 years for tax evasion? You don’t think Biden would pardon him then? He absolutely would and issue a statement that his son was wrongfully charged and convicted in order to seay the election.Merkin Baller said:
Why? Beyond the fact that it’s his son is there any reason you don’t extend him the benefit of the doubt?mace1229 said:
Wouldnt he have to be convicted or the plea finalized first? Nothing to pardon him for yet.Merkin Baller said:
Because he could have already pardoned him if he wanted to.mace1229 said:
Because no president has ever said no and gone back on it?Merkin Baller said:bIdEn CrImE fAmIlY oMg
I don’t think Joe would pardon Hunter. But him saying he won’t means nothing. I only think he won’t because what’s the point, he wasn’t facing any jail? It’s not worth the bad publicity and probably cost the election.
Imagine Hunter pleading guilty, serving no jail time, then his dad pardons him for something he admitted doing. He basically handed the GOP the election if he does that. And all for nothing if he doesn’t get jail time anyway. So yeah, he’s not going to pardon Hunter.
If he ends up getting the max sentences and jail time, then I wouldn’t be surprised. But that’s not going to happen so he’s not going to get pardoned.You don’t actually believe the ‘Biden crime family’ narrative spun by confirmed liars like Giuliani & trump, do you?
But that wouldn’t happen. He’s not going to serve any jail time so there’s no point in a pardon.
i believe Biden when he said he won’t pardon his son. Not because I actually believe him, but because there will never be a reason to. Like I said before, it would be handing the election to the GOP if he pardoned his son for a crime he plead guilty to and isn’t even serving any time over. And he’d be doing to for almost no personal gain. So of course he’s not going to pardon himZ
I'm in favor of enforcing laws, but I also believe in proportionality... would you not be inclined to think it WAS political if he were to get the max sentence here?
Let's be honest, the pursuit of Hunter is the real witch hunt... you get that, right? After all these years of investigating, this is all they have. The Biden Crime Family narrative is a perfect example of the type of hoax trump is always crying about being a victim of... you understand all this projection about the bidens is just that... projection, right?
And as far as how often that gets charged, I don’t know. But I do remember Richard from season 1 of survivor got 5 years for. It paying taxes on his winnings. So maybe it is common, I don’t know.
And wasn’t that the main charge behind Cohen getting his 3 years in a plea deal? He had multiple charges, but the biggest was tax evasion.
Im not a tax guy so I don’t know the difference between just failure to pay and a misdemeanor charge vs felony tax evasion that others got. But Hunter didn’t claim $3 million, a bigger sum than the Richard guy.
You guys are saying the same thing Mace is playing his role here and Merkinballer is cutting to the logical chase
Im wiling to bet if Hunter was facing legitimate jail time that totaled multiple years he would pardon him. I was just saying if they found some reason to raise the tax charges to felony evasion for a hypothetical argument, I’m not saying they should. I’m sure most presidents would pardon their son they are close to.
But still doesn’t make sense for Joe to pardon Hunter even if he can. He doesn’t know what the outcome will be. If he pardons him now it’s just saying to the world “look, we’re above the law, we know it and I don’t care to show it” and will ruin his election chances. All that for something that is likely not even going to have any jail time. So even if he can, makes no sense for Joe to pardon him at this point.
And Joe won’t pardon him as long as he’s not in jail.
Hunter stops cooperating, they find more income he avoided and didn’t claim, and he gets an actual sentence, I could see it happening then. But that’s not going to happen, just a hypothetical what-if.
Ahem. Richard Nixon pardoned by Gerald Ford. Not convicted. Not charged.
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Doesn’t fit the narrative.mickeyrat said:mace1229 said:
That doesn’t make sense. But I looked it up and you’re right. I don’t know why you’d pardon someone before they are convicted.mrussel1 said:
This is inaccurate. A person may be pardon at any point in the legal process. Investigation, indictment, trail, conviction.mace1229 said:
Maybe. But my point was in response to if Biden was willing to pardon his son he would have already. Not true because for one, there’s nothing to pardon yet. He’s not convicted of anything and his plea didn’t go through. And second, he’s not going to pardon him when he’s not facing jail time anyway. So him not having pardoned Hunter has no bearing.mrussel1 said:
Maybe but if you have multiple charges (he had at least eight), you are far less likely to be able to negotiate down to misdemeanors. He also pled guilty to lying to congress. You start stacking felonies, and the DOJ isn't going to cut you the same deal as if you had far fewer issues (like Hunter).mace1229 said:
Yes, but of all that the one that holds the biggest penalty I believe were the tax charges.mrussel1 said:
Cohen was guilty of campaign finance charges, tax fraud and bank fraud.mace1229 said:
I was being hypothetical. Even if it wasn’t political, and was totally legit, Joe would still pardon him. Do you not think he would? There is just no reason to at this point.Merkin Baller said:
Why would he get 5 years for each tax charge though? Is he a repeat offender? I understand it's the max sentence, but how often are those handed down?mace1229 said:
No. But let’s say they don’t reach a new deal and they decide to charge him with tax evasion instead. And he gets 5 years for each count and ends up serving 10 years for tax evasion? You don’t think Biden would pardon him then? He absolutely would and issue a statement that his son was wrongfully charged and convicted in order to seay the election.Merkin Baller said:
Why? Beyond the fact that it’s his son is there any reason you don’t extend him the benefit of the doubt?mace1229 said:
Wouldnt he have to be convicted or the plea finalized first? Nothing to pardon him for yet.Merkin Baller said:
Because he could have already pardoned him if he wanted to.mace1229 said:
Because no president has ever said no and gone back on it?Merkin Baller said:bIdEn CrImE fAmIlY oMg
I don’t think Joe would pardon Hunter. But him saying he won’t means nothing. I only think he won’t because what’s the point, he wasn’t facing any jail? It’s not worth the bad publicity and probably cost the election.
Imagine Hunter pleading guilty, serving no jail time, then his dad pardons him for something he admitted doing. He basically handed the GOP the election if he does that. And all for nothing if he doesn’t get jail time anyway. So yeah, he’s not going to pardon Hunter.
If he ends up getting the max sentences and jail time, then I wouldn’t be surprised. But that’s not going to happen so he’s not going to get pardoned.You don’t actually believe the ‘Biden crime family’ narrative spun by confirmed liars like Giuliani & trump, do you?
But that wouldn’t happen. He’s not going to serve any jail time so there’s no point in a pardon.
i believe Biden when he said he won’t pardon his son. Not because I actually believe him, but because there will never be a reason to. Like I said before, it would be handing the election to the GOP if he pardoned his son for a crime he plead guilty to and isn’t even serving any time over. And he’d be doing to for almost no personal gain. So of course he’s not going to pardon himZ
I'm in favor of enforcing laws, but I also believe in proportionality... would you not be inclined to think it WAS political if he were to get the max sentence here?
Let's be honest, the pursuit of Hunter is the real witch hunt... you get that, right? After all these years of investigating, this is all they have. The Biden Crime Family narrative is a perfect example of the type of hoax trump is always crying about being a victim of... you understand all this projection about the bidens is just that... projection, right?
And as far as how often that gets charged, I don’t know. But I do remember Richard from season 1 of survivor got 5 years for. It paying taxes on his winnings. So maybe it is common, I don’t know.
And wasn’t that the main charge behind Cohen getting his 3 years in a plea deal? He had multiple charges, but the biggest was tax evasion.
Im not a tax guy so I don’t know the difference between just failure to pay and a misdemeanor charge vs felony tax evasion that others got. But Hunter didn’t claim $3 million, a bigger sum than the Richard guy.
You guys are saying the same thing Mace is playing his role here and Merkinballer is cutting to the logical chase
Im wiling to bet if Hunter was facing legitimate jail time that totaled multiple years he would pardon him. I was just saying if they found some reason to raise the tax charges to felony evasion for a hypothetical argument, I’m not saying they should. I’m sure most presidents would pardon their son they are close to.
But still doesn’t make sense for Joe to pardon Hunter even if he can. He doesn’t know what the outcome will be. If he pardons him now it’s just saying to the world “look, we’re above the law, we know it and I don’t care to show it” and will ruin his election chances. All that for something that is likely not even going to have any jail time. So even if he can, makes no sense for Joe to pardon him at this point.
And Joe won’t pardon him as long as he’s not in jail.
Hunter stops cooperating, they find more income he avoided and didn’t claim, and he gets an actual sentence, I could see it happening then. But that’s not going to happen, just a hypothetical what-if.
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Your reasoning of why Biden won't pardon him is exactly what merkin and the rest of us reasoned from the start. It's pretty straightforward that you take a political liability and make it worse. This is why we think Trump is a corrupt moron. He pardoned his friends and Jred Kushner's father.mace1229 said:
That doesn’t make sense. But I looked it up and you’re right. I don’t know why you’d pardon someone before they are convicted.mrussel1 said:
This is inaccurate. A person may be pardon at any point in the legal process. Investigation, indictment, trail, conviction.mace1229 said:
Maybe. But my point was in response to if Biden was willing to pardon his son he would have already. Not true because for one, there’s nothing to pardon yet. He’s not convicted of anything and his plea didn’t go through. And second, he’s not going to pardon him when he’s not facing jail time anyway. So him not having pardoned Hunter has no bearing.mrussel1 said:
Maybe but if you have multiple charges (he had at least eight), you are far less likely to be able to negotiate down to misdemeanors. He also pled guilty to lying to congress. You start stacking felonies, and the DOJ isn't going to cut you the same deal as if you had far fewer issues (like Hunter).mace1229 said:
Yes, but of all that the one that holds the biggest penalty I believe were the tax charges.mrussel1 said:
Cohen was guilty of campaign finance charges, tax fraud and bank fraud.mace1229 said:
I was being hypothetical. Even if it wasn’t political, and was totally legit, Joe would still pardon him. Do you not think he would? There is just no reason to at this point.Merkin Baller said:
Why would he get 5 years for each tax charge though? Is he a repeat offender? I understand it's the max sentence, but how often are those handed down?mace1229 said:
No. But let’s say they don’t reach a new deal and they decide to charge him with tax evasion instead. And he gets 5 years for each count and ends up serving 10 years for tax evasion? You don’t think Biden would pardon him then? He absolutely would and issue a statement that his son was wrongfully charged and convicted in order to seay the election.Merkin Baller said:
Why? Beyond the fact that it’s his son is there any reason you don’t extend him the benefit of the doubt?mace1229 said:
Wouldnt he have to be convicted or the plea finalized first? Nothing to pardon him for yet.Merkin Baller said:
Because he could have already pardoned him if he wanted to.mace1229 said:
Because no president has ever said no and gone back on it?Merkin Baller said:bIdEn CrImE fAmIlY oMg
I don’t think Joe would pardon Hunter. But him saying he won’t means nothing. I only think he won’t because what’s the point, he wasn’t facing any jail? It’s not worth the bad publicity and probably cost the election.
Imagine Hunter pleading guilty, serving no jail time, then his dad pardons him for something he admitted doing. He basically handed the GOP the election if he does that. And all for nothing if he doesn’t get jail time anyway. So yeah, he’s not going to pardon Hunter.
If he ends up getting the max sentences and jail time, then I wouldn’t be surprised. But that’s not going to happen so he’s not going to get pardoned.You don’t actually believe the ‘Biden crime family’ narrative spun by confirmed liars like Giuliani & trump, do you?
But that wouldn’t happen. He’s not going to serve any jail time so there’s no point in a pardon.
i believe Biden when he said he won’t pardon his son. Not because I actually believe him, but because there will never be a reason to. Like I said before, it would be handing the election to the GOP if he pardoned his son for a crime he plead guilty to and isn’t even serving any time over. And he’d be doing to for almost no personal gain. So of course he’s not going to pardon himZ
I'm in favor of enforcing laws, but I also believe in proportionality... would you not be inclined to think it WAS political if he were to get the max sentence here?
Let's be honest, the pursuit of Hunter is the real witch hunt... you get that, right? After all these years of investigating, this is all they have. The Biden Crime Family narrative is a perfect example of the type of hoax trump is always crying about being a victim of... you understand all this projection about the bidens is just that... projection, right?
And as far as how often that gets charged, I don’t know. But I do remember Richard from season 1 of survivor got 5 years for. It paying taxes on his winnings. So maybe it is common, I don’t know.
And wasn’t that the main charge behind Cohen getting his 3 years in a plea deal? He had multiple charges, but the biggest was tax evasion.
Im not a tax guy so I don’t know the difference between just failure to pay and a misdemeanor charge vs felony tax evasion that others got. But Hunter didn’t claim $3 million, a bigger sum than the Richard guy.
You guys are saying the same thing Mace is playing his role here and Merkinballer is cutting to the logical chase
Im wiling to bet if Hunter was facing legitimate jail time that totaled multiple years he would pardon him. I was just saying if they found some reason to raise the tax charges to felony evasion for a hypothetical argument, I’m not saying they should. I’m sure most presidents would pardon their son they are close to.
But still doesn’t make sense for Joe to pardon Hunter even if he can. He doesn’t know what the outcome will be. If he pardons him now it’s just saying to the world “look, we’re above the law, we know it and I don’t care to show it” and will ruin his election chances. All that for something that is likely not even going to have any jail time. So even if he can, makes no sense for Joe to pardon him at this point.
And Joe won’t pardon him as long as he’s not in jail.
Hunter stops cooperating, they find more income he avoided and didn’t claim, and he gets an actual sentence, I could see it happening then. But that’s not going to happen, just a hypothetical what-if.
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Agreed.mrussel1 said:
Your reasoning of why Biden won't pardon him is exactly what merkin and the rest of us reasoned from the start. It's pretty straightforward that you take a political liability and make it worse. This is why we think Trump is a corrupt moron. He pardoned his friends and Jred Kushner's father.mace1229 said:
That doesn’t make sense. But I looked it up and you’re right. I don’t know why you’d pardon someone before they are convicted.mrussel1 said:
This is inaccurate. A person may be pardon at any point in the legal process. Investigation, indictment, trail, conviction.mace1229 said:
Maybe. But my point was in response to if Biden was willing to pardon his son he would have already. Not true because for one, there’s nothing to pardon yet. He’s not convicted of anything and his plea didn’t go through. And second, he’s not going to pardon him when he’s not facing jail time anyway. So him not having pardoned Hunter has no bearing.mrussel1 said:
Maybe but if you have multiple charges (he had at least eight), you are far less likely to be able to negotiate down to misdemeanors. He also pled guilty to lying to congress. You start stacking felonies, and the DOJ isn't going to cut you the same deal as if you had far fewer issues (like Hunter).mace1229 said:
Yes, but of all that the one that holds the biggest penalty I believe were the tax charges.mrussel1 said:
Cohen was guilty of campaign finance charges, tax fraud and bank fraud.mace1229 said:
I was being hypothetical. Even if it wasn’t political, and was totally legit, Joe would still pardon him. Do you not think he would? There is just no reason to at this point.Merkin Baller said:
Why would he get 5 years for each tax charge though? Is he a repeat offender? I understand it's the max sentence, but how often are those handed down?mace1229 said:
No. But let’s say they don’t reach a new deal and they decide to charge him with tax evasion instead. And he gets 5 years for each count and ends up serving 10 years for tax evasion? You don’t think Biden would pardon him then? He absolutely would and issue a statement that his son was wrongfully charged and convicted in order to seay the election.Merkin Baller said:
Why? Beyond the fact that it’s his son is there any reason you don’t extend him the benefit of the doubt?mace1229 said:
Wouldnt he have to be convicted or the plea finalized first? Nothing to pardon him for yet.Merkin Baller said:
Because he could have already pardoned him if he wanted to.mace1229 said:
Because no president has ever said no and gone back on it?Merkin Baller said:bIdEn CrImE fAmIlY oMg
I don’t think Joe would pardon Hunter. But him saying he won’t means nothing. I only think he won’t because what’s the point, he wasn’t facing any jail? It’s not worth the bad publicity and probably cost the election.
Imagine Hunter pleading guilty, serving no jail time, then his dad pardons him for something he admitted doing. He basically handed the GOP the election if he does that. And all for nothing if he doesn’t get jail time anyway. So yeah, he’s not going to pardon Hunter.
If he ends up getting the max sentences and jail time, then I wouldn’t be surprised. But that’s not going to happen so he’s not going to get pardoned.You don’t actually believe the ‘Biden crime family’ narrative spun by confirmed liars like Giuliani & trump, do you?
But that wouldn’t happen. He’s not going to serve any jail time so there’s no point in a pardon.
i believe Biden when he said he won’t pardon his son. Not because I actually believe him, but because there will never be a reason to. Like I said before, it would be handing the election to the GOP if he pardoned his son for a crime he plead guilty to and isn’t even serving any time over. And he’d be doing to for almost no personal gain. So of course he’s not going to pardon himZ
I'm in favor of enforcing laws, but I also believe in proportionality... would you not be inclined to think it WAS political if he were to get the max sentence here?
Let's be honest, the pursuit of Hunter is the real witch hunt... you get that, right? After all these years of investigating, this is all they have. The Biden Crime Family narrative is a perfect example of the type of hoax trump is always crying about being a victim of... you understand all this projection about the bidens is just that... projection, right?
And as far as how often that gets charged, I don’t know. But I do remember Richard from season 1 of survivor got 5 years for. It paying taxes on his winnings. So maybe it is common, I don’t know.
And wasn’t that the main charge behind Cohen getting his 3 years in a plea deal? He had multiple charges, but the biggest was tax evasion.
Im not a tax guy so I don’t know the difference between just failure to pay and a misdemeanor charge vs felony tax evasion that others got. But Hunter didn’t claim $3 million, a bigger sum than the Richard guy.
You guys are saying the same thing Mace is playing his role here and Merkinballer is cutting to the logical chase
Im wiling to bet if Hunter was facing legitimate jail time that totaled multiple years he would pardon him. I was just saying if they found some reason to raise the tax charges to felony evasion for a hypothetical argument, I’m not saying they should. I’m sure most presidents would pardon their son they are close to.
But still doesn’t make sense for Joe to pardon Hunter even if he can. He doesn’t know what the outcome will be. If he pardons him now it’s just saying to the world “look, we’re above the law, we know it and I don’t care to show it” and will ruin his election chances. All that for something that is likely not even going to have any jail time. So even if he can, makes no sense for Joe to pardon him at this point.
And Joe won’t pardon him as long as he’s not in jail.
Hunter stops cooperating, they find more income he avoided and didn’t claim, and he gets an actual sentence, I could see it happening then. But that’s not going to happen, just a hypothetical what-if.It’s worth mentioning that trump pardoning all those crooks, including Flynn & Bannon did nothing to damage his re-election chances, but Biden pardoning his son would be the end of him. It’s great how that double standard works. The hypocrisy isn’t a bug, it’s a feature. It’s a supremacist mentality.0 -
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Saw this and thought it was funny as I remembered what ol' JB posted just a couple days ago.JB16057 said:The US economy slowed down in June. There are still concerns of a recession. None of this is "winning".
Literally the opposite of what he said is actually happening. The economy picked up steam in April through June, catching people off guard. It's why interest rates have ticked up in the last couple of days despite dovish talk from Powell on Wednesday. Jobless claims came in a lot lower than expected yesterday too.
https://apnews.com/article/economy-gdp-inflation-federal-reserve-jobs-consumers-ce011c5f4330bc29d37939730039d1bbUS economy unexpectedly accelerated to a 2.4% growth rate in April-June quarter despite Fed hikes
1 of 2 |Kubota tractors are stored in Uniontown, Pa., Friday, June 9, 2023. On Thursday, the Commerce Department issues its first of three estimates of how the U.S. economy performed in the second quarter of 2023. (AP Photo/Gene J. Puskar)
2 of 2 |A transport carrying new cars arrives at a Stellantis facility on Monday, July 10, 2023, in Belvidere. Ill. On Thursday, the Commerce Department issues its first of three estimates of how the U.S. economy performed in the second quarter of 2023. (AP Photo/Charles Rex Arbogast)
ShareBY PAUL WISEMANUpdated 4:47 PM EDT, July 27, 2023WASHINGTON (AP) — The U.S. economy surprisingly accelerated to a 2.4% annual growth rate from April through June, showing continued resilience in the face of steadily higher interest rates resulting from the Federal Reserve’s 16-month-long fight to bring down inflation.
Thursday’s estimate from the Commerce Department indicated that the gross domestic product — the economy’s total output of goods and services — picked up from the 2% growth rate in the January-March quarter. Last quarter’s expansion was well above the 1.5% annual rate that economists had forecast.
Driving last quarter’s growth was a burst of business investment. Excluding housing, business spending surged at a 7.7% annual rate, the fastest such pace since early 2022. Companies plowed more money into factories and equipment. Increased spending by state and local
Consumer spending, the heart of the nation’s economy, was also solid last quarter, though it slowed to a 1.6% annual rate from a robust 4.2% pace in the first quarter of the year.
Investment in housing, though, fell, weakened by the weight of higher mortgage rates.
“This is a strong report, confirming that this economy continues to largely shrug off the Fed’s aggressive rate increases and tightening credit conditions,’’ said Olu Sonola, head of U.S. economics at Fitch Ratings. “The bottom line is that the U.S. economy is still growing above trend, and the Fed will be wondering if they need to do more to slow this economy.”
In fighting inflation, which last year hit a four-decade high, the Fed has raised its benchmark rate 11 times since March 2022, most recently on Wednesday. The resulting higher costs for a broad range of loans — from mortgages and credit cards to auto loans and business borrowing — have taken a toll on growth.
Still, they have yet to tip the United States into a widely forecast recession. Optimism has been growing that a recession isn’t coming after all, that the Fed can engineer a so-called “soft-landing” — slowing the economy enough to bring inflation down to its 2% annual target without wrecking an expansion of surprising durability.
This week, the International Monetary Fund upgraded its forecast for U.S. economic growth for all of 2023 to 1.8%. Though that would be down from 2.1% growth for 2022, it marked an increase from the 1.6% growth that the IMF had predicted for 2023 back in April.
At a news conference Wednesday after the Fed announced its latest quarter-point rate hike, Chair Jerome Powell revealed that the central bank’s staff economists no longer foresee a recession in the United States. In April, the minutes of the central bank’s March meeting had revealed that the Fed’s staff economists envisioned a “mild” recession later this year.
In his remarks, Powell noted that the economy has proved resilient despite the Fed’s rapid rate hikes. And he said he still thinks a soft landing remains possible.
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By any measure, the American job market has shown itself to be remarkably strong. At 3.6% in June, the unemployment rate hovers just above a five-decade low. A surge in retirements after COVID-19 hit in early 2020 has contributed to a shortage of workers across the country, forcing many companies to raise wages to attract or keep staffers.
Higher pay and job security are giving Americans the confidence and financial wherewithal to keep shopping. Indeed, consumer spending, which drives about 70% of economic activity, rose at a 4.2% annual rate from January through March, the fastest quarterly pace in nearly two years. Americans have kept spending — crowding airplanes, traveling overseas and flocking to concerts and movie theaters.
And the Conference Board, a business research group, reported Tuesday that Americans this month are in their sunniest mood in two years, based on the board’s reading of consumer confidence.
Indeed, many consumers are finally enjoying some relief from spiking prices: Year-over-year inflation, which peaked at 9.1% in June 2022, has eased consistently ever since. Inflation-adjusted hourly pay rose 1.4% in June from a year earlier, the sharpest such gain since early 2021.
“Inflation is easing, moving in the right direction,” said Rubeela Farooqi, chief U.S. economist at High Frequency Economics. ”In other words, the Fed is achieving what it wants without causing damage to the economy, so they don’t need to push too hard from this point on.’'
Still, Farooqi suggested, the surprisingly healthy GDP report makes it somewhat more likely that the Fed will raise rates again because the economy appears to be “much stronger’’ than what the central bank would like to see. With stronger growth comes a greater likelihood of high inflation.
But Thursday’s GDP report contained some encouraging news for the Fed’s inflation fighters: One measure of prices — the personal consumption expenditures index — rose at a 2.6% annual rate last quarter, down from a 4.1% pace in the January-March quarter, to the lowest level since the end of 2020.
Though that is still above the Fed’s 2% inflation target, it amounts to “another welcome sign of disinflation,” said Mike Fratantoni, chief economist at the Mortgage Bankers Association.
The Biden White House’s Council of Economic Advisers estimated Thursday that investment in factories and other manufacturing facilities added 0.4 percentage point of growth last quarter, the largest such proportion since 1981. President Joe Biden pushed the Inflation Reduction Act and the CHIPS Act last year to encourage domestic manufacturing. Michael Feroli, chief U.S. economist at JP Morgan Chase, agreed that much of last quarter’s uptick in business investment was “likely in response to recent federal incentives.’’
“This progress wasn’t inevitable or accidental,’’ the president said in a statement. “It is Bidenomics in action.’’
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The risk remains that the weight of ever-higher interest rates will eventually slow borrowing so much — for homes, cars, renovations, business expansions and other costly expenses — as to pull the economy into recession.
Among the economy’s weakest links has been the housing market. In June, sales of previously occupied homes sank to their slowest pace since January. The problem is that a near-historic low number of homes for sale and higher mortgage rates kept many would-be homebuyers on the sidelines. Sales fell 19% compared with June 2022 and were down 23% through the first half of the year.
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gift article....Biden publicly acknowledges 4-year-old granddaughter
By Meryl Kornfield
July 28, 2023 at 20:43 ET
President Biden acknowledged his 4-year-old granddaughter on Friday, offering his first public comment about Navy Joan Roberts several weeks after her mother, Lunden Roberts, and the president’s son Hunter Biden reached a child support agreement in an Arkansas court.
Biden’s statement, which was first provided to People, came after a long-running paternity and child support dispute prompted criticism that the president had not acknowledged or welcomed his seventh grandchild. Hunter Biden, who denied paternity until it was established after a DNA test, reached a deal with Lunden Roberts a month ago to reduce his $20,000-a-month child support payments and provide some of his paintings to the young girl.
Critics of the president had noted that while he had spoken about his relationship with his six other grandchildren, he had generally failed to mention Navy Roberts when discussing his family. Earlier this month, following a story about the granddaughter, New York Times columnist Maureen Dowd penned a column criticizing the Biden family for not embracing his granddaughter.
In Friday’s statement, coming shortly before he headed off to vacation, the president suggested that the family is trying to create the best atmosphere for his seventh grandchild.
“Our son Hunter and Navy’s mother, Lunden, are working together to foster a relationship that is in the best interests of their daughter, preserving her privacy as much as possible going forward,” Biden said. “This is not a political issue, it’s a family matter. Jill and I only want what is best for all of our grandchildren, including Navy.”continues....
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you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
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Oh dear god what will they complain about now. A father staying silent during his Childs court drama and then making a graceful statement after the end of the dispute. What a lowlife!mickeyrat said:gift article....Biden publicly acknowledges 4-year-old granddaughter
By Meryl Kornfield
July 28, 2023 at 20:43 ET
President Biden acknowledged his 4-year-old granddaughter on Friday, offering his first public comment about Navy Joan Roberts several weeks after her mother, Lunden Roberts, and the president’s son Hunter Biden reached a child support agreement in an Arkansas court.
Biden’s statement, which was first provided to People, came after a long-running paternity and child support dispute prompted criticism that the president had not acknowledged or welcomed his seventh grandchild. Hunter Biden, who denied paternity until it was established after a DNA test, reached a deal with Lunden Roberts a month ago to reduce his $20,000-a-month child support payments and provide some of his paintings to the young girl.
Critics of the president had noted that while he had spoken about his relationship with his six other grandchildren, he had generally failed to mention Navy Roberts when discussing his family. Earlier this month, following a story about the granddaughter, New York Times columnist Maureen Dowd penned a column criticizing the Biden family for not embracing his granddaughter.
In Friday’s statement, coming shortly before he headed off to vacation, the president suggested that the family is trying to create the best atmosphere for his seventh grandchild.
“Our son Hunter and Navy’s mother, Lunden, are working together to foster a relationship that is in the best interests of their daughter, preserving her privacy as much as possible going forward,” Biden said. “This is not a political issue, it’s a family matter. Jill and I only want what is best for all of our grandchildren, including Navy.”continues....Scio me nihil scire
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Hunter's laptop.static111 said:
Oh dear god what will they complain about now. A father staying silent during his Childs court drama and then making a graceful statement after the end of the dispute. What a lowlife!mickeyrat said:gift article....Biden publicly acknowledges 4-year-old granddaughter
By Meryl Kornfield
July 28, 2023 at 20:43 ET
President Biden acknowledged his 4-year-old granddaughter on Friday, offering his first public comment about Navy Joan Roberts several weeks after her mother, Lunden Roberts, and the president’s son Hunter Biden reached a child support agreement in an Arkansas court.
Biden’s statement, which was first provided to People, came after a long-running paternity and child support dispute prompted criticism that the president had not acknowledged or welcomed his seventh grandchild. Hunter Biden, who denied paternity until it was established after a DNA test, reached a deal with Lunden Roberts a month ago to reduce his $20,000-a-month child support payments and provide some of his paintings to the young girl.
Critics of the president had noted that while he had spoken about his relationship with his six other grandchildren, he had generally failed to mention Navy Roberts when discussing his family. Earlier this month, following a story about the granddaughter, New York Times columnist Maureen Dowd penned a column criticizing the Biden family for not embracing his granddaughter.
In Friday’s statement, coming shortly before he headed off to vacation, the president suggested that the family is trying to create the best atmosphere for his seventh grandchild.
“Our son Hunter and Navy’s mother, Lunden, are working together to foster a relationship that is in the best interests of their daughter, preserving her privacy as much as possible going forward,” Biden said. “This is not a political issue, it’s a family matter. Jill and I only want what is best for all of our grandchildren, including Navy.”continues....09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;
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Hunter is clearly a piece of shit. Unsure how much of that is due to Joe...might be none or hardly any at all. Getting after Joe for the shit his adult son is up to is certainly not cool. But damn, how did Hunter get the way he is????static111 said:
Oh dear god what will they complain about now. A father staying silent during his Childs court drama and then making a graceful statement after the end of the dispute. What a lowlife!mickeyrat said:gift article....Biden publicly acknowledges 4-year-old granddaughter
By Meryl Kornfield
July 28, 2023 at 20:43 ET
President Biden acknowledged his 4-year-old granddaughter on Friday, offering his first public comment about Navy Joan Roberts several weeks after her mother, Lunden Roberts, and the president’s son Hunter Biden reached a child support agreement in an Arkansas court.
Biden’s statement, which was first provided to People, came after a long-running paternity and child support dispute prompted criticism that the president had not acknowledged or welcomed his seventh grandchild. Hunter Biden, who denied paternity until it was established after a DNA test, reached a deal with Lunden Roberts a month ago to reduce his $20,000-a-month child support payments and provide some of his paintings to the young girl.
Critics of the president had noted that while he had spoken about his relationship with his six other grandchildren, he had generally failed to mention Navy Roberts when discussing his family. Earlier this month, following a story about the granddaughter, New York Times columnist Maureen Dowd penned a column criticizing the Biden family for not embracing his granddaughter.
In Friday’s statement, coming shortly before he headed off to vacation, the president suggested that the family is trying to create the best atmosphere for his seventh grandchild.
“Our son Hunter and Navy’s mother, Lunden, are working together to foster a relationship that is in the best interests of their daughter, preserving her privacy as much as possible going forward,” Biden said. “This is not a political issue, it’s a family matter. Jill and I only want what is best for all of our grandchildren, including Navy.”continues....hippiemom = goodness0 -
My wife has a theory that most families have a "throw away kid". The one that you can't explain what happened. How many A+ people do you know have POS parents? Plenty, in my experience. So it cuts both ways.cincybearcat said:
Hunter is clearly a piece of shit. Unsure how much of that is due to Joe...might be none or hardly any at all. Getting after Joe for the shit his adult son is up to is certainly not cool. But damn, how did Hunter get the way he is????static111 said:
Oh dear god what will they complain about now. A father staying silent during his Childs court drama and then making a graceful statement after the end of the dispute. What a lowlife!mickeyrat said:gift article....Biden publicly acknowledges 4-year-old granddaughter
By Meryl Kornfield
July 28, 2023 at 20:43 ET
President Biden acknowledged his 4-year-old granddaughter on Friday, offering his first public comment about Navy Joan Roberts several weeks after her mother, Lunden Roberts, and the president’s son Hunter Biden reached a child support agreement in an Arkansas court.
Biden’s statement, which was first provided to People, came after a long-running paternity and child support dispute prompted criticism that the president had not acknowledged or welcomed his seventh grandchild. Hunter Biden, who denied paternity until it was established after a DNA test, reached a deal with Lunden Roberts a month ago to reduce his $20,000-a-month child support payments and provide some of his paintings to the young girl.
Critics of the president had noted that while he had spoken about his relationship with his six other grandchildren, he had generally failed to mention Navy Roberts when discussing his family. Earlier this month, following a story about the granddaughter, New York Times columnist Maureen Dowd penned a column criticizing the Biden family for not embracing his granddaughter.
In Friday’s statement, coming shortly before he headed off to vacation, the president suggested that the family is trying to create the best atmosphere for his seventh grandchild.
“Our son Hunter and Navy’s mother, Lunden, are working together to foster a relationship that is in the best interests of their daughter, preserving her privacy as much as possible going forward,” Biden said. “This is not a political issue, it’s a family matter. Jill and I only want what is best for all of our grandchildren, including Navy.”continues....0 -
cincybearcat said:
Hunter is clearly a piece of shit. Unsure how much of that is due to Joe...might be none or hardly any at all. Getting after Joe for the shit his adult son is up to is certainly not cool. But damn, how did Hunter get the way he is????static111 said:
Oh dear god what will they complain about now. A father staying silent during his Childs court drama and then making a graceful statement after the end of the dispute. What a lowlife!mickeyrat said:gift article....Biden publicly acknowledges 4-year-old granddaughter
By Meryl Kornfield
July 28, 2023 at 20:43 ET
President Biden acknowledged his 4-year-old granddaughter on Friday, offering his first public comment about Navy Joan Roberts several weeks after her mother, Lunden Roberts, and the president’s son Hunter Biden reached a child support agreement in an Arkansas court.
Biden’s statement, which was first provided to People, came after a long-running paternity and child support dispute prompted criticism that the president had not acknowledged or welcomed his seventh grandchild. Hunter Biden, who denied paternity until it was established after a DNA test, reached a deal with Lunden Roberts a month ago to reduce his $20,000-a-month child support payments and provide some of his paintings to the young girl.
Critics of the president had noted that while he had spoken about his relationship with his six other grandchildren, he had generally failed to mention Navy Roberts when discussing his family. Earlier this month, following a story about the granddaughter, New York Times columnist Maureen Dowd penned a column criticizing the Biden family for not embracing his granddaughter.
In Friday’s statement, coming shortly before he headed off to vacation, the president suggested that the family is trying to create the best atmosphere for his seventh grandchild.
“Our son Hunter and Navy’s mother, Lunden, are working together to foster a relationship that is in the best interests of their daughter, preserving her privacy as much as possible going forward,” Biden said. “This is not a political issue, it’s a family matter. Jill and I only want what is best for all of our grandchildren, including Navy.”continues....
Since he's not involved the administration... why does it matter?
He's been scrutinized way more than Ivanka or Jared, and they actually had roles in trump's administration...
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I wouldn't say he's a piece of shit. I'd say he's a troubled person with addiction issues.cincybearcat said:
Hunter is clearly a piece of shit. Unsure how much of that is due to Joe...might be none or hardly any at all. Getting after Joe for the shit his adult son is up to is certainly not cool. But damn, how did Hunter get the way he is????static111 said:
Oh dear god what will they complain about now. A father staying silent during his Childs court drama and then making a graceful statement after the end of the dispute. What a lowlife!mickeyrat said:gift article....Biden publicly acknowledges 4-year-old granddaughter
By Meryl Kornfield
July 28, 2023 at 20:43 ET
President Biden acknowledged his 4-year-old granddaughter on Friday, offering his first public comment about Navy Joan Roberts several weeks after her mother, Lunden Roberts, and the president’s son Hunter Biden reached a child support agreement in an Arkansas court.
Biden’s statement, which was first provided to People, came after a long-running paternity and child support dispute prompted criticism that the president had not acknowledged or welcomed his seventh grandchild. Hunter Biden, who denied paternity until it was established after a DNA test, reached a deal with Lunden Roberts a month ago to reduce his $20,000-a-month child support payments and provide some of his paintings to the young girl.
Critics of the president had noted that while he had spoken about his relationship with his six other grandchildren, he had generally failed to mention Navy Roberts when discussing his family. Earlier this month, following a story about the granddaughter, New York Times columnist Maureen Dowd penned a column criticizing the Biden family for not embracing his granddaughter.
In Friday’s statement, coming shortly before he headed off to vacation, the president suggested that the family is trying to create the best atmosphere for his seventh grandchild.
“Our son Hunter and Navy’s mother, Lunden, are working together to foster a relationship that is in the best interests of their daughter, preserving her privacy as much as possible going forward,” Biden said. “This is not a political issue, it’s a family matter. Jill and I only want what is best for all of our grandchildren, including Navy.”continues....By The Time They Figure Out What Went Wrong, We'll Be Sitting On A Beach, Earning Twenty Percent.0 -
He's a worthless piece of shit with addiciton issues.HughFreakingDillon said:
I wouldn't say he's a piece of shit. I'd say he's a troubled person with addiction issues.cincybearcat said:
Hunter is clearly a piece of shit. Unsure how much of that is due to Joe...might be none or hardly any at all. Getting after Joe for the shit his adult son is up to is certainly not cool. But damn, how did Hunter get the way he is????static111 said:
Oh dear god what will they complain about now. A father staying silent during his Childs court drama and then making a graceful statement after the end of the dispute. What a lowlife!mickeyrat said:gift article....Biden publicly acknowledges 4-year-old granddaughter
By Meryl Kornfield
July 28, 2023 at 20:43 ET
President Biden acknowledged his 4-year-old granddaughter on Friday, offering his first public comment about Navy Joan Roberts several weeks after her mother, Lunden Roberts, and the president’s son Hunter Biden reached a child support agreement in an Arkansas court.
Biden’s statement, which was first provided to People, came after a long-running paternity and child support dispute prompted criticism that the president had not acknowledged or welcomed his seventh grandchild. Hunter Biden, who denied paternity until it was established after a DNA test, reached a deal with Lunden Roberts a month ago to reduce his $20,000-a-month child support payments and provide some of his paintings to the young girl.
Critics of the president had noted that while he had spoken about his relationship with his six other grandchildren, he had generally failed to mention Navy Roberts when discussing his family. Earlier this month, following a story about the granddaughter, New York Times columnist Maureen Dowd penned a column criticizing the Biden family for not embracing his granddaughter.
In Friday’s statement, coming shortly before he headed off to vacation, the president suggested that the family is trying to create the best atmosphere for his seventh grandchild.
“Our son Hunter and Navy’s mother, Lunden, are working together to foster a relationship that is in the best interests of their daughter, preserving her privacy as much as possible going forward,” Biden said. “This is not a political issue, it’s a family matter. Jill and I only want what is best for all of our grandchildren, including Navy.”continues....
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now do all of trump's kids.JB16057 said:
He's a worthless piece of shit with addiciton issues.HughFreakingDillon said:
I wouldn't say he's a piece of shit. I'd say he's a troubled person with addiction issues.cincybearcat said:
Hunter is clearly a piece of shit. Unsure how much of that is due to Joe...might be none or hardly any at all. Getting after Joe for the shit his adult son is up to is certainly not cool. But damn, how did Hunter get the way he is????static111 said:
Oh dear god what will they complain about now. A father staying silent during his Childs court drama and then making a graceful statement after the end of the dispute. What a lowlife!mickeyrat said:gift article....Biden publicly acknowledges 4-year-old granddaughter
By Meryl Kornfield
July 28, 2023 at 20:43 ET
President Biden acknowledged his 4-year-old granddaughter on Friday, offering his first public comment about Navy Joan Roberts several weeks after her mother, Lunden Roberts, and the president’s son Hunter Biden reached a child support agreement in an Arkansas court.
Biden’s statement, which was first provided to People, came after a long-running paternity and child support dispute prompted criticism that the president had not acknowledged or welcomed his seventh grandchild. Hunter Biden, who denied paternity until it was established after a DNA test, reached a deal with Lunden Roberts a month ago to reduce his $20,000-a-month child support payments and provide some of his paintings to the young girl.
Critics of the president had noted that while he had spoken about his relationship with his six other grandchildren, he had generally failed to mention Navy Roberts when discussing his family. Earlier this month, following a story about the granddaughter, New York Times columnist Maureen Dowd penned a column criticizing the Biden family for not embracing his granddaughter.
In Friday’s statement, coming shortly before he headed off to vacation, the president suggested that the family is trying to create the best atmosphere for his seventh grandchild.
“Our son Hunter and Navy’s mother, Lunden, are working together to foster a relationship that is in the best interests of their daughter, preserving her privacy as much as possible going forward,” Biden said. “This is not a political issue, it’s a family matter. Jill and I only want what is best for all of our grandchildren, including Navy.”continues...."You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
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Spoiled shits but at least they can hold on to their personal laptops and keep their personal issues quiet.gimmesometruth27 said:
now do all of trump's kids.JB16057 said:
He's a worthless piece of shit with addiciton issues.HughFreakingDillon said:
I wouldn't say he's a piece of shit. I'd say he's a troubled person with addiction issues.cincybearcat said:
Hunter is clearly a piece of shit. Unsure how much of that is due to Joe...might be none or hardly any at all. Getting after Joe for the shit his adult son is up to is certainly not cool. But damn, how did Hunter get the way he is????static111 said:
Oh dear god what will they complain about now. A father staying silent during his Childs court drama and then making a graceful statement after the end of the dispute. What a lowlife!mickeyrat said:gift article....Biden publicly acknowledges 4-year-old granddaughter
By Meryl Kornfield
July 28, 2023 at 20:43 ET
President Biden acknowledged his 4-year-old granddaughter on Friday, offering his first public comment about Navy Joan Roberts several weeks after her mother, Lunden Roberts, and the president’s son Hunter Biden reached a child support agreement in an Arkansas court.
Biden’s statement, which was first provided to People, came after a long-running paternity and child support dispute prompted criticism that the president had not acknowledged or welcomed his seventh grandchild. Hunter Biden, who denied paternity until it was established after a DNA test, reached a deal with Lunden Roberts a month ago to reduce his $20,000-a-month child support payments and provide some of his paintings to the young girl.
Critics of the president had noted that while he had spoken about his relationship with his six other grandchildren, he had generally failed to mention Navy Roberts when discussing his family. Earlier this month, following a story about the granddaughter, New York Times columnist Maureen Dowd penned a column criticizing the Biden family for not embracing his granddaughter.
In Friday’s statement, coming shortly before he headed off to vacation, the president suggested that the family is trying to create the best atmosphere for his seventh grandchild.
“Our son Hunter and Navy’s mother, Lunden, are working together to foster a relationship that is in the best interests of their daughter, preserving her privacy as much as possible going forward,” Biden said. “This is not a political issue, it’s a family matter. Jill and I only want what is best for all of our grandchildren, including Navy.”continues....
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