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They tried to extort Zelensky into announcing an investigation into the Bidens as well. TFG was literally impeached over it.mrussel1 said:Here's what I know..
The Republican AG and Republican FBI director opened a case against the son of the president's likely political opponent in the next election. That was done two full years before the election and as of the election, no charges were filed. Yet they kept the probe open. Why?The only reason I can think of was to damage Joe Biden politically. Do all private citizens get some special prosecutor assigned to them? Does it always take two years to investigate a tax issue and gun permit? I don't think so. It's clear to me that Trump and the Republicans have weaponized the justice system.
If people don't see this for the blatant scam that it is, they're willfully ignorant or just plain dumb.0 -
That's exactly right. And who knows what happened with this laptop. Guiliani, a disbarred, admitted liar had custody of it.Merkin Baller said:
They tried to extort Zelensky into announcing an investigation into the Bidens as well. TFG was literally impeached over it.mrussel1 said:Here's what I know..
The Republican AG and Republican FBI director opened a case against the son of the president's likely political opponent in the next election. That was done two full years before the election and as of the election, no charges were filed. Yet they kept the probe open. Why?The only reason I can think of was to damage Joe Biden politically. Do all private citizens get some special prosecutor assigned to them? Does it always take two years to investigate a tax issue and gun permit? I don't think so. It's clear to me that Trump and the Republicans have weaponized the justice system.
If people don't see this for the blatant scam that it is, they're willfully ignorant or just plain dumb.0 -
A "like" feature in here is way overdue.mrussel1 said:Here's what I know..
The Republican AG and Republican FBI director opened a case against the son of the president's likely political opponent in the next election. That was done two full years before the election and as of the election, no charges were filed. Yet they kept the probe open. Why?The only reason I can think of was to damage Joe Biden politically. Do all private citizens get some special prosecutor assigned to them? Does it always take two years to investigate a tax issue and gun permit? I don't think so. It's clear to me that Trump and the Republicans have weaponized the justice system.
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gas is not more expensive than ever. i paid $3.29 a gallon yesterday. I remember when it was $5.39 here a few years ago.JB16057 said:
Welp groceries and fuel are still more expensive than ever and many families are struggling. The economy is not great for everyone.Jearlpam0925 said:Welp the Fed comes out and now forecasts no recession. What a terrible economy we're living in..."You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."0 -
If anything gas should be twice it is if we actually cared about "open markets", at the very least.0
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Yes. We’re just creating higher lows. Like MB said, that’s capitalism.gimmesometruth27 said:
gas is not more expensive than ever. i paid $3.29 a gallon yesterday. I remember when it was $5.39 here a few years ago.JB16057 said:
Welp groceries and fuel are still more expensive than ever and many families are struggling. The economy is not great for everyone.Jearlpam0925 said:Welp the Fed comes out and now forecasts no recession. What a terrible economy we're living in...0 -
I say things but without a modicum of what it means.nicknyr15 said:
Yes. We’re just creating higher lows. Like MB said, that’s capitalism.gimmesometruth27 said:
gas is not more expensive than ever. i paid $3.29 a gallon yesterday. I remember when it was $5.39 here a few years ago.JB16057 said:
Welp groceries and fuel are still more expensive than ever and many families are struggling. The economy is not great for everyone.Jearlpam0925 said:Welp the Fed comes out and now forecasts no recession. What a terrible economy we're living in...
Let's just ignore wage growth outpacing inflation and all.0 -
Because no president has ever said no and gone back on it?Merkin Baller said:bIdEn CrImE fAmIlY oMg
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Because he could have already pardoned him if he wanted to.mace1229 said:
Because no president has ever said no and gone back on it?Merkin Baller said:bIdEn CrImE fAmIlY oMg 0 -
Yes, this. Or he could have killed the special counsel.Merkin Baller said:
Because he could have already pardoned him if he wanted to.mace1229 said:
Because no president has ever said no and gone back on it?Merkin Baller said:bIdEn CrImE fAmIlY oMg 0 -
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Yes, this. Or he could have killed the special counsel.Merkin Baller said:
Because he could have already pardoned him if he wanted to.mace1229 said:
Because no president has ever said no and gone back on it?Merkin Baller said:bIdEn CrImE fAmIlY oMg
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The same way tfg pardoned all of his co-conspirators, but sure. The Bidens are the REAL criminals.Merkin Baller said:
Because he could have already pardoned him if he wanted to.mace1229 said:
Because no president has ever said no and gone back on it?Merkin Baller said:bIdEn CrImE fAmIlY oMg JFC0 -
Wouldnt he have to be convicted or the plea finalized first? Nothing to pardon him for yet.Merkin Baller said:
Because he could have already pardoned him if he wanted to.mace1229 said:
Because no president has ever said no and gone back on it?Merkin Baller said:bIdEn CrImE fAmIlY oMg
I don’t think Joe would pardon Hunter. But him saying he won’t means nothing. I only think he won’t because what’s the point, he wasn’t facing any jail? It’s not worth the bad publicity and probably cost the election.
Imagine Hunter pleading guilty, serving no jail time, then his dad pardons him for something he admitted doing. He basically handed the GOP the election if he does that. And all for nothing if he doesn’t get jail time anyway. So yeah, he’s not going to pardon Hunter.
If he ends up getting the max sentences and jail time, then I wouldn’t be surprised. But that’s not going to happen so he’s not going to get pardoned.Post edited by mace1229 on0 -
Why? Beyond the fact that it’s his son is there any reason you don’t extend him the benefit of the doubt?mace1229 said:
Wouldnt he have to be convicted or the plea finalized first? Nothing to pardon him for yet.Merkin Baller said:
Because he could have already pardoned him if he wanted to.mace1229 said:
Because no president has ever said no and gone back on it?Merkin Baller said:bIdEn CrImE fAmIlY oMg
I don’t think Joe would pardon Hunter. But him saying he won’t means nothing. I only think he won’t because what’s the point, he wasn’t facing any jail? It’s not worth the bad publicity and probably cost the election.
Imagine Hunter pleading guilty, serving no jail time, then his dad pardons him for something he admitted doing. He basically handed the GOP the election if he does that. And all for nothing if he doesn’t get jail time anyway. So yeah, he’s not going to pardon Hunter.
If he ends up getting the max sentences and jail time, then I wouldn’t be surprised. But that’s not going to happen so he’s not going to get pardoned.You don’t actually believe the ‘Biden crime family’ narrative spun by confirmed liars like Giuliani & trump, do you?0 -
Some interesting data:The Juggler said:Lerxst1992 said:
You know the supply chain was broken when Biden was inauguratedJB16057 said:
Welp groceries and fuel are still more expensive than ever and many families are struggling. The economy is not great for everyone.Jearlpam0925 said:Welp the Fed comes out and now forecasts no recession. What a terrible economy we're living in...
Curious how you conveniently are omitting that fact
Maga: What global pandemic? What huge war in Europe? It's all Biden's fault! And when things are rebounding, I will choose to ignore those facts! Maga!
https://www.gobankingrates.com/money/economy/how-economy-performed-under-each-president-since-lyndon-johnson/
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No. But let’s say they don’t reach a new deal and they decide to charge him with tax evasion instead. And he gets 5 years for each count and ends up serving 10 years for tax evasion? You don’t think Biden would pardon him then? He absolutely would and issue a statement that his son was wrongfully charged and convicted in order to seay the election (even if they find more evidence and they are legit charges - not saying there is, just being hypothetical.)Merkin Baller said:
Why? Beyond the fact that it’s his son is there any reason you don’t extend him the benefit of the doubt?mace1229 said:
Wouldnt he have to be convicted or the plea finalized first? Nothing to pardon him for yet.Merkin Baller said:
Because he could have already pardoned him if he wanted to.mace1229 said:
Because no president has ever said no and gone back on it?Merkin Baller said:bIdEn CrImE fAmIlY oMg
I don’t think Joe would pardon Hunter. But him saying he won’t means nothing. I only think he won’t because what’s the point, he wasn’t facing any jail? It’s not worth the bad publicity and probably cost the election.
Imagine Hunter pleading guilty, serving no jail time, then his dad pardons him for something he admitted doing. He basically handed the GOP the election if he does that. And all for nothing if he doesn’t get jail time anyway. So yeah, he’s not going to pardon Hunter.
If he ends up getting the max sentences and jail time, then I wouldn’t be surprised. But that’s not going to happen so he’s not going to get pardoned.You don’t actually believe the ‘Biden crime family’ narrative spun by confirmed liars like Giuliani & trump, do you?
But that wouldn’t happen. He’s not going to serve any jail time so there’s no point in a pardon.
i believe Biden when he said he won’t pardon his son. Not because I actually believe him, but because there will never be a reason to. Like I said before, it would be handing the election to the GOP if he pardoned his son for a crime he plead guilty to and isn’t even serving any time over. And he’d be doing to for almost no personal gain. So of course he’s not going to pardon himZPost edited by mace1229 on0 -
Why would he get 5 years for each tax charge though? Is he a repeat offender? I understand it's the max sentence, but how often are those handed down?mace1229 said:
No. But let’s say they don’t reach a new deal and they decide to charge him with tax evasion instead. And he gets 5 years for each count and ends up serving 10 years for tax evasion? You don’t think Biden would pardon him then? He absolutely would and issue a statement that his son was wrongfully charged and convicted in order to seay the election.Merkin Baller said:
Why? Beyond the fact that it’s his son is there any reason you don’t extend him the benefit of the doubt?mace1229 said:
Wouldnt he have to be convicted or the plea finalized first? Nothing to pardon him for yet.Merkin Baller said:
Because he could have already pardoned him if he wanted to.mace1229 said:
Because no president has ever said no and gone back on it?Merkin Baller said:bIdEn CrImE fAmIlY oMg
I don’t think Joe would pardon Hunter. But him saying he won’t means nothing. I only think he won’t because what’s the point, he wasn’t facing any jail? It’s not worth the bad publicity and probably cost the election.
Imagine Hunter pleading guilty, serving no jail time, then his dad pardons him for something he admitted doing. He basically handed the GOP the election if he does that. And all for nothing if he doesn’t get jail time anyway. So yeah, he’s not going to pardon Hunter.
If he ends up getting the max sentences and jail time, then I wouldn’t be surprised. But that’s not going to happen so he’s not going to get pardoned.You don’t actually believe the ‘Biden crime family’ narrative spun by confirmed liars like Giuliani & trump, do you?
But that wouldn’t happen. He’s not going to serve any jail time so there’s no point in a pardon.
i believe Biden when he said he won’t pardon his son. Not because I actually believe him, but because there will never be a reason to. Like I said before, it would be handing the election to the GOP if he pardoned his son for a crime he plead guilty to and isn’t even serving any time over. And he’d be doing to for almost no personal gain. So of course he’s not going to pardon himZ
I'm in favor of enforcing laws, but I also believe in proportionality... would you not be inclined to think it WAS political if he were to get the max sentence here?
Let's be honest, the pursuit of Hunter is the real witch hunt... you get that, right? After all these years of investigating, this is all they have. The Biden Crime Family narrative is a perfect example of the type of hoax trump is always crying about being a victim of... you understand all this projection about the bidens is just that... projection, right?0 -
I was being hypothetical. Even if it wasn’t political, and was totally legit, Joe would still pardon him. Do you not think he would? There is just no reason to at this point.Merkin Baller said:
Why would he get 5 years for each tax charge though? Is he a repeat offender? I understand it's the max sentence, but how often are those handed down?mace1229 said:
No. But let’s say they don’t reach a new deal and they decide to charge him with tax evasion instead. And he gets 5 years for each count and ends up serving 10 years for tax evasion? You don’t think Biden would pardon him then? He absolutely would and issue a statement that his son was wrongfully charged and convicted in order to seay the election.Merkin Baller said:
Why? Beyond the fact that it’s his son is there any reason you don’t extend him the benefit of the doubt?mace1229 said:
Wouldnt he have to be convicted or the plea finalized first? Nothing to pardon him for yet.Merkin Baller said:
Because he could have already pardoned him if he wanted to.mace1229 said:
Because no president has ever said no and gone back on it?Merkin Baller said:bIdEn CrImE fAmIlY oMg
I don’t think Joe would pardon Hunter. But him saying he won’t means nothing. I only think he won’t because what’s the point, he wasn’t facing any jail? It’s not worth the bad publicity and probably cost the election.
Imagine Hunter pleading guilty, serving no jail time, then his dad pardons him for something he admitted doing. He basically handed the GOP the election if he does that. And all for nothing if he doesn’t get jail time anyway. So yeah, he’s not going to pardon Hunter.
If he ends up getting the max sentences and jail time, then I wouldn’t be surprised. But that’s not going to happen so he’s not going to get pardoned.You don’t actually believe the ‘Biden crime family’ narrative spun by confirmed liars like Giuliani & trump, do you?
But that wouldn’t happen. He’s not going to serve any jail time so there’s no point in a pardon.
i believe Biden when he said he won’t pardon his son. Not because I actually believe him, but because there will never be a reason to. Like I said before, it would be handing the election to the GOP if he pardoned his son for a crime he plead guilty to and isn’t even serving any time over. And he’d be doing to for almost no personal gain. So of course he’s not going to pardon himZ
I'm in favor of enforcing laws, but I also believe in proportionality... would you not be inclined to think it WAS political if he were to get the max sentence here?
Let's be honest, the pursuit of Hunter is the real witch hunt... you get that, right? After all these years of investigating, this is all they have. The Biden Crime Family narrative is a perfect example of the type of hoax trump is always crying about being a victim of... you understand all this projection about the bidens is just that... projection, right?
And as far as how often that gets charged, I don’t know. But I do remember Richard from season 1 of survivor got 5 years for. It paying taxes on his winnings. So maybe it is common, I don’t know.
And wasn’t that the main charge behind Cohen getting his 3 years in a plea deal? He had multiple charges, but the biggest was tax evasion.
Im not a tax guy so I don’t know the difference between just failure to pay and a misdemeanor charge vs felony tax evasion that others got. But Hunter didn’t claim $3 million, a bigger sum than the Richard guy.Post edited by mace1229 on0 -
Cohen was guilty of campaign finance charges, tax fraud and bank fraud.mace1229 said:
I was being hypothetical. Even if it wasn’t political, and was totally legit, Joe would still pardon him. Do you not think he would? There is just no reason to at this point.Merkin Baller said:
Why would he get 5 years for each tax charge though? Is he a repeat offender? I understand it's the max sentence, but how often are those handed down?mace1229 said:
No. But let’s say they don’t reach a new deal and they decide to charge him with tax evasion instead. And he gets 5 years for each count and ends up serving 10 years for tax evasion? You don’t think Biden would pardon him then? He absolutely would and issue a statement that his son was wrongfully charged and convicted in order to seay the election.Merkin Baller said:
Why? Beyond the fact that it’s his son is there any reason you don’t extend him the benefit of the doubt?mace1229 said:
Wouldnt he have to be convicted or the plea finalized first? Nothing to pardon him for yet.Merkin Baller said:
Because he could have already pardoned him if he wanted to.mace1229 said:
Because no president has ever said no and gone back on it?Merkin Baller said:bIdEn CrImE fAmIlY oMg
I don’t think Joe would pardon Hunter. But him saying he won’t means nothing. I only think he won’t because what’s the point, he wasn’t facing any jail? It’s not worth the bad publicity and probably cost the election.
Imagine Hunter pleading guilty, serving no jail time, then his dad pardons him for something he admitted doing. He basically handed the GOP the election if he does that. And all for nothing if he doesn’t get jail time anyway. So yeah, he’s not going to pardon Hunter.
If he ends up getting the max sentences and jail time, then I wouldn’t be surprised. But that’s not going to happen so he’s not going to get pardoned.You don’t actually believe the ‘Biden crime family’ narrative spun by confirmed liars like Giuliani & trump, do you?
But that wouldn’t happen. He’s not going to serve any jail time so there’s no point in a pardon.
i believe Biden when he said he won’t pardon his son. Not because I actually believe him, but because there will never be a reason to. Like I said before, it would be handing the election to the GOP if he pardoned his son for a crime he plead guilty to and isn’t even serving any time over. And he’d be doing to for almost no personal gain. So of course he’s not going to pardon himZ
I'm in favor of enforcing laws, but I also believe in proportionality... would you not be inclined to think it WAS political if he were to get the max sentence here?
Let's be honest, the pursuit of Hunter is the real witch hunt... you get that, right? After all these years of investigating, this is all they have. The Biden Crime Family narrative is a perfect example of the type of hoax trump is always crying about being a victim of... you understand all this projection about the bidens is just that... projection, right?
And as far as how often that gets charged, I don’t know. But I do remember Richard from season 1 of survivor got 5 years for. It paying taxes on his winnings. So maybe it is common, I don’t know.
And wasn’t that the main charge behind Cohen getting his 3 years in a plea deal? He had multiple charges, but the biggest was tax evasion.
Im not a tax guy so I don’t know the difference between just failure to pay and a misdemeanor charge vs felony tax evasion that others got. But Hunter didn’t claim $3 million, a bigger sum than the Richard guy.
You guys are saying the same thing Mace is playing his role here and Merkinballer is cutting to the logical chase0 -
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Some interesting data:The Juggler said:Lerxst1992 said:
You know the supply chain was broken when Biden was inauguratedJB16057 said:
Welp groceries and fuel are still more expensive than ever and many families are struggling. The economy is not great for everyone.Jearlpam0925 said:Welp the Fed comes out and now forecasts no recession. What a terrible economy we're living in...
Curious how you conveniently are omitting that fact
Maga: What global pandemic? What huge war in Europe? It's all Biden's fault! And when things are rebounding, I will choose to ignore those facts! Maga!
https://www.gobankingrates.com/money/economy/how-economy-performed-under-each-president-since-lyndon-johnson/
That is good info. Thanks. Supports the argument that Biden has been....fine.Joe Biden (2021-Present)
- GDP growth: 2.6%
- Unemployment rate: 3.5%
- Inflation rate: 5.0%
- Poverty rate: 12.80%
- Real disposable income per capita: $46,682
- Disposable income per capita (adjusted for inflation): $46,557
As of this writing, Biden has been in office for a little over two years, so it’s still difficult to compare him to other presidents who completed a term or two. Nevertheless, the unemployment rate for Biden is the second lowest on this list, and GDP growth is the second highest. He is in the middle of the pack for poverty and inflation.
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