The all-purpose heavy duty Climate Chaos thread (sprinkled with hope).
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mickeyrat said:
I sometimes have to ask, are there really still climate change deniers or are they just simply people to like to be contrarian for the sake of being contrarian. I find these people to be easily ignored- I mean, how can one take them seriously?
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A new (not to be thankful for) record:
Phoenix breaks heat record with 19th day of temperatures at 110F or higher
Tuesday marked the 19th day the city of Phoenix has been subjected to temperatures of at least 110F (43.3C) – the longest stretch of time spent in such brutal heat – as record-breaking summer weather continues to affect millions in the US and around the world.The US city, which is the fifth biggest in the country, with a population of about 1.6 million that is only expected to grow in the coming years, often ranks as the hottest or one of the hottest.***********************************Wait a minute... did I read that right? Phoenix is expected to grow? As in, people actually want to go there? WTF???***********************************In if NOAA is correct here, that record will be even greater:WednesdaySunny and hot, with a high near 116. Breezy, with a light and variable wind becoming west 10 to 15 mph in the afternoon. Winds could gust as high as 20 mph.Wednesday NightMostly clear, with a low around 91. West wind 5 to 10 mph.ThursdaySunny and hot, with a high near 117. Breezy, with a south wind 5 to 10 mph becoming west 10 to 15 mph in the afternoon. Winds could gust as high as 20 mph.Thursday NightMostly clear, with a low around 91. West wind 5 to 10 mph.FridaySunny and hot, with a high near 116. Breezy, with a west wind 5 to 15 mph, with gusts as high as 20 mph.Friday NightA 20 percent chance of showers. Partly cloudy, with a low around 91. Breezy, with a west southwest wind 5 to 15 mph becoming south southeast after midnight. Winds could gust as high as 20 mph.SaturdayMostly sunny and hot, with a high near 113. South southwest wind 5 to 10 mph becoming west in the afternoon.Saturday NightA chance of showers and thunderstorms before 11pm, then a slight chance of showers. Mostly cloudy, with a low around 91. Northwest wind 5 to 10 mph becoming east southeast after midnight. Winds could gust as high as 20 mph. Chance of precipitation is 30%.SundayA 20 percent chance of showers after 11am. Mostly sunny and hot, with a high near 113. Breezy, with a north wind 5 to 15 mph becoming southwest in the morning. Winds could gust as high as 20 mph.Sunday NightA 30 percent chance of showers and thunderstorms. Mostly cloudy, with a low around 91. Breezy, with a southwest wind 5 to 15 mph becoming east after midnight. Winds could gust as high as 25 mph.MondayA 20 percent chance of showers. Mostly sunny and hot, with a high near 112. Breezy, with an east wind 5 to 15 mph becoming west in the afternoon. Winds could gust as high as 20 mph.Monday NightA 30 percent chance of showers and thunderstorms. Mostly cloudy, with a low around 92. Breezy, with a west wind 5 to 15 mph becoming east after midnight. Winds could gust as high as 20 mph.TuesdayA 30 percent chance of showers and thunderstorms. Mostly sunny and hot, with a high near 112. Breezy, with a southeast wind 5 to 15 mph becoming west in the afternoon. Winds could gust as high as 20 mph.
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I would suspect or at least hope that the name James Hansen is familiar with anyone who has had an interest in global warming. Al Gore gets a lot of attention on the subject- understandably, of course- but James Hansen is almost like the godfather of climate change awareness. With his depth of breadth of knowledge on the topic, he is one to listen to. It is hugely sad that too few have done so.
‘We are damned fools’: scientist who sounded climate alarm in 80s warns of worse to come
James Hansen, who testified to Congress on global heating in 1988, says world is approaching a ‘new climate frontier’
The world is shifting towards a superheated climate not seen in the past 1m years, prior to human existence, because “we are damned fools” for not acting upon warnings over the climate crisis, according to James Hansen, the US scientist who alerted the world to the greenhouse effect in the 1980s.
Hansen, whose testimony to the US Senate in 1988 is cited as the first high-profile revelation of global heating, warned in a statement with two other scientists that the world was moving towards a “new climate frontier” with temperatures higher than at any point over the past million years, bringing impacts such as stronger storms, heatwaves and droughts.
The world has already warmed by about 1.2C since mass industrialization, causing a 20% chance of having the sort of extreme summer temperatures currently seen in many parts of the northern hemisphere, up from a 1% chance 50 years ago, Hansen said.
“There’s a lot more in the pipeline, unless we reduce the greenhouse gas amounts,” Hansen, who is 82, told the Guardian. “These superstorms are a taste of the storms of my grandchildren. We are headed wittingly into the new reality – we knew it was coming.”
Hansen was a Nasa climate scientist when he warned lawmakers of growing global heating and has since taken part in protests alongside activists to decry the lack of action to reduce planet-heating emissions in the decades since.
He said the record heatwaves that have roiled the US, Europe, China and elsewhere in recent weeks have heightened “a sense of disappointment that we scientists did not communicate more clearly and that we did not elect leaders capable of a more intelligent response”.
“It means we are damned fools,” Hansen said of humanity’s ponderous response to the climate crisis. “We have to taste it to believe it.”
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You know, old land line phones with multiple lines, same number, you could put them on hold? Well, Al Gore is holding on line 2 and would like to discuss his “Inconvenient Truth,” but you know, it’s just leftist, radical liberal, socialist alarmism to discuss the water temperatures around Flo Rida, the Gulf of Mexico, the Persian gulf, sea ice and glacier melt and record day and night temperatures in China, Europe and the US. Just all lies.brianlux said:
Should I ask Al to call back in a year or two?09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;
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Halifax2TheMax said:
You know, old land line phones with multiple lines, same number, you could put them on hold? Well, Al Gore is holding on line 2 and would like to discuss his “Inconvenient Truth,” but you know, it’s just leftist, radical liberal, socialist alarmism to discuss the water temperatures around Flo Rida, the Gulf of Mexico, the Persian gulf, sea ice and glacier melt and record day and night temperatures in China, Europe and the US. Just all lies.brianlux said:
Should I ask Al to call back in a year or two?Haha! Good stuff from your creative mind.
Aw heck, have Al call any time! Would love to catch up with him!Seriously though, I imagine Mr. Gore feels the same way as James Hansen above. Imagine the frustration of being ignored (or shunned) by so many."It's a sad and beautiful world"-Roberto Benigni0 -
All while being mostly correct or "right."brianlux said:Halifax2TheMax said:
You know, old land line phones with multiple lines, same number, you could put them on hold? Well, Al Gore is holding on line 2 and would like to discuss his “Inconvenient Truth,” but you know, it’s just leftist, radical liberal, socialist alarmism to discuss the water temperatures around Flo Rida, the Gulf of Mexico, the Persian gulf, sea ice and glacier melt and record day and night temperatures in China, Europe and the US. Just all lies.brianlux said:
Should I ask Al to call back in a year or two?Haha! Good stuff from your creative mind.Aw heck, have Al call any time! Would love to catch up with him!Seriously though, I imagine Mr. Gore feels the same way as James Hansen above. Imagine the frustration of being ignored (or shunned) by so many.
https://youtu.be/uq-gYOrU8bA
09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;
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Halifax2TheMax said:
All while being mostly correct or "right."brianlux said:Halifax2TheMax said:
You know, old land line phones with multiple lines, same number, you could put them on hold? Well, Al Gore is holding on line 2 and would like to discuss his “Inconvenient Truth,” but you know, it’s just leftist, radical liberal, socialist alarmism to discuss the water temperatures around Flo Rida, the Gulf of Mexico, the Persian gulf, sea ice and glacier melt and record day and night temperatures in China, Europe and the US. Just all lies.brianlux said:
Should I ask Al to call back in a year or two?Haha! Good stuff from your creative mind.Aw heck, have Al call any time! Would love to catch up with him!Seriously though, I imagine Mr. Gore feels the same way as James Hansen above. Imagine the frustration of being ignored (or shunned) by so many.https://youtu.be/uq-gYOrU8bA
Ha! Oldie but goodie!
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Is it curious our conservative friends never stop by this thread. Seems they’re only interested on dropping bombs on Biden. It’s not political, it seems the right is totally unconcerned with the current troubling trends, record breaking heat nearly every year, wildfires are now normal, among other issues.
Here’s an interesting story, basically a summer of record breaking heat. With an election cycle upcoming, it’ll be interesting to see what they use to confuse the public this time…
https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-66229065“The average global ocean temperature has smashed records for May, June and July. It is approaching the highest sea surface temperature ever recorded, which was in 2016.
But it is extreme heat in the North Atlantic ocean that is particularly alarming scientists.
"We've never ever had a marine heatwave in this part of Atlantic. I had not expected this," says Daniela Schmidt, Prof of Earth Sciences at the University of Bristol.
In June temperatures off the west coast of Ireland were between 4C and 5C above average, which the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration classified as a category 5 heatwave, or "beyond extreme".
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Lerxst1992 said:Is it curious our conservative friends never stop by this thread. Seems they’re only interested on dropping bombs on Biden. It’s not political, it seems the right is totally unconcerned with the current troubling trends, record breaking heat nearly every year, wildfires are now normal, among other issues.
Here’s an interesting story, basically a summer of record breaking heat. With an election cycle upcoming, it’ll be interesting to see what they use to confuse the public this time…
https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-66229065“The average global ocean temperature has smashed records for May, June and July. It is approaching the highest sea surface temperature ever recorded, which was in 2016.
But it is extreme heat in the North Atlantic ocean that is particularly alarming scientists.
"We've never ever had a marine heatwave in this part of Atlantic. I had not expected this," says Daniela Schmidt, Prof of Earth Sciences at the University of Bristol.
In June temperatures off the west coast of Ireland were between 4C and 5C above average, which the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration classified as a category 5 heatwave, or "beyond extreme".
Good point, L! But of course, most radical right folks are also climate change deniers or at the very least, unwilling to admit climate change is anthropogenic.I would add that it is curious (to me, down right perplexing) that more people in general her on AMT don't stop by this and other threads related to global warming and climate change. In the last few weeks I have read numerous articles about extreme heat, record breaking heat waves in many parts of the U.S and the rest of the world, extreme heat as a major issue in UPS contract talks, sick and dying workers on the US/Mexican border due to high temperatures, extreme heat and fires in Athens, and on and on and on.Why is this subject largely ignored here? I really don't get it."It's a sad and beautiful world"-Roberto Benigni0 -
Don’t assume that the lack of comments in this thread indicates a lack of concern or following up and paying attention to climate change. I assume that for most people, what’s left to say? And what can be done about it beyond the individual level? For me personally, I think it’s too late and we’re beyond the tipping point. It’s going to be catastrophic climate in 10-20 years as opposed to 50-70 years, even if we, the human population, but mostly the US, China, EU and India radically change our economies and drastically reduce our fossil fuel use. And that’s not going to happen in the next 10-50 years.brianlux said:Lerxst1992 said:Is it curious our conservative friends never stop by this thread. Seems they’re only interested on dropping bombs on Biden. It’s not political, it seems the right is totally unconcerned with the current troubling trends, record breaking heat nearly every year, wildfires are now normal, among other issues.
Here’s an interesting story, basically a summer of record breaking heat. With an election cycle upcoming, it’ll be interesting to see what they use to confuse the public this time…
https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-66229065“The average global ocean temperature has smashed records for May, June and July. It is approaching the highest sea surface temperature ever recorded, which was in 2016.
But it is extreme heat in the North Atlantic ocean that is particularly alarming scientists.
"We've never ever had a marine heatwave in this part of Atlantic. I had not expected this," says Daniela Schmidt, Prof of Earth Sciences at the University of Bristol.
In June temperatures off the west coast of Ireland were between 4C and 5C above average, which the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration classified as a category 5 heatwave, or "beyond extreme".
Good point, L! But of course, most radical right folks are also climate change deniers or at the very least, unwilling to admit climate change is anthropogenic.I would add that it is curious (to me, down right perplexing) that more people in general her on AMT don't stop by this and other threads related to global warming and climate change. In the last few weeks I have read numerous articles about extreme heat, record breaking heat waves in many parts of the U.S and the rest of the world, extreme heat as a major issue in UPS contract talks, sick and dying workers on the US/Mexican border due to high temperatures, extreme heat and fires in Athens, and on and on and on.Why is this subject largely ignored here? I really don't get it.
I’ll keep doing what I can by eating less meat, driving less, using less plastic and recycling more, taking public transportation, walking or biking, etc. but all in all, it feels like I’m pissing in the wind, particularly when one major political party and their voters refuse to believe it’s human caused and they think the solution is “burn baby burn.” We need and will get a great “re-set.”
Great book from the title of this CNN article. I encourage people to read it as the earth is capable of healing itself but only if there’s a lot less of us around and consuming.
https://www.cnn.com/travel/article/haunting-images-of-abandoned-sites-overrun-by-nature/index.html
09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;
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Halifax2TheMax said:
Don’t assume that the lack of comments in this thread indicates a lack of concern or following up and paying attention to climate change. I assume that for most people, what’s left to say? And what can be done about it beyond the individual level? For me personally, I think it’s too late and we’re beyond the tipping point. It’s going to be catastrophic climate in 10-20 years as opposed to 50-70 years, even if we, the human population, but mostly the US, China, EU and India radically change our economies and drastically reduce our fossil fuel use. And that’s not going to happen in the next 10-50 years.brianlux said:Lerxst1992 said:Is it curious our conservative friends never stop by this thread. Seems they’re only interested on dropping bombs on Biden. It’s not political, it seems the right is totally unconcerned with the current troubling trends, record breaking heat nearly every year, wildfires are now normal, among other issues.
Here’s an interesting story, basically a summer of record breaking heat. With an election cycle upcoming, it’ll be interesting to see what they use to confuse the public this time…
https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-66229065“The average global ocean temperature has smashed records for May, June and July. It is approaching the highest sea surface temperature ever recorded, which was in 2016.
But it is extreme heat in the North Atlantic ocean that is particularly alarming scientists.
"We've never ever had a marine heatwave in this part of Atlantic. I had not expected this," says Daniela Schmidt, Prof of Earth Sciences at the University of Bristol.
In June temperatures off the west coast of Ireland were between 4C and 5C above average, which the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration classified as a category 5 heatwave, or "beyond extreme".
Good point, L! But of course, most radical right folks are also climate change deniers or at the very least, unwilling to admit climate change is anthropogenic.I would add that it is curious (to me, down right perplexing) that more people in general her on AMT don't stop by this and other threads related to global warming and climate change. In the last few weeks I have read numerous articles about extreme heat, record breaking heat waves in many parts of the U.S and the rest of the world, extreme heat as a major issue in UPS contract talks, sick and dying workers on the US/Mexican border due to high temperatures, extreme heat and fires in Athens, and on and on and on.Why is this subject largely ignored here? I really don't get it.
I’ll keep doing what I can by eating less meat, driving less, using less plastic and recycling more, taking public transportation, walking or biking, etc. but all in all, it feels like I’m pissing in the wind, particularly when one major political party and their voters refuse to believe it’s human caused and they think the solution is “burn baby burn.” We need and will get a great “re-set.”
Great book from the title of this CNN article. I encourage people to read it as the earth is capable of healing itself but only if there’s a lot less of us around and consuming.
https://www.cnn.com/travel/article/haunting-images-of-abandoned-sites-overrun-by-nature/index.htmlThank you for doing your part-- and then some.Also, thanks for the book recommendation. It looks excellent and I will check it out!"It's a sad and beautiful world"-Roberto Benigni0 -
Halifax2TheMax said:
Don’t assume that the lack of comments in this thread indicates a lack of concern or following up and paying attention to climate change. I assume that for most people, what’s left to say? And what can be done about it beyond the individual level? For me personally, I think it’s too late and we’re beyond the tipping point. It’s going to be catastrophic climate in 10-20 years as opposed to 50-70 years, even if we, the human population, but mostly the US, China, EU and India radically change our economies and drastically reduce our fossil fuel use. And that’s not going to happen in the next 10-50 years.brianlux said:Lerxst1992 said:Is it curious our conservative friends never stop by this thread. Seems they’re only interested on dropping bombs on Biden. It’s not political, it seems the right is totally unconcerned with the current troubling trends, record breaking heat nearly every year, wildfires are now normal, among other issues.
Here’s an interesting story, basically a summer of record breaking heat. With an election cycle upcoming, it’ll be interesting to see what they use to confuse the public this time…
https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-66229065“The average global ocean temperature has smashed records for May, June and July. It is approaching the highest sea surface temperature ever recorded, which was in 2016.
But it is extreme heat in the North Atlantic ocean that is particularly alarming scientists.
"We've never ever had a marine heatwave in this part of Atlantic. I had not expected this," says Daniela Schmidt, Prof of Earth Sciences at the University of Bristol.
In June temperatures off the west coast of Ireland were between 4C and 5C above average, which the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration classified as a category 5 heatwave, or "beyond extreme".
Good point, L! But of course, most radical right folks are also climate change deniers or at the very least, unwilling to admit climate change is anthropogenic.I would add that it is curious (to me, down right perplexing) that more people in general her on AMT don't stop by this and other threads related to global warming and climate change. In the last few weeks I have read numerous articles about extreme heat, record breaking heat waves in many parts of the U.S and the rest of the world, extreme heat as a major issue in UPS contract talks, sick and dying workers on the US/Mexican border due to high temperatures, extreme heat and fires in Athens, and on and on and on.Why is this subject largely ignored here? I really don't get it.
I’ll keep doing what I can by eating less meat, driving less, using less plastic and recycling more, taking public transportation, walking or biking, etc. but all in all, it feels like I’m pissing in the wind, particularly when one major political party and their voters refuse to believe it’s human caused and they think the solution is “burn baby burn.” We need and will get a great “re-set.”
Great book from the title of this CNN article. I encourage people to read it as the earth is capable of healing itself but only if there’s a lot less of us around and consuming.
https://www.cnn.com/travel/article/haunting-images-of-abandoned-sites-overrun-by-nature/index.html
The book looks to be only in French, yes? Je ne parle pas français!
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So the article states. I was referring to “The World Without Us,” which I believe you’ve read or we’ve discussed in the past.brianlux said:Halifax2TheMax said:
Don’t assume that the lack of comments in this thread indicates a lack of concern or following up and paying attention to climate change. I assume that for most people, what’s left to say? And what can be done about it beyond the individual level? For me personally, I think it’s too late and we’re beyond the tipping point. It’s going to be catastrophic climate in 10-20 years as opposed to 50-70 years, even if we, the human population, but mostly the US, China, EU and India radically change our economies and drastically reduce our fossil fuel use. And that’s not going to happen in the next 10-50 years.brianlux said:Lerxst1992 said:Is it curious our conservative friends never stop by this thread. Seems they’re only interested on dropping bombs on Biden. It’s not political, it seems the right is totally unconcerned with the current troubling trends, record breaking heat nearly every year, wildfires are now normal, among other issues.
Here’s an interesting story, basically a summer of record breaking heat. With an election cycle upcoming, it’ll be interesting to see what they use to confuse the public this time…
https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-66229065“The average global ocean temperature has smashed records for May, June and July. It is approaching the highest sea surface temperature ever recorded, which was in 2016.
But it is extreme heat in the North Atlantic ocean that is particularly alarming scientists.
"We've never ever had a marine heatwave in this part of Atlantic. I had not expected this," says Daniela Schmidt, Prof of Earth Sciences at the University of Bristol.
In June temperatures off the west coast of Ireland were between 4C and 5C above average, which the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration classified as a category 5 heatwave, or "beyond extreme".
Good point, L! But of course, most radical right folks are also climate change deniers or at the very least, unwilling to admit climate change is anthropogenic.I would add that it is curious (to me, down right perplexing) that more people in general her on AMT don't stop by this and other threads related to global warming and climate change. In the last few weeks I have read numerous articles about extreme heat, record breaking heat waves in many parts of the U.S and the rest of the world, extreme heat as a major issue in UPS contract talks, sick and dying workers on the US/Mexican border due to high temperatures, extreme heat and fires in Athens, and on and on and on.Why is this subject largely ignored here? I really don't get it.
I’ll keep doing what I can by eating less meat, driving less, using less plastic and recycling more, taking public transportation, walking or biking, etc. but all in all, it feels like I’m pissing in the wind, particularly when one major political party and their voters refuse to believe it’s human caused and they think the solution is “burn baby burn.” We need and will get a great “re-set.”
Great book from the title of this CNN article. I encourage people to read it as the earth is capable of healing itself but only if there’s a lot less of us around and consuming.
https://www.cnn.com/travel/article/haunting-images-of-abandoned-sites-overrun-by-nature/index.html
The book looks to be only in French, yes? Je ne parle pas français!09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;
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Halifax2TheMax said:
So the article states. I was referring to “The World Without Us,” which I believe you’ve read or we’ve discussed in the past.brianlux said:Halifax2TheMax said:
Don’t assume that the lack of comments in this thread indicates a lack of concern or following up and paying attention to climate change. I assume that for most people, what’s left to say? And what can be done about it beyond the individual level? For me personally, I think it’s too late and we’re beyond the tipping point. It’s going to be catastrophic climate in 10-20 years as opposed to 50-70 years, even if we, the human population, but mostly the US, China, EU and India radically change our economies and drastically reduce our fossil fuel use. And that’s not going to happen in the next 10-50 years.brianlux said:Lerxst1992 said:Is it curious our conservative friends never stop by this thread. Seems they’re only interested on dropping bombs on Biden. It’s not political, it seems the right is totally unconcerned with the current troubling trends, record breaking heat nearly every year, wildfires are now normal, among other issues.
Here’s an interesting story, basically a summer of record breaking heat. With an election cycle upcoming, it’ll be interesting to see what they use to confuse the public this time…
https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-66229065“The average global ocean temperature has smashed records for May, June and July. It is approaching the highest sea surface temperature ever recorded, which was in 2016.
But it is extreme heat in the North Atlantic ocean that is particularly alarming scientists.
"We've never ever had a marine heatwave in this part of Atlantic. I had not expected this," says Daniela Schmidt, Prof of Earth Sciences at the University of Bristol.
In June temperatures off the west coast of Ireland were between 4C and 5C above average, which the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration classified as a category 5 heatwave, or "beyond extreme".
Good point, L! But of course, most radical right folks are also climate change deniers or at the very least, unwilling to admit climate change is anthropogenic.I would add that it is curious (to me, down right perplexing) that more people in general her on AMT don't stop by this and other threads related to global warming and climate change. In the last few weeks I have read numerous articles about extreme heat, record breaking heat waves in many parts of the U.S and the rest of the world, extreme heat as a major issue in UPS contract talks, sick and dying workers on the US/Mexican border due to high temperatures, extreme heat and fires in Athens, and on and on and on.Why is this subject largely ignored here? I really don't get it.
I’ll keep doing what I can by eating less meat, driving less, using less plastic and recycling more, taking public transportation, walking or biking, etc. but all in all, it feels like I’m pissing in the wind, particularly when one major political party and their voters refuse to believe it’s human caused and they think the solution is “burn baby burn.” We need and will get a great “re-set.”
Great book from the title of this CNN article. I encourage people to read it as the earth is capable of healing itself but only if there’s a lot less of us around and consuming.
https://www.cnn.com/travel/article/haunting-images-of-abandoned-sites-overrun-by-nature/index.html
The book looks to be only in French, yes? Je ne parle pas français!
OoooooooooK, got it! I thought you were recommending the Romain Vellion book, Green Urbex: The World Without Us, but you were referring to Alan Weisman's marvelous book titled (more simply) The World Without us. Yes, terrific book! I can't recommend it enough everyone- great read!
"It's a sad and beautiful world"-Roberto Benigni0 -
I don’t read or speak French but I like to pretend that I can. I may just get the book and practice my Frenchy sauce.brianlux said:Halifax2TheMax said:
So the article states. I was referring to “The World Without Us,” which I believe you’ve read or we’ve discussed in the past.brianlux said:Halifax2TheMax said:
Don’t assume that the lack of comments in this thread indicates a lack of concern or following up and paying attention to climate change. I assume that for most people, what’s left to say? And what can be done about it beyond the individual level? For me personally, I think it’s too late and we’re beyond the tipping point. It’s going to be catastrophic climate in 10-20 years as opposed to 50-70 years, even if we, the human population, but mostly the US, China, EU and India radically change our economies and drastically reduce our fossil fuel use. And that’s not going to happen in the next 10-50 years.brianlux said:Lerxst1992 said:Is it curious our conservative friends never stop by this thread. Seems they’re only interested on dropping bombs on Biden. It’s not political, it seems the right is totally unconcerned with the current troubling trends, record breaking heat nearly every year, wildfires are now normal, among other issues.
Here’s an interesting story, basically a summer of record breaking heat. With an election cycle upcoming, it’ll be interesting to see what they use to confuse the public this time…
https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-66229065“The average global ocean temperature has smashed records for May, June and July. It is approaching the highest sea surface temperature ever recorded, which was in 2016.
But it is extreme heat in the North Atlantic ocean that is particularly alarming scientists.
"We've never ever had a marine heatwave in this part of Atlantic. I had not expected this," says Daniela Schmidt, Prof of Earth Sciences at the University of Bristol.
In June temperatures off the west coast of Ireland were between 4C and 5C above average, which the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration classified as a category 5 heatwave, or "beyond extreme".
Good point, L! But of course, most radical right folks are also climate change deniers or at the very least, unwilling to admit climate change is anthropogenic.I would add that it is curious (to me, down right perplexing) that more people in general her on AMT don't stop by this and other threads related to global warming and climate change. In the last few weeks I have read numerous articles about extreme heat, record breaking heat waves in many parts of the U.S and the rest of the world, extreme heat as a major issue in UPS contract talks, sick and dying workers on the US/Mexican border due to high temperatures, extreme heat and fires in Athens, and on and on and on.Why is this subject largely ignored here? I really don't get it.
I’ll keep doing what I can by eating less meat, driving less, using less plastic and recycling more, taking public transportation, walking or biking, etc. but all in all, it feels like I’m pissing in the wind, particularly when one major political party and their voters refuse to believe it’s human caused and they think the solution is “burn baby burn.” We need and will get a great “re-set.”
Great book from the title of this CNN article. I encourage people to read it as the earth is capable of healing itself but only if there’s a lot less of us around and consuming.
https://www.cnn.com/travel/article/haunting-images-of-abandoned-sites-overrun-by-nature/index.html
The book looks to be only in French, yes? Je ne parle pas français!
OoooooooooK, got it! I thought you were recommending the Romain Vellion book, Green Urbex: The World Without Us, but you were referring to Alan Weisman's marvelous book titled (more simply) The World Without us. Yes, terrific book! I can't recommend it enough everyone- great read!09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;
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Halifax2TheMax said:
I don’t read or speak French but I like to pretend that I can. I may just get the book and practice my Frenchy sauce.brianlux said:Halifax2TheMax said:
So the article states. I was referring to “The World Without Us,” which I believe you’ve read or we’ve discussed in the past.brianlux said:Halifax2TheMax said:
Don’t assume that the lack of comments in this thread indicates a lack of concern or following up and paying attention to climate change. I assume that for most people, what’s left to say? And what can be done about it beyond the individual level? For me personally, I think it’s too late and we’re beyond the tipping point. It’s going to be catastrophic climate in 10-20 years as opposed to 50-70 years, even if we, the human population, but mostly the US, China, EU and India radically change our economies and drastically reduce our fossil fuel use. And that’s not going to happen in the next 10-50 years.brianlux said:Lerxst1992 said:Is it curious our conservative friends never stop by this thread. Seems they’re only interested on dropping bombs on Biden. It’s not political, it seems the right is totally unconcerned with the current troubling trends, record breaking heat nearly every year, wildfires are now normal, among other issues.
Here’s an interesting story, basically a summer of record breaking heat. With an election cycle upcoming, it’ll be interesting to see what they use to confuse the public this time…
https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-66229065“The average global ocean temperature has smashed records for May, June and July. It is approaching the highest sea surface temperature ever recorded, which was in 2016.
But it is extreme heat in the North Atlantic ocean that is particularly alarming scientists.
"We've never ever had a marine heatwave in this part of Atlantic. I had not expected this," says Daniela Schmidt, Prof of Earth Sciences at the University of Bristol.
In June temperatures off the west coast of Ireland were between 4C and 5C above average, which the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration classified as a category 5 heatwave, or "beyond extreme".
Good point, L! But of course, most radical right folks are also climate change deniers or at the very least, unwilling to admit climate change is anthropogenic.I would add that it is curious (to me, down right perplexing) that more people in general her on AMT don't stop by this and other threads related to global warming and climate change. In the last few weeks I have read numerous articles about extreme heat, record breaking heat waves in many parts of the U.S and the rest of the world, extreme heat as a major issue in UPS contract talks, sick and dying workers on the US/Mexican border due to high temperatures, extreme heat and fires in Athens, and on and on and on.Why is this subject largely ignored here? I really don't get it.
I’ll keep doing what I can by eating less meat, driving less, using less plastic and recycling more, taking public transportation, walking or biking, etc. but all in all, it feels like I’m pissing in the wind, particularly when one major political party and their voters refuse to believe it’s human caused and they think the solution is “burn baby burn.” We need and will get a great “re-set.”
Great book from the title of this CNN article. I encourage people to read it as the earth is capable of healing itself but only if there’s a lot less of us around and consuming.
https://www.cnn.com/travel/article/haunting-images-of-abandoned-sites-overrun-by-nature/index.html
The book looks to be only in French, yes? Je ne parle pas français!
OoooooooooK, got it! I thought you were recommending the Romain Vellion book, Green Urbex: The World Without Us, but you were referring to Alan Weisman's marvelous book titled (more simply) The World Without us. Yes, terrific book! I can't recommend it enough everyone- great read!There ya go!I used to learn just enough from different languages to get a feel for them. Sometimes I would take a phrase out of a language book and memorize it and get the pronunciation down. Like when I found this old, old French language book, opened it up and picked a phrase at random to learn. I don't remember the French phrase now but the English translation was, "The charcoal burner is the master of his own home." Like I said, an OLD book, lol.But generally I never did well or got very far with most of them. I did OK with Spanish when I was a lot younger. Might not be a bad idea to take it up again. They say learning another language helps keep the brain from deteriorating so quickly. I could probably use something like that!"It's a sad and beautiful world"-Roberto Benigni0 -
CNN —
It is so hot in Maricopa County, Arizona, that people are being brought into the emergency room with significant, sometimes life-threatening burns. For the past three or four weeks of this record heatwave, people have been burned just by falling on the ground.
https://www.cnn.com/2023/07/24/health/arizona-heat-burns-er/index.html
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