#46 President Joe Biden

HughFreakingDillon said:

mrussel1 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

cblock4life said:

RYME said:

Merkin Baller said:

RYME said:

Merkin Baller said:

RYME said:

The Juggler said:

RYME said:

The Juggler said:

What I don't get is not the voting for him in '16. It's the being (rightfully) disgusted with him enough to sit out 2020....yet voicing absolutely no concern what so ever for anything he's being credibly accused of since. And, instead, coming on here and bitching and complaining about cocaine being found in the White House. That doesn't compute. 

Well this used to be the Joe Biden thread.
Trump has been out for 3+ years.  I don't know who brought up Trump in this conversation?
I wish Trump would go away.   I don't think there is any way he could win again.  That's good right?  He will probably win in the primaries because there are a lot of fools among us, and get his clock cleaned again in the general.  The left wants him to get the nomination because he is clearly the easiest to beat.
What don't you get?  I held my nose in 16, and by 2020, couldn't stand either one of them.

Trump's the frontrunner by a country mile in the current GOP primary. He will be Biden's opponent next year man. Why do you guys act like he doesn't matter anymore? lol

No matter which thread we're in, you've never expressed outrage over this guy who stole top secret government documents and refused to return them after being issued a subpoena...in addition to attempting to prevent the Biden administration from gaining power after they won the election. He represents the end to democracy as we know it yet you're here going on and on about minor Biden conspiracies. That's what I don't get. It's not the typical hold your nose and vote for the lesser of two evil thing. We are waaaay past that. 

I was kicked out of this forum probably a year and a half ago because someone was calling me a Confederate.   That pissed me off a lot, so didn't hesitate to call that person a _______.   And was kicked out. So how could I have commented on all Trump's crap here?  I'm not gonna go back and back and back now.
I didn't support Trump in 2020, therefore I'm not responsible for his crap! (He was given a lot of bad advice though from several of his top advisors on what could and should be done, pertaining to his handling of Jan 6th & trying to overturn the election)  That doesn't excuse his actions. Repeat that does not excuse his demanding Mike Pence send it back to the states in question.   He was told that if enough senators from the swing states in question would refuse to conferm the vote from the states in question because of irregularitie clames, that  the vote would go back to the individual state houses and there state assemblies would hash it out.  There was a word for this that escapes me.  When they were going through this, that's when all the chaos at the capital started happening. They adjourned for a few hours. Came back and finished it.
I did vote in 2020 in local & state races, school board, & whatever referendums were on it, but I left the presidential vote blank. 
I don't like Biden either,  and since this is the Joe Biden thread,  and the coke was the topic of the week last week,  I made some comments,  but I didn't go "on & on & on" but so,  If someone in the Biden Whitehouse likes to do the wake & bake thing, it's fair game.

I give you credit for being honest and straightforward. I'm not trying to pile on here... 

I have to refute the above  boldface section though: 
Trump was also given a lot of good advice in the wake of the 2020 election which he chose to ignore. He knew exactly what he was doing when he tried to subvert the results of the 2020 election.  

Did you know him & Steve Bannon had a 'Stop the Steal' movement planned for November of 2016 before he unexpectedly won? Let that sink in... they expected to lose in 2016, and planned in advance to claim voter fraud. When he eventually lost in 2020, they went w/ the 2016 plan: "Stop the steal". 

You're giving him too much credit, the man literally tried to overrule the constitution and for the first time in our nation's history, prevented a peaceful transfer of power. 


I say this as respectfully as possible: wake up. 

I appreciate your politeness, because if you read back just a little ways, you'll see that most of these people challenging me would love to give me the Paul Pelosi treatment.

I didn't see where anyone suggested you should have your skull crushed in like Paul Pelosi.(that's quite the analogy to bring up btw) 

I did however see where you claimed the Bidens were breaking laws every day, as well as some other curious statements. 

You may want to consider some more neutral news sources; it appears you're consuming a lot of far right nonsense based on some of the things you've said over the last few days. 

How do you know that your news sources are all on the up & up?  I listen to as much as I can from all angles, and then form my opinions and conclusions after I take it all in, and I'm open to the possibility that I might be wrong.  I drive truck 550 miles/day so I listen to different podcasts & everything I can find.  The Joe Biden thread is temporarily back to being the Ryan thread,
I listen to the Breakfast Club.(east coast Syndicated program) and I also listen to dosens of radio stations via unlimited streaming.   I listen to local AM Boston radio,  Chicago, Miami, St Louis, Milwaukee,  Phoenix,  LA, Seattle, and others.  Even the View.  I take it all in before I go spouting opinions and observations.  Im leaving things out because there's so many options to listen to.  And when I get sick of it all, I put on the tunes.
This forum coming from most (not all) here is a left wing eco chamber. Y'all are very cozy here.  Safe space.  So anyone with a different take on any matter no matter how big or small are very obviously not welcome here, not well liked no matter what they say while trying to find common ground,  or some clarity at the very least.
Usually  mocked & dismissed. And then they quit talking because there's no point.

I never feel safe here.  I read this forum for about five years before posting and my first few outings (big fight with HFD!!) were me being an ass but until others showed me that I too felt ganged up on.  I stepped back and saw they were correct.  In the beginning it felt like trying to sit at the popular table, but it really isn’t. 

Many of us agree with what PJ has taught us since 1991.  Being the same age as these guys I was definitely not as conscious or concerned about what those guys already knew.  

I don’t want you to feel bad, now i feel sad making you feel like that.  I’m truly sorry.  Stick around.  I promise you’ll learn so much about everything and especially yourself. 

haha, I remember that. and it's funny, my first experience on AMT was virtually the same. I was ignorant and got piled on and felt like an absolute idiot.  

I feel like we've all been around for a while now.  At some point we should do a meet up.. maybe St Paul or Chicago, catch a beer before a show. 

If I stay the course and go to both St Paul shows, I'd be down for that. 

mrussel1 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

cblock4life said:

RYME said:

Merkin Baller said:

RYME said:

Merkin Baller said:

RYME said:

The Juggler said:

RYME said:

The Juggler said:

What I don't get is not the voting for him in '16. It's the being (rightfully) disgusted with him enough to sit out 2020....yet voicing absolutely no concern what so ever for anything he's being credibly accused of since. And, instead, coming on here and bitching and complaining about cocaine being found in the White House. That doesn't compute. 

Well this used to be the Joe Biden thread.
Trump has been out for 3+ years.  I don't know who brought up Trump in this conversation?
I wish Trump would go away.   I don't think there is any way he could win again.  That's good right?  He will probably win in the primaries because there are a lot of fools among us, and get his clock cleaned again in the general.  The left wants him to get the nomination because he is clearly the easiest to beat.
What don't you get?  I held my nose in 16, and by 2020, couldn't stand either one of them.

Trump's the frontrunner by a country mile in the current GOP primary. He will be Biden's opponent next year man. Why do you guys act like he doesn't matter anymore? lol

No matter which thread we're in, you've never expressed outrage over this guy who stole top secret government documents and refused to return them after being issued a subpoena...in addition to attempting to prevent the Biden administration from gaining power after they won the election. He represents the end to democracy as we know it yet you're here going on and on about minor Biden conspiracies. That's what I don't get. It's not the typical hold your nose and vote for the lesser of two evil thing. We are waaaay past that. 

I was kicked out of this forum probably a year and a half ago because someone was calling me a Confederate.   That pissed me off a lot, so didn't hesitate to call that person a _______.   And was kicked out. So how could I have commented on all Trump's crap here?  I'm not gonna go back and back and back now.
I didn't support Trump in 2020, therefore I'm not responsible for his crap! (He was given a lot of bad advice though from several of his top advisors on what could and should be done, pertaining to his handling of Jan 6th & trying to overturn the election)  That doesn't excuse his actions. Repeat that does not excuse his demanding Mike Pence send it back to the states in question.   He was told that if enough senators from the swing states in question would refuse to conferm the vote from the states in question because of irregularitie clames, that  the vote would go back to the individual state houses and there state assemblies would hash it out.  There was a word for this that escapes me.  When they were going through this, that's when all the chaos at the capital started happening. They adjourned for a few hours. Came back and finished it.
I did vote in 2020 in local & state races, school board, & whatever referendums were on it, but I left the presidential vote blank. 
I don't like Biden either,  and since this is the Joe Biden thread,  and the coke was the topic of the week last week,  I made some comments,  but I didn't go "on & on & on" but so,  If someone in the Biden Whitehouse likes to do the wake & bake thing, it's fair game.

I give you credit for being honest and straightforward. I'm not trying to pile on here... 

I have to refute the above  boldface section though: 
Trump was also given a lot of good advice in the wake of the 2020 election which he chose to ignore. He knew exactly what he was doing when he tried to subvert the results of the 2020 election.  

Did you know him & Steve Bannon had a 'Stop the Steal' movement planned for November of 2016 before he unexpectedly won? Let that sink in... they expected to lose in 2016, and planned in advance to claim voter fraud. When he eventually lost in 2020, they went w/ the 2016 plan: "Stop the steal". 

You're giving him too much credit, the man literally tried to overrule the constitution and for the first time in our nation's history, prevented a peaceful transfer of power. 


I say this as respectfully as possible: wake up. 

I appreciate your politeness, because if you read back just a little ways, you'll see that most of these people challenging me would love to give me the Paul Pelosi treatment.

I didn't see where anyone suggested you should have your skull crushed in like Paul Pelosi.(that's quite the analogy to bring up btw) 

I did however see where you claimed the Bidens were breaking laws every day, as well as some other curious statements. 

You may want to consider some more neutral news sources; it appears you're consuming a lot of far right nonsense based on some of the things you've said over the last few days. 

How do you know that your news sources are all on the up & up?  I listen to as much as I can from all angles, and then form my opinions and conclusions after I take it all in, and I'm open to the possibility that I might be wrong.  I drive truck 550 miles/day so I listen to different podcasts & everything I can find.  The Joe Biden thread is temporarily back to being the Ryan thread,
I listen to the Breakfast Club.(east coast Syndicated program) and I also listen to dosens of radio stations via unlimited streaming.   I listen to local AM Boston radio,  Chicago, Miami, St Louis, Milwaukee,  Phoenix,  LA, Seattle, and others.  Even the View.  I take it all in before I go spouting opinions and observations.  Im leaving things out because there's so many options to listen to.  And when I get sick of it all, I put on the tunes.
This forum coming from most (not all) here is a left wing eco chamber. Y'all are very cozy here.  Safe space.  So anyone with a different take on any matter no matter how big or small are very obviously not welcome here, not well liked no matter what they say while trying to find common ground,  or some clarity at the very least.
Usually  mocked & dismissed. And then they quit talking because there's no point.

I never feel safe here.  I read this forum for about five years before posting and my first few outings (big fight with HFD!!) were me being an ass but until others showed me that I too felt ganged up on.  I stepped back and saw they were correct.  In the beginning it felt like trying to sit at the popular table, but it really isn’t. 

Many of us agree with what PJ has taught us since 1991.  Being the same age as these guys I was definitely not as conscious or concerned about what those guys already knew.  

I don’t want you to feel bad, now i feel sad making you feel like that.  I’m truly sorry.  Stick around.  I promise you’ll learn so much about everything and especially yourself. 

haha, I remember that. and it's funny, my first experience on AMT was virtually the same. I was ignorant and got piled on and felt like an absolute idiot.  

I feel like we've all been around for a while now.  At some point we should do a meet up.. maybe St Paul or Chicago, catch a beer before a show. 

mrussel1 said:

mace1229 said:

cblock4life said:

mickeyrat said:

I love when you do this.  You are the epitome of walk softly and carry a big stick.  

This actually did nothing and completely ignored the whole conversation my spamming something pointless.

I’m just saying the news story with Trump posting Obamas address doesn’t add up to me.

All the headlines want to imply Trump posted the address to condone violence against them. But reading the actual story it doesn’t seem like he even posted the correct address, and gives no indication what the motive actually was. Could have asking how he affords such a big house and non violent at all. But so many just see the headline and are more than happy to jump to the conclusion that Trump was  people over to attack Obama.

A good response would be to show me the actually post that I said I couple find. That would prove me wrong if I am, not spamming useless headlines. But since he can’t, makes me believe I’m right even more.

So you don't want to just agree that he's stupid and irresponsible?  You think it was a perfectly legitimate thing for the former and potentially future president to do?  It's what you would expect of a leader?

mace1229 said:

mrussel1 said:

mace1229 said:

cblock4life said:

mickeyrat said:

I love when you do this.  You are the epitome of walk softly and carry a big stick.  

This actually did nothing and completely ignored the whole conversation my spamming something pointless.

I’m just saying the news story with Trump posting Obamas address doesn’t add up to me.

All the headlines want to imply Trump posted the address to condone violence against them. But reading the actual story it doesn’t seem like he even posted the correct address, and gives no indication what the motive actually was. Could have asking how he affords such a big house and non violent at all. But so many just see the headline and are more than happy to jump to the conclusion that Trump was  people over to attack Obama.

A good response would be to show me the actually post that I said I couple find. That would prove me wrong if I am, not spamming useless headlines. But since he can’t, makes me believe I’m right even more.

So you don't want to just agree that he's stupid and irresponsible?  You think it was a perfectly legitimate thing for the former and potentially future president to do?  It's what you would expect of a leader?

No, I agree with you. I think he has said some very irresponsible things before, and this could very well be another example. And if he did it, extremely irresponsible. All I’m saying is something is off. I tried reading more into it before commenting and found almost nothing on how it relates to Trump. It doesn’t even appear he posted the correct address, and the only reason this has even come up from what I can tell is they quoted the prosecutor as referring to a post trump claims was the address. There are people at every network who’s main job description is to follow trump and take screenshots of every post he makes. Kind of weird no one has a copy of this post to add to the story. I can’t recall that happening before. So I’m not saying Trump is a responsible person, I’m saying this is a story that makes me think the media or prosecution  has exaggerated what happened. When’s the last time you saw a story about trumps tweet but couldn’t find it? I’m questioning if this post ever even happened. Not because trump is such a good person, but because everyone is so eager to blame trump and not question it.

HughFreakingDillon said:

mrussel1 said:

mace1229 said:

mrussel1 said:

mace1229 said:

cblock4life said:

mickeyrat said:

I love when you do this.  You are the epitome of walk softly and carry a big stick.  

This actually did nothing and completely ignored the whole conversation my spamming something pointless.

I’m just saying the news story with Trump posting Obamas address doesn’t add up to me.

All the headlines want to imply Trump posted the address to condone violence against them. But reading the actual story it doesn’t seem like he even posted the correct address, and gives no indication what the motive actually was. Could have asking how he affords such a big house and non violent at all. But so many just see the headline and are more than happy to jump to the conclusion that Trump was  people over to attack Obama.

A good response would be to show me the actually post that I said I couple find. That would prove me wrong if I am, not spamming useless headlines. But since he can’t, makes me believe I’m right even more.

So you don't want to just agree that he's stupid and irresponsible?  You think it was a perfectly legitimate thing for the former and potentially future president to do?  It's what you would expect of a leader?

No, I agree with you. I think he has said some very irresponsible things before, and this could very well be another example. And if he did it, extremely irresponsible. All I’m saying is something is off. I tried reading more into it before commenting and found almost nothing on how it relates to Trump. It doesn’t even appear he posted the correct address, and the only reason this has even come up from what I can tell is they quoted the prosecutor as referring to a post trump claims was the address. There are people at every network who’s main job description is to follow trump and take screenshots of every post he makes. Kind of weird no one has a copy of this post to add to the story. I can’t recall that happening before. So I’m not saying Trump is a responsible person, I’m saying this is a story that makes me think the media or prosecution  has exaggerated what happened. When’s the last time you saw a story about trumps tweet but couldn’t find it? I’m questioning if this post ever even happened. Not because trump is such a good person, but because everyone is so eager to blame trump and not question it.

Several details of the arrest are stunning and disturbing, including the fact that Taranto posted the message “Got them surrounded!” above a Trump Truth Social post that included a news article revealing the address of the Obama home, as well as several other prominent Democratic figures.

https://www.mediaite.com/news/trump-post-revealing-obama-address-was-shared-by-jan-6-fugitive-hours-before-he-was-arrested-with-guns-near-obama-home/

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honestly, I think this is an important distinction that goes from malicious to plain out stupid and irresponsible. he linked a news article that contained addresses. that's stupid, but earlier claims were he "posted obama's address on truth social" which leads people to believe he posted the address in his tweet/truth himself, which he didn't. 

mickeyrat said:

https://twitter.com/svdate/status/1679159048225148928?t=VRUb_9x9nz1ezbMMkYB9aA&s=19