#46 President Joe Biden
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Doesn’t even come close to POOTWH’s love letters from Little Rocket Man. Not even close.mickeyrat said:09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;
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Or this great honor https://images.app.goo.gl/8YXck53rrzhuxfmd9Halifax2TheMax said:
Doesn’t even come close to POOTWH’s love letters from Little Rocket Man. Not even close.mickeyrat said:
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If I was a true deplorable, Why would I be wasting so much time answering the questions, & seeking common ground with you & others here? So personal? Yes you've been really rough on me and you don't know me well enough to make all your assumptions. Enjoy your cult is what came around and around. All the phobia labels and isms. You have not been fair to me at all. Some here like HFD have been at least approachable, you have not. You give horse collar tackles.Halifax2TheMax said:
You claimed I hated you. I don’t. You claimed I would come out of your phone and beat you. I can’t and wouldn’t. You claimed I called you every name in the book. I haven’t.RYME said:i
You have called me every name in the book, and said even if we agreed on some things, doesn't matter, not interested.Halifax2TheMax said:
No one has said any such thing.RYME said:
I appreciate your politeness, because if you read back just a little ways, you'll see that most of these people challenging me would love to give me the Paul Pelosi treatment.Merkin Baller said:
I give you credit for being honest and straightforward. I'm not trying to pile on here...RYME said:
I was kicked out of this forum probably a year and a half ago because someone was calling me a Confederate. That pissed me off a lot, so didn't hesitate to call that person a _______. And was kicked out. So how could I have commented on all Trump's crap here? I'm not gonna go back and back and back now.The Juggler said:
Trump's the frontrunner by a country mile in the current GOP primary. He will be Biden's opponent next year man. Why do you guys act like he doesn't matter anymore? lolRYME said:
Well this used to be the Joe Biden thread.The Juggler said:What I don't get is not the voting for him in '16. It's the being (rightfully) disgusted with him enough to sit out 2020....yet voicing absolutely no concern what so ever for anything he's being credibly accused of since. And, instead, coming on here and bitching and complaining about cocaine being found in the White House. That doesn't compute.
Trump has been out for 3+ years. I don't know who brought up Trump in this conversation?
I wish Trump would go away. I don't think there is any way he could win again. That's good right? He will probably win in the primaries because there are a lot of fools among us, and get his clock cleaned again in the general. The left wants him to get the nomination because he is clearly the easiest to beat.
What don't you get? I held my nose in 16, and by 2020, couldn't stand either one of them.
No matter which thread we're in, you've never expressed outrage over this guy who stole top secret government documents and refused to return them after being issued a subpoena...in addition to attempting to prevent the Biden administration from gaining power after they won the election. He represents the end to democracy as we know it yet you're here going on and on about minor Biden conspiracies. That's what I don't get. It's not the typical hold your nose and vote for the lesser of two evil thing. We are waaaay past that.
I didn't support Trump in 2020, therefore I'm not responsible for his crap! (He was given a lot of bad advice though from several of his top advisors on what could and should be done, pertaining to his handling of Jan 6th & trying to overturn the election) That doesn't excuse his actions. Repeat that does not excuse his demanding Mike Pence send it back to the states in question. He was told that if enough senators from the swing states in question would refuse to conferm the vote from the states in question because of irregularitie clames, that the vote would go back to the individual state houses and there state assemblies would hash it out. There was a word for this that escapes me. When they were going through this, that's when all the chaos at the capital started happening. They adjourned for a few hours. Came back and finished it.
I did vote in 2020 in local & state races, school board, & whatever referendums were on it, but I left the presidential vote blank.
I don't like Biden either, and since this is the Joe Biden thread, and the coke was the topic of the week last week, I made some comments, but I didn't go "on & on & on" but so, If someone in the Biden Whitehouse likes to do the wake & bake thing, it's fair game.
I have to refute the above boldface section though:
Trump was also given a lot of good advice in the wake of the 2020 election which he chose to ignore. He knew exactly what he was doing when he tried to subvert the results of the 2020 election.
Did you know him & Steve Bannon had a 'Stop the Steal' movement planned for November of 2016 before he unexpectedly won? Let that sink in... they expected to lose in 2016, and planned in advance to claim voter fraud. When he eventually lost in 2020, they went w/ the 2016 plan: "Stop the steal".
You're giving him too much credit, the man literally tried to overrule the constitution and for the first time in our nation's history, prevented a peaceful transfer of power.
I say this as respectfully as possible: wake up.
Verbally, same difference.
Stop taking everything so personal. I’m not interested in finding common ground with deplorables. If you identify as a deplorable, yes, I’m not interested. Do you identify as a deplorable?
I am not a leftist, but I am very liberal. There is a big difference between the two entities.
Other than Jeremy & Evenflow,
True Deplorables don't give a rip, & or don't even know who Pearl Jam is.Post edited by RYME on0 -
How do you know that your news sources are all on the up & up? I listen to as much as I can from all angles, and then form my opinions and conclusions after I take it all in, and I'm open to the possibility that I might be wrong. I drive truck 550 miles/day so I listen to different podcasts & everything I can find. The Joe Biden thread is temporarily back to being the Ryan thread,Merkin Baller said:
I didn't see where anyone suggested you should have your skull crushed in like Paul Pelosi.(that's quite the analogy to bring up btw)RYME said:
I appreciate your politeness, because if you read back just a little ways, you'll see that most of these people challenging me would love to give me the Paul Pelosi treatment.Merkin Baller said:
I give you credit for being honest and straightforward. I'm not trying to pile on here...RYME said:
I was kicked out of this forum probably a year and a half ago because someone was calling me a Confederate. That pissed me off a lot, so didn't hesitate to call that person a _______. And was kicked out. So how could I have commented on all Trump's crap here? I'm not gonna go back and back and back now.The Juggler said:
Trump's the frontrunner by a country mile in the current GOP primary. He will be Biden's opponent next year man. Why do you guys act like he doesn't matter anymore? lolRYME said:
Well this used to be the Joe Biden thread.The Juggler said:What I don't get is not the voting for him in '16. It's the being (rightfully) disgusted with him enough to sit out 2020....yet voicing absolutely no concern what so ever for anything he's being credibly accused of since. And, instead, coming on here and bitching and complaining about cocaine being found in the White House. That doesn't compute.
Trump has been out for 3+ years. I don't know who brought up Trump in this conversation?
I wish Trump would go away. I don't think there is any way he could win again. That's good right? He will probably win in the primaries because there are a lot of fools among us, and get his clock cleaned again in the general. The left wants him to get the nomination because he is clearly the easiest to beat.
What don't you get? I held my nose in 16, and by 2020, couldn't stand either one of them.
No matter which thread we're in, you've never expressed outrage over this guy who stole top secret government documents and refused to return them after being issued a subpoena...in addition to attempting to prevent the Biden administration from gaining power after they won the election. He represents the end to democracy as we know it yet you're here going on and on about minor Biden conspiracies. That's what I don't get. It's not the typical hold your nose and vote for the lesser of two evil thing. We are waaaay past that.
I didn't support Trump in 2020, therefore I'm not responsible for his crap! (He was given a lot of bad advice though from several of his top advisors on what could and should be done, pertaining to his handling of Jan 6th & trying to overturn the election) That doesn't excuse his actions. Repeat that does not excuse his demanding Mike Pence send it back to the states in question. He was told that if enough senators from the swing states in question would refuse to conferm the vote from the states in question because of irregularitie clames, that the vote would go back to the individual state houses and there state assemblies would hash it out. There was a word for this that escapes me. When they were going through this, that's when all the chaos at the capital started happening. They adjourned for a few hours. Came back and finished it.
I did vote in 2020 in local & state races, school board, & whatever referendums were on it, but I left the presidential vote blank.
I don't like Biden either, and since this is the Joe Biden thread, and the coke was the topic of the week last week, I made some comments, but I didn't go "on & on & on" but so, If someone in the Biden Whitehouse likes to do the wake & bake thing, it's fair game.
I have to refute the above boldface section though:
Trump was also given a lot of good advice in the wake of the 2020 election which he chose to ignore. He knew exactly what he was doing when he tried to subvert the results of the 2020 election.
Did you know him & Steve Bannon had a 'Stop the Steal' movement planned for November of 2016 before he unexpectedly won? Let that sink in... they expected to lose in 2016, and planned in advance to claim voter fraud. When he eventually lost in 2020, they went w/ the 2016 plan: "Stop the steal".
You're giving him too much credit, the man literally tried to overrule the constitution and for the first time in our nation's history, prevented a peaceful transfer of power.
I say this as respectfully as possible: wake up.
I did however see where you claimed the Bidens were breaking laws every day, as well as some other curious statements.
You may want to consider some more neutral news sources; it appears you're consuming a lot of far right nonsense based on some of the things you've said over the last few days.
I listen to the Breakfast Club.(east coast Syndicated program) and I also listen to dosens of radio stations via unlimited streaming. I listen to local AM Boston radio, Chicago, Miami, St Louis, Milwaukee, Phoenix, LA, Seattle, and others. Even the View. I take it all in before I go spouting opinions and observations. Im leaving things out because there's so many options to listen to. And when I get sick of it all, I put on the tunes.
This forum coming from most (not all) here is a left wing eco chamber. Y'all are very cozy here. Safe space. So anyone with a different take on any matter no matter how big or small are very obviously not welcome here, not well liked no matter what they say while trying to find common ground, or some clarity at the very least.
Usually mocked & dismissed. And then they quit talking because there's no point.Post edited by RYME on0 -
This echo chamber stuff is just nonsense. We all discuss/argue all the time. It just seems like we all agree on everything when a conservative chimes in because that’s where the rest of us have common ground against nonsense.By The Time They Figure Out What Went Wrong, We'll Be Sitting On A Beach, Earning Twenty Percent.0
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What's gonna happen when KAT or SEA read the latest in this thread:
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Have a great day, everybody.Post edited by Merkin Baller on0
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I don’t think you’re a “racist” I just think you’re in a place that we’ve already passed in our lives. I am a racist in recovery - 1/2 of the white folks are in this country. I’m willing to admit that. If I ever laughed at a racial or minority joke told by another in my young stupid life (my parents didn’t tolerate racism) that makes me a racist. I’ve taken it upon myself to really look at racism so I don’t repeat my mistakes. I was lucky to become “racism woke” in my early twenties for various reasons.RYME said:
I have many friends that are of color, local and abroad, ok, I just highlighted one of them, because of all those isms, phobias, & generalizations that are tossed around that I have nothing to do with.HughFreakingDillon said:
dude, I seriously doubt you are racist, but just an FYI, "I have a black friend" is the stereotypical response of a person who is. I'd caution against using that as your "I can't be racist" defense.RYME said:
Wel, I'm listening to The Why Store right now, bet you've never heard of them. They're an Indi band from Indiana, Check'hem out!! It's all good, 🍻 good evening.Halifax2TheMax said:
Yes, some of us knew what an incompetent boob POS POOTWH was and is. We’re lucky we survived those four years.RYME said:
So you chose the arm chopped off at the elbow.Halifax2TheMax said:
No sense of humour, you say? My compass is just fine. You may want to check yours. And sure you were, sure.RYME said:
I was being facetious to the other dude who said it was awesome that they found coke in the White House. , wake up Halifax!! You obviously have no sense of humor at all and no compas!!Halifax2TheMax said:And if you believe this, you just might be in a cult:
Yes it is awsome that the democrat mafia gangster crime family & co. live and work at the White House!! That's fantastic!! Iove it.
Fair enough. I respect you're decision.
No i did not vote for Trump in 2020. Was disgusted and sat it out. Y'all think I'm right wing.
Your damn wrong about me. I supported 3 things that Trump did and that's where it ended.
Y'all think I'm racist?
My best friend where I work, is black, his name is Willie, and he knows I'd jump in front of a train for him if need be. And my wife is from Lithuania.
I never heard those words About homophobe and xenophobia and the rest before Hillary's Basket of deplorable's rant that actually cost her the election after months of election analysis.
I don't live like that and never will so bleep off you judgementaliats who think they know people through disjointed computer conversations.
Im not savy enough to know the Stereotypical phrases, I guess, and if I didn't know that, I guess it doesn't mean anything. I have not read the handbook on this.
And to answer the other guy about Trump, build a wall & banning Muslims,,
There is no such thing as a political candidate that I agree with 100% of the time on everything. How can anyone agree 100% on everything? I try to go
60% - 40% on the issues, but it's difficult to even do that. Mabey there is 4 this I like about a guy and dislike the rest.
I don't know.Racists come in all colors, not just white. I’ve met people of color who wanted nothing to do with any white people.I’m glad you’re at least taking others opinions into account. It’s hard for us to see the ok part of trump-even you agree with that.And I didn’t call you a deplorable racist (my apologies because some think I did) I said your black friend comment is what racists say. I think you and HFD worked that out and that you see the difference and how words can be construed and misinterpreted.Think of it this way….if you and Willie (is that right?) were walking down the street and you ran into someone would you introduce Willie as your black friend? No you wouldn’t. And there have been, maybe still are, members of color on here that have indicated it’s useless and quit posting even though I encouraged them not to. It’s sad.0 -
RYME said:
How do you know that your news sources are all on the up & up? I listen to as much as I can from all angles, and then form my opinions and conclusions after I take it all in, and I'm open to the possibility that I might be wrong. I drive truck 550 miles/day so I listen to different podcasts & everything I can find. The Joe Biden thread is temporarily back to being the Ryan thread,Merkin Baller said:
I didn't see where anyone suggested you should have your skull crushed in like Paul Pelosi.(that's quite the analogy to bring up btw)RYME said:
I appreciate your politeness, because if you read back just a little ways, you'll see that most of these people challenging me would love to give me the Paul Pelosi treatment.Merkin Baller said:
I give you credit for being honest and straightforward. I'm not trying to pile on here...RYME said:
I was kicked out of this forum probably a year and a half ago because someone was calling me a Confederate. That pissed me off a lot, so didn't hesitate to call that person a _______. And was kicked out. So how could I have commented on all Trump's crap here? I'm not gonna go back and back and back now.The Juggler said:
Trump's the frontrunner by a country mile in the current GOP primary. He will be Biden's opponent next year man. Why do you guys act like he doesn't matter anymore? lolRYME said:
Well this used to be the Joe Biden thread.The Juggler said:What I don't get is not the voting for him in '16. It's the being (rightfully) disgusted with him enough to sit out 2020....yet voicing absolutely no concern what so ever for anything he's being credibly accused of since. And, instead, coming on here and bitching and complaining about cocaine being found in the White House. That doesn't compute.
Trump has been out for 3+ years. I don't know who brought up Trump in this conversation?
I wish Trump would go away. I don't think there is any way he could win again. That's good right? He will probably win in the primaries because there are a lot of fools among us, and get his clock cleaned again in the general. The left wants him to get the nomination because he is clearly the easiest to beat.
What don't you get? I held my nose in 16, and by 2020, couldn't stand either one of them.
No matter which thread we're in, you've never expressed outrage over this guy who stole top secret government documents and refused to return them after being issued a subpoena...in addition to attempting to prevent the Biden administration from gaining power after they won the election. He represents the end to democracy as we know it yet you're here going on and on about minor Biden conspiracies. That's what I don't get. It's not the typical hold your nose and vote for the lesser of two evil thing. We are waaaay past that.
I didn't support Trump in 2020, therefore I'm not responsible for his crap! (He was given a lot of bad advice though from several of his top advisors on what could and should be done, pertaining to his handling of Jan 6th & trying to overturn the election) That doesn't excuse his actions. Repeat that does not excuse his demanding Mike Pence send it back to the states in question. He was told that if enough senators from the swing states in question would refuse to conferm the vote from the states in question because of irregularitie clames, that the vote would go back to the individual state houses and there state assemblies would hash it out. There was a word for this that escapes me. When they were going through this, that's when all the chaos at the capital started happening. They adjourned for a few hours. Came back and finished it.
I did vote in 2020 in local & state races, school board, & whatever referendums were on it, but I left the presidential vote blank.
I don't like Biden either, and since this is the Joe Biden thread, and the coke was the topic of the week last week, I made some comments, but I didn't go "on & on & on" but so, If someone in the Biden Whitehouse likes to do the wake & bake thing, it's fair game.
I have to refute the above boldface section though:
Trump was also given a lot of good advice in the wake of the 2020 election which he chose to ignore. He knew exactly what he was doing when he tried to subvert the results of the 2020 election.
Did you know him & Steve Bannon had a 'Stop the Steal' movement planned for November of 2016 before he unexpectedly won? Let that sink in... they expected to lose in 2016, and planned in advance to claim voter fraud. When he eventually lost in 2020, they went w/ the 2016 plan: "Stop the steal".
You're giving him too much credit, the man literally tried to overrule the constitution and for the first time in our nation's history, prevented a peaceful transfer of power.
I say this as respectfully as possible: wake up.
I did however see where you claimed the Bidens were breaking laws every day, as well as some other curious statements.
You may want to consider some more neutral news sources; it appears you're consuming a lot of far right nonsense based on some of the things you've said over the last few days.
I listen to the Breakfast Club.(east coast Syndicated program) and I also listen to dosens of radio stations via unlimited streaming. I listen to local AM Boston radio, Chicago, Miami, St Louis, Milwaukee, Phoenix, LA, Seattle, and others. Even the View. I take it all in before I go spouting opinions and observations. Im leaving things out because there's so many options to listen to. And when I get sick of it all, I put on the tunes.
This forum coming from most (not all) here is a left wing eco chamber. Y'all are very cozy here. Safe space. So anyone with a different take on any matter no matter how big or small are very obviously not welcome here, not well liked no matter what they say while trying to find common ground, or some clarity at the very least.
Usually mocked & dismissed. And then they quit talking because there's no point.would recommend checking out these podcasts. The Bulwark, The Enemies List with Rick Wilson, Michael Steele Podcast, Fast Politics , LA Times has one as does The Washington post.AP app has listen to articles, BBC America and World are good for imo unbiased reporting.I drive 500ish miles on this new bid every night. Helps pass the time. and its educational too.Safe Trip driver.Post edited by mickeyrat on_____________________________________SIGNATURE________________________________________________
Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '140 -
mickeyrat said:RYME said:
How do you know that your news sources are all on the up & up? I listen to as much as I can from all angles, and then form my opinions and conclusions after I take it all in, and I'm open to the possibility that I might be wrong. I drive truck 550 miles/day so I listen to different podcasts & everything I can find. The Joe Biden thread is temporarily back to being the Ryan thread,Merkin Baller said:
I didn't see where anyone suggested you should have your skull crushed in like Paul Pelosi.(that's quite the analogy to bring up btw)RYME said:
I appreciate your politeness, because if you read back just a little ways, you'll see that most of these people challenging me would love to give me the Paul Pelosi treatment.Merkin Baller said:
I give you credit for being honest and straightforward. I'm not trying to pile on here...RYME said:
I was kicked out of this forum probably a year and a half ago because someone was calling me a Confederate. That pissed me off a lot, so didn't hesitate to call that person a _______. And was kicked out. So how could I have commented on all Trump's crap here? I'm not gonna go back and back and back now.The Juggler said:
Trump's the frontrunner by a country mile in the current GOP primary. He will be Biden's opponent next year man. Why do you guys act like he doesn't matter anymore? lolRYME said:
Well this used to be the Joe Biden thread.The Juggler said:What I don't get is not the voting for him in '16. It's the being (rightfully) disgusted with him enough to sit out 2020....yet voicing absolutely no concern what so ever for anything he's being credibly accused of since. And, instead, coming on here and bitching and complaining about cocaine being found in the White House. That doesn't compute.
Trump has been out for 3+ years. I don't know who brought up Trump in this conversation?
I wish Trump would go away. I don't think there is any way he could win again. That's good right? He will probably win in the primaries because there are a lot of fools among us, and get his clock cleaned again in the general. The left wants him to get the nomination because he is clearly the easiest to beat.
What don't you get? I held my nose in 16, and by 2020, couldn't stand either one of them.
No matter which thread we're in, you've never expressed outrage over this guy who stole top secret government documents and refused to return them after being issued a subpoena...in addition to attempting to prevent the Biden administration from gaining power after they won the election. He represents the end to democracy as we know it yet you're here going on and on about minor Biden conspiracies. That's what I don't get. It's not the typical hold your nose and vote for the lesser of two evil thing. We are waaaay past that.
I didn't support Trump in 2020, therefore I'm not responsible for his crap! (He was given a lot of bad advice though from several of his top advisors on what could and should be done, pertaining to his handling of Jan 6th & trying to overturn the election) That doesn't excuse his actions. Repeat that does not excuse his demanding Mike Pence send it back to the states in question. He was told that if enough senators from the swing states in question would refuse to conferm the vote from the states in question because of irregularitie clames, that the vote would go back to the individual state houses and there state assemblies would hash it out. There was a word for this that escapes me. When they were going through this, that's when all the chaos at the capital started happening. They adjourned for a few hours. Came back and finished it.
I did vote in 2020 in local & state races, school board, & whatever referendums were on it, but I left the presidential vote blank.
I don't like Biden either, and since this is the Joe Biden thread, and the coke was the topic of the week last week, I made some comments, but I didn't go "on & on & on" but so, If someone in the Biden Whitehouse likes to do the wake & bake thing, it's fair game.
I have to refute the above boldface section though:
Trump was also given a lot of good advice in the wake of the 2020 election which he chose to ignore. He knew exactly what he was doing when he tried to subvert the results of the 2020 election.
Did you know him & Steve Bannon had a 'Stop the Steal' movement planned for November of 2016 before he unexpectedly won? Let that sink in... they expected to lose in 2016, and planned in advance to claim voter fraud. When he eventually lost in 2020, they went w/ the 2016 plan: "Stop the steal".
You're giving him too much credit, the man literally tried to overrule the constitution and for the first time in our nation's history, prevented a peaceful transfer of power.
I say this as respectfully as possible: wake up.
I did however see where you claimed the Bidens were breaking laws every day, as well as some other curious statements.
You may want to consider some more neutral news sources; it appears you're consuming a lot of far right nonsense based on some of the things you've said over the last few days.
I listen to the Breakfast Club.(east coast Syndicated program) and I also listen to dosens of radio stations via unlimited streaming. I listen to local AM Boston radio, Chicago, Miami, St Louis, Milwaukee, Phoenix, LA, Seattle, and others. Even the View. I take it all in before I go spouting opinions and observations. Im leaving things out because there's so many options to listen to. And when I get sick of it all, I put on the tunes.
This forum coming from most (not all) here is a left wing eco chamber. Y'all are very cozy here. Safe space. So anyone with a different take on any matter no matter how big or small are very obviously not welcome here, not well liked no matter what they say while trying to find common ground, or some clarity at the very least.
Usually mocked & dismissed. And then they quit talking because there's no point.would recommend checking out these podcasts. The Bulwark, The Enemies List with Rick Wilson, Michael Steele Podcast, Fast Politics , LA Times has one as does The Washington post.AP app has listen to articles, BBC America and World are good for imo unbiased reporting.I drive 500ish miles on this new bid every night. Helps pass the time. and its educational too.Safe Trip driver.
That's a good list of news sources.
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Merkin Baller said:mickeyrat said:RYME said:
How do you know that your news sources are all on the up & up? I listen to as much as I can from all angles, and then form my opinions and conclusions after I take it all in, and I'm open to the possibility that I might be wrong. I drive truck 550 miles/day so I listen to different podcasts & everything I can find. The Joe Biden thread is temporarily back to being the Ryan thread,Merkin Baller said:
I didn't see where anyone suggested you should have your skull crushed in like Paul Pelosi.(that's quite the analogy to bring up btw)RYME said:
I appreciate your politeness, because if you read back just a little ways, you'll see that most of these people challenging me would love to give me the Paul Pelosi treatment.Merkin Baller said:
I give you credit for being honest and straightforward. I'm not trying to pile on here...RYME said:
I was kicked out of this forum probably a year and a half ago because someone was calling me a Confederate. That pissed me off a lot, so didn't hesitate to call that person a _______. And was kicked out. So how could I have commented on all Trump's crap here? I'm not gonna go back and back and back now.The Juggler said:
Trump's the frontrunner by a country mile in the current GOP primary. He will be Biden's opponent next year man. Why do you guys act like he doesn't matter anymore? lolRYME said:
Well this used to be the Joe Biden thread.The Juggler said:What I don't get is not the voting for him in '16. It's the being (rightfully) disgusted with him enough to sit out 2020....yet voicing absolutely no concern what so ever for anything he's being credibly accused of since. And, instead, coming on here and bitching and complaining about cocaine being found in the White House. That doesn't compute.
Trump has been out for 3+ years. I don't know who brought up Trump in this conversation?
I wish Trump would go away. I don't think there is any way he could win again. That's good right? He will probably win in the primaries because there are a lot of fools among us, and get his clock cleaned again in the general. The left wants him to get the nomination because he is clearly the easiest to beat.
What don't you get? I held my nose in 16, and by 2020, couldn't stand either one of them.
No matter which thread we're in, you've never expressed outrage over this guy who stole top secret government documents and refused to return them after being issued a subpoena...in addition to attempting to prevent the Biden administration from gaining power after they won the election. He represents the end to democracy as we know it yet you're here going on and on about minor Biden conspiracies. That's what I don't get. It's not the typical hold your nose and vote for the lesser of two evil thing. We are waaaay past that.
I didn't support Trump in 2020, therefore I'm not responsible for his crap! (He was given a lot of bad advice though from several of his top advisors on what could and should be done, pertaining to his handling of Jan 6th & trying to overturn the election) That doesn't excuse his actions. Repeat that does not excuse his demanding Mike Pence send it back to the states in question. He was told that if enough senators from the swing states in question would refuse to conferm the vote from the states in question because of irregularitie clames, that the vote would go back to the individual state houses and there state assemblies would hash it out. There was a word for this that escapes me. When they were going through this, that's when all the chaos at the capital started happening. They adjourned for a few hours. Came back and finished it.
I did vote in 2020 in local & state races, school board, & whatever referendums were on it, but I left the presidential vote blank.
I don't like Biden either, and since this is the Joe Biden thread, and the coke was the topic of the week last week, I made some comments, but I didn't go "on & on & on" but so, If someone in the Biden Whitehouse likes to do the wake & bake thing, it's fair game.
I have to refute the above boldface section though:
Trump was also given a lot of good advice in the wake of the 2020 election which he chose to ignore. He knew exactly what he was doing when he tried to subvert the results of the 2020 election.
Did you know him & Steve Bannon had a 'Stop the Steal' movement planned for November of 2016 before he unexpectedly won? Let that sink in... they expected to lose in 2016, and planned in advance to claim voter fraud. When he eventually lost in 2020, they went w/ the 2016 plan: "Stop the steal".
You're giving him too much credit, the man literally tried to overrule the constitution and for the first time in our nation's history, prevented a peaceful transfer of power.
I say this as respectfully as possible: wake up.
I did however see where you claimed the Bidens were breaking laws every day, as well as some other curious statements.
You may want to consider some more neutral news sources; it appears you're consuming a lot of far right nonsense based on some of the things you've said over the last few days.
I listen to the Breakfast Club.(east coast Syndicated program) and I also listen to dosens of radio stations via unlimited streaming. I listen to local AM Boston radio, Chicago, Miami, St Louis, Milwaukee, Phoenix, LA, Seattle, and others. Even the View. I take it all in before I go spouting opinions and observations. Im leaving things out because there's so many options to listen to. And when I get sick of it all, I put on the tunes.
This forum coming from most (not all) here is a left wing eco chamber. Y'all are very cozy here. Safe space. So anyone with a different take on any matter no matter how big or small are very obviously not welcome here, not well liked no matter what they say while trying to find common ground, or some clarity at the very least.
Usually mocked & dismissed. And then they quit talking because there's no point.would recommend checking out these podcasts. The Bulwark, The Enemies List with Rick Wilson, Michael Steele Podcast, Fast Politics , LA Times has one as does The Washington post.AP app has listen to articles, BBC America and World are good for imo unbiased reporting.I drive 500ish miles on this new bid every night. Helps pass the time. and its educational too.Safe Trip driver.
That's a good list of news sources.
NYT has several but none are devoted to the front section...Al Jazeera would be another good one to visit. they have several podcasts. Gives a middle east perspective and obviously heavier emphasis on that region and how events elsewhere affect that area.Reuters is a good unbiased source given its a wire service like AP_____________________________________SIGNATURE________________________________________________
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https://www.cnbc.com/2023/07/12/inflation-rose-just-0point2percent-in-june-less-than-expected-as-consumers-get-a-break-from-price-increases.html
Inflation rose just 0.2% in June, less than expected as consumers get a break from price increases
PUBLISHED WED, JUL 12 20238:31 AM EDTUPDATED 26 MIN AGOSHAREShare Article via FacebookShare Article via TwitterShare Article via LinkedInShare Article via EmailWATCH NOWVIDEO06:18Inflation rose just 0.2% in June, less than expected as consumers get a break from price increasesInflation fell to its lowest annual rate in more than two years during June, the product both of some deceleration in costs and easy comparisons against a time when price increases were running at a more than 40-year high.
The consumer price index increased 3% from a year ago, which is the lowest level since March 2021. On a monthly basis, the index, which measures a broad swath of prices for goods and services, rose 0.2%.
That compared to Dow Jones estimates for respective increases of 3.1% and 0.3%.
Stripping out volatile food and energy prices, core CPI rose 4.8% from a year ago and 0.2% on a monthly basis. Consensus estimates expected respective increases of 5% and 0.3%.
In sum, the numbers could give the Federal Reserve some breathing room as it looks to bring down inflation that was running around a 9% annual rate at this time in 2022, the highest since November 1981.
“There has been significant progress made on the inflation front, and today’s report confirmed that while most of the country is dealing with hotter temperatures outside, inflation is finally cooling,” said George Mateyo, chief investment officer at Key Private Bank. “The Fed will embrace this report as validation that their policies are having the desired effect – inflation has fallen while growth has not yet stalled.”
However, central bank policymakers tend to look more at core inflation, which is still running well above the Fed’s 2% annual target. Mateyo said the report is unlikely to stop the central bank from raising rates again later this month.
Fed officials expect the inflation rate to continue falling, particularly as costs ease for shelter, which makes up about one-third of the weighting in the CPI. However, the shelter index rose 0.4% last month and was up 7.8% on an annual basis. That monthly gain accounted for about 70% of the increase in headline CPI, the Bureau of Labor Statistics said.
“Housing costs, which account for a large share of the inflation picture, are not coming down meaningfully,” said Lisa Sturtevant, chief economist at Bright MLS. “Because rates had been pushed so low by the Fed during the pandemic and then increased so quickly, the Federal Reserve’s rate increases not only reduced housing demand — as intended — but also severely limited supply by locking homeowners into homes they would have otherwise listed for sale.”
Wall Street reacted positively to the report, with futures tied to the Dow Jones Industrial Average up nearly 200 points. Treasury yields were down across the board.
Traders are still pricing in a strong possibility that the Fed will enact a quarter percentage point rate hike when it meets July 25-26. However, market pricing is pointing towards that being the last increase as officials pause to allow the series of hikes to work their way through the economy.
The muted increase for the headline CPI came even though energy prices increased 0.6% for the month. However, the energy index decreased 16.7% from a year ago, a time when gasoline prices at the pump were running around $5 a gallon.
Food prices increased just 0.1% on the month while used vehicle prices, a primary source for the inflation surge in the early part of 2022, declined 0.5%.
Airline fares fell 3% on the month and now are down 8.1% on an annual basis.
The easing in the CPI helped boost worker paychecks: Real average hourly earnings, adjusted for inflation rose 0.2% from May to June and increased 1.2% on a year-over-year basis. During the inflation surge that peaked last June, worker wages had run consistently behind the cost of living increases.
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Agreed on AJ & Reuters. NYT has been a little suspect in recent years, at least the editorial section, but I do believe most of the reporting is well sourced.mickeyrat said:Merkin Baller said:mickeyrat said:RYME said:
How do you know that your news sources are all on the up & up? I listen to as much as I can from all angles, and then form my opinions and conclusions after I take it all in, and I'm open to the possibility that I might be wrong. I drive truck 550 miles/day so I listen to different podcasts & everything I can find. The Joe Biden thread is temporarily back to being the Ryan thread,Merkin Baller said:
I didn't see where anyone suggested you should have your skull crushed in like Paul Pelosi.(that's quite the analogy to bring up btw)RYME said:
I appreciate your politeness, because if you read back just a little ways, you'll see that most of these people challenging me would love to give me the Paul Pelosi treatment.Merkin Baller said:
I give you credit for being honest and straightforward. I'm not trying to pile on here...RYME said:
I was kicked out of this forum probably a year and a half ago because someone was calling me a Confederate. That pissed me off a lot, so didn't hesitate to call that person a _______. And was kicked out. So how could I have commented on all Trump's crap here? I'm not gonna go back and back and back now.The Juggler said:
Trump's the frontrunner by a country mile in the current GOP primary. He will be Biden's opponent next year man. Why do you guys act like he doesn't matter anymore? lolRYME said:
Well this used to be the Joe Biden thread.The Juggler said:What I don't get is not the voting for him in '16. It's the being (rightfully) disgusted with him enough to sit out 2020....yet voicing absolutely no concern what so ever for anything he's being credibly accused of since. And, instead, coming on here and bitching and complaining about cocaine being found in the White House. That doesn't compute.
Trump has been out for 3+ years. I don't know who brought up Trump in this conversation?
I wish Trump would go away. I don't think there is any way he could win again. That's good right? He will probably win in the primaries because there are a lot of fools among us, and get his clock cleaned again in the general. The left wants him to get the nomination because he is clearly the easiest to beat.
What don't you get? I held my nose in 16, and by 2020, couldn't stand either one of them.
No matter which thread we're in, you've never expressed outrage over this guy who stole top secret government documents and refused to return them after being issued a subpoena...in addition to attempting to prevent the Biden administration from gaining power after they won the election. He represents the end to democracy as we know it yet you're here going on and on about minor Biden conspiracies. That's what I don't get. It's not the typical hold your nose and vote for the lesser of two evil thing. We are waaaay past that.
I didn't support Trump in 2020, therefore I'm not responsible for his crap! (He was given a lot of bad advice though from several of his top advisors on what could and should be done, pertaining to his handling of Jan 6th & trying to overturn the election) That doesn't excuse his actions. Repeat that does not excuse his demanding Mike Pence send it back to the states in question. He was told that if enough senators from the swing states in question would refuse to conferm the vote from the states in question because of irregularitie clames, that the vote would go back to the individual state houses and there state assemblies would hash it out. There was a word for this that escapes me. When they were going through this, that's when all the chaos at the capital started happening. They adjourned for a few hours. Came back and finished it.
I did vote in 2020 in local & state races, school board, & whatever referendums were on it, but I left the presidential vote blank.
I don't like Biden either, and since this is the Joe Biden thread, and the coke was the topic of the week last week, I made some comments, but I didn't go "on & on & on" but so, If someone in the Biden Whitehouse likes to do the wake & bake thing, it's fair game.
I have to refute the above boldface section though:
Trump was also given a lot of good advice in the wake of the 2020 election which he chose to ignore. He knew exactly what he was doing when he tried to subvert the results of the 2020 election.
Did you know him & Steve Bannon had a 'Stop the Steal' movement planned for November of 2016 before he unexpectedly won? Let that sink in... they expected to lose in 2016, and planned in advance to claim voter fraud. When he eventually lost in 2020, they went w/ the 2016 plan: "Stop the steal".
You're giving him too much credit, the man literally tried to overrule the constitution and for the first time in our nation's history, prevented a peaceful transfer of power.
I say this as respectfully as possible: wake up.
I did however see where you claimed the Bidens were breaking laws every day, as well as some other curious statements.
You may want to consider some more neutral news sources; it appears you're consuming a lot of far right nonsense based on some of the things you've said over the last few days.
I listen to the Breakfast Club.(east coast Syndicated program) and I also listen to dosens of radio stations via unlimited streaming. I listen to local AM Boston radio, Chicago, Miami, St Louis, Milwaukee, Phoenix, LA, Seattle, and others. Even the View. I take it all in before I go spouting opinions and observations. Im leaving things out because there's so many options to listen to. And when I get sick of it all, I put on the tunes.
This forum coming from most (not all) here is a left wing eco chamber. Y'all are very cozy here. Safe space. So anyone with a different take on any matter no matter how big or small are very obviously not welcome here, not well liked no matter what they say while trying to find common ground, or some clarity at the very least.
Usually mocked & dismissed. And then they quit talking because there's no point.would recommend checking out these podcasts. The Bulwark, The Enemies List with Rick Wilson, Michael Steele Podcast, Fast Politics , LA Times has one as does The Washington post.AP app has listen to articles, BBC America and World are good for imo unbiased reporting.I drive 500ish miles on this new bid every night. Helps pass the time. and its educational too.Safe Trip driver.
That's a good list of news sources.
NYT has several but none are devoted to the front section...Al Jazeera would be another good one to visit. they have several podcasts. Gives a middle east perspective and obviously heavier emphasis on that region and how events elsewhere affect that area.Reuters is a good unbiased source given its a wire service like AP
I like WSJ as well (again,,, not the editorial side) as it presents a conservative angle as compared to the WaPo's liberal bias.0 -
Merkin Baller said:
Agreed on AJ & Reuters. NYT has been a little suspect in recent years, at least the editorial section, but I do believe most of the reporting is well sourced.mickeyrat said:Merkin Baller said:mickeyrat said:RYME said:
How do you know that your news sources are all on the up & up? I listen to as much as I can from all angles, and then form my opinions and conclusions after I take it all in, and I'm open to the possibility that I might be wrong. I drive truck 550 miles/day so I listen to different podcasts & everything I can find. The Joe Biden thread is temporarily back to being the Ryan thread,Merkin Baller said:
I didn't see where anyone suggested you should have your skull crushed in like Paul Pelosi.(that's quite the analogy to bring up btw)RYME said:
I appreciate your politeness, because if you read back just a little ways, you'll see that most of these people challenging me would love to give me the Paul Pelosi treatment.Merkin Baller said:
I give you credit for being honest and straightforward. I'm not trying to pile on here...RYME said:
I was kicked out of this forum probably a year and a half ago because someone was calling me a Confederate. That pissed me off a lot, so didn't hesitate to call that person a _______. And was kicked out. So how could I have commented on all Trump's crap here? I'm not gonna go back and back and back now.The Juggler said:
Trump's the frontrunner by a country mile in the current GOP primary. He will be Biden's opponent next year man. Why do you guys act like he doesn't matter anymore? lolRYME said:
Well this used to be the Joe Biden thread.The Juggler said:What I don't get is not the voting for him in '16. It's the being (rightfully) disgusted with him enough to sit out 2020....yet voicing absolutely no concern what so ever for anything he's being credibly accused of since. And, instead, coming on here and bitching and complaining about cocaine being found in the White House. That doesn't compute.
Trump has been out for 3+ years. I don't know who brought up Trump in this conversation?
I wish Trump would go away. I don't think there is any way he could win again. That's good right? He will probably win in the primaries because there are a lot of fools among us, and get his clock cleaned again in the general. The left wants him to get the nomination because he is clearly the easiest to beat.
What don't you get? I held my nose in 16, and by 2020, couldn't stand either one of them.
No matter which thread we're in, you've never expressed outrage over this guy who stole top secret government documents and refused to return them after being issued a subpoena...in addition to attempting to prevent the Biden administration from gaining power after they won the election. He represents the end to democracy as we know it yet you're here going on and on about minor Biden conspiracies. That's what I don't get. It's not the typical hold your nose and vote for the lesser of two evil thing. We are waaaay past that.
I didn't support Trump in 2020, therefore I'm not responsible for his crap! (He was given a lot of bad advice though from several of his top advisors on what could and should be done, pertaining to his handling of Jan 6th & trying to overturn the election) That doesn't excuse his actions. Repeat that does not excuse his demanding Mike Pence send it back to the states in question. He was told that if enough senators from the swing states in question would refuse to conferm the vote from the states in question because of irregularitie clames, that the vote would go back to the individual state houses and there state assemblies would hash it out. There was a word for this that escapes me. When they were going through this, that's when all the chaos at the capital started happening. They adjourned for a few hours. Came back and finished it.
I did vote in 2020 in local & state races, school board, & whatever referendums were on it, but I left the presidential vote blank.
I don't like Biden either, and since this is the Joe Biden thread, and the coke was the topic of the week last week, I made some comments, but I didn't go "on & on & on" but so, If someone in the Biden Whitehouse likes to do the wake & bake thing, it's fair game.
I have to refute the above boldface section though:
Trump was also given a lot of good advice in the wake of the 2020 election which he chose to ignore. He knew exactly what he was doing when he tried to subvert the results of the 2020 election.
Did you know him & Steve Bannon had a 'Stop the Steal' movement planned for November of 2016 before he unexpectedly won? Let that sink in... they expected to lose in 2016, and planned in advance to claim voter fraud. When he eventually lost in 2020, they went w/ the 2016 plan: "Stop the steal".
You're giving him too much credit, the man literally tried to overrule the constitution and for the first time in our nation's history, prevented a peaceful transfer of power.
I say this as respectfully as possible: wake up.
I did however see where you claimed the Bidens were breaking laws every day, as well as some other curious statements.
You may want to consider some more neutral news sources; it appears you're consuming a lot of far right nonsense based on some of the things you've said over the last few days.
I listen to the Breakfast Club.(east coast Syndicated program) and I also listen to dosens of radio stations via unlimited streaming. I listen to local AM Boston radio, Chicago, Miami, St Louis, Milwaukee, Phoenix, LA, Seattle, and others. Even the View. I take it all in before I go spouting opinions and observations. Im leaving things out because there's so many options to listen to. And when I get sick of it all, I put on the tunes.
This forum coming from most (not all) here is a left wing eco chamber. Y'all are very cozy here. Safe space. So anyone with a different take on any matter no matter how big or small are very obviously not welcome here, not well liked no matter what they say while trying to find common ground, or some clarity at the very least.
Usually mocked & dismissed. And then they quit talking because there's no point.would recommend checking out these podcasts. The Bulwark, The Enemies List with Rick Wilson, Michael Steele Podcast, Fast Politics , LA Times has one as does The Washington post.AP app has listen to articles, BBC America and World are good for imo unbiased reporting.I drive 500ish miles on this new bid every night. Helps pass the time. and its educational too.Safe Trip driver.
That's a good list of news sources.
NYT has several but none are devoted to the front section...Al Jazeera would be another good one to visit. they have several podcasts. Gives a middle east perspective and obviously heavier emphasis on that region and how events elsewhere affect that area.Reuters is a good unbiased source given its a wire service like AP
I like WSJ as well (again,,, not the editorial side) as it presents a conservative angle as compared to the WaPo's liberal bias.
paywall, prevents me from accessing.... not giving rupert any money.....
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you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
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mickeyrat said:RYME said:
How do you know that your news sources are all on the up & up? I listen to as much as I can from all angles, and then form my opinions and conclusions after I take it all in, and I'm open to the possibility that I might be wrong. I drive truck 550 miles/day so I listen to different podcasts & everything I can find. The Joe Biden thread is temporarily back to being the Ryan thread,Merkin Baller said:
I didn't see where anyone suggested you should have your skull crushed in like Paul Pelosi.(that's quite the analogy to bring up btw)RYME said:
I appreciate your politeness, because if you read back just a little ways, you'll see that most of these people challenging me would love to give me the Paul Pelosi treatment.Merkin Baller said:
I give you credit for being honest and straightforward. I'm not trying to pile on here...RYME said:
I was kicked out of this forum probably a year and a half ago because someone was calling me a Confederate. That pissed me off a lot, so didn't hesitate to call that person a _______. And was kicked out. So how could I have commented on all Trump's crap here? I'm not gonna go back and back and back now.The Juggler said:
Trump's the frontrunner by a country mile in the current GOP primary. He will be Biden's opponent next year man. Why do you guys act like he doesn't matter anymore? lolRYME said:
Well this used to be the Joe Biden thread.The Juggler said:What I don't get is not the voting for him in '16. It's the being (rightfully) disgusted with him enough to sit out 2020....yet voicing absolutely no concern what so ever for anything he's being credibly accused of since. And, instead, coming on here and bitching and complaining about cocaine being found in the White House. That doesn't compute.
Trump has been out for 3+ years. I don't know who brought up Trump in this conversation?
I wish Trump would go away. I don't think there is any way he could win again. That's good right? He will probably win in the primaries because there are a lot of fools among us, and get his clock cleaned again in the general. The left wants him to get the nomination because he is clearly the easiest to beat.
What don't you get? I held my nose in 16, and by 2020, couldn't stand either one of them.
No matter which thread we're in, you've never expressed outrage over this guy who stole top secret government documents and refused to return them after being issued a subpoena...in addition to attempting to prevent the Biden administration from gaining power after they won the election. He represents the end to democracy as we know it yet you're here going on and on about minor Biden conspiracies. That's what I don't get. It's not the typical hold your nose and vote for the lesser of two evil thing. We are waaaay past that.
I didn't support Trump in 2020, therefore I'm not responsible for his crap! (He was given a lot of bad advice though from several of his top advisors on what could and should be done, pertaining to his handling of Jan 6th & trying to overturn the election) That doesn't excuse his actions. Repeat that does not excuse his demanding Mike Pence send it back to the states in question. He was told that if enough senators from the swing states in question would refuse to conferm the vote from the states in question because of irregularitie clames, that the vote would go back to the individual state houses and there state assemblies would hash it out. There was a word for this that escapes me. When they were going through this, that's when all the chaos at the capital started happening. They adjourned for a few hours. Came back and finished it.
I did vote in 2020 in local & state races, school board, & whatever referendums were on it, but I left the presidential vote blank.
I don't like Biden either, and since this is the Joe Biden thread, and the coke was the topic of the week last week, I made some comments, but I didn't go "on & on & on" but so, If someone in the Biden Whitehouse likes to do the wake & bake thing, it's fair game.
I have to refute the above boldface section though:
Trump was also given a lot of good advice in the wake of the 2020 election which he chose to ignore. He knew exactly what he was doing when he tried to subvert the results of the 2020 election.
Did you know him & Steve Bannon had a 'Stop the Steal' movement planned for November of 2016 before he unexpectedly won? Let that sink in... they expected to lose in 2016, and planned in advance to claim voter fraud. When he eventually lost in 2020, they went w/ the 2016 plan: "Stop the steal".
You're giving him too much credit, the man literally tried to overrule the constitution and for the first time in our nation's history, prevented a peaceful transfer of power.
I say this as respectfully as possible: wake up.
I did however see where you claimed the Bidens were breaking laws every day, as well as some other curious statements.
You may want to consider some more neutral news sources; it appears you're consuming a lot of far right nonsense based on some of the things you've said over the last few days.
I listen to the Breakfast Club.(east coast Syndicated program) and I also listen to dosens of radio stations via unlimited streaming. I listen to local AM Boston radio, Chicago, Miami, St Louis, Milwaukee, Phoenix, LA, Seattle, and others. Even the View. I take it all in before I go spouting opinions and observations. Im leaving things out because there's so many options to listen to. And when I get sick of it all, I put on the tunes.
This forum coming from most (not all) here is a left wing eco chamber. Y'all are very cozy here. Safe space. So anyone with a different take on any matter no matter how big or small are very obviously not welcome here, not well liked no matter what they say while trying to find common ground, or some clarity at the very least.
Usually mocked & dismissed. And then they quit talking because there's no point.would recommend checking out these podcasts. The Bulwark, The Enemies List with Rick Wilson, Michael Steele Podcast, Fast Politics , LA Times has one as does The Washington post.AP app has listen to articles, BBC America and World are good for imo unbiased reporting.I drive 500ish miles on this new bid every night. Helps pass the time. and its educational too.Safe Trip driver.I love The Bulwark! I'm a proud subscriber. I found it when I wanted to leave the Facebook echo chamber. I hoped there still were some principled conservatives out there -- I'm pretty center/ center-left, and I wanted to challenge my assumptions without listening to the Fox News Hour of Hate, etc. The podcasts keep me company when I'm lifting, the writing is solid, and it's a good community of readers/ listeners -- people are strongly encouraged to behave themselves, and they generally do. ETA: I'm a big Will Saletan fangirl, and I was psyched when they brought him on board!I should check out Michael Steele's podcast; he's the pundit I'd most like to have a beer with, LOL.Post edited by curmudgeoness onAll those who seek to destroy the liberties of a democratic nation ought to know that war is the surest and shortest means to accomplish it.0 -
I never feel safe here. I read this forum for about five years before posting and my first few outings (big fight with HFD!!) were me being an ass but until others showed me that I too felt ganged up on. I stepped back and saw they were correct. In the beginning it felt like trying to sit at the popular table, but it really isn’t.RYME said:
How do you know that your news sources are all on the up & up? I listen to as much as I can from all angles, and then form my opinions and conclusions after I take it all in, and I'm open to the possibility that I might be wrong. I drive truck 550 miles/day so I listen to different podcasts & everything I can find. The Joe Biden thread is temporarily back to being the Ryan thread,Merkin Baller said:
I didn't see where anyone suggested you should have your skull crushed in like Paul Pelosi.(that's quite the analogy to bring up btw)RYME said:
I appreciate your politeness, because if you read back just a little ways, you'll see that most of these people challenging me would love to give me the Paul Pelosi treatment.Merkin Baller said:
I give you credit for being honest and straightforward. I'm not trying to pile on here...RYME said:
I was kicked out of this forum probably a year and a half ago because someone was calling me a Confederate. That pissed me off a lot, so didn't hesitate to call that person a _______. And was kicked out. So how could I have commented on all Trump's crap here? I'm not gonna go back and back and back now.The Juggler said:
Trump's the frontrunner by a country mile in the current GOP primary. He will be Biden's opponent next year man. Why do you guys act like he doesn't matter anymore? lolRYME said:
Well this used to be the Joe Biden thread.The Juggler said:What I don't get is not the voting for him in '16. It's the being (rightfully) disgusted with him enough to sit out 2020....yet voicing absolutely no concern what so ever for anything he's being credibly accused of since. And, instead, coming on here and bitching and complaining about cocaine being found in the White House. That doesn't compute.
Trump has been out for 3+ years. I don't know who brought up Trump in this conversation?
I wish Trump would go away. I don't think there is any way he could win again. That's good right? He will probably win in the primaries because there are a lot of fools among us, and get his clock cleaned again in the general. The left wants him to get the nomination because he is clearly the easiest to beat.
What don't you get? I held my nose in 16, and by 2020, couldn't stand either one of them.
No matter which thread we're in, you've never expressed outrage over this guy who stole top secret government documents and refused to return them after being issued a subpoena...in addition to attempting to prevent the Biden administration from gaining power after they won the election. He represents the end to democracy as we know it yet you're here going on and on about minor Biden conspiracies. That's what I don't get. It's not the typical hold your nose and vote for the lesser of two evil thing. We are waaaay past that.
I didn't support Trump in 2020, therefore I'm not responsible for his crap! (He was given a lot of bad advice though from several of his top advisors on what could and should be done, pertaining to his handling of Jan 6th & trying to overturn the election) That doesn't excuse his actions. Repeat that does not excuse his demanding Mike Pence send it back to the states in question. He was told that if enough senators from the swing states in question would refuse to conferm the vote from the states in question because of irregularitie clames, that the vote would go back to the individual state houses and there state assemblies would hash it out. There was a word for this that escapes me. When they were going through this, that's when all the chaos at the capital started happening. They adjourned for a few hours. Came back and finished it.
I did vote in 2020 in local & state races, school board, & whatever referendums were on it, but I left the presidential vote blank.
I don't like Biden either, and since this is the Joe Biden thread, and the coke was the topic of the week last week, I made some comments, but I didn't go "on & on & on" but so, If someone in the Biden Whitehouse likes to do the wake & bake thing, it's fair game.
I have to refute the above boldface section though:
Trump was also given a lot of good advice in the wake of the 2020 election which he chose to ignore. He knew exactly what he was doing when he tried to subvert the results of the 2020 election.
Did you know him & Steve Bannon had a 'Stop the Steal' movement planned for November of 2016 before he unexpectedly won? Let that sink in... they expected to lose in 2016, and planned in advance to claim voter fraud. When he eventually lost in 2020, they went w/ the 2016 plan: "Stop the steal".
You're giving him too much credit, the man literally tried to overrule the constitution and for the first time in our nation's history, prevented a peaceful transfer of power.
I say this as respectfully as possible: wake up.
I did however see where you claimed the Bidens were breaking laws every day, as well as some other curious statements.
You may want to consider some more neutral news sources; it appears you're consuming a lot of far right nonsense based on some of the things you've said over the last few days.
I listen to the Breakfast Club.(east coast Syndicated program) and I also listen to dosens of radio stations via unlimited streaming. I listen to local AM Boston radio, Chicago, Miami, St Louis, Milwaukee, Phoenix, LA, Seattle, and others. Even the View. I take it all in before I go spouting opinions and observations. Im leaving things out because there's so many options to listen to. And when I get sick of it all, I put on the tunes.
This forum coming from most (not all) here is a left wing eco chamber. Y'all are very cozy here. Safe space. So anyone with a different take on any matter no matter how big or small are very obviously not welcome here, not well liked no matter what they say while trying to find common ground, or some clarity at the very least.
Usually mocked & dismissed. And then they quit talking because there's no point.Many of us agree with what PJ has taught us since 1991. Being the same age as these guys I was definitely not as conscious or concerned about what those guys already knew.I don’t want you to feel bad, now i feel sad making you feel like that. I’m truly sorry. Stick around. I promise you’ll learn so much about everything and especially yourself.0 -
haha, I remember that. and it's funny, my first experience on AMT was virtually the same. I was ignorant and got piled on and felt like an absolute idiot.cblock4life said:
I never feel safe here. I read this forum for about five years before posting and my first few outings (big fight with HFD!!) were me being an ass but until others showed me that I too felt ganged up on. I stepped back and saw they were correct. In the beginning it felt like trying to sit at the popular table, but it really isn’t.RYME said:
How do you know that your news sources are all on the up & up? I listen to as much as I can from all angles, and then form my opinions and conclusions after I take it all in, and I'm open to the possibility that I might be wrong. I drive truck 550 miles/day so I listen to different podcasts & everything I can find. The Joe Biden thread is temporarily back to being the Ryan thread,Merkin Baller said:
I didn't see where anyone suggested you should have your skull crushed in like Paul Pelosi.(that's quite the analogy to bring up btw)RYME said:
I appreciate your politeness, because if you read back just a little ways, you'll see that most of these people challenging me would love to give me the Paul Pelosi treatment.Merkin Baller said:
I give you credit for being honest and straightforward. I'm not trying to pile on here...RYME said:
I was kicked out of this forum probably a year and a half ago because someone was calling me a Confederate. That pissed me off a lot, so didn't hesitate to call that person a _______. And was kicked out. So how could I have commented on all Trump's crap here? I'm not gonna go back and back and back now.The Juggler said:
Trump's the frontrunner by a country mile in the current GOP primary. He will be Biden's opponent next year man. Why do you guys act like he doesn't matter anymore? lolRYME said:
Well this used to be the Joe Biden thread.The Juggler said:What I don't get is not the voting for him in '16. It's the being (rightfully) disgusted with him enough to sit out 2020....yet voicing absolutely no concern what so ever for anything he's being credibly accused of since. And, instead, coming on here and bitching and complaining about cocaine being found in the White House. That doesn't compute.
Trump has been out for 3+ years. I don't know who brought up Trump in this conversation?
I wish Trump would go away. I don't think there is any way he could win again. That's good right? He will probably win in the primaries because there are a lot of fools among us, and get his clock cleaned again in the general. The left wants him to get the nomination because he is clearly the easiest to beat.
What don't you get? I held my nose in 16, and by 2020, couldn't stand either one of them.
No matter which thread we're in, you've never expressed outrage over this guy who stole top secret government documents and refused to return them after being issued a subpoena...in addition to attempting to prevent the Biden administration from gaining power after they won the election. He represents the end to democracy as we know it yet you're here going on and on about minor Biden conspiracies. That's what I don't get. It's not the typical hold your nose and vote for the lesser of two evil thing. We are waaaay past that.
I didn't support Trump in 2020, therefore I'm not responsible for his crap! (He was given a lot of bad advice though from several of his top advisors on what could and should be done, pertaining to his handling of Jan 6th & trying to overturn the election) That doesn't excuse his actions. Repeat that does not excuse his demanding Mike Pence send it back to the states in question. He was told that if enough senators from the swing states in question would refuse to conferm the vote from the states in question because of irregularitie clames, that the vote would go back to the individual state houses and there state assemblies would hash it out. There was a word for this that escapes me. When they were going through this, that's when all the chaos at the capital started happening. They adjourned for a few hours. Came back and finished it.
I did vote in 2020 in local & state races, school board, & whatever referendums were on it, but I left the presidential vote blank.
I don't like Biden either, and since this is the Joe Biden thread, and the coke was the topic of the week last week, I made some comments, but I didn't go "on & on & on" but so, If someone in the Biden Whitehouse likes to do the wake & bake thing, it's fair game.
I have to refute the above boldface section though:
Trump was also given a lot of good advice in the wake of the 2020 election which he chose to ignore. He knew exactly what he was doing when he tried to subvert the results of the 2020 election.
Did you know him & Steve Bannon had a 'Stop the Steal' movement planned for November of 2016 before he unexpectedly won? Let that sink in... they expected to lose in 2016, and planned in advance to claim voter fraud. When he eventually lost in 2020, they went w/ the 2016 plan: "Stop the steal".
You're giving him too much credit, the man literally tried to overrule the constitution and for the first time in our nation's history, prevented a peaceful transfer of power.
I say this as respectfully as possible: wake up.
I did however see where you claimed the Bidens were breaking laws every day, as well as some other curious statements.
You may want to consider some more neutral news sources; it appears you're consuming a lot of far right nonsense based on some of the things you've said over the last few days.
I listen to the Breakfast Club.(east coast Syndicated program) and I also listen to dosens of radio stations via unlimited streaming. I listen to local AM Boston radio, Chicago, Miami, St Louis, Milwaukee, Phoenix, LA, Seattle, and others. Even the View. I take it all in before I go spouting opinions and observations. Im leaving things out because there's so many options to listen to. And when I get sick of it all, I put on the tunes.
This forum coming from most (not all) here is a left wing eco chamber. Y'all are very cozy here. Safe space. So anyone with a different take on any matter no matter how big or small are very obviously not welcome here, not well liked no matter what they say while trying to find common ground, or some clarity at the very least.
Usually mocked & dismissed. And then they quit talking because there's no point.Many of us agree with what PJ has taught us since 1991. Being the same age as these guys I was definitely not as conscious or concerned about what those guys already knew.I don’t want you to feel bad, now i feel sad making you feel like that. I’m truly sorry. Stick around. I promise you’ll learn so much about everything and especially yourself.By The Time They Figure Out What Went Wrong, We'll Be Sitting On A Beach, Earning Twenty Percent.0 -
I feel like we've all been around for a while now. At some point we should do a meet up.. maybe St Paul or Chicago, catch a beer before a show.HughFreakingDillon said:
haha, I remember that. and it's funny, my first experience on AMT was virtually the same. I was ignorant and got piled on and felt like an absolute idiot.cblock4life said:
I never feel safe here. I read this forum for about five years before posting and my first few outings (big fight with HFD!!) were me being an ass but until others showed me that I too felt ganged up on. I stepped back and saw they were correct. In the beginning it felt like trying to sit at the popular table, but it really isn’t.RYME said:
How do you know that your news sources are all on the up & up? I listen to as much as I can from all angles, and then form my opinions and conclusions after I take it all in, and I'm open to the possibility that I might be wrong. I drive truck 550 miles/day so I listen to different podcasts & everything I can find. The Joe Biden thread is temporarily back to being the Ryan thread,Merkin Baller said:
I didn't see where anyone suggested you should have your skull crushed in like Paul Pelosi.(that's quite the analogy to bring up btw)RYME said:
I appreciate your politeness, because if you read back just a little ways, you'll see that most of these people challenging me would love to give me the Paul Pelosi treatment.Merkin Baller said:
I give you credit for being honest and straightforward. I'm not trying to pile on here...RYME said:
I was kicked out of this forum probably a year and a half ago because someone was calling me a Confederate. That pissed me off a lot, so didn't hesitate to call that person a _______. And was kicked out. So how could I have commented on all Trump's crap here? I'm not gonna go back and back and back now.The Juggler said:
Trump's the frontrunner by a country mile in the current GOP primary. He will be Biden's opponent next year man. Why do you guys act like he doesn't matter anymore? lolRYME said:
Well this used to be the Joe Biden thread.The Juggler said:What I don't get is not the voting for him in '16. It's the being (rightfully) disgusted with him enough to sit out 2020....yet voicing absolutely no concern what so ever for anything he's being credibly accused of since. And, instead, coming on here and bitching and complaining about cocaine being found in the White House. That doesn't compute.
Trump has been out for 3+ years. I don't know who brought up Trump in this conversation?
I wish Trump would go away. I don't think there is any way he could win again. That's good right? He will probably win in the primaries because there are a lot of fools among us, and get his clock cleaned again in the general. The left wants him to get the nomination because he is clearly the easiest to beat.
What don't you get? I held my nose in 16, and by 2020, couldn't stand either one of them.
No matter which thread we're in, you've never expressed outrage over this guy who stole top secret government documents and refused to return them after being issued a subpoena...in addition to attempting to prevent the Biden administration from gaining power after they won the election. He represents the end to democracy as we know it yet you're here going on and on about minor Biden conspiracies. That's what I don't get. It's not the typical hold your nose and vote for the lesser of two evil thing. We are waaaay past that.
I didn't support Trump in 2020, therefore I'm not responsible for his crap! (He was given a lot of bad advice though from several of his top advisors on what could and should be done, pertaining to his handling of Jan 6th & trying to overturn the election) That doesn't excuse his actions. Repeat that does not excuse his demanding Mike Pence send it back to the states in question. He was told that if enough senators from the swing states in question would refuse to conferm the vote from the states in question because of irregularitie clames, that the vote would go back to the individual state houses and there state assemblies would hash it out. There was a word for this that escapes me. When they were going through this, that's when all the chaos at the capital started happening. They adjourned for a few hours. Came back and finished it.
I did vote in 2020 in local & state races, school board, & whatever referendums were on it, but I left the presidential vote blank.
I don't like Biden either, and since this is the Joe Biden thread, and the coke was the topic of the week last week, I made some comments, but I didn't go "on & on & on" but so, If someone in the Biden Whitehouse likes to do the wake & bake thing, it's fair game.
I have to refute the above boldface section though:
Trump was also given a lot of good advice in the wake of the 2020 election which he chose to ignore. He knew exactly what he was doing when he tried to subvert the results of the 2020 election.
Did you know him & Steve Bannon had a 'Stop the Steal' movement planned for November of 2016 before he unexpectedly won? Let that sink in... they expected to lose in 2016, and planned in advance to claim voter fraud. When he eventually lost in 2020, they went w/ the 2016 plan: "Stop the steal".
You're giving him too much credit, the man literally tried to overrule the constitution and for the first time in our nation's history, prevented a peaceful transfer of power.
I say this as respectfully as possible: wake up.
I did however see where you claimed the Bidens were breaking laws every day, as well as some other curious statements.
You may want to consider some more neutral news sources; it appears you're consuming a lot of far right nonsense based on some of the things you've said over the last few days.
I listen to the Breakfast Club.(east coast Syndicated program) and I also listen to dosens of radio stations via unlimited streaming. I listen to local AM Boston radio, Chicago, Miami, St Louis, Milwaukee, Phoenix, LA, Seattle, and others. Even the View. I take it all in before I go spouting opinions and observations. Im leaving things out because there's so many options to listen to. And when I get sick of it all, I put on the tunes.
This forum coming from most (not all) here is a left wing eco chamber. Y'all are very cozy here. Safe space. So anyone with a different take on any matter no matter how big or small are very obviously not welcome here, not well liked no matter what they say while trying to find common ground, or some clarity at the very least.
Usually mocked & dismissed. And then they quit talking because there's no point.Many of us agree with what PJ has taught us since 1991. Being the same age as these guys I was definitely not as conscious or concerned about what those guys already knew.I don’t want you to feel bad, now i feel sad making you feel like that. I’m truly sorry. Stick around. I promise you’ll learn so much about everything and especially yourself.0 -
If I stay the course and go to both St Paul shows, I'd be down for that.mrussel1 said:
I feel like we've all been around for a while now. At some point we should do a meet up.. maybe St Paul or Chicago, catch a beer before a show.HughFreakingDillon said:
haha, I remember that. and it's funny, my first experience on AMT was virtually the same. I was ignorant and got piled on and felt like an absolute idiot.cblock4life said:
I never feel safe here. I read this forum for about five years before posting and my first few outings (big fight with HFD!!) were me being an ass but until others showed me that I too felt ganged up on. I stepped back and saw they were correct. In the beginning it felt like trying to sit at the popular table, but it really isn’t.RYME said:
How do you know that your news sources are all on the up & up? I listen to as much as I can from all angles, and then form my opinions and conclusions after I take it all in, and I'm open to the possibility that I might be wrong. I drive truck 550 miles/day so I listen to different podcasts & everything I can find. The Joe Biden thread is temporarily back to being the Ryan thread,Merkin Baller said:
I didn't see where anyone suggested you should have your skull crushed in like Paul Pelosi.(that's quite the analogy to bring up btw)RYME said:
I appreciate your politeness, because if you read back just a little ways, you'll see that most of these people challenging me would love to give me the Paul Pelosi treatment.Merkin Baller said:
I give you credit for being honest and straightforward. I'm not trying to pile on here...RYME said:
I was kicked out of this forum probably a year and a half ago because someone was calling me a Confederate. That pissed me off a lot, so didn't hesitate to call that person a _______. And was kicked out. So how could I have commented on all Trump's crap here? I'm not gonna go back and back and back now.The Juggler said:
Trump's the frontrunner by a country mile in the current GOP primary. He will be Biden's opponent next year man. Why do you guys act like he doesn't matter anymore? lolRYME said:
Well this used to be the Joe Biden thread.The Juggler said:What I don't get is not the voting for him in '16. It's the being (rightfully) disgusted with him enough to sit out 2020....yet voicing absolutely no concern what so ever for anything he's being credibly accused of since. And, instead, coming on here and bitching and complaining about cocaine being found in the White House. That doesn't compute.
Trump has been out for 3+ years. I don't know who brought up Trump in this conversation?
I wish Trump would go away. I don't think there is any way he could win again. That's good right? He will probably win in the primaries because there are a lot of fools among us, and get his clock cleaned again in the general. The left wants him to get the nomination because he is clearly the easiest to beat.
What don't you get? I held my nose in 16, and by 2020, couldn't stand either one of them.
No matter which thread we're in, you've never expressed outrage over this guy who stole top secret government documents and refused to return them after being issued a subpoena...in addition to attempting to prevent the Biden administration from gaining power after they won the election. He represents the end to democracy as we know it yet you're here going on and on about minor Biden conspiracies. That's what I don't get. It's not the typical hold your nose and vote for the lesser of two evil thing. We are waaaay past that.
I didn't support Trump in 2020, therefore I'm not responsible for his crap! (He was given a lot of bad advice though from several of his top advisors on what could and should be done, pertaining to his handling of Jan 6th & trying to overturn the election) That doesn't excuse his actions. Repeat that does not excuse his demanding Mike Pence send it back to the states in question. He was told that if enough senators from the swing states in question would refuse to conferm the vote from the states in question because of irregularitie clames, that the vote would go back to the individual state houses and there state assemblies would hash it out. There was a word for this that escapes me. When they were going through this, that's when all the chaos at the capital started happening. They adjourned for a few hours. Came back and finished it.
I did vote in 2020 in local & state races, school board, & whatever referendums were on it, but I left the presidential vote blank.
I don't like Biden either, and since this is the Joe Biden thread, and the coke was the topic of the week last week, I made some comments, but I didn't go "on & on & on" but so, If someone in the Biden Whitehouse likes to do the wake & bake thing, it's fair game.
I have to refute the above boldface section though:
Trump was also given a lot of good advice in the wake of the 2020 election which he chose to ignore. He knew exactly what he was doing when he tried to subvert the results of the 2020 election.
Did you know him & Steve Bannon had a 'Stop the Steal' movement planned for November of 2016 before he unexpectedly won? Let that sink in... they expected to lose in 2016, and planned in advance to claim voter fraud. When he eventually lost in 2020, they went w/ the 2016 plan: "Stop the steal".
You're giving him too much credit, the man literally tried to overrule the constitution and for the first time in our nation's history, prevented a peaceful transfer of power.
I say this as respectfully as possible: wake up.
I did however see where you claimed the Bidens were breaking laws every day, as well as some other curious statements.
You may want to consider some more neutral news sources; it appears you're consuming a lot of far right nonsense based on some of the things you've said over the last few days.
I listen to the Breakfast Club.(east coast Syndicated program) and I also listen to dosens of radio stations via unlimited streaming. I listen to local AM Boston radio, Chicago, Miami, St Louis, Milwaukee, Phoenix, LA, Seattle, and others. Even the View. I take it all in before I go spouting opinions and observations. Im leaving things out because there's so many options to listen to. And when I get sick of it all, I put on the tunes.
This forum coming from most (not all) here is a left wing eco chamber. Y'all are very cozy here. Safe space. So anyone with a different take on any matter no matter how big or small are very obviously not welcome here, not well liked no matter what they say while trying to find common ground, or some clarity at the very least.
Usually mocked & dismissed. And then they quit talking because there's no point.Many of us agree with what PJ has taught us since 1991. Being the same age as these guys I was definitely not as conscious or concerned about what those guys already knew.I don’t want you to feel bad, now i feel sad making you feel like that. I’m truly sorry. Stick around. I promise you’ll learn so much about everything and especially yourself.By The Time They Figure Out What Went Wrong, We'll Be Sitting On A Beach, Earning Twenty Percent.0
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