Official 2023 Ticket Lottery Results Thread

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  • EddieredderEddieredder Posts: 753
    No, that is not how this ever has worked
    See this as a pretty common response. Are we saying things don't change? They can't change? This process, and this membership, has all changed. You can bet it will also change again. 
  • JBob87JBob87 Posts: 481
    Manu117 said:
    Exactly. DMB lotteries works the same way. You can assign priority to a single show to increase your chances, but it doesn't guarantee you'll get it. 
    Literally no one is saying that assigning something as Priority 1 guarantees you will get it
  • The Camaros HoodThe Camaros Hood Boston, MA Posts: 481
    mb204469 said:
    As usual this lottery process is quite bizarre. I requested both FW and both ATX as GA/Reserved, and lo and behold, I got the 4 shows, only one GA (FW), the rest reserved with decent loacations. #671xxx
    Exact same for me.
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  • PJNBPJNB Posts: 13,765
    Sigh. Yes, a sale is a sale. They only offer the “Reserved only” option because they want to *make sales* to people who won’t pay to stand. If people who won’t/can’t pay to stand for three hours consistently or systematically lose out on tickets to those who declare “I’m able to and prefer to stand”, which is what they explicitly said “GA/Reserve” meant, then they’d be likely to alienate a significant portion of older customers (who also are statistically much more valuable to the venue and act at the concession and merch lines) — or worse, find themselves looking at a class-action from folks with physical restrictions who don’t qualify for the very few ADA-designated seats at a venue. 

    Look, it’s okay that you don’t have any experience working in this stuff, but it’s always preferable to not act like an asshole about subjects that you’re ignorant of. 
    Why didn't you say something before that you were some big fancy expert on the matter. Could of saved you paragraphs and paragraphs and paragraphs of typing! 


    Sign me up for that class action if it ever occurs! 
  • Manu117Manu117 Burlington VT Posts: 117
    Doug87 said:
    I wonder if this lottery mess up is going to result in extra shows being added.

    Might be implied there................
    Maybe PJ should consider doing mini residencies like LCD soundsystem... Choose a city and do 5-10 shows in it. Then take a break before doing another city 6 months later.

    LCD started doing that because they're too old and tired to tour, and privileged enough to be able to do that. Could be a good fit for PJ since they don't do big tours and their fans will travel anyway. 
  • LaFleurLaFleur Posts: 828
    RansomPTD said:
    According to the Ten Club he should still have the better seats due to seniority. 
    And I suspect they do (at least according to whoever decides which is better).
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  • chiwhitesoxchiwhitesox Chicago Posts: 696

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  • machinehummachinehum Posts: 166
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  • JBob87JBob87 Posts: 481
    That Santos post is the old one from April 3rd
  • Manu117Manu117 Burlington VT Posts: 117
    Sarava said:
    The Ten Club page calls this a presale, not a lottery. The word is not used at all on that page at least.

    https://pearljam.com/ten-club/event/pearl-jam-2023-us-tour-presale
    You are requesting tickets and have "chances" to be confirmed... Pretty much a lottery (unless requests don't exceed inventory). 
  • RVMMFCRVMMFC Posts: 461
    This is not how it is supposed to work
    JBob87 said:
    So then why did no one get GA with a 2nd or later pick? Seems statistically uh improbable under the system you laid out. 
    No cause they could still pool everyone who had selected GA and do that first and then go back and do reserved...different pools so to speak for the draw as one doesn't affect the other
    " I said there's nothing wrong with what you say. Believe me just asking you to sway. No white or black just grey. Can you feel this world with your heart and not your brain?"
  • LedbetterdaysLedbetterdays Round Rock, Texas Posts: 556
    It's hard to understand how this is so complicated with so few variables.
    -Priority Selection (up to 9 options) 
    -3 options for seats (GA, RES, or EITHER)
    -1 ticket or 2
    -Membership #
    Touring Fan since 1996
  • RVMMFCRVMMFC Posts: 461
    Red 81 said:
    by that logic, priority has nothing to do with it. Its essentially a completely random lottery. and it comes down to your number drawn or not. 
    AGREED! The priority element is the part that needs to be explained cause the drawing as done this year seems to render it pointless
    " I said there's nothing wrong with what you say. Believe me just asking you to sway. No white or black just grey. Can you feel this world with your heart and not your brain?"
  • darwinstheorydarwinstheory LaPorte, IN Posts: 6,939
    Doug87 said:
    I wonder if this lottery mess up is going to result in extra shows being added.

    Might be implied there................
    My bad, it is not. Just my attempt at humor and making a mockery of this shit-tastic debacle. This is from 4/3.
    "A smart monkey doesn't monkey around with another monkey's monkey" - Darwin's Theory
  • Doug87Doug87 Posts: 442
    JBob87 said:
    That Santos post is the old one from April 3rd
    Thanks for flagging :(
  • Manu117Manu117 Burlington VT Posts: 117
    JBob87 said:
    Literally no one is saying that assigning something as Priority 1 guarantees you will get it
    There are literally countless posts exclaiming disbelief that someone could get tickets with their third or fourth pick for a show someone else didn't get with their first or second pick. 
  • Triberjay25Triberjay25 Detroit Posts: 121
    Same thing they sent me.

    "Now in regard to your inquiry, this is a random lottery. Fans will be notified of their ticket status by the night of Tuesday, April 25"
    This is like the Gutless answering the Gutted…..
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  • Doug87Doug87 Posts: 442
    My bad, it is not. Just my attempt at humor and making a mockery of this shit-tastic debacle. This is from 4/3.
    No worries, I just saw the 4 minutes part and was hoping that maybe something good would come out of this disaster.
  • craigraethercraigraether Posts: 1,612
    JBob87 said:
    Literally no one is saying that assigning something as Priority 1 guarantees you will get it
    Right if you have 15000 p1 requests and 10000 available tickets... then no, but really "Should be" if P1 requests equal less then available tickets then chance should be assured.. thats how you can get odds for each show by priority.. 
  • Dickie’s Arena isn’t huge. Just happy to be in the place. Don’t give a shit about the seat location honestly
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    Philadelphia 10/22/2013
    Baltimore 10/27/2013
    Hampton 4/18/2016
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    Wrigley 8/31/2024
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  • JBob87JBob87 Posts: 481
    RVMMFC said:
    No cause they could still pool everyone who had selected GA and do that first and then go back and do reserved...different pools so to speak for the draw as one doesn't affect the other
    Some people picked GA/Reserved for multiple shows. Under your process if they were selected in the GA lottery they would have been randomly assigned one of those three shows.

    If that were the case we would expect to see people win GA for Priority 2+ shows. We have not. 

    Unless you are arguing priority only mattered for GA and not Reserved. If that is the case it is illogical and TM fucked up. 
  • Red 81Red 81 Posts: 29
    JBob87 said:
    Literally no one is saying that assigning something as Priority 1 guarantees you will get it
    So priority is supposed to be taken into consideration per the announcement, and it doesnt guarantee ticket, but it should by that statement ensure that a P3 selection should not win over P1 selection. 

    If there is P1 selection and seats left at that venue,  How is P2 and P3 selections getting tickets over P1. 

    Its a shit show and I hope they can fix it but its unlikely at this point. 
  • The Camaros HoodThe Camaros Hood Boston, MA Posts: 481
    Dickie’s Arena isn’t huge. Just happy to be in the place. Don’t give a shit about the seat location honestly
    More of this attitude is needed...especially for the two Texas venues which are considerably smaller compared to most arenas.
    Austin, TX - 9/16/95 ~ Charleston, SC - 10/5/96 ~ Dallas, TX - 7/5/98 ~ San Antonio, TX - 4/5/03 ~ Denver, CO - 7/2/06 ~ EV - LA #2 - 4/13/08 ~ Austin, TX - 10/4/09 ~ Los Angeles, CA #1 - 11/23/13 ~ Los Angeles, CA #2 - 11/24/13 ~ Seattle, WA - 12/6/13 ~ NYC #1 - 5/1/16 ~ Boston, MA #1 - 8/5/16 ~ Boston, MA #2 - 8/7/16 ~ Boston, MA #1 - 9/2/18 ~ Boston, MA #2 - 9/4/18 ~ Louisville, KY - 9/17/22 ~ Ft. Worth, TX #1 - 9/13/23 ~ Ft. Worth, TX #2 - 9/15/23 ~ Austin, Texas #1 - 9/18/23 ~ Austin, Texas #2 - 9/19/23 ~ NYC #2 - 9/4/24 ~ Boston, MA #1 - 9/15/24 ~ Boston, MA #2 - 9/17/24
  • ReleaseMeReleaseMe Mississauga, Ontario Posts: 753
    lahren said:
    Yes. So your saying first priority didn't get a chance for reserved?

    Yep I believe so...thought I would still have had a chance for reserve considering it was a 1st priority
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  • BloodMeridian80BloodMeridian80 Seattle Posts: 714
    See this as a pretty common response. Are we saying things don't change? They can't change? This process, and this membership, has all changed. You can bet it will also change again. 
    Then, let us know that it’s changed 
  • JI10794JI10794 Posts: 4
    My membership number is 141XXX. Indy is the only show I applied for and I picked “GA or reserved” and I’ve received nothing. If it’s accurate that selecting “reserved (only)” would have increased my odds, that’s frustrating to hear. Both options are saying someone wants tickets in the reserved section.

    I live in Indy and haven’t seen them live since they were here in 2010. In the past I’ve always been able to get seats. I’m unable to travel like some people so I can only seen them when they play in Indy. It’s frustrating when I’ve been a member this long and am unable to get seats. In the future I think 10c should consider giving additional priority to people who haven’t attended a show recently and/or that are attending the show who live locally. This whole process is super frustrating for someone who has been a 10c member for 27 years and I can’t get tickets to my hometown show.
  • JBob87JBob87 Posts: 481
    Red 81 said:
    So priority is supposed to be taken into consideration per the announcement, and it doesnt guarantee ticket, but it should by that statement ensure that a P3 selection should not win over P1 selection. 

    If there is P1 selection and seats left at that venue,  How is P2 and P3 selections getting tickets over P1. 

    It’s a shit show and I hope they can fix it but it’s unlikely at this point. 
    Yea I fully agree with you. That’s different from what that guy was saying though. 
  • https://pearljam.com/ten-club/event/pearl-jam-2023-us-tour-presale

    In the PRESALE RULES section...

    Ticket requests will be confirmed for each show taking your priority into consideration, but it is not guaranteed you will get your first priority.

    I don't recall it written this way in the past.
  • SaravaSarava Naperville, IL Posts: 2,047
    Manu117 said:
    You are requesting tickets and have "chances" to be confirmed... Pretty much a lottery (unless requests don't exceed inventory). 
    Yes, it's essentially a lottery within the priority rank you are in. The FAQ says priority is taken in to consideration, and that doesnt appear to have happened in many cases.

    I dont want to blanket assume anything until we get the fail emails, but I think we all know they're coming.We're 90 minutes from ending the window they said tickets would go out.

    And in my case, besides missing my #1 priority in Chicago - my 2nd priority was GA/Reserved or Reserved for Indy, which I also missed. And in no way should I get anything for Indy if every single #1 priority entry wasn't taken care of. Thats how it's always worked and how it was implied it would continue to work.
  • JadlerJadler Posts: 771

    Just spit out my drink. 😆
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