Official 2023 Ticket Lottery Results Thread

JBob87

RVMMFC said:

NewfieintheUSA said:

RVMMFC said:

bbiggs said:

IlliniGuy76 said:

Still trying to wrap my head around - and there will never be an answer - how folks had Reserved Chicago as a third and fourth option and got seats but many people had them as 1 or 2 and didn’t.  Mind boggling.

It is unexplainable despite the fact that many are trying to do so.

Its a lottery, so someone could get chosen for all nine shows and get all their choices whereas others who had entered get nothing - simple as that.

Where the show was in your order only matters if you actually got picked

This is not how it is supposed to work

JBob87 said:

RVMMFC said:

NewfieintheUSA said:

JC29866 said:

Red 81 said:

JC29866 said:

I got both Chicago 1 (1st priority) and Chicago 2 (2nd priority),  great seats in 101 1st row ..#168xxx

Clicked all boxes as 10club advised…

The system works!   

Really, tell that to someone who had Chicago 2 as priority 1 and didnt get a ticket. (clicked all boxes as well)

It’s a lottery.  I’ve been shut out many times over the years, and won many times as well.  The lottery is a chance for everyone,  not a guarantee.  If you don’t hit the Powerball jackpot, you can’t blame the nice lady pulling the number balls. 

But in this lottery noone with a priority 2 should win ahead of a priority one for the same seat type

of course they should - its not a lottery done by priority ranking - the ranking only comes into play once chosen

One persons entry at 9 in the ranking is just as good an entry with an equal chance of getting chosen as someone that had the same show at choice 1

So then why did no one get GA with a 2nd or later pick? Seems statistically uh improbable under the system you laid out. 

No cause they could still pool everyone who had selected GA and do that first and then go back and do reserved...different pools so to speak for the draw as one doesn't affect the other

Some people picked GA/Reserved for multiple shows. Under your process if they were selected in the GA lottery they would have been randomly assigned one of those three shows.

If that were the case we would expect to see people win GA for Priority 2+ shows. We have not. 

Unless you are arguing priority only mattered for GA and not Reserved. If that is the case it is illogical and TM fucked up. 

Red 81

JBob87 said:

Manu117 said:

Red 81 said:

Manu117 said:

RVMMFC said:

bbiggs said:

IlliniGuy76 said:

Still trying to wrap my head around - and there will never be an answer - how folks had Reserved Chicago as a third and fourth option and got seats but many people had them as 1 or 2 and didn’t.  Mind boggling.

It is unexplainable despite the fact that many are trying to do so.

Its a lottery, so someone could get chosen for all nine shows and get all their choices whereas others who had entered get nothing - simple as that.

Where the show was in your order only matters if you actually got picked

This.

It's a lottery. 

If 1000 people requested tickets for Chicago N1 and they only had 500, then 500 people are outta luck. It seems priority might only increase your odds of winning (how much, we don't know), but it doesn't guarantee anything.

And so on and so forth for each show.

That's how someone could get lucky 5 times and get tickets for 5 shows, and someone else might get unlucky and get nothing. 

by that logic, priority has nothing to do with it. Its essentially a completely random lottery. and it comes down to your number drawn or not. 

Exactly. DMB lotteries works the same way. You can assign priority to a single show to increase your chances, but it doesn't guarantee you'll get it. 

Literally no one is saying that assigning something as Priority 1 guarantees you will get it

So priority is supposed to be taken into consideration per the announcement, and it doesnt guarantee ticket, but it should by that statement ensure that a P3 selection should not win over P1 selection. 

If there is P1 selection and seats left at that venue,  How is P2 and P3 selections getting tickets over P1. 

Its a shit show and I hope they can fix it but its unlikely at this point. 

The Camaros Hood

schaefferlax said:

Dickie’s Arena isn’t huge. Just happy to be in the place. Don’t give a shit about the seat location honestly

More of this attitude is needed...especially for the two Texas venues which are considerably smaller compared to most arenas.

ReleaseMe

lahren said:

ReleaseMe said:

lahren said:

riley540 said:

CopperTom said:

Shumway35 said:

I think it is clear that anyone who choose Ga/ Reserved only and didn’t get GA were not entered into the lottery for reserved. Not sure if that was a system error or not. 

That's been a thought of mine too.

That pesky “GA or Reserved” button was just a lie the whole time! 

Idk. I picked GA/reserved for both STP shows. Got GA for 1 and got reserved for 2. 

Was Night 1 your first priority?

Yes. So your saying first priority didn't get a chance for reserved?

Yep I believe so...thought I would still have had a chance for reserve considering it was a 1st priority

BloodMeridian80

Eddieredder said:

NewfieintheUSA said:

RVMMFC said:

NewfieintheUSA said:

JC29866 said:

Red 81 said:

JC29866 said:

I got both Chicago 1 (1st priority) and Chicago 2 (2nd priority),  great seats in 101 1st row ..#168xxx

Clicked all boxes as 10club advised…

The system works!   

Really, tell that to someone who had Chicago 2 as priority 1 and didnt get a ticket. (clicked all boxes as well)

It’s a lottery.  I’ve been shut out many times over the years, and won many times as well.  The lottery is a chance for everyone,  not a guarantee.  If you don’t hit the Powerball jackpot, you can’t blame the nice lady pulling the number balls. 

But in this lottery noone with a priority 2 should win ahead of a priority one for the same seat type

of course they should - its not a lottery done by priority ranking - the ranking only comes into play once chosen

No, that is not how this ever has worked

See this as a pretty common response. Are we saying things don't change? They can't change? This process, and this membership, has all changed. You can bet it will also change again. 

Then, let us know that it’s changed 

JI10794

My membership number is 141XXX. Indy is the only show I applied for and I picked “GA or reserved” and I’ve received nothing. If it’s accurate that selecting “reserved (only)” would have increased my odds, that’s frustrating to hear. Both options are saying someone wants tickets in the reserved section.

I live in Indy and haven’t seen them live since they were here in 2010. In the past I’ve always been able to get seats. I’m unable to travel like some people so I can only seen them when they play in Indy. It’s frustrating when I’ve been a member this long and am unable to get seats. In the future I think 10c should consider giving additional priority to people who haven’t attended a show recently and/or that are attending the show who live locally. This whole process is super frustrating for someone who has been a 10c member for 27 years and I can’t get tickets to my hometown show.

JBob87

Red 81 said:

JBob87 said:

Manu117 said:

Red 81 said:

Manu117 said:

RVMMFC said:

bbiggs said:

IlliniGuy76 said:

Still trying to wrap my head around - and there will never be an answer - how folks had Reserved Chicago as a third and fourth option and got seats but many people had them as 1 or 2 and didn’t.  Mind boggling.

It is unexplainable despite the fact that many are trying to do so.

Its a lottery, so someone could get chosen for all nine shows and get all their choices whereas others who had entered get nothing - simple as that.

Where the show was in your order only matters if you actually got picked

This.

It's a lottery. 

If 1000 people requested tickets for Chicago N1 and they only had 500, then 500 people are outta luck. It seems priority might only increase your odds of winning (how much, we don't know), but it doesn't guarantee anything.

And so on and so forth for each show.

That's how someone could get lucky 5 times and get tickets for 5 shows, and someone else might get unlucky and get nothing. 

by that logic, priority has nothing to do with it. Its essentially a completely random lottery. and it comes down to your number drawn or not. 

Exactly. DMB lotteries works the same way. You can assign priority to a single show to increase your chances, but it doesn't guarantee you'll get it. 

Literally no one is saying that assigning something as Priority 1 guarantees you will get it

So priority is supposed to be taken into consideration per the announcement, and it doesnt guarantee ticket, but it should by that statement ensure that a P3 selection should not win over P1 selection. 

If there is P1 selection and seats left at that venue,  How is P2 and P3 selections getting tickets over P1. 

It’s a shit show and I hope they can fix it but it’s unlikely at this point. 

Yea I fully agree with you. That’s different from what that guy was saying though. 

More Cowbell

https://pearljam.com/ten-club/event/pearl-jam-2023-us-tour-presale

In the PRESALE RULES section...

Ticket requests will be confirmed for each show taking your priority into consideration, but it is not guaranteed you will get your first priority.

I don't recall it written this way in the past.

Sarava

Manu117 said:

Sarava said:

Manu117 said:

RVMMFC said:

bbiggs said:

IlliniGuy76 said:

Still trying to wrap my head around - and there will never be an answer - how folks had Reserved Chicago as a third and fourth option and got seats but many people had them as 1 or 2 and didn’t.  Mind boggling.

It is unexplainable despite the fact that many are trying to do so.

Its a lottery, so someone could get chosen for all nine shows and get all their choices whereas others who had entered get nothing - simple as that.

Where the show was in your order only matters if you actually got picked

This.

It's a lottery. 

If 1000 people requested tickets for Chicago N1 and they only had 500, then 500 people are outta luck. It seems priority might only increase your odds of winning (how much, we don't know), but it doesn't guarantee anything.

And so on and so forth for each show.

That's how someone could get lucky 5 times and get tickets for 5 shows, and someone else might get unlucky and get nothing. 

The Ten Club page calls this a presale, not a lottery. The word is not used at all on that page at least.

https://pearljam.com/ten-club/event/pearl-jam-2023-us-tour-presale

You are requesting tickets and have "chances" to be confirmed... Pretty much a lottery (unless requests don't exceed inventory). 

Yes, it's essentially a lottery within the priority rank you are in. The FAQ says priority is taken in to consideration, and that doesnt appear to have happened in many cases.

I dont want to blanket assume anything until we get the fail emails, but I think we all know they're coming.We're 90 minutes from ending the window they said tickets would go out.

And in my case, besides missing my #1 priority in Chicago - my 2nd priority was GA/Reserved or Reserved for Indy, which I also missed. And in no way should I get anything for Indy if every single #1 priority entry wasn't taken care of. Thats how it's always worked and how it was implied it would continue to work.

Jadler

chiwhitesox said:

Just spit out my drink. 😆

regalturbo

chiwhitesox said:

I just got the same email!

Go Animal

I just got my Noblesville rejection. Doesn't say my name, just "Bill Buttlicker"

Sarava

Manu117 said:

JBob87 said:

Manu117 said:

Red 81 said:

Manu117 said:

RVMMFC said:

bbiggs said:

IlliniGuy76 said:

Still trying to wrap my head around - and there will never be an answer - how folks had Reserved Chicago as a third and fourth option and got seats but many people had them as 1 or 2 and didn’t.  Mind boggling.

It is unexplainable despite the fact that many are trying to do so.

Its a lottery, so someone could get chosen for all nine shows and get all their choices whereas others who had entered get nothing - simple as that.

Where the show was in your order only matters if you actually got picked

This.

It's a lottery. 

If 1000 people requested tickets for Chicago N1 and they only had 500, then 500 people are outta luck. It seems priority might only increase your odds of winning (how much, we don't know), but it doesn't guarantee anything.

And so on and so forth for each show.

That's how someone could get lucky 5 times and get tickets for 5 shows, and someone else might get unlucky and get nothing. 

by that logic, priority has nothing to do with it. Its essentially a completely random lottery. and it comes down to your number drawn or not. 

Exactly. DMB lotteries works the same way. You can assign priority to a single show to increase your chances, but it doesn't guarantee you'll get it. 

Literally no one is saying that assigning something as Priority 1 guarantees you will get it

There are literally countless posts exclaiming disbelief that someone could get tickets with their third or fourth pick for a show someone else didn't get with their first or second pick. 

You're saying something different than he is. We all know we could lose out on priority #1 - but that was expected to be because there were more priority #1 entries than there was available inventory. That has happened many times in ten club sales. What hasnt happened is losing out to people with lower priorities - as seems to be happening in sizable numbers this sale.

jimjam1982

More Cowbell said:

https://pearljam.com/ten-club/event/pearl-jam-2023-us-tour-presale

In the PRESALE RULES section...

Ticket requests will be confirmed for each show taking your priority into consideration, but it is not guaranteed you will get your first priority.

I don't recall it written this way in the past.

Exactly. If 10000 people requested the same show as P1 and there are 9000 tickets available then 9000 people win and 1000 lose. It doesn't mean you slide P2 amd P3 in. That's not how it ever worked

Red 81

craigraether said:

JBob87 said:

Manu117 said:

Red 81 said:

Manu117 said:

RVMMFC said:

bbiggs said:

IlliniGuy76 said:

Still trying to wrap my head around - and there will never be an answer - how folks had Reserved Chicago as a third and fourth option and got seats but many people had them as 1 or 2 and didn’t.  Mind boggling.

It is unexplainable despite the fact that many are trying to do so.

Its a lottery, so someone could get chosen for all nine shows and get all their choices whereas others who had entered get nothing - simple as that.

Where the show was in your order only matters if you actually got picked

This.

It's a lottery. 

If 1000 people requested tickets for Chicago N1 and they only had 500, then 500 people are outta luck. It seems priority might only increase your odds of winning (how much, we don't know), but it doesn't guarantee anything.

And so on and so forth for each show.

That's how someone could get lucky 5 times and get tickets for 5 shows, and someone else might get unlucky and get nothing. 

by that logic, priority has nothing to do with it. Its essentially a completely random lottery. and it comes down to your number drawn or not. 

Exactly. DMB lotteries works the same way. You can assign priority to a single show to increase your chances, but it doesn't guarantee you'll get it. 

Literally no one is saying that assigning something as Priority 1 guarantees you will get it

Right if you have 15000 p1 requests and 10000 available tickets... then no, but really "Should be" if P1 requests equal less then available tickets then chance should be assured.. thats how you can get odds for each show by priority.. 

This, which essentially means that people get their P1 shows, which is the most important. I imagine that most if not all fans would be fine losing out to other fans that had P1 and essentially demand outweighed availability. Thats why you have a priority, so at least most get their first and 2nd picks. seeing fans getting tickets for P3 and P4 ahead of P1 and P2 is a broken system. 

Red 81

Sarava said:

Manu117 said:

Sarava said:

Manu117 said:

RVMMFC said:

bbiggs said:

IlliniGuy76 said:

Still trying to wrap my head around - and there will never be an answer - how folks had Reserved Chicago as a third and fourth option and got seats but many people had them as 1 or 2 and didn’t.  Mind boggling.

It is unexplainable despite the fact that many are trying to do so.

Its a lottery, so someone could get chosen for all nine shows and get all their choices whereas others who had entered get nothing - simple as that.

Where the show was in your order only matters if you actually got picked

This.

It's a lottery. 

If 1000 people requested tickets for Chicago N1 and they only had 500, then 500 people are outta luck. It seems priority might only increase your odds of winning (how much, we don't know), but it doesn't guarantee anything.

And so on and so forth for each show.

That's how someone could get lucky 5 times and get tickets for 5 shows, and someone else might get unlucky and get nothing. 

The Ten Club page calls this a presale, not a lottery. The word is not used at all on that page at least.

https://pearljam.com/ten-club/event/pearl-jam-2023-us-tour-presale

You are requesting tickets and have "chances" to be confirmed... Pretty much a lottery (unless requests don't exceed inventory). 

Yes, it's essentially a lottery within the priority rank you are in. The FAQ says priority is taken in to consideration, and that doesnt appear to have happened in many cases.

I dont want to blanket assume anything until we get the fail emails, but I think we all know they're coming.We're 90 minutes from ending the window they said tickets would go out.

And in my case, besides missing my #1 priority in Chicago - my 2nd priority was GA/Reserved or Reserved for Indy, which I also missed. And in no way should I get anything for Indy if every single #1 priority entry wasn't taken care of. Thats how it's always worked and how it was implied it would continue to work.

This, but it doesnt appear to be that way 

Ledbetterdays

P1 should be the very first thing that gets selected. People make that choice for a reason. Every person possible should get their P1 choice.

trees

JI10794 said:

My membership number is 141XXX. Indy is the only show I applied for and I picked “GA or reserved” and I’ve received nothing. If it’s accurate that selecting “reserved (only)” would have increased my odds, that’s frustrating to hear. Both options are saying someone wants tickets in the reserved section.

I live in Indy and haven’t seen them live since they were here in 2010. In the past I’ve always been able to get seats. I’m unable to travel like some people so I can only seen them when they play in Indy. It’s frustrating when I’ve been a member this long and am unable to get seats. In the future I think 10c should consider giving additional priority to people who haven’t attended a show recently and/or that are attending the show who live locally. This whole process is super frustrating for someone who has been a 10c member for 27 years and I can’t get tickets to my hometown show.

I hear you on this 

arakias

Anyone else still not know? My tickets today page shows "request received" for the two shows I entered for.

tylermoore

The fact no lawn or behind stage emails have gone out leaves me somewhat hopeful. Like someone somewhere actually realized how bad things were going. Who knows....what a shit show.