Official 2023 Ticket Lottery Results Thread

Eddieredder

NewfieintheUSA said:

RVMMFC said:

NewfieintheUSA said:

JC29866 said:

Red 81 said:

JC29866 said:

I got both Chicago 1 (1st priority) and Chicago 2 (2nd priority),  great seats in 101 1st row ..#168xxx

Clicked all boxes as 10club advised…

The system works!   

Really, tell that to someone who had Chicago 2 as priority 1 and didnt get a ticket. (clicked all boxes as well)

It’s a lottery.  I’ve been shut out many times over the years, and won many times as well.  The lottery is a chance for everyone,  not a guarantee.  If you don’t hit the Powerball jackpot, you can’t blame the nice lady pulling the number balls. 

But in this lottery noone with a priority 2 should win ahead of a priority one for the same seat type

of course they should - its not a lottery done by priority ranking - the ranking only comes into play once chosen

No, that is not how this ever has worked

See this as a pretty common response. Are we saying things don't change? They can't change? This process, and this membership, has all changed. You can bet it will also change again. 

JBob87

Manu117 said:

Red 81 said:

Manu117 said:

RVMMFC said:

bbiggs said:

IlliniGuy76 said:

Still trying to wrap my head around - and there will never be an answer - how folks had Reserved Chicago as a third and fourth option and got seats but many people had them as 1 or 2 and didn’t.  Mind boggling.

It is unexplainable despite the fact that many are trying to do so.

Its a lottery, so someone could get chosen for all nine shows and get all their choices whereas others who had entered get nothing - simple as that.

Where the show was in your order only matters if you actually got picked

This.

It's a lottery. 

If 1000 people requested tickets for Chicago N1 and they only had 500, then 500 people are outta luck. It seems priority might only increase your odds of winning (how much, we don't know), but it doesn't guarantee anything.

And so on and so forth for each show.

That's how someone could get lucky 5 times and get tickets for 5 shows, and someone else might get unlucky and get nothing. 

by that logic, priority has nothing to do with it. Its essentially a completely random lottery. and it comes down to your number drawn or not. 

Exactly. DMB lotteries works the same way. You can assign priority to a single show to increase your chances, but it doesn't guarantee you'll get it. 

Literally no one is saying that assigning something as Priority 1 guarantees you will get it

The Camaros Hood

mb204469 said:

As usual this lottery process is quite bizarre. I requested both FW and both ATX as GA/Reserved, and lo and behold, I got the 4 shows, only one GA (FW), the rest reserved with decent loacations. #671xxx

Exact same for me.

PJNB

machinehum said:

PJNB said:

machinehum said:

PJNB said:

machinehum said:

PJNB said:

machinehum said:

NewfieintheUSA said:

machinehum said:

NewfieintheUSA said:

machinehum said:

It would be entirely reasonable that the first pass for each event would be drawing “Reserved Only” for seats, as some/many would have specified that option for physical/health reasons (along with the fact that —without a “GA Only” option—they’re the only ones who listed a specific preference). It’s common in this type of thing to assign the most restrictive set first. If enough people checked that option (including many who likely ALSO checked “GA/Reserved”), then there may not have been many Reserved seats left once they got to drawing Reserved seats for people who only checked “GA/Reserved” and didn’t get GA. 

Exact this is not reasonable at all

Oh?

Why would it be reasonable to select from the Reserved only entries first for Reserved seats before selecting from the GA Reserved entries? It's not reasonable at all.

I said why in the very first sentence: “ some/many would have specified that option for physical/health reasons”. 

Lol what am I even reading here. 

Shrug? You’re reading exactly what a number of people have posted in this thread and the rumors thread? “I chose Reserved only because I can’t stand for XYZ reason”. That’s one of the, if not the top reason, for it to be offered as a choice to begin with? Tell me you don’t work in a field where you have to pay attention to human bodies without telling me…

Haha ok were done here. TM cares about you and your body since you selected reserved only and there for must not be as able as someone who selected GA/reserved. Makes sense!

Obviously nobody at TM gives a shit about you. They do care about making money, and they do a lot of research and analysis, and they know that with an act whose fan base is predominantly 40+, a whole lot of them won’t spend a bunch of money to stand…

 A sale is a sale whether its from the GA/Res group or the Res only group when it comes to the RES lotto. You are making zero sense. 

Sigh. Yes, a sale is a sale. They only offer the “Reserved only” option because they want to *make sales* to people who won’t pay to stand. If people who won’t/can’t pay to stand for three hours consistently or systematically lose out on tickets to those who declare “I’m able to and prefer to stand”, which is what they explicitly said “GA/Reserve” meant, then they’d be likely to alienate a significant portion of older customers (who also are statistically much more valuable to the venue and act at the concession and merch lines) — or worse, find themselves looking at a class-action from folks with physical restrictions who don’t qualify for the very few ADA-designated seats at a venue. 

Look, it’s okay that you don’t have any experience working in this stuff, but it’s always preferable to not act like an asshole about subjects that you’re ignorant of. 

Why didn't you say something before that you were some big fancy expert on the matter. Could of saved you paragraphs and paragraphs and paragraphs of typing! 


Sign me up for that class action if it ever occurs! 

Manu117

Doug87 said:

Doug87 said:

darwinstheory said:

????

I wonder if this lottery mess up is going to result in extra shows being added.

Might be implied there................

Maybe PJ should consider doing mini residencies like LCD soundsystem... Choose a city and do 5-10 shows in it. Then take a break before doing another city 6 months later.

LCD started doing that because they're too old and tired to tour, and privileged enough to be able to do that. Could be a good fit for PJ since they don't do big tours and their fans will travel anyway. 

LaFleur

RansomPTD said:

LaFleur said:

Please Refesh said:

JC29866 said:

I got both Chicago 1 (1st priority) and Chicago 2 (2nd priority),  great seats in 101 1st row ..#168xxx

Clicked all boxes as 10club advised…

The system works!   

I have a far lower number than you and I'm behind you in the same section.

I had, oh I don't know... a 10 year run of being no worse than 4th row when things were strictly by seniority. Since the switch it's been difficult to get tickets to shows anymore. The system most definitely DOESN'T WORK (as it's described). It doesn't help that 10C changed my number the first year I paid online and said the membership number doesn't mean anything. I was 40,xxx and moved up nearly 100,000 in number after that fiasco.

Put in for Chicago 2, Indy, Chicago 1 for priority, and ended up with only Chicago 2, behind a whole bunch of folks who's membership number is higher than mine. Confirmed on the last tour in Hamilton and Toronto that people in front of us for rows were all 200,000+ higher members or even non members who bought tickets through various 3rd party sites.

I honestly didn't expect this to work well, it hasn't for years. I essentially don't come here or follow much at all because there's been some folks managing things in the club that are not customer (fan) focused. This is why tickets continue to be a mess. I would have much rather taken my chance on Ticketmaster, because it would have worked out better.

Not sure i'd call 140xxx "far" lower than 168xxx, out of 700xxx or whatever.

According to the Ten Club he should still have the better seats due to seniority. 

And I suspect they do (at least according to whoever decides which is better).

chiwhitesox

machinehum

 

JBob87

That Santos post is the old one from April 3rd

Manu117

Sarava said:

Manu117 said:

RVMMFC said:

bbiggs said:

IlliniGuy76 said:

Still trying to wrap my head around - and there will never be an answer - how folks had Reserved Chicago as a third and fourth option and got seats but many people had them as 1 or 2 and didn’t.  Mind boggling.

It is unexplainable despite the fact that many are trying to do so.

Its a lottery, so someone could get chosen for all nine shows and get all their choices whereas others who had entered get nothing - simple as that.

Where the show was in your order only matters if you actually got picked

This.

It's a lottery. 

If 1000 people requested tickets for Chicago N1 and they only had 500, then 500 people are outta luck. It seems priority might only increase your odds of winning (how much, we don't know), but it doesn't guarantee anything.

And so on and so forth for each show.

That's how someone could get lucky 5 times and get tickets for 5 shows, and someone else might get unlucky and get nothing. 

The Ten Club page calls this a presale, not a lottery. The word is not used at all on that page at least.

https://pearljam.com/ten-club/event/pearl-jam-2023-us-tour-presale

You are requesting tickets and have "chances" to be confirmed... Pretty much a lottery (unless requests don't exceed inventory). 

RVMMFC

NewfieintheUSA said:

RVMMFC said:

bbiggs said:

IlliniGuy76 said:

Still trying to wrap my head around - and there will never be an answer - how folks had Reserved Chicago as a third and fourth option and got seats but many people had them as 1 or 2 and didn’t.  Mind boggling.

It is unexplainable despite the fact that many are trying to do so.

Its a lottery, so someone could get chosen for all nine shows and get all their choices whereas others who had entered get nothing - simple as that.

Where the show was in your order only matters if you actually got picked

This is not how it is supposed to work

JBob87 said:

RVMMFC said:

NewfieintheUSA said:

JC29866 said:

Red 81 said:

JC29866 said:

I got both Chicago 1 (1st priority) and Chicago 2 (2nd priority),  great seats in 101 1st row ..#168xxx

Clicked all boxes as 10club advised…

The system works!   

Really, tell that to someone who had Chicago 2 as priority 1 and didnt get a ticket. (clicked all boxes as well)

It’s a lottery.  I’ve been shut out many times over the years, and won many times as well.  The lottery is a chance for everyone,  not a guarantee.  If you don’t hit the Powerball jackpot, you can’t blame the nice lady pulling the number balls. 

But in this lottery noone with a priority 2 should win ahead of a priority one for the same seat type

of course they should - its not a lottery done by priority ranking - the ranking only comes into play once chosen

One persons entry at 9 in the ranking is just as good an entry with an equal chance of getting chosen as someone that had the same show at choice 1

So then why did no one get GA with a 2nd or later pick? Seems statistically uh improbable under the system you laid out. 

No cause they could still pool everyone who had selected GA and do that first and then go back and do reserved...different pools so to speak for the draw as one doesn't affect the other

Ledbetterdays

It's hard to understand how this is so complicated with so few variables.
-Priority Selection (up to 9 options) 
-3 options for seats (GA, RES, or EITHER)
-1 ticket or 2
-Membership #

RVMMFC

Red 81 said:

Manu117 said:

RVMMFC said:

bbiggs said:

IlliniGuy76 said:

Still trying to wrap my head around - and there will never be an answer - how folks had Reserved Chicago as a third and fourth option and got seats but many people had them as 1 or 2 and didn’t.  Mind boggling.

It is unexplainable despite the fact that many are trying to do so.

Its a lottery, so someone could get chosen for all nine shows and get all their choices whereas others who had entered get nothing - simple as that.

Where the show was in your order only matters if you actually got picked

This.

It's a lottery. 

If 1000 people requested tickets for Chicago N1 and they only had 500, then 500 people are outta luck. It seems priority might only increase your odds of winning (how much, we don't know), but it doesn't guarantee anything.

And so on and so forth for each show.

That's how someone could get lucky 5 times and get tickets for 5 shows, and someone else might get unlucky and get nothing. 

by that logic, priority has nothing to do with it. Its essentially a completely random lottery. and it comes down to your number drawn or not. 

AGREED! The priority element is the part that needs to be explained cause the drawing as done this year seems to render it pointless

darwinstheory

Doug87 said:

Doug87 said:

darwinstheory said:

????

I wonder if this lottery mess up is going to result in extra shows being added.

Might be implied there................

My bad, it is not. Just my attempt at humor and making a mockery of this shit-tastic debacle. This is from 4/3.

Doug87

JBob87 said:

That Santos post is the old one from April 3rd

Thanks for flagging :(

Manu117

JBob87 said:

Manu117 said:

Red 81 said:

Manu117 said:

RVMMFC said:

bbiggs said:

IlliniGuy76 said:

Still trying to wrap my head around - and there will never be an answer - how folks had Reserved Chicago as a third and fourth option and got seats but many people had them as 1 or 2 and didn’t.  Mind boggling.

It is unexplainable despite the fact that many are trying to do so.

Its a lottery, so someone could get chosen for all nine shows and get all their choices whereas others who had entered get nothing - simple as that.

Where the show was in your order only matters if you actually got picked

This.

It's a lottery. 

If 1000 people requested tickets for Chicago N1 and they only had 500, then 500 people are outta luck. It seems priority might only increase your odds of winning (how much, we don't know), but it doesn't guarantee anything.

And so on and so forth for each show.

That's how someone could get lucky 5 times and get tickets for 5 shows, and someone else might get unlucky and get nothing. 

by that logic, priority has nothing to do with it. Its essentially a completely random lottery. and it comes down to your number drawn or not. 

Exactly. DMB lotteries works the same way. You can assign priority to a single show to increase your chances, but it doesn't guarantee you'll get it. 

Literally no one is saying that assigning something as Priority 1 guarantees you will get it

There are literally countless posts exclaiming disbelief that someone could get tickets with their third or fourth pick for a show someone else didn't get with their first or second pick. 

Triberjay25

Jbabbington said:

Sarava said:

Kevinman said:

Huskerjam20 said:

I’m still curious where they’re hiding the Chicago side/behind stage and the Indy lawn tickets

Good question…..I think tomorrow will bring more tickets awarded…..probably not any answers though

I just sent them an email asking why people with #1 priorities are apparently losing out to be people with lower priorities. We'll see what they say, if they answer me.

Same thing they sent me.

"Now in regard to your inquiry, this is a random lottery. Fans will be notified of their ticket status by the night of Tuesday, April 25"

This is like the Gutless answering the Gutted…..

Doug87

darwinstheory said:

Doug87 said:

Doug87 said:

darwinstheory said:

????

I wonder if this lottery mess up is going to result in extra shows being added.

Might be implied there................

My bad, it is not. Just my attempt at humor and making a mockery of this shit-tastic debacle. This is from 4/3.

No worries, I just saw the 4 minutes part and was hoping that maybe something good would come out of this disaster.

craigraether

JBob87 said:

Manu117 said:

Red 81 said:

Manu117 said:

RVMMFC said:

bbiggs said:

IlliniGuy76 said:

Still trying to wrap my head around - and there will never be an answer - how folks had Reserved Chicago as a third and fourth option and got seats but many people had them as 1 or 2 and didn’t.  Mind boggling.

It is unexplainable despite the fact that many are trying to do so.

Its a lottery, so someone could get chosen for all nine shows and get all their choices whereas others who had entered get nothing - simple as that.

Where the show was in your order only matters if you actually got picked

This.

It's a lottery. 

If 1000 people requested tickets for Chicago N1 and they only had 500, then 500 people are outta luck. It seems priority might only increase your odds of winning (how much, we don't know), but it doesn't guarantee anything.

And so on and so forth for each show.

That's how someone could get lucky 5 times and get tickets for 5 shows, and someone else might get unlucky and get nothing. 

by that logic, priority has nothing to do with it. Its essentially a completely random lottery. and it comes down to your number drawn or not. 

Exactly. DMB lotteries works the same way. You can assign priority to a single show to increase your chances, but it doesn't guarantee you'll get it. 

Literally no one is saying that assigning something as Priority 1 guarantees you will get it

Right if you have 15000 p1 requests and 10000 available tickets... then no, but really "Should be" if P1 requests equal less then available tickets then chance should be assured.. thats how you can get odds for each show by priority.. 

schaefferlax

Dickie’s Arena isn’t huge. Just happy to be in the place. Don’t give a shit about the seat location honestly