The 2023 Tour Speculation Thread - Potential Dates/Cities, Logistics/Data & Wishlists **UPDATED**

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  • Go AnimalGo Animal Posts: 3,920
    fAll or none 
    They HAVE to put it back into rotation now😅
    PJ - 09/23/98: West Palm Beach II, 08/12/00: Tampa, 04/12/03: Orlando, 04/13/03: Tampa, 06/12/08: Tampa, 06/27/08: Hartford, 09/22/09: Seattle II, 04/11/16: Tampa, 05/01 & 05/02/16: MSG I & II, 09/18/21: Sea Hear Now, 10/01 & 10/02/21: Ohana Encore I & II, 05/06 & 05/07/22: Los Angeles I & II, 09/11/22: MSG, 09/16/22: Nashville, 09/02/23: St. Paul II, 09/07/23: Chicago II, 09/18 & 09/19/23: Austin I & II

    EV - 08/04 & 08/05/08: (Eddie solo, w/Liam Finn) NYC I & II, 11/27 & 11/28/12: (Eddie solo, w/Glen Hansard) Orlando I & II, 02/09 & 02/10/22: (Eddie & the Earthlings) Chicago I & II, 09/30/23: (Eddie & the Earthlings) Ohana Festival

    Song Wishlist: Oceans, Brother, Alone, Let Me Sleep, full W.M.A., Hold On, all of Vitalogy or Satan's Bed, Gremmie Out Of Control, Mankind, Around The Bend (full band), Don't Gimme No Lip, Pilate, Push Me Pull Me, All Those Yesterdays, Rival, Parting Ways (full band), You Are, Bu$hleaguer, Inside Job, low octave Driftin', Strangest Tribe, Other Side, Undone, Of The Earth, Love Reign O'er Me, Comfortably Numb, and the Mamasan Trilogy.

    Wanted Posters: WPB '98, Tampa/WPB '00, Tampa '03, EV Batmobile '08        ISO: any picks, or setlists from any of my shows!

  • Lost In OhioLost In Ohio Posts: 6,748
    I suspect PJ will NOT play Europe this year.
    Presidential Advice from President-Elect Mike McCready: "Are you getting something out of this all encompassing trip?"
  • Go AnimalGo Animal Posts: 3,920
    I suspect PJ will NOT play Europe this year.
    Agreed. Ed & the Earthlings, though? That record hit #1 & not just in the U.S.

    I've got a hunch...
    PJ - 09/23/98: West Palm Beach II, 08/12/00: Tampa, 04/12/03: Orlando, 04/13/03: Tampa, 06/12/08: Tampa, 06/27/08: Hartford, 09/22/09: Seattle II, 04/11/16: Tampa, 05/01 & 05/02/16: MSG I & II, 09/18/21: Sea Hear Now, 10/01 & 10/02/21: Ohana Encore I & II, 05/06 & 05/07/22: Los Angeles I & II, 09/11/22: MSG, 09/16/22: Nashville, 09/02/23: St. Paul II, 09/07/23: Chicago II, 09/18 & 09/19/23: Austin I & II

    EV - 08/04 & 08/05/08: (Eddie solo, w/Liam Finn) NYC I & II, 11/27 & 11/28/12: (Eddie solo, w/Glen Hansard) Orlando I & II, 02/09 & 02/10/22: (Eddie & the Earthlings) Chicago I & II, 09/30/23: (Eddie & the Earthlings) Ohana Festival

    Song Wishlist: Oceans, Brother, Alone, Let Me Sleep, full W.M.A., Hold On, all of Vitalogy or Satan's Bed, Gremmie Out Of Control, Mankind, Around The Bend (full band), Don't Gimme No Lip, Pilate, Push Me Pull Me, All Those Yesterdays, Rival, Parting Ways (full band), You Are, Bu$hleaguer, Inside Job, low octave Driftin', Strangest Tribe, Other Side, Undone, Of The Earth, Love Reign O'er Me, Comfortably Numb, and the Mamasan Trilogy.

    Wanted Posters: WPB '98, Tampa/WPB '00, Tampa '03, EV Batmobile '08        ISO: any picks, or setlists from any of my shows!

  • demetriosdemetrios Canada Posts: 87,335
    Go Animal said:
    I suspect PJ will NOT play Europe this year.
    Agreed. Ed & the Earthlings, though? That record hit #1 & not just in the U.S.

    I've got a hunch...

    If there are no Pearl Jam shows this summer I could see Ed travel to Europe this summer for a few solo shows. And if that happens,  I would LOVE some Ed solo shows this Fall in Atlantic Canada, and Maine. 
  • BlueLedbetterBlueLedbetter Posts: 1,130
    demetrios said:
    Go Animal said:
    I suspect PJ will NOT play Europe this year.
    Agreed. Ed & the Earthlings, though? That record hit #1 & not just in the U.S.

    I've got a hunch...

    If there are no Pearl Jam shows this summer I could see Ed travel to Europe this summer for a few solo shows. And if that happens,  I would LOVE some Ed solo shows this Fall in Atlantic Canada, and Maine. 
    If that happens the announcement would need to be very soon and as there's been no rumours it seems unlikely 
  • demetriosdemetrios Canada Posts: 87,335
    demetrios said:
    Go Animal said:
    I suspect PJ will NOT play Europe this year.
    Agreed. Ed & the Earthlings, though? That record hit #1 & not just in the U.S.

    I've got a hunch...

    If there are no Pearl Jam shows this summer I could see Ed travel to Europe this summer for a few solo shows. And if that happens,  I would LOVE some Ed solo shows this Fall in Atlantic Canada, and Maine. 
    If that happens the announcement would need to be very soon and as there's been no rumours it seems unlikely 

    True.
  • demetriosdemetrios Canada Posts: 87,335
    I suspect PJ will NOT play Europe this year.

    If not this year then 10000% next summer. 
  • Go AnimalGo Animal Posts: 3,920
    edited March 2023
    Spring is here. Looks like there WERE plans for a short Spring run, but those got shelved. Matt has been jamming with 3rd Secret, Ed's staying active, but the thing that really raised my eyebrows was Stone appearing on the new Iggy Pop record. The one produced by Andrew Watt.
    Which leads me to believe we're closer to a new record than we realize. Watt always has 2 or 3 records in the works, and with his wide network of clients, it's almost like the late 80's with Jeff Lynne. "Hey, while we're making this record... you wanna be on THIS record?", "Hey, come play on mine too." etc. etc.
    I know they've demoing for sure since last year. The only thing I don't know, is how far along on the record they are. Watt takes a different approach than Brendan, or PJ themselves.
    I started the thread with the 2016 tour as inspiration, but realized a little while ago, that it's more like 2008 at this point. Demo here, record there, quick run of 11-13 shows, a mix of outdoor venues & arenas. Just add 15 years, a few family members, and Ohana fest

    There's always room for festival dates, or special gigs like Third Man, but I feel this (or something like this) will be what we have in store.
    As always, if this isn't the plan, consider it a pitch :)

    Prospective 2023 Tour V.9 (aka "I Want More Live Shows, F***er/I Ain't Done Yet")

    1. The Twin Cities: 08/25 - 09/02/23 (one, or two nights)
    • Target Center, Minneapolis (ASM Global venue) - capacity: 20,500
    • Xcel Energy Center, St. Paul - capacity: 20,500
    • Minnesota State Fair (The Grandstand) - capacity: 17,000; other acts: Duran Duran, The Chicks & Brandi Carlile
    • Somerset Amphitheater - Somerset, WI (Live Nation venue) - capacity: 30,000
    Target open dates: 08/27 - 08/31, and 09/02/23
    Xcel open dates: 08/25 - 09/02/23
    State Fair open dates: 09/01 - 09/02/23
    Somerset open dates: 08/25 - 08/28, and 08/30 - 09/02/23

    - The home of movie riffing (I'm watching MST3K as I type this). Somerset's kind of a cheat, but it's Live Nation & New York's football teams are guilty of worse.

    2. Milwaukee: 09/03 - 09/05/23
    • Fiserv Forum, Milwaukee, WI (ASM Global venue) - capacity: 18,000
    • American Family Insurance Ampitheater (Live Nation venue) - capacity: 23,000
    • Alpine Valley - East Troy, WI (Live Nation venue) - capacity: 37,000
    Fiserv open dates: 09/03 - 09/05/23
    AFI Amp. open dates: 09/03 - 09/05/23
    Alpine Valley open dates: 09/03 - 09/05/23

    - Is a return to Yieldwaukee in the works? With Chicago rumored, it's hard to say. But they booked Fresno & Sacramento last year, so anything's possible lol.

    3. Chicago: 09/05 - 09/08/23 (one, or two nights)
    • United Center, Chicago - capacity: 23,500
    • Huntington Bank Pavilion, Northerly Island (Live Nation venue) - capacity: 30,000
    • Alpine Valley - East Troy, WI (Live Nation venue) - capacity: 37,000
    UC open dates: 09/05 - 09/08/23
    Huntington open dates: 09/05 - 09/08/23
    Alpine Valley open dates: 09/05 - 09/08/23

    - I don't care how often they play Chicago, I love Chicago. Love the food, love the city. Chicago!

    4. Indiana: 09/08 - 09/11/23
    • Gainbridge Fieldhouse, Indianapolis - capacity: 19,000
    • Ruoff Music Center, Noblesville (Live Nation venue) - capacity: 24,800
    Gainbridge open dates: 09/08 & 09/09, and 09/11/23
    Ruoff open dates: 09/10 & 09/11/23

    - I hear Muncie is as close to Pawnee as it gets in real life. I'd totally take half a day to go find Gerry's vacation home (editor's note: I wrote this draft earlier in the month & the Pumpkins just booked Ruoff on 09/09 ;) ).

    5/5.5?. Lincoln (Help Me Spock, Help Me) aka "Carry On My Wayward Sons": 09/11 - 09/15/23
    • Pinnacle Bank Arena (ASM Global venue), Lincoln, NE - capacity: 14,600
    • Intrust Banka Arena (ASM Global venue), Wichita, KS - capacity: 15,400
    • T-Mobile Center (ASM Global venue), Kansas City, MO - capacity: 19,250
    Pinnacle open dates: 09/11 - 09/15/23
    Intrust open dates: 09/11 - 09/15/23
    T-Mobile open dates: 09/11 - 09/15/23

    - Coming up on 9 years, but it's plausible. If not this year, then the next. When you're going coast to coast, why NOT stop on the way? One stop, two stops, or none. Definitely adding an extra day for travel.

    6. Albuquerque, NM: 09/16 - 09/19/23
    • Isleta Ampitheatre (Live Nation venue), Albuquerque, NM - capacity: 15,500
    Isleta open dates: 09/16 - 09/19/23

    - I don't know much about this venue, but NM is due, it's on the way & it's Live Nation. Next stop: Vegas!

    7. Las Vegas: 09/19 - 09/24/23
    • MGM Grand Arena, Las Vegas, NV - capacity: 17,000 (2022 venue)
    • Thomas & Mack Center, Las Vegas, NV - capacity: 18,000
    • T-Mobile Arena, Las Vegas , NV - capacity: 20,000
    MGM Grand open dates: 09/19 - 09/24/23
    Thomas & Mack open dates: 09/19 - 09/24/23
    T-Mobile Arena open dates: 09/19 - 09/24/23

    - I had floor tix & a sweet hotel set aside last year. So did about 15,000 of us lol. Let's get a do-over before Ohana, yeah?

    8. Ohana Fest: 09/29 - 10/01/23
    • Doheny State Beach, Dana Point, CA
    - It's Ed's festival. Either PJ, or the Earthlings on Sunday?

    :end of 2023 run:

    Thoughts? ;)
    Post edited by Go Animal on
    PJ - 09/23/98: West Palm Beach II, 08/12/00: Tampa, 04/12/03: Orlando, 04/13/03: Tampa, 06/12/08: Tampa, 06/27/08: Hartford, 09/22/09: Seattle II, 04/11/16: Tampa, 05/01 & 05/02/16: MSG I & II, 09/18/21: Sea Hear Now, 10/01 & 10/02/21: Ohana Encore I & II, 05/06 & 05/07/22: Los Angeles I & II, 09/11/22: MSG, 09/16/22: Nashville, 09/02/23: St. Paul II, 09/07/23: Chicago II, 09/18 & 09/19/23: Austin I & II

    EV - 08/04 & 08/05/08: (Eddie solo, w/Liam Finn) NYC I & II, 11/27 & 11/28/12: (Eddie solo, w/Glen Hansard) Orlando I & II, 02/09 & 02/10/22: (Eddie & the Earthlings) Chicago I & II, 09/30/23: (Eddie & the Earthlings) Ohana Festival

    Song Wishlist: Oceans, Brother, Alone, Let Me Sleep, full W.M.A., Hold On, all of Vitalogy or Satan's Bed, Gremmie Out Of Control, Mankind, Around The Bend (full band), Don't Gimme No Lip, Pilate, Push Me Pull Me, All Those Yesterdays, Rival, Parting Ways (full band), You Are, Bu$hleaguer, Inside Job, low octave Driftin', Strangest Tribe, Other Side, Undone, Of The Earth, Love Reign O'er Me, Comfortably Numb, and the Mamasan Trilogy.

    Wanted Posters: WPB '98, Tampa/WPB '00, Tampa '03, EV Batmobile '08        ISO: any picks, or setlists from any of my shows!

  • Doug87Doug87 Posts: 442
    Go Animal said:
    Spring is here. Looks like there WERE plans for a short Spring run, but those got shelved. Matt has been jamming with 3rd Secret, Ed's staying active, but the thing that really raised my eyebrows was Stone appearing on the new Iggy Pop record. The one produced by Andrew Watt.
    Which leads me to believe we're closer to a new record than we realize. Watt always has 2 or 3 records in the works, and with his wide network of clients, it's almost like the late 80's with Jeff Lynne. "Hey, while we're making this record... you wanna be on THIS record?", "Hey, come play on mine too." etc. etc.
    I know they've demoing for sure since last year. The only thing I don't know, is how far along on the record they are. Watt takes a different approach than Brendan, or PJ themselves.
    I started the thread with the 2016 tour as inspiration, but realized a little while ago, that it's more like 2008 at this point. Demo here, record there, quick run of 11-13 shows, a mix of outdoor venues & arenas. Just add 15 years, a few family members, and Ohana fest

    There's always room for festival dates, or special gigs like Third Man, but I feel this (or something like this) will be what we have in store.
    As always, if this isn't the plan, consider it a pitch :)

    Prospective 2023 Tour V.9 (aka "I Want More Live Shows, F***er/I Ain't Done Yet")

    1. The Twin Cities: 08/25 - 09/02/23 (one, or two nights)
    • Target Center, Minneapolis (ASM Global venue) - capacity: 20,500
    • Xcel Energy Center, St. Paul - capacity: 20,500
    • Minnesota State Fair (The Grandstand) - capacity: 17,000; other acts: Duran Duran, The Chicks & Brandi Carlile
    • Somerset Amphitheater - Somerset, WI (Live Nation venue) - capacity: 30,000
    Target open dates: 08/27 - 008/31, and 09/02/23
    Xcel open dates: 08/25 - 09/02/23
    State Fair open dates: 09/01 - 09/02/23
    Somerset open dates: 08/25 - 08/28, and 08/30 - 09/02/23

    - The home of movie riffing (I'm watching MST3K as I type this). Somerset's kind of a cheat, but it's Live Nation & New York's football teams are guilty of worse.

    2. Milwaukee: 09/03 - 09/05/23
    • Fiserv Forum, Milwaukee, WI (ASM Global venue) - capacity: 18,000
    • American Family Insurance Ampitheater (Live Nation venue) - capacity: 23,000
    • Alpine Valley - East Troy, WI (Live Nation venue) - capacity: 37,000
    Fiserv open dates: 09/03 - 09/05/23
    AFI Amp. open dates: 09/03 - 09/05/23
    Alpine Valley open dates: 09/03 - 09/05/23

    - Is a return to Yieldwaukee in the works? With Chicago rumored, it's hard to say. But they booked Fresno & Sacramento last year, so anything's possible lol.

    3. Chicago: 09/05 - 09/08/23 (one, or two nights)
    • United Center, Chicago - capacity: 23,500
    • Huntington Bank Pavilion, Northerly Island (Live Nation venue) - capacity: 30,000
    • Alpine Valley - East Troy, WI (Live Nation venue) - capacity: 37,000
    UC open dates: 09/05 - 09/08/23
    Huntington open dates: 09/05 - 09/08/23
    Alpine Valley open dates: 09/05 - 09/08/23

    - I don't care how often they play Chicago, I love Chicago. Love the food, love the city. Chicago!

    4. Indiana: 09/08 - 09/11/23
    • Gainbridge Fieldhouse, Indianapolis - capacity: 19,000
    • Ruoff Music Center, Noblesville (Live Nation venue) - capacity: 24,800
    Gainbridge open dates: 09/08 & 09/09, and 09/11/23
    Ruoff open dates: 09/10 & 09/11/23

    - I hear Muncie is as close to Pawnee as it gets in real life. I'd totally take half a day to go find Gerry's vacation home (editor's note: I wrote this draft earlier in the month & the Pumpkins just booked Ruoff on 09/09 ;) ).

    5/5.5?. Lincoln (Help Me Spock, Help Me) aka "Carry On My Wayward Sons": 09/11 - 09/15/23
    • Pinnacle Bank Arena (ASM Global venue), Lincoln, NE - capacity: 14,600
    • Intrust Banka Arena (ASM Global venue), Wichita, KS - capacity: 15,400
    • T-Mobile Center (ASM Global venue), Kansas City, MO - capacity: 19,250
    Pinnacle open dates: 09/11 - 09/15/23
    Intrust open dates: 09/11 - 09/15/23
    T-Mobile open dates: 09/11 - 09/15/23

    - Coming up on 9 years, but it's plausible. If not this year, then the next. When you're going coast to coast, why NOT stop on the way? One stop, two stops, or none. Definitely adding an extra day for travel.

    6. Albuquerque, NM: 09/16 - 09/19/23
    • Isleta Ampitheatre (Live Nation venue), Albuquerque, NM - capacity: 15,500
    Isleta open dates: 09/16 - 09/19/23

    - I don't know much about this venue, but NM is due, it's on the way & it's Live Nation. Next stop: Vegas!

    7. Las Vegas: 09/19 - 09/24/23
    • MGM Grand Arena, Las Vegas, NV - capacity: 17,000 (2022 venue)
    • Thomas & Mack Center, Las Vegas, NV - capacity: 18,000
    • T-Mobile Arena, Las Vegas , NV - capacity: 20,000
    MGM Grand open dates: 09/19 - 09/24/23
    Thomas & Mack open dates: 09/19 - 09/24/23
    T-Mobile Arena open dates: 09/19 - 09/24/23

    - I had floor tix & a sweet hotel set aside last year. So did about 15,000 of us lol. Let's get a do-over before Ohana, yeah?

    8. Ohana Fest: 09/29 - 10/01/23
    • Doheny State Beach, Dana Point, CA
    - It's Ed's festival. Either PJ, or the Earthlings on Sunday?

    :end of 2023 run:

    Thoughts? ;)
    Go Animal said:
    Spring is here. Looks like there WERE plans for a short Spring run, but those got shelved. Matt has been jamming with 3rd Secret, Ed's staying active, but the thing that really raised my eyebrows was Stone appearing on the new Iggy Pop record. The one produced by Andrew Watt.
    Which leads me to believe we're closer to a new record than we realize. Watt always has 2 or 3 records in the works, and with his wide network of clients, it's almost like the late 80's with Jeff Lynne. "Hey, while we're making this record... you wanna be on THIS record?", "Hey, come play on mine too." etc. etc.
    I know they've demoing for sure since last year. The only thing I don't know, is how far along on the record they are. Watt takes a different approach than Brendan, or PJ themselves.
    I started the thread with the 2016 tour as inspiration, but realized a little while ago, that it's more like 2008 at this point. Demo here, record there, quick run of 11-13 shows, a mix of outdoor venues & arenas. Just add 15 years, a few family members, and Ohana fest

    There's always room for festival dates, or special gigs like Third Man, but I feel this (or something like this) will be what we have in store.
    As always, if this isn't the plan, consider it a pitch :)

    Prospective 2023 Tour V.9 (aka "I Want More Live Shows, F***er/I Ain't Done Yet")

    1. The Twin Cities: 08/25 - 09/02/23 (one, or two nights)
    • Target Center, Minneapolis (ASM Global venue) - capacity: 20,500
    • Xcel Energy Center, St. Paul - capacity: 20,500
    • Minnesota State Fair (The Grandstand) - capacity: 17,000; other acts: Duran Duran, The Chicks & Brandi Carlile
    • Somerset Amphitheater - Somerset, WI (Live Nation venue) - capacity: 30,000
    Target open dates: 08/27 - 008/31, and 09/02/23
    Xcel open dates: 08/25 - 09/02/23
    State Fair open dates: 09/01 - 09/02/23
    Somerset open dates: 08/25 - 08/28, and 08/30 - 09/02/23

    - The home of movie riffing (I'm watching MST3K as I type this). Somerset's kind of a cheat, but it's Live Nation & New York's football teams are guilty of worse.

    2. Milwaukee: 09/03 - 09/05/23
    • Fiserv Forum, Milwaukee, WI (ASM Global venue) - capacity: 18,000
    • American Family Insurance Ampitheater (Live Nation venue) - capacity: 23,000
    • Alpine Valley - East Troy, WI (Live Nation venue) - capacity: 37,000
    Fiserv open dates: 09/03 - 09/05/23
    AFI Amp. open dates: 09/03 - 09/05/23
    Alpine Valley open dates: 09/03 - 09/05/23

    - Is a return to Yieldwaukee in the works? With Chicago rumored, it's hard to say. But they booked Fresno & Sacramento last year, so anything's possible lol.

    3. Chicago: 09/05 - 09/08/23 (one, or two nights)
    • United Center, Chicago - capacity: 23,500
    • Huntington Bank Pavilion, Northerly Island (Live Nation venue) - capacity: 30,000
    • Alpine Valley - East Troy, WI (Live Nation venue) - capacity: 37,000
    UC open dates: 09/05 - 09/08/23
    Huntington open dates: 09/05 - 09/08/23
    Alpine Valley open dates: 09/05 - 09/08/23

    - I don't care how often they play Chicago, I love Chicago. Love the food, love the city. Chicago!

    4. Indiana: 09/08 - 09/11/23
    • Gainbridge Fieldhouse, Indianapolis - capacity: 19,000
    • Ruoff Music Center, Noblesville (Live Nation venue) - capacity: 24,800
    Gainbridge open dates: 09/08 & 09/09, and 09/11/23
    Ruoff open dates: 09/10 & 09/11/23

    - I hear Muncie is as close to Pawnee as it gets in real life. I'd totally take half a day to go find Gerry's vacation home (editor's note: I wrote this draft earlier in the month & the Pumpkins just booked Ruoff on 09/09 ;) ).

    5/5.5?. Lincoln (Help Me Spock, Help Me) aka "Carry On My Wayward Sons": 09/11 - 09/15/23
    • Pinnacle Bank Arena (ASM Global venue), Lincoln, NE - capacity: 14,600
    • Intrust Banka Arena (ASM Global venue), Wichita, KS - capacity: 15,400
    • T-Mobile Center (ASM Global venue), Kansas City, MO - capacity: 19,250
    Pinnacle open dates: 09/11 - 09/15/23
    Intrust open dates: 09/11 - 09/15/23
    T-Mobile open dates: 09/11 - 09/15/23

    - Coming up on 9 years, but it's plausible. If not this year, then the next. When you're going coast to coast, why NOT stop on the way? One stop, two stops, or none. Definitely adding an extra day for travel.

    6. Albuquerque, NM: 09/16 - 09/19/23
    • Isleta Ampitheatre (Live Nation venue), Albuquerque, NM - capacity: 15,500
    Isleta open dates: 09/16 - 09/19/23

    - I don't know much about this venue, but NM is due, it's on the way & it's Live Nation. Next stop: Vegas!

    7. Las Vegas: 09/19 - 09/24/23
    • MGM Grand Arena, Las Vegas, NV - capacity: 17,000 (2022 venue)
    • Thomas & Mack Center, Las Vegas, NV - capacity: 18,000
    • T-Mobile Arena, Las Vegas , NV - capacity: 20,000
    MGM Grand open dates: 09/19 - 09/24/23
    Thomas & Mack open dates: 09/19 - 09/24/23
    T-Mobile Arena open dates: 09/19 - 09/24/23

    - I had floor tix & a sweet hotel set aside last year. So did about 15,000 of us lol. Let's get a do-over before Ohana, yeah?

    8. Ohana Fest: 09/29 - 10/01/23
    • Doheny State Beach, Dana Point, CA
    - It's Ed's festival. Either PJ, or the Earthlings on Sunday?

    :end of 2023 run:

    Thoughts? ;)
    Nice draft!

    Scrap Lincoln and New Mexico.

    Lock in one night in Twin Cities vs. two

    Scrap Milwaukee and lock in two in Chicago.

    then I think you have what’s likely if anything happens

    Minnesota - 1
    Chicago - 2
    Noblesville - 1
    Vegas - 1
    Ohana - 1 or 2 (could do 2 weekends likely if PJ)

    based on the 7 dates there, I’m going to suggest that though would be a lot of cross country mileage perhaps Boston gets its dates with 2 at Mansfield and maybe Seattle gets 2 at Climate Pledge to bring the total to 10 or 11,   Don’t think there’s much there beyond that.

    Truthfully, not confident anything happens to be honest. If Noblesville gets another booking for the 10th then we likely have our answer.
  • Doug87Doug87 Posts: 442
    edited March 2023
    Of note, if you buy into the semi retirement which I do (think it’s weird that they split up the legs last year though maybe had to do with Europe being needed for Summer), then getting some dates in 2023 done so that there are less to do in 2024 makes sense.

    see Neil Young’s 2018 and 2019 tour history for what semi retirement could look like.

    Basically, let’s go so we can get back  =)
    Post edited by Doug87 on
  • Go AnimalGo Animal Posts: 3,920
    edited March 2023
    Doug87 said:
    Go Animal said:
    Thoughts? ;)
    Nice draft!

    Scrap Lincoln and New Mexico.

    Lock in one night in Twin Cities vs. two

    Scrap Milwaukee and lock in two in Chicago.

    then I think you have what’s likely if anything happens

    Minnesota - 1
    Chicago - 2
    Noblesville - 1
    Vegas - 1
    Ohana - 1 or 2 (could do 2 weekends likely if PJ)

    based on the 7 dates there, I’m going to suggest that though would be a lot of cross country mileage perhaps Boston gets its dates with 2 at Mansfield and maybe Seattle gets 2 at Climate Pledge to bring the total to 10 or 11,   Don’t think there’s much there beyond that.

    Truthfully, not confident anything happens to be honest. If Noblesville gets another booking for the 10th then we likely have our answer.
    I was confident about New England a while ago. Now? Not so much. Feeling like it's 2024 for them, but regardless, I'll be there (play Hartford!)
    If Noblesville gets booked for 09/10 or not at all, there still a chance for a small 2018 style run, sans ball parks. Chicago is both home AND away. Ohana is too. Maybe 6 or 7 shows, with a couple 2-nighters? I have a few more versions queued (one with a pipe dream, lol).
    Post edited by Go Animal on
    PJ - 09/23/98: West Palm Beach II, 08/12/00: Tampa, 04/12/03: Orlando, 04/13/03: Tampa, 06/12/08: Tampa, 06/27/08: Hartford, 09/22/09: Seattle II, 04/11/16: Tampa, 05/01 & 05/02/16: MSG I & II, 09/18/21: Sea Hear Now, 10/01 & 10/02/21: Ohana Encore I & II, 05/06 & 05/07/22: Los Angeles I & II, 09/11/22: MSG, 09/16/22: Nashville, 09/02/23: St. Paul II, 09/07/23: Chicago II, 09/18 & 09/19/23: Austin I & II

    EV - 08/04 & 08/05/08: (Eddie solo, w/Liam Finn) NYC I & II, 11/27 & 11/28/12: (Eddie solo, w/Glen Hansard) Orlando I & II, 02/09 & 02/10/22: (Eddie & the Earthlings) Chicago I & II, 09/30/23: (Eddie & the Earthlings) Ohana Festival

    Song Wishlist: Oceans, Brother, Alone, Let Me Sleep, full W.M.A., Hold On, all of Vitalogy or Satan's Bed, Gremmie Out Of Control, Mankind, Around The Bend (full band), Don't Gimme No Lip, Pilate, Push Me Pull Me, All Those Yesterdays, Rival, Parting Ways (full band), You Are, Bu$hleaguer, Inside Job, low octave Driftin', Strangest Tribe, Other Side, Undone, Of The Earth, Love Reign O'er Me, Comfortably Numb, and the Mamasan Trilogy.

    Wanted Posters: WPB '98, Tampa/WPB '00, Tampa '03, EV Batmobile '08        ISO: any picks, or setlists from any of my shows!

  • Doug87Doug87 Posts: 442
    edited March 2023
    Go Animal said:
    Doug87 said:
    Go Animal said:
    Thoughts? ;)
    Nice draft!

    Scrap Lincoln and New Mexico.

    Lock in one night in Twin Cities vs. two

    Scrap Milwaukee and lock in two in Chicago.

    then I think you have what’s likely if anything happens

    Minnesota - 1
    Chicago - 2
    Noblesville - 1
    Vegas - 1
    Ohana - 1 or 2 (could do 2 weekends likely if PJ)

    based on the 7 dates there, I’m going to suggest that though would be a lot of cross country mileage perhaps Boston gets its dates with 2 at Mansfield and maybe Seattle gets 2 at Climate Pledge to bring the total to 10 or 11,   Don’t think there’s much there beyond that.

    Truthfully, not confident anything happens to be honest. If Noblesville gets another booking for the 10th then we likely have our answer.
    I was confident about New England a while ago. Now? Not so much. Feeling like it's 2024 for them, but regardless, I'll be there (play Hartford!)
    If Noblesville gets booked for 09/10 or not at all, they’re still a chance for a small 2018 style run, sans ball parks. Chicago is both home AND away. Ohana is too. Maybe 6 or 7 shows, with a couple 2-nighters? I have a few more versions queued (one with a pipe dream, lol).
    I’d take Noblesville as a sign if the 10th falls through personally.

    Agree that it’s possible for small Midwest run, Vegas, and Ohana being it as a 6-7 show run.

    If they dropped the 10th though, I’d see it as the juice wasn’t worth the squeeze for them.

    Remember that Home and Away was all 35k+ capacity venues I believe.

    Currently, none of the rumored venues listed meet that threshold and so you’re talking about a big difference financially.

    A lot easier to commit to only 7 dates when they are all ballparks/stadium vs. arenas/sheds.
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  • RatherStarvedRatherStarved Posts: 4,099
    It all sounds plausible but if there was a shred of evidence that they are planning anything it would be more fun to speculate.  
    PJ: 2013: London (ON); Buffalo; 2014: Cincinnati; 2016: Sunrise, Miami, Toronto 1-2, Wrigley 2; 2018: London (UK) 1, Milan, Padova, Sea 2, Wrigley 1-2, Fenway 1-2; 2021: SHN, Ohana, Ohana Encore 1-2; 2022: LA 1-2, Phx, Oak 1-2, Fresno, Copenhagen, Hyde Park 1-2; Quebec, Ottawa, Hamilton, Toronto; MSG, Camden, Nashville, Louisville, St. Louis, OKC; 2023: St. Paul 1-2, Chicago 1-2; Fort Worth 2; Austin 1-2
     
    EV Solo: 2017 Louisville and Franklin, 2018 Ohana, 2019 Innings Fest, Berlin, Düsseldorf, Dublin and Ohana; 2021 Ohana Friday (from beach) and Saturday; 2022 Earthlings Newark; 2023 Innings Fest and Benoraya 1-2.

    Gutted:  London 2 2018, Sacramento 2022, Noblesville 2023
  • Dirty Frank ZDirty Frank Z Posts: 2,850
    No way they play the Target Center in Minneapolis. Just sayin
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  • Go AnimalGo Animal Posts: 3,920
    edited March 2023
    No way they play the Target Center in Minneapolis. Just sayin
    Any particular reason? Just wondering (I listed 3 other possibilities, but unsure why they wouldn't/couldn't play there).
    Post edited by Go Animal on
    PJ - 09/23/98: West Palm Beach II, 08/12/00: Tampa, 04/12/03: Orlando, 04/13/03: Tampa, 06/12/08: Tampa, 06/27/08: Hartford, 09/22/09: Seattle II, 04/11/16: Tampa, 05/01 & 05/02/16: MSG I & II, 09/18/21: Sea Hear Now, 10/01 & 10/02/21: Ohana Encore I & II, 05/06 & 05/07/22: Los Angeles I & II, 09/11/22: MSG, 09/16/22: Nashville, 09/02/23: St. Paul II, 09/07/23: Chicago II, 09/18 & 09/19/23: Austin I & II

    EV - 08/04 & 08/05/08: (Eddie solo, w/Liam Finn) NYC I & II, 11/27 & 11/28/12: (Eddie solo, w/Glen Hansard) Orlando I & II, 02/09 & 02/10/22: (Eddie & the Earthlings) Chicago I & II, 09/30/23: (Eddie & the Earthlings) Ohana Festival

    Song Wishlist: Oceans, Brother, Alone, Let Me Sleep, full W.M.A., Hold On, all of Vitalogy or Satan's Bed, Gremmie Out Of Control, Mankind, Around The Bend (full band), Don't Gimme No Lip, Pilate, Push Me Pull Me, All Those Yesterdays, Rival, Parting Ways (full band), You Are, Bu$hleaguer, Inside Job, low octave Driftin', Strangest Tribe, Other Side, Undone, Of The Earth, Love Reign O'er Me, Comfortably Numb, and the Mamasan Trilogy.

    Wanted Posters: WPB '98, Tampa/WPB '00, Tampa '03, EV Batmobile '08        ISO: any picks, or setlists from any of my shows!

  • Dirty Frank ZDirty Frank Z Posts: 2,850
    Go Animal said:
    No way they play the Target Center in Minneapolis. Just sayin
    Any particular reason? Just wondering (I listed 3 other possibilities, but unsure why they wouldn't/couldn't play there).
    They've played the Xcel Energy Center in St Paul the four previous times when in the state. 2003, 2006 and 2014. They've only once played Target Center and that was before the Xcel Center was built. The Target Center is outdated and pretty crappy. 

    Also, I cant stress this enough....

    I'm from St. Paul and have my biases.

    All in good fun!

    6-16-03 St Paul
    6-26-06 St Paul
    6-27-06 St Paul
    7-2-011 EV MPLS
    9-3-011 Alpine
    9-4-011 Alpine
    9-22-012 Atlanta
    7-19-013 Wrigley
    10-9-014 Lincoln
    10-14-014 Memphis
    10-17-014 Moline
    10-19-014 St Paul
    10-22-014 Denver
    9-26-015 New York City
    8-20-016 Wrigley
    8-22-016 Wrigley
    8-13-018 Missoula
    8-18-018 Wrigley
    8-20-018 Wrigley 
    9-18-022 St. Louis
  • Dirty Frank ZDirty Frank Z Posts: 2,850
    And the State Fair grounds are lovely, but I doubt Pearl Jam would play there during the Great Minnesota Get Together. Its a whole thing. As fun as it would be, and I would personally love it; I cant see that happening with the vibe that goes with what the State Fair does. 
    6-16-03 St Paul
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    6-27-06 St Paul
    7-2-011 EV MPLS
    9-3-011 Alpine
    9-4-011 Alpine
    9-22-012 Atlanta
    7-19-013 Wrigley
    10-9-014 Lincoln
    10-14-014 Memphis
    10-17-014 Moline
    10-19-014 St Paul
    10-22-014 Denver
    9-26-015 New York City
    8-20-016 Wrigley
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    8-18-018 Wrigley
    8-20-018 Wrigley 
    9-18-022 St. Louis
  • PJNBPJNB Posts: 12,625
    St. Paul to start off the tour would be great. 
  • Go AnimalGo Animal Posts: 3,920
    edited March 2023
    Go Animal said:
    No way they play the Target Center in Minneapolis. Just sayin
    Any particular reason? Just wondering (I listed 3 other possibilities, but unsure why they wouldn't/couldn't play there).
    They've played the Xcel Energy Center in St Paul the four previous times when in the state. 2003, 2006 and 2014. They've only once played Target Center and that was before the Xcel Center was built. The Target Center is outdated and pretty crappy. 

    Also, I cant stress this enough....

    I'm from St. Paul and have my biases.

    All in good fun!

    And the State Fair grounds are lovely, but I doubt Pearl Jam would play there during the Great Minnesota Get Together. Its a whole thing. As fun as it would be, and I would personally love it; I cant see that happening with the vibe that goes with what the State Fair does. 

    Fair! That's why I listed all the options. There's a few folks on here chomping at the bit to see them at that State Fair since it's a big draw. But figured I'd slip Somerset in there just for the hell of it.
    PJ - 09/23/98: West Palm Beach II, 08/12/00: Tampa, 04/12/03: Orlando, 04/13/03: Tampa, 06/12/08: Tampa, 06/27/08: Hartford, 09/22/09: Seattle II, 04/11/16: Tampa, 05/01 & 05/02/16: MSG I & II, 09/18/21: Sea Hear Now, 10/01 & 10/02/21: Ohana Encore I & II, 05/06 & 05/07/22: Los Angeles I & II, 09/11/22: MSG, 09/16/22: Nashville, 09/02/23: St. Paul II, 09/07/23: Chicago II, 09/18 & 09/19/23: Austin I & II

    EV - 08/04 & 08/05/08: (Eddie solo, w/Liam Finn) NYC I & II, 11/27 & 11/28/12: (Eddie solo, w/Glen Hansard) Orlando I & II, 02/09 & 02/10/22: (Eddie & the Earthlings) Chicago I & II, 09/30/23: (Eddie & the Earthlings) Ohana Festival

    Song Wishlist: Oceans, Brother, Alone, Let Me Sleep, full W.M.A., Hold On, all of Vitalogy or Satan's Bed, Gremmie Out Of Control, Mankind, Around The Bend (full band), Don't Gimme No Lip, Pilate, Push Me Pull Me, All Those Yesterdays, Rival, Parting Ways (full band), You Are, Bu$hleaguer, Inside Job, low octave Driftin', Strangest Tribe, Other Side, Undone, Of The Earth, Love Reign O'er Me, Comfortably Numb, and the Mamasan Trilogy.

    Wanted Posters: WPB '98, Tampa/WPB '00, Tampa '03, EV Batmobile '08        ISO: any picks, or setlists from any of my shows!

  • Get_RightGet_Right Posts: 12,440
    All in good fun but at the end of the day you know they are playing few dates in the northeast whenever they go out. Kansas, Nebraska, Wisconsin, and Indiana? Not sure that could happen with a new record.  =)  
  • Go AnimalGo Animal Posts: 3,920
    Get_Right said:
    All in good fun but at the end of the day you know they are playing few dates in the northeast whenever they go out. Kansas, Nebraska, Wisconsin, and Indiana? Not sure that could happen with a new record.  =)  
    New record tour is next year ;) this is just old haunts on the way!
    PJ - 09/23/98: West Palm Beach II, 08/12/00: Tampa, 04/12/03: Orlando, 04/13/03: Tampa, 06/12/08: Tampa, 06/27/08: Hartford, 09/22/09: Seattle II, 04/11/16: Tampa, 05/01 & 05/02/16: MSG I & II, 09/18/21: Sea Hear Now, 10/01 & 10/02/21: Ohana Encore I & II, 05/06 & 05/07/22: Los Angeles I & II, 09/11/22: MSG, 09/16/22: Nashville, 09/02/23: St. Paul II, 09/07/23: Chicago II, 09/18 & 09/19/23: Austin I & II

    EV - 08/04 & 08/05/08: (Eddie solo, w/Liam Finn) NYC I & II, 11/27 & 11/28/12: (Eddie solo, w/Glen Hansard) Orlando I & II, 02/09 & 02/10/22: (Eddie & the Earthlings) Chicago I & II, 09/30/23: (Eddie & the Earthlings) Ohana Festival

    Song Wishlist: Oceans, Brother, Alone, Let Me Sleep, full W.M.A., Hold On, all of Vitalogy or Satan's Bed, Gremmie Out Of Control, Mankind, Around The Bend (full band), Don't Gimme No Lip, Pilate, Push Me Pull Me, All Those Yesterdays, Rival, Parting Ways (full band), You Are, Bu$hleaguer, Inside Job, low octave Driftin', Strangest Tribe, Other Side, Undone, Of The Earth, Love Reign O'er Me, Comfortably Numb, and the Mamasan Trilogy.

    Wanted Posters: WPB '98, Tampa/WPB '00, Tampa '03, EV Batmobile '08        ISO: any picks, or setlists from any of my shows!

  • Go AnimalGo Animal Posts: 3,920
    Get_Right said:
    All in good fun but at the end of the day you know they are playing few dates in the northeast whenever they go out. Kansas, Nebraska, Wisconsin, and Indiana? Not sure that could happen with a new record.  =)  
    To be fair, a lot of that is spitballing. Geared towards their preferred promoters & Jeff's love of playing off the beaten path.

    V.10 or 11 will be MUCH more streamlined. Dare I say U.S. 2018-ish.
    PJ - 09/23/98: West Palm Beach II, 08/12/00: Tampa, 04/12/03: Orlando, 04/13/03: Tampa, 06/12/08: Tampa, 06/27/08: Hartford, 09/22/09: Seattle II, 04/11/16: Tampa, 05/01 & 05/02/16: MSG I & II, 09/18/21: Sea Hear Now, 10/01 & 10/02/21: Ohana Encore I & II, 05/06 & 05/07/22: Los Angeles I & II, 09/11/22: MSG, 09/16/22: Nashville, 09/02/23: St. Paul II, 09/07/23: Chicago II, 09/18 & 09/19/23: Austin I & II

    EV - 08/04 & 08/05/08: (Eddie solo, w/Liam Finn) NYC I & II, 11/27 & 11/28/12: (Eddie solo, w/Glen Hansard) Orlando I & II, 02/09 & 02/10/22: (Eddie & the Earthlings) Chicago I & II, 09/30/23: (Eddie & the Earthlings) Ohana Festival

    Song Wishlist: Oceans, Brother, Alone, Let Me Sleep, full W.M.A., Hold On, all of Vitalogy or Satan's Bed, Gremmie Out Of Control, Mankind, Around The Bend (full band), Don't Gimme No Lip, Pilate, Push Me Pull Me, All Those Yesterdays, Rival, Parting Ways (full band), You Are, Bu$hleaguer, Inside Job, low octave Driftin', Strangest Tribe, Other Side, Undone, Of The Earth, Love Reign O'er Me, Comfortably Numb, and the Mamasan Trilogy.

    Wanted Posters: WPB '98, Tampa/WPB '00, Tampa '03, EV Batmobile '08        ISO: any picks, or setlists from any of my shows!

  • ZodZod Posts: 9,945
    Go Animal said:
    I suspect PJ will NOT play Europe this year.
    Agreed. Ed & the Earthlings, though? That record hit #1 & not just in the U.S.

    I've got a hunch...

    Maybe? Chad Smith is touring with RHCP, Glen Hansard has his tours, and Josh Klinghoffer is touring with Janes Addiction.

    I get the feeling, due to their other projects, it might be rarity for the stars to align for band to tour.   Glad I got to go when I did :)
  • demetriosdemetrios Canada Posts: 87,335
    Get_Right said:
    All in good fun but at the end of the day you know they are playing few dates in the northeast whenever they go out. Maine, New Hampshire, New Brunswick and Nova Scotia. Not sure that could happen with a new record.  =)  
    I know right?   :D 
  • darthvedderdarthvedder Posts: 2,465
    Go Animal said:
    No way they play the Target Center in Minneapolis. Just sayin
    Any particular reason? Just wondering (I listed 3 other possibilities, but unsure why they wouldn't/couldn't play there).
    They've played the Xcel Energy Center in St Paul the four previous times when in the state. 2003, 2006 and 2014. They've only once played Target Center and that was before the Xcel Center was built. The Target Center is outdated and pretty crappy. 

    Also, I cant stress this enough....

    I'm from St. Paul and have my biases.

    All in good fun!


    They seem to like playing outdated and crappy venues. They played The Forum and Oakland Arena last year when there are newer buildings not far away.
  • Dirty Frank ZDirty Frank Z Posts: 2,850
    Go Animal said:
    No way they play the Target Center in Minneapolis. Just sayin
    Any particular reason? Just wondering (I listed 3 other possibilities, but unsure why they wouldn't/couldn't play there).
    They've played the Xcel Energy Center in St Paul the four previous times when in the state. 2003, 2006 and 2014. They've only once played Target Center and that was before the Xcel Center was built. The Target Center is outdated and pretty crappy. 

    Also, I cant stress this enough....

    I'm from St. Paul and have my biases.

    All in good fun!


    They seem to like playing outdated and crappy venues. They played The Forum and Oakland Arena last year when there are newer buildings not far away.
    I think there's a huge national confusion. The Twin Cities are Two major cities with a huge sprawling metropolitan. We have alot of music venues and sports buildings. The downtowns of St Paul and Minneapolis are literally 8-10 miles from each other. The hockey building (Xcel Center) is in St Paul and was built in 2000. The basketball building (Target Center) is in Minneapolis and built in 1989 with a renovation a couple years ago. 

    Point being....Pearl Jam hasn't played the Target Center since 1998. The Target Center has more seating in the upper bowl than the lower bowl/floor. I do not think the Target Center meets the credentials the Ten Club would be looking for in regards to seating. 

    I have no clue what other cities are like or how good or crappy the buildings Pearl Jam plays outside of my area. That said, I would be shocked if they played Target Center. Shocked. and I think locally speaking, when a band does announce a show at the Target Center, there is a sigh. 
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  • droptheleash9droptheleash9 Posts: 1,327
    edited March 2023
    At this point, I'm just assuming they have no plans to tour in 2024. If they do announce dates, great! But I'm not holding my breath... I feel like we usually at this point have some hints/nuggets of information and there seems to be none of that thus far...Hope I'm wrong!
  • Doug87Doug87 Posts: 442
    edited March 2023
    At this point, I'm just assuming they have no plans to tour in 2024. If they do announce dates, great! But I'm not holding my breath... I feel like we usually at this point have some hints/nuggets of information and there seems to be none of that thus far...Hope I'm wrong!
    Where there’s smoke, there’s fire, and there is no smoke just yet.
  • PJNBPJNB Posts: 12,625
    At this point, I'm just assuming they have no plans to tour in 2024. If they do announce dates, great! But I'm not holding my breath... I feel like we usually at this point have some hints/nuggets of information and there seems to be none of that thus far...Hope I'm wrong!
    We should probably get the 2023 tour out of the way first before we start worrying about 2024 shouldn’t we?
  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 28,258
    PJNB said:
    At this point, I'm just assuming they have no plans to tour in 2024. If they do announce dates, great! But I'm not holding my breath... I feel like we usually at this point have some hints/nuggets of information and there seems to be none of that thus far...Hope I'm wrong!
    We should probably get the 2023 tour out of the way first before we start worrying about 2024 shouldn’t we?
    The make believe in fairytale land of 23 🤣🤣🤣 please thank the lord I’ve stopped waiting on these guys years ago! My summer plans are set and it doesn’t include waiting on these old timers to want to play live music for their fan base 
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