The 2023 Tour Speculation Thread - Potential Dates/Cities, Logistics/Data & Wishlists **UPDATED**

Doug87

Fastrichie said:

My wife told me 2 weeks ago she heard Pearl Jam in Chicago in September. I didn’t really believe her! Maybe she was right hopefully!! 

There’s been talk about Northerly and the United Center for a little bit now.

Today was 1st day I saw specific dates for Chicago mentioned.

JojoRice

My 40th birthday is September 3. Fingers crossed for a birthday show!

camhendy

So if it maps something like Minneapolis --> Chicago --> Noblesville from the beginning of Sept to Sept 10 where do we think it could go from there? It seems like Mansfield is in play so you would think they go east. Detroit/Ohio/Pitt/Baltimore/Philly/NY/Hartford/Boston. It's taking shape a little which is exciting 

Foriginal Sin

Go Animal said:

Spring is here. Looks like there WERE plans for a short Spring run, but those got shelved. Matt has been jamming with 3rd Secret, Ed's staying active, but the thing that really raised my eyebrows was Stone appearing on the new Iggy Pop record. The one produced by Andrew Watt.

Which leads me to believe we're closer to a new record than we realize. Watt always has 2 or 3 records in the works, and with his wide network of clients, it's almost like the late 80's with Jeff Lynne. "Hey, while we're making this record... you wanna be on THIS record?", "Hey, come play on mine too." etc. etc.

I know they've demoing for sure since last year. The only thing I don't know, is how far along on the record they are. Watt takes a different approach than Brendan, or PJ themselves.

I started the thread with the 2016 tour as inspiration, but realized a little while ago, that it's more like 2008 at this point. Demo here, record there, quick run of 11-13 shows, a mix of outdoor venues & arenas. Just add 15 years, a few family members, and Ohana fest

There's always room for festival dates, or special gigs like Third Man, but I feel this (or something like this) will be what we have in store.

As always, if this isn't the plan, consider it a pitch

Prospective 2023 Tour V.9 (aka "I Want More Live Shows, F***er/I Ain't Done Yet")

1. The Twin Cities: 08/25 - 09/02/23 (one, or two nights)

• Target Center, Minneapolis (ASM Global venue) - capacity: 20,500
• Xcel Energy Center, St. Paul - capacity: 20,500
• Minnesota State Fair (The Grandstand) - capacity: 17,000; other acts: Duran Duran, The Chicks & Brandi Carlile
• Somerset Amphitheater - Somerset, WI (Live Nation venue) - capacity: 30,000

Target open dates: 08/27 - 08/31, and 09/02/23
Xcel open dates: 08/25 - 09/02/23
State Fair open dates: 09/01 - 09/02/23
Somerset open dates: 08/25 - 08/28, and 08/30 - 09/02/23

- The home of movie riffing (I'm watching MST3K as I type this). Somerset's kind of a cheat, but it's Live Nation & New York's football teams are guilty of worse.

2. Milwaukee: 09/03 - 09/05/23

• Fiserv Forum, Milwaukee, WI (ASM Global venue) - capacity: 18,000
• American Family Insurance Ampitheater (Live Nation venue) - capacity: 23,000
• Alpine Valley - East Troy, WI (Live Nation venue) - capacity: 37,000

Fiserv open dates: 09/03 - 09/05/23

AFI Amp. open dates: 09/03 - 09/05/23

Alpine Valley open dates: 09/03 - 09/05/23

- Is a return to Yieldwaukee in the works? With Chicago rumored, it's hard to say. But they booked Fresno & Sacramento last year, so anything's possible lol.

3. Chicago: 09/05 - 09/08/23 (one, or two nights)

• United Center, Chicago - capacity: 23,500
• Huntington Bank Pavilion, Northerly Island (Live Nation venue) - capacity: 30,000
• Alpine Valley - East Troy, WI (Live Nation venue) - capacity: 37,000

UC open dates: 09/05 - 09/08/23

Huntington open dates: 09/05 - 09/08/23

Alpine Valley open dates: 09/05 - 09/08/23

- I don't care how often they play Chicago, I love Chicago. Love the food, love the city. Chicago!

4. Indiana: 09/08 - 09/11/23

• Gainbridge Fieldhouse, Indianapolis - capacity: 19,000
• Ruoff Music Center, Noblesville (Live Nation venue) - capacity: 24,800

Gainbridge open dates: 09/08 & 09/09, and 09/11/23

Ruoff open dates: 09/10 & 09/11/23

- I hear Muncie is as close to Pawnee as it gets in real life. I'd totally take half a day to go find Gerry's vacation home (editor's note: I wrote this draft earlier in the month & the Pumpkins just booked Ruoff on 09/09 ).

5/5.5?. Lincoln (Help Me Spock, Help Me) aka "Carry On My Wayward Sons": 09/11 - 09/15/23

• Pinnacle Bank Arena (ASM Global venue), Lincoln, NE - capacity: 14,600
• Intrust Banka Arena (ASM Global venue), Wichita, KS - capacity: 15,400
• T-Mobile Center (ASM Global venue), Kansas City, MO - capacity: 19,250
  

Pinnacle open dates: 09/11 - 09/15/23

Intrust open dates: 09/11 - 09/15/23

T-Mobile open dates: 09/11 - 09/15/23

- Coming up on 9 years, but it's plausible. If not this year, then the next. When you're going coast to coast, why NOT stop on the way? One stop, two stops, or none. Definitely adding an extra day for travel.

6. Albuquerque, NM: 09/16 - 09/19/23

• Isleta Ampitheatre (Live Nation venue), Albuquerque, NM - capacity: 15,500
  

Isleta open dates: 09/16 - 09/19/23

- I don't know much about this venue, but NM is due, it's on the way & it's Live Nation. Next stop: Vegas!

7. Las Vegas: 09/19 - 09/24/23

• MGM Grand Arena, Las Vegas, NV - capacity: 17,000 (2022 venue)
  
• Thomas & Mack Center, Las Vegas, NV - capacity: 18,000
• T-Mobile Arena, Las Vegas , NV - capacity: 20,000
  

MGM Grand open dates: 09/19 - 09/24/23

Thomas & Mack open dates: 09/19 - 09/24/23

T-Mobile Arena open dates: 09/19 - 09/24/23

- I had floor tix & a sweet hotel set aside last year. So did about 15,000 of us lol. Let's get a do-over before Ohana, yeah?

8. Ohana Fest: 09/29 - 10/01/23

• Doheny State Beach, Dana Point, CA
  

- It's Ed's festival. Either PJ, or the Earthlings on Sunday?

:end of 2023 run:

Thoughts?

Why skip Phoenix? 5th largest city in U.S. Sell out anytime they are there, Ed has a connection with family. Much rather be in Chandler/Scottsdale than Albuquerque 

RatherStarved

camhendy said:

So if it maps something like Minneapolis --> Chicago --> Noblesville from the beginning of Sept to Sept 10 where do we think it could go from there? It seems like Mansfield is in play so you would think they go east. Detroit/Ohio/Pitt/Baltimore/Philly/NY/Hartford/Boston. It's taking shape a little which is exciting 

I don’t exactly know how it makes sense if they are going west to east but I expect a Vegas show based on the dice post a few weeks ago.  

Go Animal

Foriginal Sin said:

Go Animal said:

Spring is here. Looks like there WERE plans for a short Spring run, but those got shelved. Matt has been jamming with 3rd Secret, Ed's staying active, but the thing that really raised my eyebrows was Stone appearing on the new Iggy Pop record. The one produced by Andrew Watt.

Which leads me to believe we're closer to a new record than we realize. Watt always has 2 or 3 records in the works, and with his wide network of clients, it's almost like the late 80's with Jeff Lynne. "Hey, while we're making this record... you wanna be on THIS record?", "Hey, come play on mine too." etc. etc.

I know they've demoing for sure since last year. The only thing I don't know, is how far along on the record they are. Watt takes a different approach than Brendan, or PJ themselves.

I started the thread with the 2016 tour as inspiration, but realized a little while ago, that it's more like 2008 at this point. Demo here, record there, quick run of 11-13 shows, a mix of outdoor venues & arenas. Just add 15 years, a few family members, and Ohana fest

There's always room for festival dates, or special gigs like Third Man, but I feel this (or something like this) will be what we have in store.

As always, if this isn't the plan, consider it a pitch

Prospective 2023 Tour V.9 (aka "I Want More Live Shows, F***er/I Ain't Done Yet")

1. The Twin Cities: 08/25 - 09/02/23 (one, or two nights)

• Target Center, Minneapolis (ASM Global venue) - capacity: 20,500
• Xcel Energy Center, St. Paul - capacity: 20,500
• Minnesota State Fair (The Grandstand) - capacity: 17,000; other acts: Duran Duran, The Chicks & Brandi Carlile
• Somerset Amphitheater - Somerset, WI (Live Nation venue) - capacity: 30,000

Target open dates: 08/27 - 08/31, and 09/02/23
Xcel open dates: 08/25 - 09/02/23
State Fair open dates: 09/01 - 09/02/23
Somerset open dates: 08/25 - 08/28, and 08/30 - 09/02/23

- The home of movie riffing (I'm watching MST3K as I type this). Somerset's kind of a cheat, but it's Live Nation & New York's football teams are guilty of worse.

2. Milwaukee: 09/03 - 09/05/23

• Fiserv Forum, Milwaukee, WI (ASM Global venue) - capacity: 18,000
• American Family Insurance Ampitheater (Live Nation venue) - capacity: 23,000
• Alpine Valley - East Troy, WI (Live Nation venue) - capacity: 37,000

Fiserv open dates: 09/03 - 09/05/23

AFI Amp. open dates: 09/03 - 09/05/23

Alpine Valley open dates: 09/03 - 09/05/23

- Is a return to Yieldwaukee in the works? With Chicago rumored, it's hard to say. But they booked Fresno & Sacramento last year, so anything's possible lol.

3. Chicago: 09/05 - 09/08/23 (one, or two nights)

• United Center, Chicago - capacity: 23,500
• Huntington Bank Pavilion, Northerly Island (Live Nation venue) - capacity: 30,000
• Alpine Valley - East Troy, WI (Live Nation venue) - capacity: 37,000

UC open dates: 09/05 - 09/08/23

Huntington open dates: 09/05 - 09/08/23

Alpine Valley open dates: 09/05 - 09/08/23

- I don't care how often they play Chicago, I love Chicago. Love the food, love the city. Chicago!

4. Indiana: 09/08 - 09/11/23

• Gainbridge Fieldhouse, Indianapolis - capacity: 19,000
• Ruoff Music Center, Noblesville (Live Nation venue) - capacity: 24,800

Gainbridge open dates: 09/08 & 09/09, and 09/11/23

Ruoff open dates: 09/10 & 09/11/23

- I hear Muncie is as close to Pawnee as it gets in real life. I'd totally take half a day to go find Gerry's vacation home (editor's note: I wrote this draft earlier in the month & the Pumpkins just booked Ruoff on 09/09 ).

5/5.5?. Lincoln (Help Me Spock, Help Me) aka "Carry On My Wayward Sons": 09/11 - 09/15/23

• Pinnacle Bank Arena (ASM Global venue), Lincoln, NE - capacity: 14,600
• Intrust Banka Arena (ASM Global venue), Wichita, KS - capacity: 15,400
• T-Mobile Center (ASM Global venue), Kansas City, MO - capacity: 19,250
  

Pinnacle open dates: 09/11 - 09/15/23

Intrust open dates: 09/11 - 09/15/23

T-Mobile open dates: 09/11 - 09/15/23

- Coming up on 9 years, but it's plausible. If not this year, then the next. When you're going coast to coast, why NOT stop on the way? One stop, two stops, or none. Definitely adding an extra day for travel.

6. Albuquerque, NM: 09/16 - 09/19/23

• Isleta Ampitheatre (Live Nation venue), Albuquerque, NM - capacity: 15,500
  

Isleta open dates: 09/16 - 09/19/23

- I don't know much about this venue, but NM is due, it's on the way & it's Live Nation. Next stop: Vegas!

7. Las Vegas: 09/19 - 09/24/23

• MGM Grand Arena, Las Vegas, NV - capacity: 17,000 (2022 venue)
  
• Thomas & Mack Center, Las Vegas, NV - capacity: 18,000
• T-Mobile Arena, Las Vegas , NV - capacity: 20,000
  

MGM Grand open dates: 09/19 - 09/24/23

Thomas & Mack open dates: 09/19 - 09/24/23

T-Mobile Arena open dates: 09/19 - 09/24/23

- I had floor tix & a sweet hotel set aside last year. So did about 15,000 of us lol. Let's get a do-over before Ohana, yeah?

8. Ohana Fest: 09/29 - 10/01/23

• Doheny State Beach, Dana Point, CA
  

- It's Ed's festival. Either PJ, or the Earthlings on Sunday?

:end of 2023 run:

Thoughts?

Why skip Phoenix? 5th largest city in U.S. Sell out anytime they are there, Ed has a connection with family. Much rather be in Chandler/Scottsdale than Albuquerque 

Played there last year. Maybe in 2024?

Foriginal Sin

Go Animal said:

Foriginal Sin said:

Go Animal said:

Spring is here. Looks like there WERE plans for a short Spring run, but those got shelved. Matt has been jamming with 3rd Secret, Ed's staying active, but the thing that really raised my eyebrows was Stone appearing on the new Iggy Pop record. The one produced by Andrew Watt.

Which leads me to believe we're closer to a new record than we realize. Watt always has 2 or 3 records in the works, and with his wide network of clients, it's almost like the late 80's with Jeff Lynne. "Hey, while we're making this record... you wanna be on THIS record?", "Hey, come play on mine too." etc. etc.

I know they've demoing for sure since last year. The only thing I don't know, is how far along on the record they are. Watt takes a different approach than Brendan, or PJ themselves.

I started the thread with the 2016 tour as inspiration, but realized a little while ago, that it's more like 2008 at this point. Demo here, record there, quick run of 11-13 shows, a mix of outdoor venues & arenas. Just add 15 years, a few family members, and Ohana fest

There's always room for festival dates, or special gigs like Third Man, but I feel this (or something like this) will be what we have in store.

As always, if this isn't the plan, consider it a pitch

Prospective 2023 Tour V.9 (aka "I Want More Live Shows, F***er/I Ain't Done Yet")

1. The Twin Cities: 08/25 - 09/02/23 (one, or two nights)

• Target Center, Minneapolis (ASM Global venue) - capacity: 20,500
• Xcel Energy Center, St. Paul - capacity: 20,500
• Minnesota State Fair (The Grandstand) - capacity: 17,000; other acts: Duran Duran, The Chicks & Brandi Carlile
• Somerset Amphitheater - Somerset, WI (Live Nation venue) - capacity: 30,000

Target open dates: 08/27 - 08/31, and 09/02/23
Xcel open dates: 08/25 - 09/02/23
State Fair open dates: 09/01 - 09/02/23
Somerset open dates: 08/25 - 08/28, and 08/30 - 09/02/23

- The home of movie riffing (I'm watching MST3K as I type this). Somerset's kind of a cheat, but it's Live Nation & New York's football teams are guilty of worse.

2. Milwaukee: 09/03 - 09/05/23

• Fiserv Forum, Milwaukee, WI (ASM Global venue) - capacity: 18,000
• American Family Insurance Ampitheater (Live Nation venue) - capacity: 23,000
• Alpine Valley - East Troy, WI (Live Nation venue) - capacity: 37,000

Fiserv open dates: 09/03 - 09/05/23

AFI Amp. open dates: 09/03 - 09/05/23

Alpine Valley open dates: 09/03 - 09/05/23

- Is a return to Yieldwaukee in the works? With Chicago rumored, it's hard to say. But they booked Fresno & Sacramento last year, so anything's possible lol.

3. Chicago: 09/05 - 09/08/23 (one, or two nights)

• United Center, Chicago - capacity: 23,500
• Huntington Bank Pavilion, Northerly Island (Live Nation venue) - capacity: 30,000
• Alpine Valley - East Troy, WI (Live Nation venue) - capacity: 37,000

UC open dates: 09/05 - 09/08/23

Huntington open dates: 09/05 - 09/08/23

Alpine Valley open dates: 09/05 - 09/08/23

- I don't care how often they play Chicago, I love Chicago. Love the food, love the city. Chicago!

4. Indiana: 09/08 - 09/11/23

• Gainbridge Fieldhouse, Indianapolis - capacity: 19,000
• Ruoff Music Center, Noblesville (Live Nation venue) - capacity: 24,800

Gainbridge open dates: 09/08 & 09/09, and 09/11/23

Ruoff open dates: 09/10 & 09/11/23

- I hear Muncie is as close to Pawnee as it gets in real life. I'd totally take half a day to go find Gerry's vacation home (editor's note: I wrote this draft earlier in the month & the Pumpkins just booked Ruoff on 09/09 ).

5/5.5?. Lincoln (Help Me Spock, Help Me) aka "Carry On My Wayward Sons": 09/11 - 09/15/23

• Pinnacle Bank Arena (ASM Global venue), Lincoln, NE - capacity: 14,600
• Intrust Banka Arena (ASM Global venue), Wichita, KS - capacity: 15,400
• T-Mobile Center (ASM Global venue), Kansas City, MO - capacity: 19,250
  

Pinnacle open dates: 09/11 - 09/15/23

Intrust open dates: 09/11 - 09/15/23

T-Mobile open dates: 09/11 - 09/15/23

- Coming up on 9 years, but it's plausible. If not this year, then the next. When you're going coast to coast, why NOT stop on the way? One stop, two stops, or none. Definitely adding an extra day for travel.

6. Albuquerque, NM: 09/16 - 09/19/23

• Isleta Ampitheatre (Live Nation venue), Albuquerque, NM - capacity: 15,500
  

Isleta open dates: 09/16 - 09/19/23

- I don't know much about this venue, but NM is due, it's on the way & it's Live Nation. Next stop: Vegas!

7. Las Vegas: 09/19 - 09/24/23

• MGM Grand Arena, Las Vegas, NV - capacity: 17,000 (2022 venue)
  
• Thomas & Mack Center, Las Vegas, NV - capacity: 18,000
• T-Mobile Arena, Las Vegas , NV - capacity: 20,000
  

MGM Grand open dates: 09/19 - 09/24/23

Thomas & Mack open dates: 09/19 - 09/24/23

T-Mobile Arena open dates: 09/19 - 09/24/23

- I had floor tix & a sweet hotel set aside last year. So did about 15,000 of us lol. Let's get a do-over before Ohana, yeah?

8. Ohana Fest: 09/29 - 10/01/23

• Doheny State Beach, Dana Point, CA
  

- It's Ed's festival. Either PJ, or the Earthlings on Sunday?

:end of 2023 run:

Thoughts?

Why skip Phoenix? 5th largest city in U.S. Sell out anytime they are there, Ed has a connection with family. Much rather be in Chandler/Scottsdale than Albuquerque 

Played there last year. Maybe in 2024?

By that rational they wouldn’t be heading anywhere near California 

Go Animal

Foriginal Sin said:

Go Animal said:

Foriginal Sin said:

Go Animal said:

Spring is here. Looks like there WERE plans for a short Spring run, but those got shelved. Matt has been jamming with 3rd Secret, Ed's staying active, but the thing that really raised my eyebrows was Stone appearing on the new Iggy Pop record. The one produced by Andrew Watt.

Which leads me to believe we're closer to a new record than we realize. Watt always has 2 or 3 records in the works, and with his wide network of clients, it's almost like the late 80's with Jeff Lynne. "Hey, while we're making this record... you wanna be on THIS record?", "Hey, come play on mine too." etc. etc.

I know they've demoing for sure since last year. The only thing I don't know, is how far along on the record they are. Watt takes a different approach than Brendan, or PJ themselves.

I started the thread with the 2016 tour as inspiration, but realized a little while ago, that it's more like 2008 at this point. Demo here, record there, quick run of 11-13 shows, a mix of outdoor venues & arenas. Just add 15 years, a few family members, and Ohana fest

There's always room for festival dates, or special gigs like Third Man, but I feel this (or something like this) will be what we have in store.

As always, if this isn't the plan, consider it a pitch

Prospective 2023 Tour V.9 (aka "I Want More Live Shows, F***er/I Ain't Done Yet")

1. The Twin Cities: 08/25 - 09/02/23 (one, or two nights)

• Target Center, Minneapolis (ASM Global venue) - capacity: 20,500
• Xcel Energy Center, St. Paul - capacity: 20,500
• Minnesota State Fair (The Grandstand) - capacity: 17,000; other acts: Duran Duran, The Chicks & Brandi Carlile
• Somerset Amphitheater - Somerset, WI (Live Nation venue) - capacity: 30,000

Target open dates: 08/27 - 08/31, and 09/02/23
Xcel open dates: 08/25 - 09/02/23
State Fair open dates: 09/01 - 09/02/23
Somerset open dates: 08/25 - 08/28, and 08/30 - 09/02/23

- The home of movie riffing (I'm watching MST3K as I type this). Somerset's kind of a cheat, but it's Live Nation & New York's football teams are guilty of worse.

2. Milwaukee: 09/03 - 09/05/23

• Fiserv Forum, Milwaukee, WI (ASM Global venue) - capacity: 18,000
• American Family Insurance Ampitheater (Live Nation venue) - capacity: 23,000
• Alpine Valley - East Troy, WI (Live Nation venue) - capacity: 37,000

Fiserv open dates: 09/03 - 09/05/23

AFI Amp. open dates: 09/03 - 09/05/23

Alpine Valley open dates: 09/03 - 09/05/23

- Is a return to Yieldwaukee in the works? With Chicago rumored, it's hard to say. But they booked Fresno & Sacramento last year, so anything's possible lol.

3. Chicago: 09/05 - 09/08/23 (one, or two nights)

• United Center, Chicago - capacity: 23,500
• Huntington Bank Pavilion, Northerly Island (Live Nation venue) - capacity: 30,000
• Alpine Valley - East Troy, WI (Live Nation venue) - capacity: 37,000

UC open dates: 09/05 - 09/08/23

Huntington open dates: 09/05 - 09/08/23

Alpine Valley open dates: 09/05 - 09/08/23

- I don't care how often they play Chicago, I love Chicago. Love the food, love the city. Chicago!

4. Indiana: 09/08 - 09/11/23

• Gainbridge Fieldhouse, Indianapolis - capacity: 19,000
• Ruoff Music Center, Noblesville (Live Nation venue) - capacity: 24,800

Gainbridge open dates: 09/08 & 09/09, and 09/11/23

Ruoff open dates: 09/10 & 09/11/23

- I hear Muncie is as close to Pawnee as it gets in real life. I'd totally take half a day to go find Gerry's vacation home (editor's note: I wrote this draft earlier in the month & the Pumpkins just booked Ruoff on 09/09 ).

5/5.5?. Lincoln (Help Me Spock, Help Me) aka "Carry On My Wayward Sons": 09/11 - 09/15/23

• Pinnacle Bank Arena (ASM Global venue), Lincoln, NE - capacity: 14,600
• Intrust Banka Arena (ASM Global venue), Wichita, KS - capacity: 15,400
• T-Mobile Center (ASM Global venue), Kansas City, MO - capacity: 19,250
  

Pinnacle open dates: 09/11 - 09/15/23

Intrust open dates: 09/11 - 09/15/23

T-Mobile open dates: 09/11 - 09/15/23

- Coming up on 9 years, but it's plausible. If not this year, then the next. When you're going coast to coast, why NOT stop on the way? One stop, two stops, or none. Definitely adding an extra day for travel.

6. Albuquerque, NM: 09/16 - 09/19/23

• Isleta Ampitheatre (Live Nation venue), Albuquerque, NM - capacity: 15,500
  

Isleta open dates: 09/16 - 09/19/23

- I don't know much about this venue, but NM is due, it's on the way & it's Live Nation. Next stop: Vegas!

7. Las Vegas: 09/19 - 09/24/23

• MGM Grand Arena, Las Vegas, NV - capacity: 17,000 (2022 venue)
  
• Thomas & Mack Center, Las Vegas, NV - capacity: 18,000
• T-Mobile Arena, Las Vegas , NV - capacity: 20,000
  

MGM Grand open dates: 09/19 - 09/24/23

Thomas & Mack open dates: 09/19 - 09/24/23

T-Mobile Arena open dates: 09/19 - 09/24/23

- I had floor tix & a sweet hotel set aside last year. So did about 15,000 of us lol. Let's get a do-over before Ohana, yeah?

8. Ohana Fest: 09/29 - 10/01/23

• Doheny State Beach, Dana Point, CA
  

- It's Ed's festival. Either PJ, or the Earthlings on Sunday?

:end of 2023 run:

Thoughts?

Why skip Phoenix? 5th largest city in U.S. Sell out anytime they are there, Ed has a connection with family. Much rather be in Chandler/Scottsdale than Albuquerque 

Played there last year. Maybe in 2024?

By that rational they wouldn’t be heading anywhere near California 

I figure as much (with the exception of Ohana).

Go Animal

Go Animal said:

Spring is here. Looks like there WERE plans for a short Spring run, but those got shelved. Matt has been jamming with 3rd Secret, Ed's staying active, but the thing that really raised my eyebrows was Stone appearing on the new Iggy Pop record. The one produced by Andrew Watt.

Which leads me to believe we're closer to a new record than we realize. Watt always has 2 or 3 records in the works, and with his wide network of clients, it's almost like the late 80's with Jeff Lynne. "Hey, while we're making this record... you wanna be on THIS record?", "Hey, come play on mine too." etc. etc.

I know they've demoing for sure since last year. The only thing I don't know, is how far along on the record they are. Watt takes a different approach than Brendan, or PJ themselves.

I started the thread with the 2016 tour as inspiration, but realized a little while ago, that it's more like 2008 at this point. Demo here, record there, quick run of 11-13 shows, a mix of outdoor venues & arenas. Just add 15 years, a few family members, and Ohana fest

There's always room for festival dates, or special gigs like Third Man, but I feel this (or something like this) will be what we have in store.

As always, if this isn't the plan, consider it a pitch

Prospective 2023 Tour V.9 (aka "I Want More Live Shows, F***er/I Ain't Done Yet")

1. The Twin Cities: 08/25 - 09/02/23 (one, or two nights)

• Target Center, Minneapolis (ASM Global venue) - capacity: 20,500
• Xcel Energy Center, St. Paul - capacity: 20,500
• Minnesota State Fair (The Grandstand) - capacity: 17,000; other acts: Duran Duran, The Chicks & Brandi Carlile
• Somerset Amphitheater - Somerset, WI (Live Nation venue) - capacity: 30,000

Target open dates: 08/27 - 08/31, and 09/02/23
Xcel open dates: 08/25 - 09/02/23
State Fair open dates: 09/01 - 09/02/23
Somerset open dates: 08/25 - 08/28, and 08/30 - 09/02/23

- The home of movie riffing (I'm watching MST3K as I type this). Somerset's kind of a cheat, but it's Live Nation & New York's football teams are guilty of worse.

2. Milwaukee: 09/03 - 09/05/23

• Fiserv Forum, Milwaukee, WI (ASM Global venue) - capacity: 18,000
• American Family Insurance Ampitheater (Live Nation venue) - capacity: 23,000
• Alpine Valley - East Troy, WI (Live Nation venue) - capacity: 37,000

Fiserv open dates: 09/03 - 09/05/23

AFI Amp. open dates: 09/03 - 09/05/23

Alpine Valley open dates: 09/03 - 09/05/23

- Is a return to Yieldwaukee in the works? With Chicago rumored, it's hard to say. But they booked Fresno & Sacramento last year, so anything's possible lol.

3. Chicago: 09/05 - 09/08/23 (one, or two nights)

• United Center, Chicago - capacity: 23,500
• Huntington Bank Pavilion, Northerly Island (Live Nation venue) - capacity: 30,000
• Alpine Valley - East Troy, WI (Live Nation venue) - capacity: 37,000

UC open dates: 09/05 - 09/08/23

Huntington open dates: 09/05 - 09/08/23

Alpine Valley open dates: 09/05 - 09/08/23

- I don't care how often they play Chicago, I love Chicago. Love the food, love the city. Chicago!

4. Indiana: 09/08 - 09/11/23

• Gainbridge Fieldhouse, Indianapolis - capacity: 19,000
• Ruoff Music Center, Noblesville (Live Nation venue) - capacity: 24,800

Gainbridge open dates: 09/08 & 09/09, and 09/11/23

Ruoff open dates: 09/10 & 09/11/23

- I hear Muncie is as close to Pawnee as it gets in real life. I'd totally take half a day to go find Gerry's vacation home (editor's note: I wrote this draft earlier in the month & the Pumpkins just booked Ruoff on 09/09 ).

5/5.5?. Lincoln (Help Me Spock, Help Me) aka "Carry On My Wayward Sons": 09/11 - 09/15/23

• Pinnacle Bank Arena (ASM Global venue), Lincoln, NE - capacity: 14,600
• Intrust Banka Arena (ASM Global venue), Wichita, KS - capacity: 15,400
• T-Mobile Center (ASM Global venue), Kansas City, MO - capacity: 19,250
  

Pinnacle open dates: 09/11 - 09/15/23

Intrust open dates: 09/11 - 09/15/23

T-Mobile open dates: 09/11 - 09/15/23

- Coming up on 9 years, but it's plausible. If not this year, then the next. When you're going coast to coast, why NOT stop on the way? One stop, two stops, or none. Definitely adding an extra day for travel.

6. Albuquerque, NM: 09/16 - 09/19/23

• Isleta Ampitheatre (Live Nation venue), Albuquerque, NM - capacity: 15,500
  

Isleta open dates: 09/16 - 09/19/23

- I don't know much about this venue, but NM is due, it's on the way & it's Live Nation. Next stop: Vegas!

7. Las Vegas: 09/19 - 09/24/23

• MGM Grand Arena, Las Vegas, NV - capacity: 17,000 (2022 venue)
  
• Thomas & Mack Center, Las Vegas, NV - capacity: 18,000
• T-Mobile Arena, Las Vegas , NV - capacity: 20,000
  

MGM Grand open dates: 09/19 - 09/24/23

Thomas & Mack open dates: 09/19 - 09/24/23

T-Mobile Arena open dates: 09/19 - 09/24/23

- I had floor tix & a sweet hotel set aside last year. So did about 15,000 of us lol. Let's get a do-over before Ohana, yeah?

8. Ohana Fest: 09/29 - 10/01/23

• Doheny State Beach, Dana Point, CA
  

- It's Ed's festival. Either PJ, or the Earthlings on Sunday?

:end of 2023 run:

Thoughts?

If they're trolling us, I'm gonna feel a little attacked😅

ComeToTX

Dallas featured as well as austin. 

YoullseeDragons

Philadelphia skyline!

YoullseeDragons

Go Animal

Go Animal said:

Heading out for a bit, but tell me what y'all think of this potential run?

Will post later to add logistics

Hello.

Go Animal

^this is definitely not how it's going to ultimately play out, but I'm willing to bet I got real close.

And that's why I do this

mookieb14

If Alpine no chance middle of week 

aisleseats

mookieb14 said:

If Alpine no chance middle of week 

I really don't feel like Alpine is in the cards anymore, now that United Center is pretty much a sure thing. But in the off chance they do play both, and the rumored UC and Noblesville dates are accurate, Labor Day Weekend at Alpine sure would be nice.

darwinstheory

What are the most current rumored Noblesville & Chicago dates? Lost me after the Pumpkins squashed the Swpt 9th rumors.

aisleseats

darwinstheory said:

What are the most current rumored Noblesville & Chicago dates? Lost me after the Pumpkins squashed the Swpt 9th rumors.

Supposedly 9/5 and 9/6 or 9/7 for Chicago and 9/10 for Noblesville.

Go Animal

FYI, my updated prediction calendar (if we're not being trolled) -

08/31 or 09/01 - Minneapolis/St. Paul I
09/01 or 09/02 - Minneapolis/St. Paul II (or just this as a one-nighter)
09/05 - Chicago I
09/06 - Chicago II
09/08 - Detroit (or Philly?)
09/10 - Noblesville
09/13 - RedACTED

Still working on the rest!

Go Animal

Go Animal said:

FYI, my updated prediction calendar (if we're not being trolled) -

08/31 or 09/01 - Minneapolis/St. Paul I
09/01 or 09/02 - Minneapolis/St. Paul II (or just this as a one-nighter)
09/05 - Chicago I
09/06 - Chicago II
09/08 - Detroit (or Philly?)
09/10 - Noblesville
09/13 - RedACTED

Still working on the rest!

OR...

08/31 or 09/01 - Minneapolis/St. Paul
(send the trucks to Chicago, take private transportation to...)
09/03 - Made in America Festival, Philly
(fly to Chicago, and dig in for...)
09/05 - Chicago I
09/06 - Chicago II
09/08 - Detroit (or Ohio?)
09/10 - Noblesville
09/13 - RedACTED

What I'm thinking for 09/13 is almost TOO lofty a goal, so I don't wanna jinx it.