The 2023 Tour Speculation Thread - Potential Dates/Cities, Logistics/Data & Wishlists **UPDATED**

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  • Go Animal
    Go Animal Posts: 7,354
    edited March 2023
    Doug87 said:
    Go Animal said:
    Thoughts? ;)
    Nice draft!

    Scrap Lincoln and New Mexico.

    Lock in one night in Twin Cities vs. two

    Scrap Milwaukee and lock in two in Chicago.

    then I think you have what’s likely if anything happens

    Minnesota - 1
    Chicago - 2
    Noblesville - 1
    Vegas - 1
    Ohana - 1 or 2 (could do 2 weekends likely if PJ)

    based on the 7 dates there, I’m going to suggest that though would be a lot of cross country mileage perhaps Boston gets its dates with 2 at Mansfield and maybe Seattle gets 2 at Climate Pledge to bring the total to 10 or 11,   Don’t think there’s much there beyond that.

    Truthfully, not confident anything happens to be honest. If Noblesville gets another booking for the 10th then we likely have our answer.
    I was confident about New England a while ago. Now? Not so much. Feeling like it's 2024 for them, but regardless, I'll be there (play Hartford!)
    If Noblesville gets booked for 09/10 or not at all, there still a chance for a small 2018 style run, sans ball parks. Chicago is both home AND away. Ohana is too. Maybe 6 or 7 shows, with a couple 2-nighters? I have a few more versions queued (one with a pipe dream, lol).
    Post edited by Go Animal on
    PJ - 09/23/98: West Palm Beach II, 08/12/00: Tampa, 04/12/03: Orlando, 04/13/03: Tampa, 06/12/08: Tampa, 06/27/08: Hartford, 09/22/09: Seattle II, 04/11/16: Tampa, 05/01 & 05/02/16: MSG I & II, 09/18/21: Sea Hear Now, 10/01 & 10/02/21: Ohana Encore I & II, 05/06 & 05/07/22: Los Angeles (Inglewood) I & II, 09/11/22: MSG, 09/16/22: Nashville, 09/02/23: St. Paul II, 09/07/23: Chicago II, 09/18 & 09/19/23: Austin I & II, 05/16 & 05/18/24: Las Vegas I & II, 08/29 & 08/31/24: Wrigley Field I & II, 09/03 & 09/04/24: MSG I & II, 09/27 & 09/29/24: Ohana Festival I & II

    EV - 08/04 & 08/05/08: (Eddie solo, w/Liam Finn) NYC I & II, 11/27 & 11/28/12: (Eddie solo, w/Glen Hansard) Orlando I & II, 02/09 & 02/10/22: (Eddie & the Earthlings) Chicago I & II, 09/30/23: (Eddie & the Earthlings) Ohana Festival

    Song Wishlist: Alone, Let Me Sleep, Brother, full W.M.A., Hold On, Bugs/all of Vitalogy, Mankind, Around The Bend (full band), The Long Road, Don't Gimme No Lip, Pilate, Push Me Pull Me, All Those Yesterdays, Rival, Parting Ways, Ghost, Bu$hleaguer, WWS, Parachutes, Army Reserve, low octave Driftin', Strangest Tribe, Other Side, Undone, Fatal, Hitchhiker, Education, Black Red Yellow, Of the Earth, Love Reign O'er Me, Gonna See My Friend, Santa Cruz, Infallible, Yellow Moon, Alright, Comes Then Goes, and the Mamasan Trilogy.

    Wanted Posters: WPB '98, Tampa/WPB '00, Tampa '03, EV Batmobile '08        ISO: any picks, or setlists from any of my shows!
  • Doug87
    Doug87 Posts: 442
    edited March 2023
    Go Animal said:
    Doug87 said:
    Go Animal said:
    Thoughts? ;)
    Nice draft!

    Scrap Lincoln and New Mexico.

    Lock in one night in Twin Cities vs. two

    Scrap Milwaukee and lock in two in Chicago.

    then I think you have what’s likely if anything happens

    Minnesota - 1
    Chicago - 2
    Noblesville - 1
    Vegas - 1
    Ohana - 1 or 2 (could do 2 weekends likely if PJ)

    based on the 7 dates there, I’m going to suggest that though would be a lot of cross country mileage perhaps Boston gets its dates with 2 at Mansfield and maybe Seattle gets 2 at Climate Pledge to bring the total to 10 or 11,   Don’t think there’s much there beyond that.

    Truthfully, not confident anything happens to be honest. If Noblesville gets another booking for the 10th then we likely have our answer.
    I was confident about New England a while ago. Now? Not so much. Feeling like it's 2024 for them, but regardless, I'll be there (play Hartford!)
    If Noblesville gets booked for 09/10 or not at all, they’re still a chance for a small 2018 style run, sans ball parks. Chicago is both home AND away. Ohana is too. Maybe 6 or 7 shows, with a couple 2-nighters? I have a few more versions queued (one with a pipe dream, lol).
    I’d take Noblesville as a sign if the 10th falls through personally.

    Agree that it’s possible for small Midwest run, Vegas, and Ohana being it as a 6-7 show run.

    If they dropped the 10th though, I’d see it as the juice wasn’t worth the squeeze for them.

    Remember that Home and Away was all 35k+ capacity venues I believe.

    Currently, none of the rumored venues listed meet that threshold and so you’re talking about a big difference financially.

    A lot easier to commit to only 7 dates when they are all ballparks/stadium vs. arenas/sheds.
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  • RatherStarved
    RatherStarved Posts: 5,781
    It all sounds plausible but if there was a shred of evidence that they are planning anything it would be more fun to speculate.  
    PJ: 2013: London (ON); Buffalo; 2014: Cincinnati; 2016: Sunrise, Miami, Toronto 1-2, Wrigley 2; 2018: London (UK) 1, Milan, Padova, Sea 2, Wrigley 1-2, Fenway 1-2; 2021: SHN, Ohana, Ohana Encore 1-2; 2022: LA 1-2, Phx, Oak 1-2, Fresno, Copenhagen, Hyde Park 1-2; Quebec, Ottawa, Hamilton, Toronto; MSG, Camden, Nashville, Louisville, St. Louis, OKC; 2023: St. Paul 1-2, Chicago 1-2; Fort Worth 2; Austin 1-2; 2024:  Vancouver 1-2, LV 1-2, LA 1-2, Napa, Barcelona 1-2; Indy; Chicago 1-2; MSG 1-2; Philly 2; Boston 2; Ohana 1-2; 2025: FL 1-2, ATL 1-2, Nash 1-2, Pit 1-2.
     
    EV Solo: 2017 Louisville and Franklin, 2018 Ohana, 2019 Innings Fest, Berlin, Düsseldorf, Dublin and Ohana; 2021 Ohana Friday (from beach) and Saturday; 2022 Earthlings Newark; 2023 Innings Fest and Benoraya 1-2.

    Gutted:  London 2 2018, Sacramento 2022, Noblesville 2023
  • Dirty Frank Z
    Dirty Frank Z Posts: 2,878
    No way they play the Target Center in Minneapolis. Just sayin
  • Go Animal
    Go Animal Posts: 7,354
    edited March 2023
    Dirty Frank Z said:
    No way they play the Target Center in Minneapolis. Just sayin
    Any particular reason? Just wondering (I listed 3 other possibilities, but unsure why they wouldn't/couldn't play there).
    Post edited by Go Animal on
    PJ - 09/23/98: West Palm Beach II, 08/12/00: Tampa, 04/12/03: Orlando, 04/13/03: Tampa, 06/12/08: Tampa, 06/27/08: Hartford, 09/22/09: Seattle II, 04/11/16: Tampa, 05/01 & 05/02/16: MSG I & II, 09/18/21: Sea Hear Now, 10/01 & 10/02/21: Ohana Encore I & II, 05/06 & 05/07/22: Los Angeles (Inglewood) I & II, 09/11/22: MSG, 09/16/22: Nashville, 09/02/23: St. Paul II, 09/07/23: Chicago II, 09/18 & 09/19/23: Austin I & II, 05/16 & 05/18/24: Las Vegas I & II, 08/29 & 08/31/24: Wrigley Field I & II, 09/03 & 09/04/24: MSG I & II, 09/27 & 09/29/24: Ohana Festival I & II

    EV - 08/04 & 08/05/08: (Eddie solo, w/Liam Finn) NYC I & II, 11/27 & 11/28/12: (Eddie solo, w/Glen Hansard) Orlando I & II, 02/09 & 02/10/22: (Eddie & the Earthlings) Chicago I & II, 09/30/23: (Eddie & the Earthlings) Ohana Festival

    Song Wishlist: Alone, Let Me Sleep, Brother, full W.M.A., Hold On, Bugs/all of Vitalogy, Mankind, Around The Bend (full band), The Long Road, Don't Gimme No Lip, Pilate, Push Me Pull Me, All Those Yesterdays, Rival, Parting Ways, Ghost, Bu$hleaguer, WWS, Parachutes, Army Reserve, low octave Driftin', Strangest Tribe, Other Side, Undone, Fatal, Hitchhiker, Education, Black Red Yellow, Of the Earth, Love Reign O'er Me, Gonna See My Friend, Santa Cruz, Infallible, Yellow Moon, Alright, Comes Then Goes, and the Mamasan Trilogy.

    Wanted Posters: WPB '98, Tampa/WPB '00, Tampa '03, EV Batmobile '08        ISO: any picks, or setlists from any of my shows!
  • Dirty Frank Z
    Dirty Frank Z Posts: 2,878
    Go Animal said:
    Dirty Frank Z said:
    No way they play the Target Center in Minneapolis. Just sayin
    Any particular reason? Just wondering (I listed 3 other possibilities, but unsure why they wouldn't/couldn't play there).
    They've played the Xcel Energy Center in St Paul the four previous times when in the state. 2003, 2006 and 2014. They've only once played Target Center and that was before the Xcel Center was built. The Target Center is outdated and pretty crappy. 

    Also, I cant stress this enough....

    I'm from St. Paul and have my biases.

    All in good fun!

  • Dirty Frank Z
    Dirty Frank Z Posts: 2,878
    And the State Fair grounds are lovely, but I doubt Pearl Jam would play there during the Great Minnesota Get Together. Its a whole thing. As fun as it would be, and I would personally love it; I cant see that happening with the vibe that goes with what the State Fair does. 
  • PJNB
    PJNB Posts: 13,890
    St. Paul to start off the tour would be great. 
  • Go Animal
    Go Animal Posts: 7,354
    edited March 2023
    Dirty Frank Z said:
    Go Animal said:
    Dirty Frank Z said:
    No way they play the Target Center in Minneapolis. Just sayin
    Any particular reason? Just wondering (I listed 3 other possibilities, but unsure why they wouldn't/couldn't play there).
    They've played the Xcel Energy Center in St Paul the four previous times when in the state. 2003, 2006 and 2014. They've only once played Target Center and that was before the Xcel Center was built. The Target Center is outdated and pretty crappy. 

    Also, I cant stress this enough....

    I'm from St. Paul and have my biases.

    All in good fun!

    Dirty Frank Z said:
    And the State Fair grounds are lovely, but I doubt Pearl Jam would play there during the Great Minnesota Get Together. Its a whole thing. As fun as it would be, and I would personally love it; I cant see that happening with the vibe that goes with what the State Fair does. 

    Fair! That's why I listed all the options. There's a few folks on here chomping at the bit to see them at that State Fair since it's a big draw. But figured I'd slip Somerset in there just for the hell of it.
    PJ - 09/23/98: West Palm Beach II, 08/12/00: Tampa, 04/12/03: Orlando, 04/13/03: Tampa, 06/12/08: Tampa, 06/27/08: Hartford, 09/22/09: Seattle II, 04/11/16: Tampa, 05/01 & 05/02/16: MSG I & II, 09/18/21: Sea Hear Now, 10/01 & 10/02/21: Ohana Encore I & II, 05/06 & 05/07/22: Los Angeles (Inglewood) I & II, 09/11/22: MSG, 09/16/22: Nashville, 09/02/23: St. Paul II, 09/07/23: Chicago II, 09/18 & 09/19/23: Austin I & II, 05/16 & 05/18/24: Las Vegas I & II, 08/29 & 08/31/24: Wrigley Field I & II, 09/03 & 09/04/24: MSG I & II, 09/27 & 09/29/24: Ohana Festival I & II

    EV - 08/04 & 08/05/08: (Eddie solo, w/Liam Finn) NYC I & II, 11/27 & 11/28/12: (Eddie solo, w/Glen Hansard) Orlando I & II, 02/09 & 02/10/22: (Eddie & the Earthlings) Chicago I & II, 09/30/23: (Eddie & the Earthlings) Ohana Festival

    Song Wishlist: Alone, Let Me Sleep, Brother, full W.M.A., Hold On, Bugs/all of Vitalogy, Mankind, Around The Bend (full band), The Long Road, Don't Gimme No Lip, Pilate, Push Me Pull Me, All Those Yesterdays, Rival, Parting Ways, Ghost, Bu$hleaguer, WWS, Parachutes, Army Reserve, low octave Driftin', Strangest Tribe, Other Side, Undone, Fatal, Hitchhiker, Education, Black Red Yellow, Of the Earth, Love Reign O'er Me, Gonna See My Friend, Santa Cruz, Infallible, Yellow Moon, Alright, Comes Then Goes, and the Mamasan Trilogy.

    Wanted Posters: WPB '98, Tampa/WPB '00, Tampa '03, EV Batmobile '08        ISO: any picks, or setlists from any of my shows!
  • Get_Right
    Get_Right Posts: 14,134
    All in good fun but at the end of the day you know they are playing few dates in the northeast whenever they go out. Kansas, Nebraska, Wisconsin, and Indiana? Not sure that could happen with a new record.  =)  
  • Go Animal
    Go Animal Posts: 7,354
    Get_Right said:
    All in good fun but at the end of the day you know they are playing few dates in the northeast whenever they go out. Kansas, Nebraska, Wisconsin, and Indiana? Not sure that could happen with a new record.  =)  
    New record tour is next year ;) this is just old haunts on the way!
    PJ - 09/23/98: West Palm Beach II, 08/12/00: Tampa, 04/12/03: Orlando, 04/13/03: Tampa, 06/12/08: Tampa, 06/27/08: Hartford, 09/22/09: Seattle II, 04/11/16: Tampa, 05/01 & 05/02/16: MSG I & II, 09/18/21: Sea Hear Now, 10/01 & 10/02/21: Ohana Encore I & II, 05/06 & 05/07/22: Los Angeles (Inglewood) I & II, 09/11/22: MSG, 09/16/22: Nashville, 09/02/23: St. Paul II, 09/07/23: Chicago II, 09/18 & 09/19/23: Austin I & II, 05/16 & 05/18/24: Las Vegas I & II, 08/29 & 08/31/24: Wrigley Field I & II, 09/03 & 09/04/24: MSG I & II, 09/27 & 09/29/24: Ohana Festival I & II

    EV - 08/04 & 08/05/08: (Eddie solo, w/Liam Finn) NYC I & II, 11/27 & 11/28/12: (Eddie solo, w/Glen Hansard) Orlando I & II, 02/09 & 02/10/22: (Eddie & the Earthlings) Chicago I & II, 09/30/23: (Eddie & the Earthlings) Ohana Festival

    Song Wishlist: Alone, Let Me Sleep, Brother, full W.M.A., Hold On, Bugs/all of Vitalogy, Mankind, Around The Bend (full band), The Long Road, Don't Gimme No Lip, Pilate, Push Me Pull Me, All Those Yesterdays, Rival, Parting Ways, Ghost, Bu$hleaguer, WWS, Parachutes, Army Reserve, low octave Driftin', Strangest Tribe, Other Side, Undone, Fatal, Hitchhiker, Education, Black Red Yellow, Of the Earth, Love Reign O'er Me, Gonna See My Friend, Santa Cruz, Infallible, Yellow Moon, Alright, Comes Then Goes, and the Mamasan Trilogy.

    Wanted Posters: WPB '98, Tampa/WPB '00, Tampa '03, EV Batmobile '08        ISO: any picks, or setlists from any of my shows!
  • Go Animal
    Go Animal Posts: 7,354
    Get_Right said:
    All in good fun but at the end of the day you know they are playing few dates in the northeast whenever they go out. Kansas, Nebraska, Wisconsin, and Indiana? Not sure that could happen with a new record.  =)  
    To be fair, a lot of that is spitballing. Geared towards their preferred promoters & Jeff's love of playing off the beaten path.

    V.10 or 11 will be MUCH more streamlined. Dare I say U.S. 2018-ish.
    PJ - 09/23/98: West Palm Beach II, 08/12/00: Tampa, 04/12/03: Orlando, 04/13/03: Tampa, 06/12/08: Tampa, 06/27/08: Hartford, 09/22/09: Seattle II, 04/11/16: Tampa, 05/01 & 05/02/16: MSG I & II, 09/18/21: Sea Hear Now, 10/01 & 10/02/21: Ohana Encore I & II, 05/06 & 05/07/22: Los Angeles (Inglewood) I & II, 09/11/22: MSG, 09/16/22: Nashville, 09/02/23: St. Paul II, 09/07/23: Chicago II, 09/18 & 09/19/23: Austin I & II, 05/16 & 05/18/24: Las Vegas I & II, 08/29 & 08/31/24: Wrigley Field I & II, 09/03 & 09/04/24: MSG I & II, 09/27 & 09/29/24: Ohana Festival I & II

    EV - 08/04 & 08/05/08: (Eddie solo, w/Liam Finn) NYC I & II, 11/27 & 11/28/12: (Eddie solo, w/Glen Hansard) Orlando I & II, 02/09 & 02/10/22: (Eddie & the Earthlings) Chicago I & II, 09/30/23: (Eddie & the Earthlings) Ohana Festival

    Song Wishlist: Alone, Let Me Sleep, Brother, full W.M.A., Hold On, Bugs/all of Vitalogy, Mankind, Around The Bend (full band), The Long Road, Don't Gimme No Lip, Pilate, Push Me Pull Me, All Those Yesterdays, Rival, Parting Ways, Ghost, Bu$hleaguer, WWS, Parachutes, Army Reserve, low octave Driftin', Strangest Tribe, Other Side, Undone, Fatal, Hitchhiker, Education, Black Red Yellow, Of the Earth, Love Reign O'er Me, Gonna See My Friend, Santa Cruz, Infallible, Yellow Moon, Alright, Comes Then Goes, and the Mamasan Trilogy.

    Wanted Posters: WPB '98, Tampa/WPB '00, Tampa '03, EV Batmobile '08        ISO: any picks, or setlists from any of my shows!
  • Zod
    Zod Posts: 10,907
    Go Animal said:
    Lost In Ohio said:
    I suspect PJ will NOT play Europe this year.
    Agreed. Ed & the Earthlings, though? That record hit #1 & not just in the U.S.

    I've got a hunch...

    Maybe? Chad Smith is touring with RHCP, Glen Hansard has his tours, and Josh Klinghoffer is touring with Janes Addiction.

    I get the feeling, due to their other projects, it might be rarity for the stars to align for band to tour.   Glad I got to go when I did :)
  • demetrios
    demetrios Posts: 97,529
    Get_Right said:
    All in good fun but at the end of the day you know they are playing few dates in the northeast whenever they go out. Maine, New Hampshire, New Brunswick and Nova Scotia. Not sure that could happen with a new record.  =)  
    I know right?   :D 
  • darthvedder
    darthvedder Posts: 2,673
    Dirty Frank Z said:
    Go Animal said:
    Dirty Frank Z said:
    No way they play the Target Center in Minneapolis. Just sayin
    Any particular reason? Just wondering (I listed 3 other possibilities, but unsure why they wouldn't/couldn't play there).
    They've played the Xcel Energy Center in St Paul the four previous times when in the state. 2003, 2006 and 2014. They've only once played Target Center and that was before the Xcel Center was built. The Target Center is outdated and pretty crappy. 

    Also, I cant stress this enough....

    I'm from St. Paul and have my biases.

    All in good fun!


    They seem to like playing outdated and crappy venues. They played The Forum and Oakland Arena last year when there are newer buildings not far away.
  • Dirty Frank Z
    Dirty Frank Z Posts: 2,878
    darthvedder said:
    Dirty Frank Z said:
    Go Animal said:
    Dirty Frank Z said:
    No way they play the Target Center in Minneapolis. Just sayin
    Any particular reason? Just wondering (I listed 3 other possibilities, but unsure why they wouldn't/couldn't play there).
    They've played the Xcel Energy Center in St Paul the four previous times when in the state. 2003, 2006 and 2014. They've only once played Target Center and that was before the Xcel Center was built. The Target Center is outdated and pretty crappy. 

    Also, I cant stress this enough....

    I'm from St. Paul and have my biases.

    All in good fun!


    They seem to like playing outdated and crappy venues. They played The Forum and Oakland Arena last year when there are newer buildings not far away.
    I think there's a huge national confusion. The Twin Cities are Two major cities with a huge sprawling metropolitan. We have alot of music venues and sports buildings. The downtowns of St Paul and Minneapolis are literally 8-10 miles from each other. The hockey building (Xcel Center) is in St Paul and was built in 2000. The basketball building (Target Center) is in Minneapolis and built in 1989 with a renovation a couple years ago. 

    Point being....Pearl Jam hasn't played the Target Center since 1998. The Target Center has more seating in the upper bowl than the lower bowl/floor. I do not think the Target Center meets the credentials the Ten Club would be looking for in regards to seating. 

    I have no clue what other cities are like or how good or crappy the buildings Pearl Jam plays outside of my area. That said, I would be shocked if they played Target Center. Shocked. and I think locally speaking, when a band does announce a show at the Target Center, there is a sigh. 
  • droptheleash9
    droptheleash9 Posts: 1,468
    edited March 2023
    At this point, I'm just assuming they have no plans to tour in 2024. If they do announce dates, great! But I'm not holding my breath... I feel like we usually at this point have some hints/nuggets of information and there seems to be none of that thus far...Hope I'm wrong!
  • Doug87
    Doug87 Posts: 442
    edited March 2023
    droptheleash9 said:
    At this point, I'm just assuming they have no plans to tour in 2024. If they do announce dates, great! But I'm not holding my breath... I feel like we usually at this point have some hints/nuggets of information and there seems to be none of that thus far...Hope I'm wrong!
    Where there’s smoke, there’s fire, and there is no smoke just yet.
  • PJNB
    PJNB Posts: 13,890
    droptheleash9 said:
    At this point, I'm just assuming they have no plans to tour in 2024. If they do announce dates, great! But I'm not holding my breath... I feel like we usually at this point have some hints/nuggets of information and there seems to be none of that thus far...Hope I'm wrong!
    We should probably get the 2023 tour out of the way first before we start worrying about 2024 shouldn’t we?
  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 31,686
    PJNB said:
    droptheleash9 said:
    At this point, I'm just assuming they have no plans to tour in 2024. If they do announce dates, great! But I'm not holding my breath... I feel like we usually at this point have some hints/nuggets of information and there seems to be none of that thus far...Hope I'm wrong!
    We should probably get the 2023 tour out of the way first before we start worrying about 2024 shouldn’t we?
    The make believe in fairytale land of 23 🤣🤣🤣 please thank the lord I’ve stopped waiting on these guys years ago! My summer plans are set and it doesn’t include waiting on these old timers to want to play live music for their fan base 
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