Viruses / Vaccines 2

23scidoo said:

brianlux said:

mrussel1 said:

benjs said:

mrussel1 said:

benjs said:

mrussel1 said:

23scidoo said:

mrussel1 said:

23scidoo said:

mrussel1 said:

23scidoo said:

Αnd when I said "it will be fun to find out who knew"..

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11824905/Emails-Dr-Fauci-commissioned-February-2020-paper-disprove-COVID-leaked-Wuhan-lab.html

So wait, the whole thing hinges on the verb used in Dr. Andersson's email...from Feb of 2020?  Did anyone ask the doctor what he meant by the verb "disproved" and whether it was inarticulate emailing or to be taken literally?

Second, we all said here that we are willing to let the US gov't research and determine the origin.  I don't think anyone has a personal stake in where it originated.  At the end of the day, it left a million Americans dead, regardless of whether it was lab or not.  If it was a lab, it becomes a geopolitical issue, not a medical or science one.  

Wait, why should we wait US gov to tell us what happened??..
huge difference if it comes from lab..

In the US, that's our primary resource of trust.  It's not like I have the data and access to classified information to make a sound judgment.  I don't use You Tube and untethered speculation to inform my opinions.  Should I wait for the Greek gov't to render an opinion?  Will that be coming soon?

Υοu should definitely not waiting the Greek gov..lol..we don't trust them, you shouldn't either..
but your gov is so trustworthy??..the global super power who tell us what happened??..
and of course you mean the gov with specific president, right??..

What choice do you have?  These people on the internet don't follow the scientific process.  They don't have access to intelligence, confidential or secret information.  If the British gov't made a determination, that would have some influence on me as well, same with the French.  That doesn't mean I think they are 100% trustworthy or right all the time.  But the alternative is some yahoo on You Tube.  How is that better?

I mean, I think this really does get at a larger issue - we have a serious trust crisis. If we don't trust institutions, each other, the scientists, the controversialists, the media - do we just ignore experts and go our own ways and somehow hope for the best? 

Can anyone stop this train?

I trust Fox news to give me the fair and balanced news everyday.  That's how I know Kari Lake is the right gov of Arizona.  And there is no such thing a lawsuit by Dominion against Fox. 

Obviously I know this is a joke, but you have to recognize that for some people, every word of what you wrote is true. 

Sadly I do.  They have been radicalized.  The interesting thing is that the gov't is no more diabolical than it ever was, in fact it is likely to be significantly more transparent.  But we trusted them until Vietnam went wrong, and the Pentagon Papers, followed by Watergate, the Church committee, etc.  

I don't have a solution to your question other than attempting to hold gov officials accountable through oversight and elections.  The concept of a gov lying to the people is as old as civilization.  It's not a harbinger of the downfall of society.  

Sad indeed.

And not only have these people been radicalized, many have been beguiled to the point of delusion in believing the lies they are fed.  Their being duped very much illustrates a number of things including a lack of a quality education, an pervasive inability to use critical thinking, and a tendency for masses of people to follow charismatic "leaders".

And like you say, they don't trust government.  Instead, they prefer blind acceptance of those marginal radical authoritarian "leaders" whom they believe care for their them and have concern for their own good.
History is repeating itself yet again.

The Juggler said:

23scidoo said:

brianlux said:

mrussel1 said:

benjs said:

mrussel1 said:

benjs said:

mrussel1 said:

23scidoo said:

mrussel1 said:

23scidoo said:

mrussel1 said:

23scidoo said:

Αnd when I said "it will be fun to find out who knew"..

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11824905/Emails-Dr-Fauci-commissioned-February-2020-paper-disprove-COVID-leaked-Wuhan-lab.html

So wait, the whole thing hinges on the verb used in Dr. Andersson's email...from Feb of 2020?  Did anyone ask the doctor what he meant by the verb "disproved" and whether it was inarticulate emailing or to be taken literally?

Second, we all said here that we are willing to let the US gov't research and determine the origin.  I don't think anyone has a personal stake in where it originated.  At the end of the day, it left a million Americans dead, regardless of whether it was lab or not.  If it was a lab, it becomes a geopolitical issue, not a medical or science one.  

Wait, why should we wait US gov to tell us what happened??..
huge difference if it comes from lab..

In the US, that's our primary resource of trust.  It's not like I have the data and access to classified information to make a sound judgment.  I don't use You Tube and untethered speculation to inform my opinions.  Should I wait for the Greek gov't to render an opinion?  Will that be coming soon?

Υοu should definitely not waiting the Greek gov..lol..we don't trust them, you shouldn't either..
but your gov is so trustworthy??..the global super power who tell us what happened??..
and of course you mean the gov with specific president, right??..

What choice do you have?  These people on the internet don't follow the scientific process.  They don't have access to intelligence, confidential or secret information.  If the British gov't made a determination, that would have some influence on me as well, same with the French.  That doesn't mean I think they are 100% trustworthy or right all the time.  But the alternative is some yahoo on You Tube.  How is that better?

I mean, I think this really does get at a larger issue - we have a serious trust crisis. If we don't trust institutions, each other, the scientists, the controversialists, the media - do we just ignore experts and go our own ways and somehow hope for the best? 

Can anyone stop this train?

I trust Fox news to give me the fair and balanced news everyday.  That's how I know Kari Lake is the right gov of Arizona.  And there is no such thing a lawsuit by Dominion against Fox. 

Obviously I know this is a joke, but you have to recognize that for some people, every word of what you wrote is true. 

Sadly I do.  They have been radicalized.  The interesting thing is that the gov't is no more diabolical than it ever was, in fact it is likely to be significantly more transparent.  But we trusted them until Vietnam went wrong, and the Pentagon Papers, followed by Watergate, the Church committee, etc.  

I don't have a solution to your question other than attempting to hold gov officials accountable through oversight and elections.  The concept of a gov lying to the people is as old as civilization.  It's not a harbinger of the downfall of society.  

Sad indeed.

And not only have these people been radicalized, many have been beguiled to the point of delusion in believing the lies they are fed.  Their being duped very much illustrates a number of things including a lack of a quality education, an pervasive inability to use critical thinking, and a tendency for masses of people to follow charismatic "leaders".

And like you say, they don't trust government.  Instead, they prefer blind acceptance of those marginal radical authoritarian "leaders" whom they believe care for their them and have concern for their own good.
History is repeating itself yet again.

Karl Marx clearly died his mustache. 

Merkin Baller said:

FiveBelow said:

The Juggler said:

23scidoo said:

brianlux said:

mrussel1 said:

benjs said:

mrussel1 said:

benjs said:

mrussel1 said:

23scidoo said:

mrussel1 said:

23scidoo said:

mrussel1 said:

23scidoo said:

Αnd when I said "it will be fun to find out who knew"..

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11824905/Emails-Dr-Fauci-commissioned-February-2020-paper-disprove-COVID-leaked-Wuhan-lab.html

So wait, the whole thing hinges on the verb used in Dr. Andersson's email...from Feb of 2020?  Did anyone ask the doctor what he meant by the verb "disproved" and whether it was inarticulate emailing or to be taken literally?

Second, we all said here that we are willing to let the US gov't research and determine the origin.  I don't think anyone has a personal stake in where it originated.  At the end of the day, it left a million Americans dead, regardless of whether it was lab or not.  If it was a lab, it becomes a geopolitical issue, not a medical or science one.  

Wait, why should we wait US gov to tell us what happened??..
huge difference if it comes from lab..

In the US, that's our primary resource of trust.  It's not like I have the data and access to classified information to make a sound judgment.  I don't use You Tube and untethered speculation to inform my opinions.  Should I wait for the Greek gov't to render an opinion?  Will that be coming soon?

Υοu should definitely not waiting the Greek gov..lol..we don't trust them, you shouldn't either..
but your gov is so trustworthy??..the global super power who tell us what happened??..
and of course you mean the gov with specific president, right??..

What choice do you have?  These people on the internet don't follow the scientific process.  They don't have access to intelligence, confidential or secret information.  If the British gov't made a determination, that would have some influence on me as well, same with the French.  That doesn't mean I think they are 100% trustworthy or right all the time.  But the alternative is some yahoo on You Tube.  How is that better?

I mean, I think this really does get at a larger issue - we have a serious trust crisis. If we don't trust institutions, each other, the scientists, the controversialists, the media - do we just ignore experts and go our own ways and somehow hope for the best? 

Can anyone stop this train?

I trust Fox news to give me the fair and balanced news everyday.  That's how I know Kari Lake is the right gov of Arizona.  And there is no such thing a lawsuit by Dominion against Fox. 

Obviously I know this is a joke, but you have to recognize that for some people, every word of what you wrote is true. 

Sadly I do.  They have been radicalized.  The interesting thing is that the gov't is no more diabolical than it ever was, in fact it is likely to be significantly more transparent.  But we trusted them until Vietnam went wrong, and the Pentagon Papers, followed by Watergate, the Church committee, etc.  

I don't have a solution to your question other than attempting to hold gov officials accountable through oversight and elections.  The concept of a gov lying to the people is as old as civilization.  It's not a harbinger of the downfall of society.  

Sad indeed.

And not only have these people been radicalized, many have been beguiled to the point of delusion in believing the lies they are fed.  Their being duped very much illustrates a number of things including a lack of a quality education, an pervasive inability to use critical thinking, and a tendency for masses of people to follow charismatic "leaders".

And like you say, they don't trust government.  Instead, they prefer blind acceptance of those marginal radical authoritarian "leaders" whom they believe care for their them and have concern for their own good.
History is repeating itself yet again.

Karl Marx clearly died his mustache. 

Looks alive and well to me.

Fake news. 

He Died Suddenly ™️ after taking the Moderna booster. 

mickeyrat said:

gift article.....

https://wapo.st/3L1lqen 

  Opinion | Available evidence still points to covid originating from spillover
Opinion by Angela Rasmussen and Saskia Popescu
March 07, 2023 at 16:19 ET
Angela Rasmussen is a virologist and principal research scientist at the Vaccine and Infectious Disease Organization at the University of Saskatchewan. Saskia Popescu is an infectious-disease epidemiologist and assistant professor of biodefense at the Schar School of Policy and Government at George Mason University.
The news last week that the Energy Department had concluded with “low confidence” that SARS-CoV-2 originated from a “lab leak” caused FBI Director Christopher A. Wray to remind Fox News viewers that his agency reached the same conclusion about the coronavirus in 2021.
No new evidence is available for public scrutiny. It is impossible to evaluate the Energy Department’s claims. Yet they have been repeated in many quarters as if they were proof of a lab origin — a belief that fuels demands to curtail work on dangerous infectious agents.
This circus makes the United States and the world less prepared, not more, to defend itself against emerging pathogens that could lead to pandemics, including the alarming influenza strain H5N1 spreading globally in animals or the deadly Marburg virus outbreak in Equatorial Guinea.
To be clear, all the evidence available for scrutiny points to the pandemic originating from transmission from live animals to humans — zoonotic spillover — at the Huanan Seafood Wholesale Market in Wuhan, China.
Two studies (one co-authored by one of us) published in 2022 in the U.S. journal Science mapped the verifiable earliest cases, environmental samples collected at the Huanan market, records of animal sales at the market, social media data and susceptibility data about the animals. Triangulating all this demonstrated that the pandemic started with two independent spillover events at the market, or just upstream in the common supply chain where the animals were sourced or transported.

continues....

Merkin Baller said:

FiveBelow said:

The Juggler said:

23scidoo said:

brianlux said:

mrussel1 said:

benjs said:

mrussel1 said:

benjs said:

mrussel1 said:

23scidoo said:

mrussel1 said:

23scidoo said:

mrussel1 said:

23scidoo said:

Αnd when I said "it will be fun to find out who knew"..

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11824905/Emails-Dr-Fauci-commissioned-February-2020-paper-disprove-COVID-leaked-Wuhan-lab.html

So wait, the whole thing hinges on the verb used in Dr. Andersson's email...from Feb of 2020?  Did anyone ask the doctor what he meant by the verb "disproved" and whether it was inarticulate emailing or to be taken literally?

Second, we all said here that we are willing to let the US gov't research and determine the origin.  I don't think anyone has a personal stake in where it originated.  At the end of the day, it left a million Americans dead, regardless of whether it was lab or not.  If it was a lab, it becomes a geopolitical issue, not a medical or science one.  

Wait, why should we wait US gov to tell us what happened??..
huge difference if it comes from lab..

In the US, that's our primary resource of trust.  It's not like I have the data and access to classified information to make a sound judgment.  I don't use You Tube and untethered speculation to inform my opinions.  Should I wait for the Greek gov't to render an opinion?  Will that be coming soon?

Υοu should definitely not waiting the Greek gov..lol..we don't trust them, you shouldn't either..
but your gov is so trustworthy??..the global super power who tell us what happened??..
and of course you mean the gov with specific president, right??..

What choice do you have?  These people on the internet don't follow the scientific process.  They don't have access to intelligence, confidential or secret information.  If the British gov't made a determination, that would have some influence on me as well, same with the French.  That doesn't mean I think they are 100% trustworthy or right all the time.  But the alternative is some yahoo on You Tube.  How is that better?

I mean, I think this really does get at a larger issue - we have a serious trust crisis. If we don't trust institutions, each other, the scientists, the controversialists, the media - do we just ignore experts and go our own ways and somehow hope for the best? 

Can anyone stop this train?

I trust Fox news to give me the fair and balanced news everyday.  That's how I know Kari Lake is the right gov of Arizona.  And there is no such thing a lawsuit by Dominion against Fox. 

Obviously I know this is a joke, but you have to recognize that for some people, every word of what you wrote is true. 

Sadly I do.  They have been radicalized.  The interesting thing is that the gov't is no more diabolical than it ever was, in fact it is likely to be significantly more transparent.  But we trusted them until Vietnam went wrong, and the Pentagon Papers, followed by Watergate, the Church committee, etc.  

I don't have a solution to your question other than attempting to hold gov officials accountable through oversight and elections.  The concept of a gov lying to the people is as old as civilization.  It's not a harbinger of the downfall of society.  

Sad indeed.

And not only have these people been radicalized, many have been beguiled to the point of delusion in believing the lies they are fed.  Their being duped very much illustrates a number of things including a lack of a quality education, an pervasive inability to use critical thinking, and a tendency for masses of people to follow charismatic "leaders".

And like you say, they don't trust government.  Instead, they prefer blind acceptance of those marginal radical authoritarian "leaders" whom they believe care for their them and have concern for their own good.
History is repeating itself yet again.

Karl Marx clearly died his mustache. 

Looks alive and well to me.

Fake news. 

He Died Suddenly ™️ after taking the Moderna booster. 

mrussel1 said:

AW124797 said:

Merkin Baller said:

FiveBelow said:

The Juggler said:

23scidoo said:

brianlux said:

mrussel1 said:

benjs said:

mrussel1 said:

benjs said:

mrussel1 said:

23scidoo said:

mrussel1 said:

23scidoo said:

mrussel1 said:

23scidoo said:

Αnd when I said "it will be fun to find out who knew"..

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11824905/Emails-Dr-Fauci-commissioned-February-2020-paper-disprove-COVID-leaked-Wuhan-lab.html

So wait, the whole thing hinges on the verb used in Dr. Andersson's email...from Feb of 2020?  Did anyone ask the doctor what he meant by the verb "disproved" and whether it was inarticulate emailing or to be taken literally?

Second, we all said here that we are willing to let the US gov't research and determine the origin.  I don't think anyone has a personal stake in where it originated.  At the end of the day, it left a million Americans dead, regardless of whether it was lab or not.  If it was a lab, it becomes a geopolitical issue, not a medical or science one.  

Wait, why should we wait US gov to tell us what happened??..
huge difference if it comes from lab..

In the US, that's our primary resource of trust.  It's not like I have the data and access to classified information to make a sound judgment.  I don't use You Tube and untethered speculation to inform my opinions.  Should I wait for the Greek gov't to render an opinion?  Will that be coming soon?

Υοu should definitely not waiting the Greek gov..lol..we don't trust them, you shouldn't either..
but your gov is so trustworthy??..the global super power who tell us what happened??..
and of course you mean the gov with specific president, right??..

What choice do you have?  These people on the internet don't follow the scientific process.  They don't have access to intelligence, confidential or secret information.  If the British gov't made a determination, that would have some influence on me as well, same with the French.  That doesn't mean I think they are 100% trustworthy or right all the time.  But the alternative is some yahoo on You Tube.  How is that better?

I mean, I think this really does get at a larger issue - we have a serious trust crisis. If we don't trust institutions, each other, the scientists, the controversialists, the media - do we just ignore experts and go our own ways and somehow hope for the best? 

Can anyone stop this train?

I trust Fox news to give me the fair and balanced news everyday.  That's how I know Kari Lake is the right gov of Arizona.  And there is no such thing a lawsuit by Dominion against Fox. 

Obviously I know this is a joke, but you have to recognize that for some people, every word of what you wrote is true. 

Sadly I do.  They have been radicalized.  The interesting thing is that the gov't is no more diabolical than it ever was, in fact it is likely to be significantly more transparent.  But we trusted them until Vietnam went wrong, and the Pentagon Papers, followed by Watergate, the Church committee, etc.  

I don't have a solution to your question other than attempting to hold gov officials accountable through oversight and elections.  The concept of a gov lying to the people is as old as civilization.  It's not a harbinger of the downfall of society.  

Sad indeed.

And not only have these people been radicalized, many have been beguiled to the point of delusion in believing the lies they are fed.  Their being duped very much illustrates a number of things including a lack of a quality education, an pervasive inability to use critical thinking, and a tendency for masses of people to follow charismatic "leaders".

And like you say, they don't trust government.  Instead, they prefer blind acceptance of those marginal radical authoritarian "leaders" whom they believe care for their them and have concern for their own good.
History is repeating itself yet again.

Karl Marx clearly died his mustache. 

Looks alive and well to me.

Fake news. 

He Died Suddenly ™️ after taking the Moderna booster. 

No, he died suddenly from covid after 4 Moderna boosters. Funnier and more probable. 

So .00045 chance rather than .00032 chance?

FiveBelow said:

Merkin Baller said:

FiveBelow said:

The Juggler said:

23scidoo said:

brianlux said:

mrussel1 said:

benjs said:

mrussel1 said:

benjs said:

mrussel1 said:

23scidoo said:

mrussel1 said:

23scidoo said:

mrussel1 said:

23scidoo said:

Αnd when I said "it will be fun to find out who knew"..

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11824905/Emails-Dr-Fauci-commissioned-February-2020-paper-disprove-COVID-leaked-Wuhan-lab.html

So wait, the whole thing hinges on the verb used in Dr. Andersson's email...from Feb of 2020?  Did anyone ask the doctor what he meant by the verb "disproved" and whether it was inarticulate emailing or to be taken literally?

Second, we all said here that we are willing to let the US gov't research and determine the origin.  I don't think anyone has a personal stake in where it originated.  At the end of the day, it left a million Americans dead, regardless of whether it was lab or not.  If it was a lab, it becomes a geopolitical issue, not a medical or science one.  

Wait, why should we wait US gov to tell us what happened??..
huge difference if it comes from lab..

In the US, that's our primary resource of trust.  It's not like I have the data and access to classified information to make a sound judgment.  I don't use You Tube and untethered speculation to inform my opinions.  Should I wait for the Greek gov't to render an opinion?  Will that be coming soon?

Υοu should definitely not waiting the Greek gov..lol..we don't trust them, you shouldn't either..
but your gov is so trustworthy??..the global super power who tell us what happened??..
and of course you mean the gov with specific president, right??..

What choice do you have?  These people on the internet don't follow the scientific process.  They don't have access to intelligence, confidential or secret information.  If the British gov't made a determination, that would have some influence on me as well, same with the French.  That doesn't mean I think they are 100% trustworthy or right all the time.  But the alternative is some yahoo on You Tube.  How is that better?

I mean, I think this really does get at a larger issue - we have a serious trust crisis. If we don't trust institutions, each other, the scientists, the controversialists, the media - do we just ignore experts and go our own ways and somehow hope for the best? 

Can anyone stop this train?

I trust Fox news to give me the fair and balanced news everyday.  That's how I know Kari Lake is the right gov of Arizona.  And there is no such thing a lawsuit by Dominion against Fox. 

Obviously I know this is a joke, but you have to recognize that for some people, every word of what you wrote is true. 

Sadly I do.  They have been radicalized.  The interesting thing is that the gov't is no more diabolical than it ever was, in fact it is likely to be significantly more transparent.  But we trusted them until Vietnam went wrong, and the Pentagon Papers, followed by Watergate, the Church committee, etc.  

I don't have a solution to your question other than attempting to hold gov officials accountable through oversight and elections.  The concept of a gov lying to the people is as old as civilization.  It's not a harbinger of the downfall of society.  

Sad indeed.

And not only have these people been radicalized, many have been beguiled to the point of delusion in believing the lies they are fed.  Their being duped very much illustrates a number of things including a lack of a quality education, an pervasive inability to use critical thinking, and a tendency for masses of people to follow charismatic "leaders".

And like you say, they don't trust government.  Instead, they prefer blind acceptance of those marginal radical authoritarian "leaders" whom they believe care for their them and have concern for their own good.
History is repeating itself yet again.

Karl Marx clearly died his mustache. 

Looks alive and well to me.

Fake news. 

It Dyed Suddenly ™️ after taking the Moderna booster. 

Fixed.

AW124797 said:

Merkin Baller said:

FiveBelow said:

The Juggler said:

23scidoo said:

brianlux said:

mrussel1 said:

benjs said:

mrussel1 said:

benjs said:

mrussel1 said:

23scidoo said:

mrussel1 said:

23scidoo said:

mrussel1 said:

23scidoo said:

Αnd when I said "it will be fun to find out who knew"..

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11824905/Emails-Dr-Fauci-commissioned-February-2020-paper-disprove-COVID-leaked-Wuhan-lab.html

So wait, the whole thing hinges on the verb used in Dr. Andersson's email...from Feb of 2020?  Did anyone ask the doctor what he meant by the verb "disproved" and whether it was inarticulate emailing or to be taken literally?

Second, we all said here that we are willing to let the US gov't research and determine the origin.  I don't think anyone has a personal stake in where it originated.  At the end of the day, it left a million Americans dead, regardless of whether it was lab or not.  If it was a lab, it becomes a geopolitical issue, not a medical or science one.  

Wait, why should we wait US gov to tell us what happened??..
huge difference if it comes from lab..

In the US, that's our primary resource of trust.  It's not like I have the data and access to classified information to make a sound judgment.  I don't use You Tube and untethered speculation to inform my opinions.  Should I wait for the Greek gov't to render an opinion?  Will that be coming soon?

Υοu should definitely not waiting the Greek gov..lol..we don't trust them, you shouldn't either..
but your gov is so trustworthy??..the global super power who tell us what happened??..
and of course you mean the gov with specific president, right??..

What choice do you have?  These people on the internet don't follow the scientific process.  They don't have access to intelligence, confidential or secret information.  If the British gov't made a determination, that would have some influence on me as well, same with the French.  That doesn't mean I think they are 100% trustworthy or right all the time.  But the alternative is some yahoo on You Tube.  How is that better?

I mean, I think this really does get at a larger issue - we have a serious trust crisis. If we don't trust institutions, each other, the scientists, the controversialists, the media - do we just ignore experts and go our own ways and somehow hope for the best? 

Can anyone stop this train?

I trust Fox news to give me the fair and balanced news everyday.  That's how I know Kari Lake is the right gov of Arizona.  And there is no such thing a lawsuit by Dominion against Fox. 

Obviously I know this is a joke, but you have to recognize that for some people, every word of what you wrote is true. 

Sadly I do.  They have been radicalized.  The interesting thing is that the gov't is no more diabolical than it ever was, in fact it is likely to be significantly more transparent.  But we trusted them until Vietnam went wrong, and the Pentagon Papers, followed by Watergate, the Church committee, etc.  

I don't have a solution to your question other than attempting to hold gov officials accountable through oversight and elections.  The concept of a gov lying to the people is as old as civilization.  It's not a harbinger of the downfall of society.  

Sad indeed.

And not only have these people been radicalized, many have been beguiled to the point of delusion in believing the lies they are fed.  Their being duped very much illustrates a number of things including a lack of a quality education, an pervasive inability to use critical thinking, and a tendency for masses of people to follow charismatic "leaders".

And like you say, they don't trust government.  Instead, they prefer blind acceptance of those marginal radical authoritarian "leaders" whom they believe care for their them and have concern for their own good.
History is repeating itself yet again.

Karl Marx clearly died his mustache. 

Looks alive and well to me.

Fake news. 

He Died Suddenly ™️ after taking the Moderna booster. 

No, he died suddenly from covid after 4 Moderna boosters. Funnier and more probable. 

mrussel1 said:

23scidoo said:

Everyday closer to the truth..

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-64891745

https://oversight.house.gov/release/covid-origins-hearing-wrap-up-facts-science-evidence-point-to-a-wuhan-lab-leak/

In the US, the House GOP is a propaganda outlet. What they say doesn't move the needle with thinking people.