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  • mickeyrat
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  • And who is that POOTWH base again? And who made up the bulk of his Administration? And who’s the slicker version ready to tap into that base? Doesn’t bode well for ‘Murica’s future.

    A new poll gives us insight into a troubling anti-American movement

    When you hear the phrase “Christian nationalists,” you might think of antiabortion conservatives who are upset about the phrase “Happy Holidays” and embrace a vaguely “America First” way of thinking. But according to a Public Religion Research Institute-Brookings Institution poll releasedWednesday, Christian nationalists in fact harbor a set of extreme beliefs at odds with pluralistic democracy. The findings will alarm you.

    “Christian nationalism is a new term for a worldview that has been with us since the founding of our country — the idea that America is destined to be a promised land for European Christians,” PRRI president and founder Robert P. Jones explained in a news releaseon the survey of more than 6,000 Americans. “While most Americans today embrace pluralism and reject this anti-democratic claim, majorities of white evangelical Protestants and Republicans remain animated by this vision of a white Christian America.”

    The poll used the following beliefs to gauge how deeply respondents embraced Christian nationalism:

    • “The U.S. government should declare America a Christian nation.”
    • “U.S. laws should be based on Christian values.”
    • “If the U.S. moves away from our Christian foundations, we will not have a country anymore.”
    • “Being Christian is an important part of being truly American.”
    • “God has called Christians to exercise dominion over all areas of American society.”

    PRRI found that 10 percent (“adherents”) of American adults believe in these ideas overwhelmingly or completely; 19 percent agree but not completely (“sympathizers”); 39 percent disagree (“skeptics”) but not completely; and 29 percent disagree completely (“rejecters”).

    Who are these people? “Nearly two-thirds of white evangelical Protestants qualify as either Christian nationalism sympathizers (35%) or adherents (29%).” Thirty-five percent of all Whites are adherents. Put differently, Christian nationalist adherents are a minority but when combined with sympathizers still comprise a stunning 29 percent of Americans — many tens of millions.

    Christian nationalists also make up the base of the Republican Party. “Most Republicans qualify as either Christian nationalism sympathizers (33%) or adherents (21%), while at least three-quarters of both independents (46% skeptics and 29% rejecters) and Democrats (36% skeptics and 47% rejecters) lean toward rejecting Christian nationalism.” In total, “Republicans (21%) are about four times as likely as Democrats (5%) or independents (6%) to be adherents of Christian nationalism.” Some promising news: There are fewer adherents and sympathizers among younger Americans. “More than seven in ten Americans ages 18-29 (37% skeptics, 42% rejecters) and ages 30-49 (37% skeptics, 35% rejecters) lean toward opposing Christian nationalism.” Support is also inversely related to educational attainment.

    Christian nationalist adherents are emphatically out of synch with the pluralist majority. “Americans overall are much more likely to express a preference for the U.S. to be a nation made up of people belonging to a variety of religions (73%).” They also are much more likely to hold authoritarian and racist views.

    “Adherents of Christian nationalism are nearly seven times as likely as rejecters to agree that ‘true patriots might have to resort to violence to save our country’ (40% vs. 16%),” the news release said. In addition, “While only about 3 in 10 Americans (28%) agree that ‘because things have gotten so far off track in this country, we need a leader who is willing to break some rules if that’s what it takes to set thing right,’ half of Christian nationalism adherents and nearly 4 in 10 sympathizers (38%) support the idea of an authoritarian leader.”

    There is also a strong racist/white grievance element:

    Around four in ten Americans (41%) agree that discrimination against white Americans is as big of a problem as discrimination against Black Americans and other minorities, compared to 58% who disagree. Approximately two-thirds of Christian nationalism sympathizers (66%) and more than three-quarters of Christian nationalism adherents (77%) agree with this statement. Among Christian nationalism sympathizers and adherents who are white, agreement with this sentiment rises to 73% and 85%, respectively.

    Moreover, a stunning 83 percent of adherents think “God intended America to be a new promised land where European Christians could create a society that could be an example to the rest of the world.” Two-thirds of Americans overall reject this explicitly racist statement

    More than 70 percent of adherents embrace replacement theory, nearly one-quarter harbor the antisemitic view that Jews hold too many positions of power and 44 percent believe Jews are more loyal to Israel than America, the poll found. More than 65 percent think Muslims from some countries should be banned. Almost 70 percent believe “the husband is the head of the household in ‘a truly Christian family’ and his wife submits to his leadership.”

    If you thing this sounds like MAGA tripe, you’re right. This is the hardcore MAGA base. More alarming: “Nearly six in ten QAnon believers are also either Christian nationalism sympathizers (29%) or adherents (29%).”

    The findings highlight challenges to those who cherish the American creed that “All men are created equal” and who embrace the anti-establishment clause of the First Amendment. And because Christian nationalists adopt their views as articles of religious faith, they might be far less willing to reexamine them. The task of inculcating American values of inclusion, democracy and rule of law will have to come, in all likelihood, from within church communities.

    The survey also confirms that Christian nationalism is not tied to any specific candidate. Rather, a vast number of like-minded Americans could be receptive to an authoritarian, racist, dogmatic message donning the cloak of Christianity. Defeating a single candidate won’t end this movement.

    Given their numbers and potential staying power, the response to this threat to pluralistic democracy must be cross-partisan. And it will have to go beyond politics. To counteract Christian nationalism we will need a positive, optimistic message that celebrates an inclusive, diverse democracy in which no American is more “real” than another.

    What makes us unique — or “exceptional” as the right likes to say — is that America isn’t defined by race or religion. Believers in American values have their work cut out for them.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2023/02/09/prri-poll-christian-nationalism/

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  • The Juggler
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    I have a feeling Sununu would run circles around Desantis in a debate and would be a good general election candidate....yet the deplorable base probably won't go for him. 


    https://www.politico.com/news/2023/02/09/new-hampshire-sununu-desantis-conservative-00082032

    ‘Sorry, Ron, you're No. 2’: Sununu says he’s the top dog among conservative governors

    “I'm ranked the most fiscally conservative governor in the country,” Sununu told POLITICO.


    “I'm ranked the most fiscally conservative governor in the country,” Chris Sununu, who is expected to make a 2024 presidential bid, said. | Scott Olson/Getty Images


    New Hampshire Gov. Chris Sununu wants voters to know: He’s a conservative.

    The Republican governor, known for being outspoken against former President Donald Trump, tried to shed the moderate label often foisted upon him during an interview at POLITICO’s The Fifty: America’s Governors.

    “I’m ranked the most fiscally conservative governor in the country,” said Sununu, who is expected to make a 2024 presidential bid. “I’m No. 1 in personal freedoms. Sorry, Ron, you’re No. 2,” he added, a jab at Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis, considered a frontrunner for the 2024 Republican presidential nomination.

    “I would challenge anyone on Second Amendment rights. We’re far and away the best, you know, because we believe in those individual freedoms. Regulatory reform, I’ll challenge any state on it,” Sununu added.

    Sununu acknowledged that he may be “more moderate” on social issues. But on those issues, New Hampshire has “better results than almost anywhere else,” he said.

    “I would challenge anyone on conservative credentials.”

    Sununu also took shots at Democratic Party plans to strip New Hampshire of its first-in-the-nation status in the presidential primary calendar, calling the move “a complete fool’s errand,” and saying the plan to bestow that status on South Carolina would open President Joe Biden up to primary attacks.

    “He’s really opened... himself up for challengers,” Sununu said. “And I firmly believe there will be challengers.”

    “They’re gonna have to let it play out. But there’s no doubt someone will step in and be a real challenger to Biden, because he tried to move the primary away from [New Hampshire],” Sununu said.

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  • Kat
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    mickeyrat said:
    Kat said:
    There are times I just have to believe my own eyes and ears. 




    I like your non-mod participation.


    thanks for this post.
    Concerned citizen first, and thank you, mickeyrat. If I see something to contribute, I'll bring it. There's a lot to talk about. 

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  • pjhawks
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    Kat said:
    There are times I just have to believe my own eyes and ears. 



    no idea how people still vote for this party when they speak like this.  unless you are wealthy you are just voting against your own interests. it's crazy to me and I know plenty of people who will not vote for Dems.  I really don't understand it.  And I don't mean to imply that Dems don't have plenty of flaws but in general they aren't out to screw the average American.  
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  • Gern Blansten
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    pjhawks said:
    Kat said:
    There are times I just have to believe my own eyes and ears. 



    no idea how people still vote for this party when they speak like this.  unless you are wealthy you are just voting against your own interests. it's crazy to me and I know plenty of people who will not vote for Dems.  I really don't understand it.  And I don't mean to imply that Dems don't have plenty of flaws but in general they aren't out to screw the average American.  
    Even if you are wealthy how do you justify voting GOP? I agree with you though....I always have told my kids that the Dems are about people and Repubs are against everything the Dems are for.

    Literally it makes no sense for a small gov't repub to support laws against abortion. That's the ultimate government power grab.
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  • mickeyrat
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    cue the outrage machine....



     
    Chick-fil-A tests its first plant-based sandwich
    By DEE-ANN DURBIN
    Today

    Chick-fil-A is jumping on the plant-based bandwagon.

    The Atlanta chain said Thursday that it’s testing its first plant-based entrée __ a breaded cauliflower sandwich __ at restaurants in Denver; Charleston, South Carolina; and the Greensboro, North Carolina, area. The test begins Feb. 13.

    Chick-fil-A said its culinary team spent four years developing the sandwich after guests told the chain they wanted to add more vegetables to their diets. Chick-fil-A tested mushrooms, chickpeas and chopped vegetables formed into patties but kept returning to cauliflower for its mild flavor.

    Like Chick-fil-A’s signature chicken sandwich, the cauliflower steak is marinated, breaded, pressure-cooked and then served on a bun with two pickle slices.

    Chick-fil-A is a relative latecomer to the plant-based fast food scene. Burger King started selling its Impossible Whopper __ featuring a plant-based burger made by Impossible Foods __ in 2019. Starbucks launched an Impossible sausage sandwich in 2020. McDonald’s debuted its McPlant burger __ developed with Beyond Meat __ in the United Kingdom in 2021. And KFC began selling Beyond Meat nuggets last year.


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  • mickeyrat said:
    cue the outrage machine....



     
    Chick-fil-A tests its first plant-based sandwich
    By DEE-ANN DURBIN
    Today

    Chick-fil-A is jumping on the plant-based bandwagon.

    The Atlanta chain said Thursday that it’s testing its first plant-based entrée __ a breaded cauliflower sandwich __ at restaurants in Denver; Charleston, South Carolina; and the Greensboro, North Carolina, area. The test begins Feb. 13.

    Chick-fil-A said its culinary team spent four years developing the sandwich after guests told the chain they wanted to add more vegetables to their diets. Chick-fil-A tested mushrooms, chickpeas and chopped vegetables formed into patties but kept returning to cauliflower for its mild flavor.

    Like Chick-fil-A’s signature chicken sandwich, the cauliflower steak is marinated, breaded, pressure-cooked and then served on a bun with two pickle slices.

    Chick-fil-A is a relative latecomer to the plant-based fast food scene. Burger King started selling its Impossible Whopper __ featuring a plant-based burger made by Impossible Foods __ in 2019. Starbucks launched an Impossible sausage sandwich in 2020. McDonald’s debuted its McPlant burger __ developed with Beyond Meat __ in the United Kingdom in 2021. And KFC began selling Beyond Meat nuggets last year.


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  • The Juggler
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    mickeyrat said:
    cue the outrage machine....



     
    Chick-fil-A tests its first plant-based sandwich
    By DEE-ANN DURBIN
    Today

    Chick-fil-A is jumping on the plant-based bandwagon.

    The Atlanta chain said Thursday that it’s testing its first plant-based entrée __ a breaded cauliflower sandwich __ at restaurants in Denver; Charleston, South Carolina; and the Greensboro, North Carolina, area. The test begins Feb. 13.

    Chick-fil-A said its culinary team spent four years developing the sandwich after guests told the chain they wanted to add more vegetables to their diets. Chick-fil-A tested mushrooms, chickpeas and chopped vegetables formed into patties but kept returning to cauliflower for its mild flavor.

    Like Chick-fil-A’s signature chicken sandwich, the cauliflower steak is marinated, breaded, pressure-cooked and then served on a bun with two pickle slices.

    Chick-fil-A is a relative latecomer to the plant-based fast food scene. Burger King started selling its Impossible Whopper __ featuring a plant-based burger made by Impossible Foods __ in 2019. Starbucks launched an Impossible sausage sandwich in 2020. McDonald’s debuted its McPlant burger __ developed with Beyond Meat __ in the United Kingdom in 2021. And KFC began selling Beyond Meat nuggets last year.


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    https://www.theguardian.com/books/2023/feb/09/mitt-romney-book-republicans-authoritarian-biography

    Mitt Romney to mull Republicans’ ‘slide toward authoritarianism’ in biography

    Biographer of Utah senator and former presidential nominee ‘astonished by his level of candor’ in cooperating with new book

    Mitt Romney lost the 2012 presidential election to Barack Obama and was later elected to the US Senate where he twice voted to impeach Donald Trump
    Mitt Romney lost the 2012 election to Barack Obama and was later elected to the US Senate, where he twice voted to impeach Donald Trump. Photograph: Amanda Andrade-Rhoades/Reuters
    Thu 9 Feb 2023 08.45 EST

    In a new biography, the Utah senator and former US presidential nominee Mitt Romney will reportedly consider the Republican party’s “slide toward authoritarianism” and how he may have helped empower extremists.


    The book will be called Romney: A Reckoning and will be published in October. News of its release comes after the senator made headlines by confronting George Santos, the New York fabulist who has rocked the House Republican party, before Joe Biden’s State of the Union address.

    Romney said Santos was a “sick puppy” who did not belong in Congress. Santos, who faces investigations and calls to resign but remains a key vote in support of the House speaker, Kevin McCarthy, responded by taunting Romney over his failed presidential ambitions.

    Romney’s biographer, McKay Coppins, told Axios of the senator’s “candor”.

    “I’ve been covering Senator Romney for more than a decade,” Coppins said. “When I approached him two years ago about writing this biography, I told him it would only work if he was ready to be completely forthcoming.

    “He reacted like it was a dare. I was astonished by his level of candor.”

    Axios said Romney’s cooperation extended to giving Coppins “private emails, text messages and diary entries … including real-time communications among many of the most powerful figures in American politics”.

    Emails and journal pages, it said, covered the 2012 presidential election. In that contest, Romney, a financier and former Massachusetts governor regarded as a Republican with appeal to middle America, lost conclusively to Barack Obama.

    In 2016, Romney first opposed Donald Trump then flirted with working for him as secretary of state.

    Elected to the Senate in Utah in 2018, Romney returned to opposing Trump as a more moderate voice in the congressional Republican party.

    Romney was the only Republican senator to vote to convict Trump in his first impeachment trial, for seeking political dirt from Ukraine. He was one of seven senators who voted to convict in Trump’s second trial, for inciting the Capitol riot.

    According to Axios, Romney considered a memoir but opted to cooperate with Coppins, without editorial control, because he felt he could not be “objective about my own life”.

    Coppins, the site said, will now “show Romney himself reckoning with what he considers his party’s slide toward authoritarianism and what role he may have played in empowering the extreme forces within the GOP”.

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    https://www.theguardian.com/books/2023/feb/09/mitt-romney-book-republicans-authoritarian-biography

    Mitt Romney to mull Republicans’ ‘slide toward authoritarianism’ in biography

    Biographer of Utah senator and former presidential nominee ‘astonished by his level of candor’ in cooperating with new book

    Mitt Romney lost the 2012 presidential election to Barack Obama and was later elected to the US Senate where he twice voted to impeach Donald Trump
    Mitt Romney lost the 2012 election to Barack Obama and was later elected to the US Senate, where he twice voted to impeach Donald Trump. Photograph: Amanda Andrade-Rhoades/Reuters
    Thu 9 Feb 2023 08.45 EST


    In a new biography, the Utah senator and former US presidential nominee Mitt Romney will reportedly consider the Republican party’s “slide toward authoritarianism” and how he may have helped empower extremists.


    The book will be called Romney: A Reckoning and will be published in October. News of its release comes after the senator made headlines by confronting George Santos, the New York fabulist who has rocked the House Republican party, before Joe Biden’s State of the Union address.

    Romney said Santos was a “sick puppy” who did not belong in Congress. Santos, who faces investigations and calls to resign but remains a key vote in support of the House speaker, Kevin McCarthy, responded by taunting Romney over his failed presidential ambitions.

    Romney’s biographer, McKay Coppins, told Axios of the senator’s “candor”.

    “I’ve been covering Senator Romney for more than a decade,” Coppins said. “When I approached him two years ago about writing this biography, I told him it would only work if he was ready to be completely forthcoming.

    “He reacted like it was a dare. I was astonished by his level of candor.”

    Axios said Romney’s cooperation extended to giving Coppins “private emails, text messages and diary entries … including real-time communications among many of the most powerful figures in American politics”.

    Emails and journal pages, it said, covered the 2012 presidential election. In that contest, Romney, a financier and former Massachusetts governor regarded as a Republican with appeal to middle America, lost conclusively to Barack Obama.

    In 2016, Romney first opposed Donald Trump then flirted with working for him as secretary of state.

    Elected to the Senate in Utah in 2018, Romney returned to opposing Trump as a more moderate voice in the congressional Republican party.

    Romney was the only Republican senator to vote to convict Trump in his first impeachment trial, for seeking political dirt from Ukraine. He was one of seven senators who voted to convict in Trump’s second trial, for inciting the Capitol riot.

    According to Axios, Romney considered a memoir but opted to cooperate with Coppins, without editorial control, because he felt he could not be “objective about my own life”.

    Coppins, the site said, will now “show Romney himself reckoning with what he considers his party’s slide toward authoritarianism and what role he may have played in empowering the extreme forces within the GOP”.


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  • https://www.theguardian.com/books/2023/feb/09/mitt-romney-book-republicans-authoritarian-biography

    Mitt Romney to mull Republicans’ ‘slide toward authoritarianism’ in biography

    Biographer of Utah senator and former presidential nominee ‘astonished by his level of candor’ in cooperating with new book

    Mitt Romney lost the 2012 presidential election to Barack Obama and was later elected to the US Senate where he twice voted to impeach Donald Trump
    Mitt Romney lost the 2012 election to Barack Obama and was later elected to the US Senate, where he twice voted to impeach Donald Trump. Photograph: Amanda Andrade-Rhoades/Reuters
    Thu 9 Feb 2023 08.45 EST

    In a new biography, the Utah senator and former US presidential nominee Mitt Romney will reportedly consider the Republican party’s “slide toward authoritarianism” and how he may have helped empower extremists.


    The book will be called Romney: A Reckoning and will be published in October. News of its release comes after the senator made headlines by confronting George Santos, the New York fabulist who has rocked the House Republican party, before Joe Biden’s State of the Union address.

    Romney said Santos was a “sick puppy” who did not belong in Congress. Santos, who faces investigations and calls to resign but remains a key vote in support of the House speaker, Kevin McCarthy, responded by taunting Romney over his failed presidential ambitions.

    Romney’s biographer, McKay Coppins, told Axios of the senator’s “candor”.

    “I’ve been covering Senator Romney for more than a decade,” Coppins said. “When I approached him two years ago about writing this biography, I told him it would only work if he was ready to be completely forthcoming.

    “He reacted like it was a dare. I was astonished by his level of candor.”

    Axios said Romney’s cooperation extended to giving Coppins “private emails, text messages and diary entries … including real-time communications among many of the most powerful figures in American politics”.

    Emails and journal pages, it said, covered the 2012 presidential election. In that contest, Romney, a financier and former Massachusetts governor regarded as a Republican with appeal to middle America, lost conclusively to Barack Obama.

    In 2016, Romney first opposed Donald Trump then flirted with working for him as secretary of state.

    Elected to the Senate in Utah in 2018, Romney returned to opposing Trump as a more moderate voice in the congressional Republican party.

    Romney was the only Republican senator to vote to convict Trump in his first impeachment trial, for seeking political dirt from Ukraine. He was one of seven senators who voted to convict in Trump’s second trial, for inciting the Capitol riot.

    According to Axios, Romney considered a memoir but opted to cooperate with Coppins, without editorial control, because he felt he could not be “objective about my own life”.

    Coppins, the site said, will now “show Romney himself reckoning with what he considers his party’s slide toward authoritarianism and what role he may have played in empowering the extreme forces within the GOP”.

    "Slide toward authoritarianism?" More like headlong dive. And we were told that "it couldn't happen here."

    Adherents of Christian nationalism are nearly seven times as likely as rejecters to agree that ‘true patriots might have to resort to violence to save our country’ (40% vs. 16%),” the news release said. In addition, “While only about 3 in 10 Americans (28%) agree that ‘because things have gotten so far off track in this country, we need a leader who is willing to break some rules if that’s what it takes to set thing right,’ half of Christian nationalism adherents and nearly 4 in 10 sympathizers (38%) support the idea of an authoritarian leader.”

    There is also a strong racist/white grievance element:

    Around four in ten Americans (41%) agree that discrimination against white Americans is as big of a problem as discrimination against Black Americans and other minorities, compared to 58% who disagree. Approximately two-thirds of Christian nationalism sympathizers (66%) and more than three-quarters of Christian nationalism adherents (77%) agree with this statement. Among Christian nationalism sympathizers and adherents who are white, agreement with this sentiment rises to 73% and 85%, respectively.

    Moreover, a stunning 83 percent of adherents think “God intended America to be a new promised land where European Christians could create a society that could be an example to the rest of the world.” Two-thirds of Americans overall reject this explicitly racist statement

    More than 70 percent of adherents embrace replacement theory, nearly one-quarter harbor the antisemitic view that Jews hold too many positions of power and 44 percent believe Jews are more loyal to Israel than America, the poll found. More than 65 percent think Muslims from some countries should be banned. Almost 70 percent believe “the husband is the head of the household in ‘a truly Christian family’ and his wife submits to his leadership.”

    If you thing this sounds like MAGA tripe, you’re right. This is the hardcore MAGA base. More alarming: “Nearly six in ten QAnon believers are also either Christian nationalism sympathizers (29%) or adherents (29%).”

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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,680
    edited February 2023
    Who has watched The Family, the limited series documentary on Netflix? Watch it! The US is indeed leaping towards authoritarianism, in the form of a theocracy, and this doc shows you some of that shit storm that's been brewing for so so so long. I just wish it had been released more recently - it could use another episode or two added on now!
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • Anybody watch this or even heard of it?  Proud Family on Disney.  Of course FOX is all over it.  Friend of mine posted this but haven't seen anything on it really.  Trying to find a good article that isn't from FOX about it.
    https://www.foxnews.com/media/disney-digging-grave-woke-nonsense-karol-markowicz
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    Just a few miles from me....I should go say hi
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    Just a few miles from me....I should go say hi


    Only if it’s “consensual“ mmmm


  • Just a few miles from me....I should go say hi


    Only if it’s “consensual“ mmmm
    Is mother present or is it all male FBI agents?
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