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  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,599
    edited December 2022
    The tide is turning a bit...
    They added another 1/2 percent.
  • Shaq says it's "shrinkflation and just another form of robbery"
  • Shaq says it's "shrinkflation and just another form of robbery"
    I typically call Shaq when I want guidance on the economy or economic policy, particularly monetary policy and what the Fed might do and where its all headed. Gotta stay ahead of the curve.
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  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,918
    Shaq says it's "shrinkflation and just another form of robbery"
    I typically call Shaq when I want guidance on the economy or economic policy, particularly monetary policy and what the Fed might do and where its all headed. Gotta stay ahead of the curve.
    I call him for free throw advice. 
  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,598
    The tide is turning a bit...
    They added another 1/2 percent.
    Everyone knew they would. Check the 10 year. 
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  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,918
    The tide is turning a bit...
    They added another 1/2 percent.
    Everyone knew they would. Check the 10 year. 
    The problem is the comments, that the rate hikes are likely not over.  I think the market expected this to be the last one after yesterday's inflation news.  
  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,598
    edited December 2022
    mrussel1 said:
    The tide is turning a bit...
    They added another 1/2 percent.
    Everyone knew they would. Check the 10 year. 
    The problem is the comments, that the rate hikes are likely not over.  I think the market expected this to be the last one after yesterday's inflation news.  
    Yeah but the bond market did not seem to believe everything he was saying though. That is why the 10 yr, after initially jumping up, is now broaching 3.4 again. As he was talking it was going down. If unemployment ticks up to the level he mentioned, that is a recession. They're not going to continue raising rates if we're nearing that level. I bet we see mortgage rates around 5% ish or below a whole lot faster than most people think. 

    Logan Mohtashami is a good follow on twitter for this stuff. 

    Also, I don't think the market realistically expected yesterday to be the last increase. Likely have just a couple, maybe a few left. 
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  • mrussel1 said:
    The tide is turning a bit...
    They added another 1/2 percent.
    Everyone knew they would. Check the 10 year. 
    The problem is the comments, that the rate hikes are likely not over.  I think the market expected this to be the last one after yesterday's inflation news.  
    Yeah but the bond market did not seem to believe everything he was saying though. That is why the 10 yr, after initially jumping up, is now broaching 3.4 again. As he was talking it was going down. If unemployment ticks up to the level he mentioned, that is a recession. They're not going to continue raising rates if we're nearing that level. I bet we see mortgage rates around 5% ish or below a whole lot faster than most people think. 

    Logan Mohtashami is a good follow on twitter for this stuff. 

    Also, I don't think the market realistically expected yesterday to be the last increase. Likely have just a couple, maybe a few left. 
    Yes, we will have a few more increases most likely.  It's friggin crazy.

    Houses, rightly so, are losing 33% of their gains.  I thought the housing market was an inflated bubble anyways.  Bungalows that couldn't sell for 200K are now offered for 800k where I live .  GFY!
  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,598
    mrussel1 said:
    The tide is turning a bit...
    They added another 1/2 percent.
    Everyone knew they would. Check the 10 year. 
    The problem is the comments, that the rate hikes are likely not over.  I think the market expected this to be the last one after yesterday's inflation news.  
    Yeah but the bond market did not seem to believe everything he was saying though. That is why the 10 yr, after initially jumping up, is now broaching 3.4 again. As he was talking it was going down. If unemployment ticks up to the level he mentioned, that is a recession. They're not going to continue raising rates if we're nearing that level. I bet we see mortgage rates around 5% ish or below a whole lot faster than most people think. 

    Logan Mohtashami is a good follow on twitter for this stuff. 

    Also, I don't think the market realistically expected yesterday to be the last increase. Likely have just a couple, maybe a few left. 
    Yes, we will have a few more increases most likely.  It's friggin crazy.

    Houses, rightly so, are losing 33% of their gains.  I thought the housing market was an inflated bubble anyways.  Bungalows that couldn't sell for 200K are now offered for 800k where I live .  GFY!
    Yeah but there was soooo much equity there to start with. Once rates start coming down, the values will swing the other way.


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  • mickeyrat
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    Wells Fargo to pay $3.7B over consumer law violations
    By KEN SWEET
    1 hour ago

    WASHINGTON (AP) — Consumer banking giant Wells Fargo agreed to pay $3.7 billion to settle charges that it harmed customers by charging illegal fees and interest on auto loans and mortgages, as well as incorrectly applying overdraft fees against savings and checking accounts.

    Wells was ordered to repay $2 billion to consumers by the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau, which also enacted a $1.7 billion penalty against the San Francisco bank Tuesday. It's the largest fine ever leveled against a bank by the CFPB and the largest yet against Wells, which has spent years trying to rehabilitate its image after a series of scandals tied to its sales practices.

    Regulators made it clear, however, that they believe Wells Fargo has further to go on that front.

    “Put simply: Wells Fargo is a corporate recidivist that puts one out of three Americans at risk for potential harm,” said CFPB Director Rohit Chopra, in a call with reporters.

    The bank's pattern of behavior has made it necessary for regulators to take additional actions against Wells Fargo that go beyond the $3.7 billion in fines and penalties, Chopra said.

    The violations impacted more than 16 million customers, the bureau said. In addition to improperly charging auto loan customers with fees and interest, the bank wrongfully repossessed vehicles in some cases. The bank also improperly denied thousands of mortgage loan modifications for homeowners.

    Wells Fargo has been sanctioned repeatedly by U.S. regulators for violations of consumer protection laws going back to 2016, when employees were found to have opened millions of accounts illegally in order to meet unrealistic sales goals. Since then, executives have repeatedly said Wells is cleaning up its act, only for the bank to be found in violation of other parts of consumer protection law, including in its auto and mortgage lending businesses.

    Wells paid a $1 billion penalty in 2018 for widespread consumer law violations, the largest against a bank for such violations at the time.

    The bank had signaled to its investors that it anticipated additional fines and penalties from regulators and aside $2 billion in the third quarter for that reason.

    Wells remains under a Federal Reserve order forbidding the bank from growing any larger until the Fed deems that its problems are resolved. That order, originally enacted in 2018, was expected to last only a year or two.

    CEO Charles Scharf said in a prepared statement Tuesday that the agreement with the CFPB is part of an effort to "transform operating practices at Wells Fargo and to put these issues behind us.”

    While Wells Fargo tried to frame the agreement with the CFPB as a resolution of established bad behavior, CFPB officials said some of the violations cited in Tuesday's order took place this year.

    “This should not been seen as Wells Fargo has moved past its problems,” Chopra said.


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  • mickeyrat said:

     
    Wells Fargo to pay $3.7B over consumer law violations
    By KEN SWEET
    1 hour ago

    WASHINGTON (AP) — Consumer banking giant Wells Fargo agreed to pay $3.7 billion to settle charges that it harmed customers by charging illegal fees and interest on auto loans and mortgages, as well as incorrectly applying overdraft fees against savings and checking accounts.

    Wells was ordered to repay $2 billion to consumers by the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau, which also enacted a $1.7 billion penalty against the San Francisco bank Tuesday. It's the largest fine ever leveled against a bank by the CFPB and the largest yet against Wells, which has spent years trying to rehabilitate its image after a series of scandals tied to its sales practices.

    Regulators made it clear, however, that they believe Wells Fargo has further to go on that front.

    “Put simply: Wells Fargo is a corporate recidivist that puts one out of three Americans at risk for potential harm,” said CFPB Director Rohit Chopra, in a call with reporters.

    The bank's pattern of behavior has made it necessary for regulators to take additional actions against Wells Fargo that go beyond the $3.7 billion in fines and penalties, Chopra said.

    The violations impacted more than 16 million customers, the bureau said. In addition to improperly charging auto loan customers with fees and interest, the bank wrongfully repossessed vehicles in some cases. The bank also improperly denied thousands of mortgage loan modifications for homeowners.

    Wells Fargo has been sanctioned repeatedly by U.S. regulators for violations of consumer protection laws going back to 2016, when employees were found to have opened millions of accounts illegally in order to meet unrealistic sales goals. Since then, executives have repeatedly said Wells is cleaning up its act, only for the bank to be found in violation of other parts of consumer protection law, including in its auto and mortgage lending businesses.

    Wells paid a $1 billion penalty in 2018 for widespread consumer law violations, the largest against a bank for such violations at the time.

    The bank had signaled to its investors that it anticipated additional fines and penalties from regulators and aside $2 billion in the third quarter for that reason.

    Wells remains under a Federal Reserve order forbidding the bank from growing any larger until the Fed deems that its problems are resolved. That order, originally enacted in 2018, was expected to last only a year or two.

    CEO Charles Scharf said in a prepared statement Tuesday that the agreement with the CFPB is part of an effort to "transform operating practices at Wells Fargo and to put these issues behind us.”

    While Wells Fargo tried to frame the agreement with the CFPB as a resolution of established bad behavior, CFPB officials said some of the violations cited in Tuesday's order took place this year.

    “This should not been seen as Wells Fargo has moved past its problems,” Chopra said.


    CEOs need to go to jail when they do shit like this.
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  • Thanks Brandon, really appreciate it! Particularly rich is that Barry spoke at a conference at the Milkin Institute in Beverly Hills.

    Rising rents were a crisis for tenants. For Starwood, they were a gift.

    The company has become one of the nation’s largest landlords in recent years and imposed some daunting rent hikes

    For tenants across the country, the huge rent hikes of recent years have been a burden. For the private investment firms emerging as America’s landlords, they’ve been a bonanza.

    Amid a flurry of sales over the past decade, when more than $1 trillion of apartment buildings changed hands, private investors and real estate trusts went on a binge: The proportion of apartments sold to them rose from 44 percent in 2011 to 70 percent in early 2022, according to data and research firm MSCI.

    Many of those same firms imposed aggressive rent increases and rode the historic wave of rent hikes to big profits.

    Few, however, stood to benefit more than Starwood Capital Group.

    A private investment firm led by Florida billionaire Barry Sternlicht, Starwood has been one of the most active acquirers of apartments, and a model for the industry. Over the past seven years, it has amassed a portfolio of more than 115,000 apartments, which by some rankings stands as the nation’s largest such collection.

    Private firms rarely disclose specific information about rent hikes, but according to leases reviewed by The Washington Post, prices at some Starwood complexes increased by 30 percent or more.

    At Starwood’s Wellington Green in Palm Beach County, Fla., the company raised some rents by as much as 52 percent in 2022; at the Griffin Apartments in Scottsdale, Ariz., it increased them by 35 percent. At the Cove at Boynton Beach, it boosted rents on some units by as much as 93 percent in 2022.

    At some Starwood apartment complexes intended for low-income tenants and built with government subsidies, the company increased rents by 10 percent. Though the rents on such units are limited by Department of Housing and Urban Development guidelines, the company began charging higher rent soon after the government lifted the limits, even for tenants who were mid-lease.

    “Tenants seem capable and willing to pay these rent increases,” Sternlicht said in early 2022 in a call with investors. “I think this is the strongest real estate market I’ve seen in 30 years, 35 years.”

    While Starwood says its prices merely reflect market forces and its own rising costs, the growing role of private investors among the nation’s apartment landlords coincides with a historic wave of rent hikes.

    In 2021, rent increases were more than double what they had been any previous year, according to the Yardi Matrix Multifamily National Report, with asking rents jumping by 10 percent or more in 26 major metropolitan areas. The increases continued through at least October 2022, when rents were rising about 8 percent annually.

    “When they said my rent was going up, I was like, ‘What in the world?’” said Sakeema Rainner, 29, who with her four children rented a government-subsidized West Palm Beach apartment where she said the rent jumped about 10 percent. “They just don’t care.”

    Starwood provided some figures to The Post showing that the company raised rents at an average rate of 17 percent in its top 10 markets from January to September 2022. By comparison, overall rents rose in those same markets at a rate of about 12 percent over that period, according to numbers from CoStar, the data firm, shared by Starwood.

    The company raised rents more slowly than competitors in 2021, however, according to the figures it provided: It boosted rents by 6 percent while competitors in those markets raised rates by 12 percent.

    In a statement, the company said that it has a legal responsibility to reward its investors and that it is “contending with record increases in operating expenses and interest on our mortgages.”

    “Starwood is one of the world’s premier real estate investors and owner of apartment properties,” the company said in its statement. “Our reputation is extremely important to us both as an investor and a landlord, and it is something we take very seriously. We would not have been able to grow and maintain our portfolio at this size if we acted differently than any other landlord in this space.”

    Tenants

    Contrary to Sternlicht’s assessment that tenants are “capable and willing” to pay more, those at several Florida apartment complexes owned by Starwood affiliates said they are struggling to pay the higher rates.

    Continues…..

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2023/01/02/starwood-rents-apartments-private-investors/

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  • Remember when it was cheaper to rent than buy?
  • Thanks Brandon, really appreciate it! Particularly rich is that Barry spoke at a conference at the Milkin Institute in Beverly Hills.

    Rising rents were a crisis for tenants. For Starwood, they were a gift.

    The company has become one of the nation’s largest landlords in recent years and imposed some daunting rent hikes

    For tenants across the country, the huge rent hikes of recent years have been a burden. For the private investment firms emerging as America’s landlords, they’ve been a bonanza.

    Amid a flurry of sales over the past decade, when more than $1 trillion of apartment buildings changed hands, private investors and real estate trusts went on a binge: The proportion of apartments sold to them rose from 44 percent in 2011 to 70 percent in early 2022, according to data and research firm MSCI.

    Many of those same firms imposed aggressive rent increases and rode the historic wave of rent hikes to big profits.

    Few, however, stood to benefit more than Starwood Capital Group.

    A private investment firm led by Florida billionaire Barry Sternlicht, Starwood has been one of the most active acquirers of apartments, and a model for the industry. Over the past seven years, it has amassed a portfolio of more than 115,000 apartments, which by some rankings stands as the nation’s largest such collection.

    Private firms rarely disclose specific information about rent hikes, but according to leases reviewed by The Washington Post, prices at some Starwood complexes increased by 30 percent or more.

    At Starwood’s Wellington Green in Palm Beach County, Fla., the company raised some rents by as much as 52 percent in 2022; at the Griffin Apartments in Scottsdale, Ariz., it increased them by 35 percent. At the Cove at Boynton Beach, it boosted rents on some units by as much as 93 percent in 2022.

    At some Starwood apartment complexes intended for low-income tenants and built with government subsidies, the company increased rents by 10 percent. Though the rents on such units are limited by Department of Housing and Urban Development guidelines, the company began charging higher rent soon after the government lifted the limits, even for tenants who were mid-lease.

    “Tenants seem capable and willing to pay these rent increases,” Sternlicht said in early 2022 in a call with investors. “I think this is the strongest real estate market I’ve seen in 30 years, 35 years.”

    While Starwood says its prices merely reflect market forces and its own rising costs, the growing role of private investors among the nation’s apartment landlords coincides with a historic wave of rent hikes.

    In 2021, rent increases were more than double what they had been any previous year, according to the Yardi Matrix Multifamily National Report, with asking rents jumping by 10 percent or more in 26 major metropolitan areas. The increases continued through at least October 2022, when rents were rising about 8 percent annually.

    “When they said my rent was going up, I was like, ‘What in the world?’” said Sakeema Rainner, 29, who with her four children rented a government-subsidized West Palm Beach apartment where she said the rent jumped about 10 percent. “They just don’t care.”

    Starwood provided some figures to The Post showing that the company raised rents at an average rate of 17 percent in its top 10 markets from January to September 2022. By comparison, overall rents rose in those same markets at a rate of about 12 percent over that period, according to numbers from CoStar, the data firm, shared by Starwood.

    The company raised rents more slowly than competitors in 2021, however, according to the figures it provided: It boosted rents by 6 percent while competitors in those markets raised rates by 12 percent.

    In a statement, the company said that it has a legal responsibility to reward its investors and that it is “contending with record increases in operating expenses and interest on our mortgages.”

    “Starwood is one of the world’s premier real estate investors and owner of apartment properties,” the company said in its statement. “Our reputation is extremely important to us both as an investor and a landlord, and it is something we take very seriously. We would not have been able to grow and maintain our portfolio at this size if we acted differently than any other landlord in this space.”

    Tenants

    Contrary to Sternlicht’s assessment that tenants are “capable and willing” to pay more, those at several Florida apartment complexes owned by Starwood affiliates said they are struggling to pay the higher rates.

    Continues…..

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2023/01/02/starwood-rents-apartments-private-investors/

    I've had this conversation with people who didn't believe me that corporations were creating the uptick in housing pricing. This article is a pretty damn good example of it.
  • static111
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    Thanks Brandon, really appreciate it! Particularly rich is that Barry spoke at a conference at the Milkin Institute in Beverly Hills.

    Rising rents were a crisis for tenants. For Starwood, they were a gift.

    The company has become one of the nation’s largest landlords in recent years and imposed some daunting rent hikes

    For tenants across the country, the huge rent hikes of recent years have been a burden. For the private investment firms emerging as America’s landlords, they’ve been a bonanza.

    Amid a flurry of sales over the past decade, when more than $1 trillion of apartment buildings changed hands, private investors and real estate trusts went on a binge: The proportion of apartments sold to them rose from 44 percent in 2011 to 70 percent in early 2022, according to data and research firm MSCI.

    Many of those same firms imposed aggressive rent increases and rode the historic wave of rent hikes to big profits.

    Few, however, stood to benefit more than Starwood Capital Group.

    A private investment firm led by Florida billionaire Barry Sternlicht, Starwood has been one of the most active acquirers of apartments, and a model for the industry. Over the past seven years, it has amassed a portfolio of more than 115,000 apartments, which by some rankings stands as the nation’s largest such collection.

    Private firms rarely disclose specific information about rent hikes, but according to leases reviewed by The Washington Post, prices at some Starwood complexes increased by 30 percent or more.

    At Starwood’s Wellington Green in Palm Beach County, Fla., the company raised some rents by as much as 52 percent in 2022; at the Griffin Apartments in Scottsdale, Ariz., it increased them by 35 percent. At the Cove at Boynton Beach, it boosted rents on some units by as much as 93 percent in 2022.

    At some Starwood apartment complexes intended for low-income tenants and built with government subsidies, the company increased rents by 10 percent. Though the rents on such units are limited by Department of Housing and Urban Development guidelines, the company began charging higher rent soon after the government lifted the limits, even for tenants who were mid-lease.

    “Tenants seem capable and willing to pay these rent increases,” Sternlicht said in early 2022 in a call with investors. “I think this is the strongest real estate market I’ve seen in 30 years, 35 years.”

    While Starwood says its prices merely reflect market forces and its own rising costs, the growing role of private investors among the nation’s apartment landlords coincides with a historic wave of rent hikes.

    In 2021, rent increases were more than double what they had been any previous year, according to the Yardi Matrix Multifamily National Report, with asking rents jumping by 10 percent or more in 26 major metropolitan areas. The increases continued through at least October 2022, when rents were rising about 8 percent annually.

    “When they said my rent was going up, I was like, ‘What in the world?’” said Sakeema Rainner, 29, who with her four children rented a government-subsidized West Palm Beach apartment where she said the rent jumped about 10 percent. “They just don’t care.”

    Starwood provided some figures to The Post showing that the company raised rents at an average rate of 17 percent in its top 10 markets from January to September 2022. By comparison, overall rents rose in those same markets at a rate of about 12 percent over that period, according to numbers from CoStar, the data firm, shared by Starwood.

    The company raised rents more slowly than competitors in 2021, however, according to the figures it provided: It boosted rents by 6 percent while competitors in those markets raised rates by 12 percent.

    In a statement, the company said that it has a legal responsibility to reward its investors and that it is “contending with record increases in operating expenses and interest on our mortgages.”

    “Starwood is one of the world’s premier real estate investors and owner of apartment properties,” the company said in its statement. “Our reputation is extremely important to us both as an investor and a landlord, and it is something we take very seriously. We would not have been able to grow and maintain our portfolio at this size if we acted differently than any other landlord in this space.”

    Tenants

    Contrary to Sternlicht’s assessment that tenants are “capable and willing” to pay more, those at several Florida apartment complexes owned by Starwood affiliates said they are struggling to pay the higher rates.

    Continues…..

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2023/01/02/starwood-rents-apartments-private-investors/

    I've had this conversation with people who didn't believe me that corporations were creating the uptick in housing pricing. This article is a pretty damn good example of it. It's not the corporations, they are just freely raising the rents to what the market will bear.  Fairly and freely the wonders of capitalism at work! I'm sure the shareholders are very happy and that's all that matters.
    Scio me nihil scire

    There are no kings inside the gates of eden
  • static111 said:
    Thanks Brandon, really appreciate it! Particularly rich is that Barry spoke at a conference at the Milkin Institute in Beverly Hills.

    Rising rents were a crisis for tenants. For Starwood, they were a gift.

    The company has become one of the nation’s largest landlords in recent years and imposed some daunting rent hikes

    For tenants across the country, the huge rent hikes of recent years have been a burden. For the private investment firms emerging as America’s landlords, they’ve been a bonanza.

    Amid a flurry of sales over the past decade, when more than $1 trillion of apartment buildings changed hands, private investors and real estate trusts went on a binge: The proportion of apartments sold to them rose from 44 percent in 2011 to 70 percent in early 2022, according to data and research firm MSCI.

    Many of those same firms imposed aggressive rent increases and rode the historic wave of rent hikes to big profits.

    Few, however, stood to benefit more than Starwood Capital Group.

    A private investment firm led by Florida billionaire Barry Sternlicht, Starwood has been one of the most active acquirers of apartments, and a model for the industry. Over the past seven years, it has amassed a portfolio of more than 115,000 apartments, which by some rankings stands as the nation’s largest such collection.

    Private firms rarely disclose specific information about rent hikes, but according to leases reviewed by The Washington Post, prices at some Starwood complexes increased by 30 percent or more.

    At Starwood’s Wellington Green in Palm Beach County, Fla., the company raised some rents by as much as 52 percent in 2022; at the Griffin Apartments in Scottsdale, Ariz., it increased them by 35 percent. At the Cove at Boynton Beach, it boosted rents on some units by as much as 93 percent in 2022.

    At some Starwood apartment complexes intended for low-income tenants and built with government subsidies, the company increased rents by 10 percent. Though the rents on such units are limited by Department of Housing and Urban Development guidelines, the company began charging higher rent soon after the government lifted the limits, even for tenants who were mid-lease.

    “Tenants seem capable and willing to pay these rent increases,” Sternlicht said in early 2022 in a call with investors. “I think this is the strongest real estate market I’ve seen in 30 years, 35 years.”

    While Starwood says its prices merely reflect market forces and its own rising costs, the growing role of private investors among the nation’s apartment landlords coincides with a historic wave of rent hikes.

    In 2021, rent increases were more than double what they had been any previous year, according to the Yardi Matrix Multifamily National Report, with asking rents jumping by 10 percent or more in 26 major metropolitan areas. The increases continued through at least October 2022, when rents were rising about 8 percent annually.

    “When they said my rent was going up, I was like, ‘What in the world?’” said Sakeema Rainner, 29, who with her four children rented a government-subsidized West Palm Beach apartment where she said the rent jumped about 10 percent. “They just don’t care.”

    Starwood provided some figures to The Post showing that the company raised rents at an average rate of 17 percent in its top 10 markets from January to September 2022. By comparison, overall rents rose in those same markets at a rate of about 12 percent over that period, according to numbers from CoStar, the data firm, shared by Starwood.

    The company raised rents more slowly than competitors in 2021, however, according to the figures it provided: It boosted rents by 6 percent while competitors in those markets raised rates by 12 percent.

    In a statement, the company said that it has a legal responsibility to reward its investors and that it is “contending with record increases in operating expenses and interest on our mortgages.”

    “Starwood is one of the world’s premier real estate investors and owner of apartment properties,” the company said in its statement. “Our reputation is extremely important to us both as an investor and a landlord, and it is something we take very seriously. We would not have been able to grow and maintain our portfolio at this size if we acted differently than any other landlord in this space.”

    Tenants

    Contrary to Sternlicht’s assessment that tenants are “capable and willing” to pay more, those at several Florida apartment complexes owned by Starwood affiliates said they are struggling to pay the higher rates.

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    https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2023/01/02/starwood-rents-apartments-private-investors/

    I've had this conversation with people who didn't believe me that corporations were creating the uptick in housing pricing. This article is a pretty damn good example of it.
    It's not the corporations, they are just freely raising the rents to what the market will bear.  Fairly and freely the wonders of capitalism at work! I'm sure the shareholders are very happy and that's all that matters. Freely?  Yeah sure.  People have to live places just like people have to buy food.  You can keep raising them and people aren't "freely" paying that.  It hurts them in the pockets.

    Raising rent 35% is fucking greed...  Same reason I haven't bought a new car, prices are too damn high.  I'll wait.  And yes their shareholders are happy, so are oil shareholders.
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,918
    TSLA down another 14% today (as of now).  At some point they will be worth buying.    
  • mrussel1 said:
    TSLA down another 14% today (as of now).  At some point they will be worth buying.    
    Talking w my cousin about them we like it at $75.

    Rivian is at $17.  Thats a damn steal.
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,918
    mrussel1 said:
    TSLA down another 14% today (as of now).  At some point they will be worth buying.    
    Talking w my cousin about them we like it at $75.

    Rivian is at $17.  Thats a damn steal.
    I like them at $75 too.  JPM lowered guidance to $120 per share, so $75 would be a win.  
  • nicknyr15
    nicknyr15 Posts: 9,331
    So weird watching liberals celebrate TsLA stock going down and conservatives celebrate “woke” Disney going down. What a weird world we live in. Yea take that Elon! Take that Disney! The only people getting hurt are shareholders.

     I sold Tesla around 1100 before the split, and thought I sold too early. Sure glad I got out. I always considered it a “bubble” stock.