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tempo_n_groove said:

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mrussel1 said:

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F Me In The Brain said:

tempo_n_groove said:

I'm glad no one is up in arms about Aikmens comment about taking off the dresses.

Football is sexist?  Not a shocker.  
I cannot stand Aikman pretty much forever.  (USC alum and 49ers fan....it is natural hate.  )

Troy is the man.

System QB.
Just hand the ball to Emmitt.

Yeah, because Irvin became a HOF receiver for handing it off to Smith...

You miss the point of my post, but Wob should get it assuming his old man memory is in tact.

I'm lost on this or did Wob call Aikman a system QB at some point?

Actually, it harkens back to Wob's insistence that Brady is merely an average "system" QB and that Aikman was a far superior QB to Brady.

with all the recent talk of “what’s wrong with brady?” I wonder if the elephant in the room might be his crumbling marriage. I guess that’s kind of off limits for the talking heads but, OMG, TB12 stands to lose some huge money. will jizzelle get half of his TV contract?

The Tiger Woods/Jeff Gordon syndrome.  When they lost their women they crumbled.  Gordon did come back though.  Tiger?  Not so much.

Back and knee injuries have been Tiger's problem the last 10 years, not his ex wife. That drama was temporary. 

When his wife left him he spiraled out of control.  He started getting hurt, DUI and so on.  Look at the timeline.  Golfer of the year blah blah blah up to 2009.
2010 divorce and ailments after.

Yeah but after that bullshit he became the number 1 player in the world again for a couple of years. Then the back and knee injuries started piling up but that happened like 4 years or so after the scandal. Injuries and father time are what has hindered Tiger.

Yes he did come back but again, when he lost his wife shit went south.  He didn't come back for 3 years. Even Gordon came back after a bit too.

Brady might be messed up from this and is too old to recover/bounce back?

Losing your lady takes a toll is what I am getting at.  I know there are more.  Anyone who dated Many Moore count, lol?  Or was that Jessica Simpson?  I forgot who was the kiss of death.

I think it is just a coincidence! How can you correlate a divorce with needing your back fused back together multiple times? That doesn't make any sense. All that stuff happened in 2009. Then he kept getting hurt in 2010 and 2011. Finally got healthy and won 8 times over the next two years and was the best in the world again. Then the injuries were nonstop for the next four years....but the divorce was way behind him by that point. 

Jessica Simpson was the one you are thinking of, I think. Didn't Romo date her?

Timeline shows he played like shit right after he got caught.  It seems as if the injuries were exasperated from that too.  When he was on top he was in another world.  That came crumbling down and he had to face reality.

The timeline you are referring to contain injuries completely unrelated to his scandal that started just months after the news broke. 
Linking a divorce to the downward spiral of an aging/injury prone athlete seems pretty ridiculous. The vast majority of professional athletes get divorced. 

At the same time, I think we all know that when personal lives are a mess, it bleeds into work life.  I see it all the time.  So it would stand to reason that a mess, public divorce for Tiger would have to affect his professional life, in some way.  Maybe he still played well, but if he had a stable home life, my guess is he would have played better. 

In the short term, probably. But to say that is the reason for his struggles for the last decade plus does not sound plausible at all to me, considering all of the other injuries that would have ended a lot of other golfers' careers. 

Decade?  I said Tiger came back but not so much.  He had that reprieve in 2013 and injuries prevailed after that.

I should have said he had a downfall because of his woman, it wasn't a decades worth though.

Your original quote said his career crumbled and he never really came back...insinuating that it was due to the divorce and not older age/debilitating injuries. 

His injuries actually started in 2008, before the divorce, which is more evidence that this is more a coincidence than anything else. 

Yep yep.  I didn't finish my thought in my head.  Got it.

Well he still one everything in 2009 too.  Again like I followed up on, I believe his injuries were exacerbated from the divorce.  It's my opinion.

At least you didn't discount double check Gordon or most likely don't give a shit about NASCAR, lol.  Gordon couldn't do anything right for a while there...  

tempo_n_groove said:

F Me In The Brain said:

Wobbie said:

Poncier said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Poncier said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Poncier said:

Wobbie said:

F Me In The Brain said:

tempo_n_groove said:

I'm glad no one is up in arms about Aikmens comment about taking off the dresses.

Football is sexist?  Not a shocker.  
I cannot stand Aikman pretty much forever.  (USC alum and 49ers fan....it is natural hate.  )

Troy is the man.

System QB.
Just hand the ball to Emmitt.

Yeah, because Irvin became a HOF receiver for handing it off to Smith...

You miss the point of my post, but Wob should get it assuming his old man memory is in tact.

I'm lost on this or did Wob call Aikman a system QB at some point?

Actually, it harkens back to Wob's insistence that Brady is merely an average "system" QB and that Aikman was a far superior QB to Brady.

with all the recent talk of “what’s wrong with brady?” I wonder if the elephant in the room might be his crumbling marriage. I guess that’s kind of off limits for the talking heads but, OMG, TB12 stands to lose some huge money. will jizzelle get half of his TV contract?

She was worth way more than he was up to a few years ago.  I don't know about now - guessing they don't count that stupid fox deal that doesn't start until he is done playing 

His TB12 business has to be worth a ton.

tempo_n_groove said:

The Juggler said:

tempo_n_groove said:

The Juggler said:

tempo_n_groove said:

The Juggler said:

mrussel1 said:

The Juggler said:

tempo_n_groove said:

The Juggler said:

tempo_n_groove said:

The Juggler said:

tempo_n_groove said:

The Juggler said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Wobbie said:

Poncier said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Poncier said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Poncier said:

Wobbie said:

F Me In The Brain said:

tempo_n_groove said:

I'm glad no one is up in arms about Aikmens comment about taking off the dresses.

Football is sexist?  Not a shocker.  
I cannot stand Aikman pretty much forever.  (USC alum and 49ers fan....it is natural hate.  )

Troy is the man.

System QB.
Just hand the ball to Emmitt.

Yeah, because Irvin became a HOF receiver for handing it off to Smith...

You miss the point of my post, but Wob should get it assuming his old man memory is in tact.

I'm lost on this or did Wob call Aikman a system QB at some point?

Actually, it harkens back to Wob's insistence that Brady is merely an average "system" QB and that Aikman was a far superior QB to Brady.

with all the recent talk of “what’s wrong with brady?” I wonder if the elephant in the room might be his crumbling marriage. I guess that’s kind of off limits for the talking heads but, OMG, TB12 stands to lose some huge money. will jizzelle get half of his TV contract?

The Tiger Woods/Jeff Gordon syndrome.  When they lost their women they crumbled.  Gordon did come back though.  Tiger?  Not so much.

Back and knee injuries have been Tiger's problem the last 10 years, not his ex wife. That drama was temporary. 

When his wife left him he spiraled out of control.  He started getting hurt, DUI and so on.  Look at the timeline.  Golfer of the year blah blah blah up to 2009.
2010 divorce and ailments after.

Yeah but after that bullshit he became the number 1 player in the world again for a couple of years. Then the back and knee injuries started piling up but that happened like 4 years or so after the scandal. Injuries and father time are what has hindered Tiger.

Yes he did come back but again, when he lost his wife shit went south.  He didn't come back for 3 years. Even Gordon came back after a bit too.

Brady might be messed up from this and is too old to recover/bounce back?

Losing your lady takes a toll is what I am getting at.  I know there are more.  Anyone who dated Many Moore count, lol?  Or was that Jessica Simpson?  I forgot who was the kiss of death.

I think it is just a coincidence! How can you correlate a divorce with needing your back fused back together multiple times? That doesn't make any sense. All that stuff happened in 2009. Then he kept getting hurt in 2010 and 2011. Finally got healthy and won 8 times over the next two years and was the best in the world again. Then the injuries were nonstop for the next four years....but the divorce was way behind him by that point. 

Jessica Simpson was the one you are thinking of, I think. Didn't Romo date her?

Timeline shows he played like shit right after he got caught.  It seems as if the injuries were exasperated from that too.  When he was on top he was in another world.  That came crumbling down and he had to face reality.

The timeline you are referring to contain injuries completely unrelated to his scandal that started just months after the news broke. 
Linking a divorce to the downward spiral of an aging/injury prone athlete seems pretty ridiculous. The vast majority of professional athletes get divorced. 

At the same time, I think we all know that when personal lives are a mess, it bleeds into work life.  I see it all the time.  So it would stand to reason that a mess, public divorce for Tiger would have to affect his professional life, in some way.  Maybe he still played well, but if he had a stable home life, my guess is he would have played better. 

In the short term, probably. But to say that is the reason for his struggles for the last decade plus does not sound plausible at all to me, considering all of the other injuries that would have ended a lot of other golfers' careers. 

Decade?  I said Tiger came back but not so much.  He had that reprieve in 2013 and injuries prevailed after that.

I should have said he had a downfall because of his woman, it wasn't a decades worth though.

Your original quote said his career crumbled and he never really came back...insinuating that it was due to the divorce and not older age/debilitating injuries. 

His injuries actually started in 2008, before the divorce, which is more evidence that this is more a coincidence than anything else. 

Yep yep.  I didn't finish my thought in my head.  Got it.

Well he still one everything in 2009 too.  Again like I followed up on, I believe his injuries were exacerbated from the divorce.  It's my opinion.

At least you didn't discount double check Gordon or most likely don't give a shit about NASCAR, lol.  Gordon couldn't do anything right for a while there...  

I can understand the point Russell made about that stuff taking a mental toll on him but I cannot connect the dots to unrelated injuries. 

I look at it like this, and it's not far fetched.

When you are on top of the world in another zone you can block out a bunch of things, you have that focus.  Once that is taken away then the facade comes down and reality sets in.

The Juggler said:

mrussel1 said:

The Juggler said:

tempo_n_groove said:

The Juggler said:

tempo_n_groove said:

The Juggler said:

tempo_n_groove said:

The Juggler said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Wobbie said:

Poncier said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Poncier said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Poncier said:

Wobbie said:

F Me In The Brain said:

tempo_n_groove said:

I'm glad no one is up in arms about Aikmens comment about taking off the dresses.

Football is sexist?  Not a shocker.  
I cannot stand Aikman pretty much forever.  (USC alum and 49ers fan....it is natural hate.  )

Troy is the man.

System QB.
Just hand the ball to Emmitt.

Yeah, because Irvin became a HOF receiver for handing it off to Smith...

You miss the point of my post, but Wob should get it assuming his old man memory is in tact.

I'm lost on this or did Wob call Aikman a system QB at some point?

Actually, it harkens back to Wob's insistence that Brady is merely an average "system" QB and that Aikman was a far superior QB to Brady.

with all the recent talk of “what’s wrong with brady?” I wonder if the elephant in the room might be his crumbling marriage. I guess that’s kind of off limits for the talking heads but, OMG, TB12 stands to lose some huge money. will jizzelle get half of his TV contract?

The Tiger Woods/Jeff Gordon syndrome.  When they lost their women they crumbled.  Gordon did come back though.  Tiger?  Not so much.

Back and knee injuries have been Tiger's problem the last 10 years, not his ex wife. That drama was temporary. 

When his wife left him he spiraled out of control.  He started getting hurt, DUI and so on.  Look at the timeline.  Golfer of the year blah blah blah up to 2009.
2010 divorce and ailments after.

Yeah but after that bullshit he became the number 1 player in the world again for a couple of years. Then the back and knee injuries started piling up but that happened like 4 years or so after the scandal. Injuries and father time are what has hindered Tiger.

Yes he did come back but again, when he lost his wife shit went south.  He didn't come back for 3 years. Even Gordon came back after a bit too.

Brady might be messed up from this and is too old to recover/bounce back?

Losing your lady takes a toll is what I am getting at.  I know there are more.  Anyone who dated Many Moore count, lol?  Or was that Jessica Simpson?  I forgot who was the kiss of death.

I think it is just a coincidence! How can you correlate a divorce with needing your back fused back together multiple times? That doesn't make any sense. All that stuff happened in 2009. Then he kept getting hurt in 2010 and 2011. Finally got healthy and won 8 times over the next two years and was the best in the world again. Then the injuries were nonstop for the next four years....but the divorce was way behind him by that point. 

Jessica Simpson was the one you are thinking of, I think. Didn't Romo date her?

Timeline shows he played like shit right after he got caught.  It seems as if the injuries were exasperated from that too.  When he was on top he was in another world.  That came crumbling down and he had to face reality.

The timeline you are referring to contain injuries completely unrelated to his scandal that started just months after the news broke. 
Linking a divorce to the downward spiral of an aging/injury prone athlete seems pretty ridiculous. The vast majority of professional athletes get divorced. 

At the same time, I think we all know that when personal lives are a mess, it bleeds into work life.  I see it all the time.  So it would stand to reason that a mess, public divorce for Tiger would have to affect his professional life, in some way.  Maybe he still played well, but if he had a stable home life, my guess is he would have played better. 

In the short term, probably. But to say that is the reason for his struggles for the last decade plus does not sound plausible at all to me, considering all of the other injuries that would have ended a lot of other golfers' careers. 

Wobbie said:

The Juggler said:

mrussel1 said:

The Juggler said:

tempo_n_groove said:

The Juggler said:

tempo_n_groove said:

The Juggler said:

tempo_n_groove said:

The Juggler said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Wobbie said:

Poncier said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Poncier said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Poncier said:

Wobbie said:

F Me In The Brain said:

tempo_n_groove said:

I'm glad no one is up in arms about Aikmens comment about taking off the dresses.

Football is sexist?  Not a shocker.  
I cannot stand Aikman pretty much forever.  (USC alum and 49ers fan....it is natural hate.  )

Troy is the man.

System QB.
Just hand the ball to Emmitt.

Yeah, because Irvin became a HOF receiver for handing it off to Smith...

You miss the point of my post, but Wob should get it assuming his old man memory is in tact.

I'm lost on this or did Wob call Aikman a system QB at some point?

Actually, it harkens back to Wob's insistence that Brady is merely an average "system" QB and that Aikman was a far superior QB to Brady.

with all the recent talk of “what’s wrong with brady?” I wonder if the elephant in the room might be his crumbling marriage. I guess that’s kind of off limits for the talking heads but, OMG, TB12 stands to lose some huge money. will jizzelle get half of his TV contract?

The Tiger Woods/Jeff Gordon syndrome.  When they lost their women they crumbled.  Gordon did come back though.  Tiger?  Not so much.

Back and knee injuries have been Tiger's problem the last 10 years, not his ex wife. That drama was temporary. 

When his wife left him he spiraled out of control.  He started getting hurt, DUI and so on.  Look at the timeline.  Golfer of the year blah blah blah up to 2009.
2010 divorce and ailments after.

Yeah but after that bullshit he became the number 1 player in the world again for a couple of years. Then the back and knee injuries started piling up but that happened like 4 years or so after the scandal. Injuries and father time are what has hindered Tiger.

Yes he did come back but again, when he lost his wife shit went south.  He didn't come back for 3 years. Even Gordon came back after a bit too.

Brady might be messed up from this and is too old to recover/bounce back?

Losing your lady takes a toll is what I am getting at.  I know there are more.  Anyone who dated Many Moore count, lol?  Or was that Jessica Simpson?  I forgot who was the kiss of death.

I think it is just a coincidence! How can you correlate a divorce with needing your back fused back together multiple times? That doesn't make any sense. All that stuff happened in 2009. Then he kept getting hurt in 2010 and 2011. Finally got healthy and won 8 times over the next two years and was the best in the world again. Then the injuries were nonstop for the next four years....but the divorce was way behind him by that point. 

Jessica Simpson was the one you are thinking of, I think. Didn't Romo date her?

Timeline shows he played like shit right after he got caught.  It seems as if the injuries were exasperated from that too.  When he was on top he was in another world.  That came crumbling down and he had to face reality.

The timeline you are referring to contain injuries completely unrelated to his scandal that started just months after the news broke. 
Linking a divorce to the downward spiral of an aging/injury prone athlete seems pretty ridiculous. The vast majority of professional athletes get divorced. 

At the same time, I think we all know that when personal lives are a mess, it bleeds into work life.  I see it all the time.  So it would stand to reason that a mess, public divorce for Tiger would have to affect his professional life, in some way.  Maybe he still played well, but if he had a stable home life, my guess is he would have played better. 

In the short term, probably. But to say that is the reason for his struggles for the last decade plus does not sound plausible at all to me, considering all of the other injuries that would have ended a lot of other golfers' careers. 

don’t forget….Elin nailed him in the back with a nine iron.

pjhawks said:

Wobbie said:

anyway….let’s talk about russell wilson’s $245M contract…..

Juggler was all in on the Eagles trading for Wilson too. Thank god we didn’t 

tempo_n_groove said:

pjhawks said:

Wobbie said:

anyway….let’s talk about russell wilson’s $245M contract…..

Juggler was all in on the Eagles trading for Wilson too. Thank god we didn’t 

I was half excited when we got Wilson.  But then I remembered the past and only 1 QB panned out after Elway so I knew we were doomed...

Hopefully he bounces back.  He was way too good to be this bad right now.

tempo_n_groove said:

Wobbie said:

anyway….let’s talk about russell wilson’s $245M contract…..

I was half excited when we got Wilson.  But then I remembered the past and only 1 QB panned out after Elway so I knew we were doomed...

Hopefully he bounces back.  He was way too good to be this bad right now.

Wobbie said:

angels AND broncos? you’re a glutton for punishment.

do you have a shitty NBA team you root for?

tempo_n_groove said:

Wobbie said:

angels AND broncos? you’re a glutton for punishment.

do you have a shitty NBA team you root for?

Hold it.  Broncos have 4 championships in my lifetime.  Halos I suffered through 86 but joyous in 02.

For basketball I follow Lebron but have been a Lakers fan.  Hockey I like the Isles.