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Remember when you declared his career just about over 8 years ago? hahahaWobbie said:
with all the recent talk of “what’s wrong with brady?” I wonder if the elephant in the room might be his crumbling marriage. I guess that’s kind of off limits for the talking heads but, OMG, TB12 stands to lose some huge money. will jizzelle get half of his TV contract?Poncier said:
Actually, it harkens back to Wob's insistence that Brady is merely an average "system" QB and that Aikman was a far superior QB to Brady.tempo_n_groove said:
I'm lost on this or did Wob call Aikman a system QB at some point?Poncier said:
You miss the point of my post, but Wob should get it assuming his old man memory is in tact.tempo_n_groove said:
Yeah, because Irvin became a HOF receiver for handing it off to Smith...Poncier said:
System QB.Wobbie said:F Me In The Brain said:
Football is sexist? Not a shocker.tempo_n_groove said:I'm glad no one is up in arms about Aikmens comment about taking off the dresses.
I cannot stand Aikman pretty much forever. (USC alum and 49ers fan....it is natural hate.
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Troy is the man.
Just hand the ball to Emmitt.www.myspace.com0 -
Back and knee injuries have been Tiger's problem the last 10 years, not his ex wife. That drama was temporary.tempo_n_groove said:
The Tiger Woods/Jeff Gordon syndrome. When they lost their women they crumbled. Gordon did come back though. Tiger? Not so much.Wobbie said:
with all the recent talk of “what’s wrong with brady?” I wonder if the elephant in the room might be his crumbling marriage. I guess that’s kind of off limits for the talking heads but, OMG, TB12 stands to lose some huge money. will jizzelle get half of his TV contract?Poncier said:
Actually, it harkens back to Wob's insistence that Brady is merely an average "system" QB and that Aikman was a far superior QB to Brady.tempo_n_groove said:
I'm lost on this or did Wob call Aikman a system QB at some point?Poncier said:
You miss the point of my post, but Wob should get it assuming his old man memory is in tact.tempo_n_groove said:
Yeah, because Irvin became a HOF receiver for handing it off to Smith...Poncier said:
System QB.Wobbie said:F Me In The Brain said:
Football is sexist? Not a shocker.tempo_n_groove said:I'm glad no one is up in arms about Aikmens comment about taking off the dresses.
I cannot stand Aikman pretty much forever. (USC alum and 49ers fan....it is natural hate.)
Troy is the man.
Just hand the ball to Emmitt.www.myspace.com0 -
When his wife left him he spiraled out of control. He started getting hurt, DUI and so on. Look at the timeline. Golfer of the year blah blah blah up to 2009.The Juggler said:
Back and knee injuries have been Tiger's problem the last 10 years, not his ex wife. That drama was temporary.tempo_n_groove said:
The Tiger Woods/Jeff Gordon syndrome. When they lost their women they crumbled. Gordon did come back though. Tiger? Not so much.Wobbie said:
with all the recent talk of “what’s wrong with brady?” I wonder if the elephant in the room might be his crumbling marriage. I guess that’s kind of off limits for the talking heads but, OMG, TB12 stands to lose some huge money. will jizzelle get half of his TV contract?Poncier said:
Actually, it harkens back to Wob's insistence that Brady is merely an average "system" QB and that Aikman was a far superior QB to Brady.tempo_n_groove said:
I'm lost on this or did Wob call Aikman a system QB at some point?Poncier said:
You miss the point of my post, but Wob should get it assuming his old man memory is in tact.tempo_n_groove said:
Yeah, because Irvin became a HOF receiver for handing it off to Smith...Poncier said:
System QB.Wobbie said:F Me In The Brain said:
Football is sexist? Not a shocker.tempo_n_groove said:I'm glad no one is up in arms about Aikmens comment about taking off the dresses.
I cannot stand Aikman pretty much forever. (USC alum and 49ers fan....it is natural hate.)
Troy is the man.
Just hand the ball to Emmitt.
2010 divorce and ailments after.0 -
Yeah but after that bullshit he became the number 1 player in the world again for a couple of years. Then the back and knee injuries started piling up but that happened like 4 years or so after the scandal. Injuries and father time are what has hindered Tiger.tempo_n_groove said:
When his wife left him he spiraled out of control. He started getting hurt, DUI and so on. Look at the timeline. Golfer of the year blah blah blah up to 2009.The Juggler said:
Back and knee injuries have been Tiger's problem the last 10 years, not his ex wife. That drama was temporary.tempo_n_groove said:
The Tiger Woods/Jeff Gordon syndrome. When they lost their women they crumbled. Gordon did come back though. Tiger? Not so much.Wobbie said:
with all the recent talk of “what’s wrong with brady?” I wonder if the elephant in the room might be his crumbling marriage. I guess that’s kind of off limits for the talking heads but, OMG, TB12 stands to lose some huge money. will jizzelle get half of his TV contract?Poncier said:
Actually, it harkens back to Wob's insistence that Brady is merely an average "system" QB and that Aikman was a far superior QB to Brady.tempo_n_groove said:
I'm lost on this or did Wob call Aikman a system QB at some point?Poncier said:
You miss the point of my post, but Wob should get it assuming his old man memory is in tact.tempo_n_groove said:
Yeah, because Irvin became a HOF receiver for handing it off to Smith...Poncier said:
System QB.Wobbie said:F Me In The Brain said:
Football is sexist? Not a shocker.tempo_n_groove said:I'm glad no one is up in arms about Aikmens comment about taking off the dresses.
I cannot stand Aikman pretty much forever. (USC alum and 49ers fan....it is natural hate.)
Troy is the man.
Just hand the ball to Emmitt.
2010 divorce and ailments after.
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Yes he did come back but again, when he lost his wife shit went south. He didn't come back for 3 years. Even Gordon came back after a bit too.The Juggler said:
Yeah but after that bullshit he became the number 1 player in the world again for a couple of years. Then the back and knee injuries started piling up but that happened like 4 years or so after the scandal. Injuries and father time are what has hindered Tiger.tempo_n_groove said:
When his wife left him he spiraled out of control. He started getting hurt, DUI and so on. Look at the timeline. Golfer of the year blah blah blah up to 2009.The Juggler said:
Back and knee injuries have been Tiger's problem the last 10 years, not his ex wife. That drama was temporary.tempo_n_groove said:
The Tiger Woods/Jeff Gordon syndrome. When they lost their women they crumbled. Gordon did come back though. Tiger? Not so much.Wobbie said:
with all the recent talk of “what’s wrong with brady?” I wonder if the elephant in the room might be his crumbling marriage. I guess that’s kind of off limits for the talking heads but, OMG, TB12 stands to lose some huge money. will jizzelle get half of his TV contract?Poncier said:
Actually, it harkens back to Wob's insistence that Brady is merely an average "system" QB and that Aikman was a far superior QB to Brady.tempo_n_groove said:
I'm lost on this or did Wob call Aikman a system QB at some point?Poncier said:
You miss the point of my post, but Wob should get it assuming his old man memory is in tact.tempo_n_groove said:
Yeah, because Irvin became a HOF receiver for handing it off to Smith...Poncier said:
System QB.Wobbie said:F Me In The Brain said:
Football is sexist? Not a shocker.tempo_n_groove said:I'm glad no one is up in arms about Aikmens comment about taking off the dresses.
I cannot stand Aikman pretty much forever. (USC alum and 49ers fan....it is natural hate.)
Troy is the man.
Just hand the ball to Emmitt.
2010 divorce and ailments after.
Brady might be messed up from this and is too old to recover/bounce back?
Losing your lady takes a toll is what I am getting at. I know there are more. Anyone who dated Many Moore count, lol? Or was that Jessica Simpson? I forgot who was the kiss of death.0 -
I never said that, poncierPoncier said:
Right, that does negate the entirety of his career.mickeyrat said:Poncier said:
Actually, it harkens back to Wob's insistence that Brady is merely an average "system" QB and that Aikman was a far superior QB to Brady.tempo_n_groove said:
I'm lost on this or did Wob call Aikman a system QB at some point?Poncier said:
You miss the point of my post, but Wob should get it assuming his old man memory is in tact.tempo_n_groove said:
Yeah, because Irvin became a HOF receiver for handing it off to Smith...Poncier said:
System QB.Wobbie said:F Me In The Brain said:
Football is sexist? Not a shocker.tempo_n_groove said:I'm glad no one is up in arms about Aikmens comment about taking off the dresses.
I cannot stand Aikman pretty much forever. (USC alum and 49ers fan....it is natural hate.)
Troy is the man.
Just hand the ball to Emmitt.
well Brady just got beat by a rookie starter and a journeyman qb in clean up .....
If I had known then what I know now...
Vegas 93, Vegas 98, Vegas 00 (10 year show), Vegas 03, Vegas 06
VIC 07
EV LA1 08
Seattle1 09, Seattle2 09, Salt Lake 09, LA4 09
Columbus 10
EV LA 11
Vancouver 11
Missoula 12
Portland 13, Spokane 13
St. Paul 14, Denver 14Philly I & II, 16Denver 22
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wishful thinking.The Juggler said:
Remember when you declared his career just about over 8 years ago? hahahaWobbie said:
with all the recent talk of “what’s wrong with brady?” I wonder if the elephant in the room might be his crumbling marriage. I guess that’s kind of off limits for the talking heads but, OMG, TB12 stands to lose some huge money. will jizzelle get half of his TV contract?Poncier said:
Actually, it harkens back to Wob's insistence that Brady is merely an average "system" QB and that Aikman was a far superior QB to Brady.tempo_n_groove said:
I'm lost on this or did Wob call Aikman a system QB at some point?Poncier said:
You miss the point of my post, but Wob should get it assuming his old man memory is in tact.tempo_n_groove said:
Yeah, because Irvin became a HOF receiver for handing it off to Smith...Poncier said:
System QB.Wobbie said:F Me In The Brain said:
Football is sexist? Not a shocker.tempo_n_groove said:I'm glad no one is up in arms about Aikmens comment about taking off the dresses.
I cannot stand Aikman pretty much forever. (USC alum and 49ers fan....it is natural hate.)
Troy is the man.
Just hand the ball to Emmitt.If I had known then what I know now...
Vegas 93, Vegas 98, Vegas 00 (10 year show), Vegas 03, Vegas 06
VIC 07
EV LA1 08
Seattle1 09, Seattle2 09, Salt Lake 09, LA4 09
Columbus 10
EV LA 11
Vancouver 11
Missoula 12
Portland 13, Spokane 13
St. Paul 14, Denver 14Philly I & II, 16Denver 22
Missoula 240 -
I think it is just a coincidence! How can you correlate a divorce with needing your back fused back together multiple times? That doesn't make any sense. All that stuff happened in 2009. Then he kept getting hurt in 2010 and 2011. Finally got healthy and won 8 times over the next two years and was the best in the world again. Then the injuries were nonstop for the next four years....but the divorce was way behind him by that point.tempo_n_groove said:
Yes he did come back but again, when he lost his wife shit went south. He didn't come back for 3 years. Even Gordon came back after a bit too.The Juggler said:
Yeah but after that bullshit he became the number 1 player in the world again for a couple of years. Then the back and knee injuries started piling up but that happened like 4 years or so after the scandal. Injuries and father time are what has hindered Tiger.tempo_n_groove said:
When his wife left him he spiraled out of control. He started getting hurt, DUI and so on. Look at the timeline. Golfer of the year blah blah blah up to 2009.The Juggler said:
Back and knee injuries have been Tiger's problem the last 10 years, not his ex wife. That drama was temporary.tempo_n_groove said:
The Tiger Woods/Jeff Gordon syndrome. When they lost their women they crumbled. Gordon did come back though. Tiger? Not so much.Wobbie said:
with all the recent talk of “what’s wrong with brady?” I wonder if the elephant in the room might be his crumbling marriage. I guess that’s kind of off limits for the talking heads but, OMG, TB12 stands to lose some huge money. will jizzelle get half of his TV contract?Poncier said:
Actually, it harkens back to Wob's insistence that Brady is merely an average "system" QB and that Aikman was a far superior QB to Brady.tempo_n_groove said:
I'm lost on this or did Wob call Aikman a system QB at some point?Poncier said:
You miss the point of my post, but Wob should get it assuming his old man memory is in tact.tempo_n_groove said:
Yeah, because Irvin became a HOF receiver for handing it off to Smith...Poncier said:
System QB.Wobbie said:F Me In The Brain said:
Football is sexist? Not a shocker.tempo_n_groove said:I'm glad no one is up in arms about Aikmens comment about taking off the dresses.
I cannot stand Aikman pretty much forever. (USC alum and 49ers fan....it is natural hate.)
Troy is the man.
Just hand the ball to Emmitt.
2010 divorce and ailments after.
Brady might be messed up from this and is too old to recover/bounce back?
Losing your lady takes a toll is what I am getting at. I know there are more. Anyone who dated Many Moore count, lol? Or was that Jessica Simpson? I forgot who was the kiss of death.
Jessica Simpson was the one you are thinking of, I think. Didn't Romo date her?Post edited by The Juggler onwww.myspace.com0 -
He did. That would be a fun few months. She was a knock out.The Juggler said:
I think it is just a coincidence! How can you correlate a divorce with needing your back fused back together multiple times? That doesn't make any sense. All that stuff happened in 2009. Then he kept getting hurt in 2010 and 2011. Finally got healthy and won 8 times over the next two years and was the best in the world again. Then the injuries were nonstop for the next four years....but the divorce was way behind him by that point.tempo_n_groove said:
Yes he did come back but again, when he lost his wife shit went south. He didn't come back for 3 years. Even Gordon came back after a bit too.The Juggler said:
Yeah but after that bullshit he became the number 1 player in the world again for a couple of years. Then the back and knee injuries started piling up but that happened like 4 years or so after the scandal. Injuries and father time are what has hindered Tiger.tempo_n_groove said:
When his wife left him he spiraled out of control. He started getting hurt, DUI and so on. Look at the timeline. Golfer of the year blah blah blah up to 2009.The Juggler said:
Back and knee injuries have been Tiger's problem the last 10 years, not his ex wife. That drama was temporary.tempo_n_groove said:
The Tiger Woods/Jeff Gordon syndrome. When they lost their women they crumbled. Gordon did come back though. Tiger? Not so much.Wobbie said:
with all the recent talk of “what’s wrong with brady?” I wonder if the elephant in the room might be his crumbling marriage. I guess that’s kind of off limits for the talking heads but, OMG, TB12 stands to lose some huge money. will jizzelle get half of his TV contract?Poncier said:
Actually, it harkens back to Wob's insistence that Brady is merely an average "system" QB and that Aikman was a far superior QB to Brady.tempo_n_groove said:
I'm lost on this or did Wob call Aikman a system QB at some point?Poncier said:
You miss the point of my post, but Wob should get it assuming his old man memory is in tact.tempo_n_groove said:
Yeah, because Irvin became a HOF receiver for handing it off to Smith...Poncier said:
System QB.Wobbie said:F Me In The Brain said:
Football is sexist? Not a shocker.tempo_n_groove said:I'm glad no one is up in arms about Aikmens comment about taking off the dresses.
I cannot stand Aikman pretty much forever. (USC alum and 49ers fan....it is natural hate.)
Troy is the man.
Just hand the ball to Emmitt.
2010 divorce and ailments after.
Brady might be messed up from this and is too old to recover/bounce back?
Losing your lady takes a toll is what I am getting at. I know there are more. Anyone who dated Many Moore count, lol? Or was that Jessica Simpson? I forgot who was the kiss of death.
Jessica Simpson was the one you are thinking of, I think. Didn't Romo date her?0 -
She was worth way more than he was up to a few years ago. I don't know about now - guessing they don't count that stupid fox deal that doesn't start until he is done playingWobbie said:
with all the recent talk of “what’s wrong with brady?” I wonder if the elephant in the room might be his crumbling marriage. I guess that’s kind of off limits for the talking heads but, OMG, TB12 stands to lose some huge money. will jizzelle get half of his TV contract?Poncier said:
Actually, it harkens back to Wob's insistence that Brady is merely an average "system" QB and that Aikman was a far superior QB to Brady.tempo_n_groove said:
I'm lost on this or did Wob call Aikman a system QB at some point?Poncier said:
You miss the point of my post, but Wob should get it assuming his old man memory is in tact.tempo_n_groove said:
Yeah, because Irvin became a HOF receiver for handing it off to Smith...Poncier said:
System QB.Wobbie said:F Me In The Brain said:
Football is sexist? Not a shocker.tempo_n_groove said:I'm glad no one is up in arms about Aikmens comment about taking off the dresses.
I cannot stand Aikman pretty much forever. (USC alum and 49ers fan....it is natural hate.)
Troy is the man.
Just hand the ball to Emmitt.
The love he receives is the love that is saved0 -
I was responding to mickey.Wobbie said:
I never said that, poncierPoncier said:
Right, that does negate the entirety of his career.mickeyrat said:Poncier said:
Actually, it harkens back to Wob's insistence that Brady is merely an average "system" QB and that Aikman was a far superior QB to Brady.tempo_n_groove said:
I'm lost on this or did Wob call Aikman a system QB at some point?Poncier said:
You miss the point of my post, but Wob should get it assuming his old man memory is in tact.tempo_n_groove said:
Yeah, because Irvin became a HOF receiver for handing it off to Smith...Poncier said:
System QB.Wobbie said:F Me In The Brain said:
Football is sexist? Not a shocker.tempo_n_groove said:I'm glad no one is up in arms about Aikmens comment about taking off the dresses.
I cannot stand Aikman pretty much forever. (USC alum and 49ers fan....it is natural hate.)
Troy is the man.
Just hand the ball to Emmitt.
well Brady just got beat by a rookie starter and a journeyman qb in clean up .....This weekend we rock Portland0 -
His TB12 business has to be worth a ton.F Me In The Brain said:
She was worth way more than he was up to a few years ago. I don't know about now - guessing they don't count that stupid fox deal that doesn't start until he is done playingWobbie said:
with all the recent talk of “what’s wrong with brady?” I wonder if the elephant in the room might be his crumbling marriage. I guess that’s kind of off limits for the talking heads but, OMG, TB12 stands to lose some huge money. will jizzelle get half of his TV contract?Poncier said:
Actually, it harkens back to Wob's insistence that Brady is merely an average "system" QB and that Aikman was a far superior QB to Brady.tempo_n_groove said:
I'm lost on this or did Wob call Aikman a system QB at some point?Poncier said:
You miss the point of my post, but Wob should get it assuming his old man memory is in tact.tempo_n_groove said:
Yeah, because Irvin became a HOF receiver for handing it off to Smith...Poncier said:
System QB.Wobbie said:F Me In The Brain said:
Football is sexist? Not a shocker.tempo_n_groove said:I'm glad no one is up in arms about Aikmens comment about taking off the dresses.
I cannot stand Aikman pretty much forever. (USC alum and 49ers fan....it is natural hate.)
Troy is the man.
Just hand the ball to Emmitt.0 -
Timeline shows he played like shit right after he got caught. It seems as if the injuries were exasperated from that too. When he was on top he was in another world. That came crumbling down and he had to face reality.The Juggler said:
I think it is just a coincidence! How can you correlate a divorce with needing your back fused back together multiple times? That doesn't make any sense. All that stuff happened in 2009. Then he kept getting hurt in 2010 and 2011. Finally got healthy and won 8 times over the next two years and was the best in the world again. Then the injuries were nonstop for the next four years....but the divorce was way behind him by that point.tempo_n_groove said:
Yes he did come back but again, when he lost his wife shit went south. He didn't come back for 3 years. Even Gordon came back after a bit too.The Juggler said:
Yeah but after that bullshit he became the number 1 player in the world again for a couple of years. Then the back and knee injuries started piling up but that happened like 4 years or so after the scandal. Injuries and father time are what has hindered Tiger.tempo_n_groove said:
When his wife left him he spiraled out of control. He started getting hurt, DUI and so on. Look at the timeline. Golfer of the year blah blah blah up to 2009.The Juggler said:
Back and knee injuries have been Tiger's problem the last 10 years, not his ex wife. That drama was temporary.tempo_n_groove said:
The Tiger Woods/Jeff Gordon syndrome. When they lost their women they crumbled. Gordon did come back though. Tiger? Not so much.Wobbie said:
with all the recent talk of “what’s wrong with brady?” I wonder if the elephant in the room might be his crumbling marriage. I guess that’s kind of off limits for the talking heads but, OMG, TB12 stands to lose some huge money. will jizzelle get half of his TV contract?Poncier said:
Actually, it harkens back to Wob's insistence that Brady is merely an average "system" QB and that Aikman was a far superior QB to Brady.tempo_n_groove said:
I'm lost on this or did Wob call Aikman a system QB at some point?Poncier said:
You miss the point of my post, but Wob should get it assuming his old man memory is in tact.tempo_n_groove said:
Yeah, because Irvin became a HOF receiver for handing it off to Smith...Poncier said:
System QB.Wobbie said:F Me In The Brain said:
Football is sexist? Not a shocker.tempo_n_groove said:I'm glad no one is up in arms about Aikmens comment about taking off the dresses.
I cannot stand Aikman pretty much forever. (USC alum and 49ers fan....it is natural hate.)
Troy is the man.
Just hand the ball to Emmitt.
2010 divorce and ailments after.
Brady might be messed up from this and is too old to recover/bounce back?
Losing your lady takes a toll is what I am getting at. I know there are more. Anyone who dated Many Moore count, lol? Or was that Jessica Simpson? I forgot who was the kiss of death.
Jessica Simpson was the one you are thinking of, I think. Didn't Romo date her?0 -
The timeline you are referring to contain injuries completely unrelated to his scandal that started just months after the news broke.tempo_n_groove said:
Timeline shows he played like shit right after he got caught. It seems as if the injuries were exasperated from that too. When he was on top he was in another world. That came crumbling down and he had to face reality.The Juggler said:
I think it is just a coincidence! How can you correlate a divorce with needing your back fused back together multiple times? That doesn't make any sense. All that stuff happened in 2009. Then he kept getting hurt in 2010 and 2011. Finally got healthy and won 8 times over the next two years and was the best in the world again. Then the injuries were nonstop for the next four years....but the divorce was way behind him by that point.tempo_n_groove said:
Yes he did come back but again, when he lost his wife shit went south. He didn't come back for 3 years. Even Gordon came back after a bit too.The Juggler said:
Yeah but after that bullshit he became the number 1 player in the world again for a couple of years. Then the back and knee injuries started piling up but that happened like 4 years or so after the scandal. Injuries and father time are what has hindered Tiger.tempo_n_groove said:
When his wife left him he spiraled out of control. He started getting hurt, DUI and so on. Look at the timeline. Golfer of the year blah blah blah up to 2009.The Juggler said:
Back and knee injuries have been Tiger's problem the last 10 years, not his ex wife. That drama was temporary.tempo_n_groove said:
The Tiger Woods/Jeff Gordon syndrome. When they lost their women they crumbled. Gordon did come back though. Tiger? Not so much.Wobbie said:
with all the recent talk of “what’s wrong with brady?” I wonder if the elephant in the room might be his crumbling marriage. I guess that’s kind of off limits for the talking heads but, OMG, TB12 stands to lose some huge money. will jizzelle get half of his TV contract?Poncier said:
Actually, it harkens back to Wob's insistence that Brady is merely an average "system" QB and that Aikman was a far superior QB to Brady.tempo_n_groove said:
I'm lost on this or did Wob call Aikman a system QB at some point?Poncier said:
You miss the point of my post, but Wob should get it assuming his old man memory is in tact.tempo_n_groove said:
Yeah, because Irvin became a HOF receiver for handing it off to Smith...Poncier said:
System QB.Wobbie said:F Me In The Brain said:
Football is sexist? Not a shocker.tempo_n_groove said:I'm glad no one is up in arms about Aikmens comment about taking off the dresses.
I cannot stand Aikman pretty much forever. (USC alum and 49ers fan....it is natural hate.)
Troy is the man.
Just hand the ball to Emmitt.
2010 divorce and ailments after.
Brady might be messed up from this and is too old to recover/bounce back?
Losing your lady takes a toll is what I am getting at. I know there are more. Anyone who dated Many Moore count, lol? Or was that Jessica Simpson? I forgot who was the kiss of death.
Jessica Simpson was the one you are thinking of, I think. Didn't Romo date her?
Linking a divorce to the downward spiral of an aging/injury prone athlete seems pretty ridiculous. The vast majority of professional athletes get divorced.www.myspace.com0 -
At the same time, I think we all know that when personal lives are a mess, it bleeds into work life. I see it all the time. So it would stand to reason that a mess, public divorce for Tiger would have to affect his professional life, in some way. Maybe he still played well, but if he had a stable home life, my guess is he would have played better.The Juggler said:
The timeline you are referring to contain injuries completely unrelated to his scandal that started just months after the news broke.tempo_n_groove said:
Timeline shows he played like shit right after he got caught. It seems as if the injuries were exasperated from that too. When he was on top he was in another world. That came crumbling down and he had to face reality.The Juggler said:
I think it is just a coincidence! How can you correlate a divorce with needing your back fused back together multiple times? That doesn't make any sense. All that stuff happened in 2009. Then he kept getting hurt in 2010 and 2011. Finally got healthy and won 8 times over the next two years and was the best in the world again. Then the injuries were nonstop for the next four years....but the divorce was way behind him by that point.tempo_n_groove said:
Yes he did come back but again, when he lost his wife shit went south. He didn't come back for 3 years. Even Gordon came back after a bit too.The Juggler said:
Yeah but after that bullshit he became the number 1 player in the world again for a couple of years. Then the back and knee injuries started piling up but that happened like 4 years or so after the scandal. Injuries and father time are what has hindered Tiger.tempo_n_groove said:
When his wife left him he spiraled out of control. He started getting hurt, DUI and so on. Look at the timeline. Golfer of the year blah blah blah up to 2009.The Juggler said:
Back and knee injuries have been Tiger's problem the last 10 years, not his ex wife. That drama was temporary.tempo_n_groove said:
The Tiger Woods/Jeff Gordon syndrome. When they lost their women they crumbled. Gordon did come back though. Tiger? Not so much.Wobbie said:
with all the recent talk of “what’s wrong with brady?” I wonder if the elephant in the room might be his crumbling marriage. I guess that’s kind of off limits for the talking heads but, OMG, TB12 stands to lose some huge money. will jizzelle get half of his TV contract?Poncier said:
Actually, it harkens back to Wob's insistence that Brady is merely an average "system" QB and that Aikman was a far superior QB to Brady.tempo_n_groove said:
I'm lost on this or did Wob call Aikman a system QB at some point?Poncier said:
You miss the point of my post, but Wob should get it assuming his old man memory is in tact.tempo_n_groove said:
Yeah, because Irvin became a HOF receiver for handing it off to Smith...Poncier said:
System QB.Wobbie said:F Me In The Brain said:
Football is sexist? Not a shocker.tempo_n_groove said:I'm glad no one is up in arms about Aikmens comment about taking off the dresses.
I cannot stand Aikman pretty much forever. (USC alum and 49ers fan....it is natural hate.)
Troy is the man.
Just hand the ball to Emmitt.
2010 divorce and ailments after.
Brady might be messed up from this and is too old to recover/bounce back?
Losing your lady takes a toll is what I am getting at. I know there are more. Anyone who dated Many Moore count, lol? Or was that Jessica Simpson? I forgot who was the kiss of death.
Jessica Simpson was the one you are thinking of, I think. Didn't Romo date her?
Linking a divorce to the downward spiral of an aging/injury prone athlete seems pretty ridiculous. The vast majority of professional athletes get divorced.0 -
In the short term, probably. But to say that is the reason for his struggles for the last decade plus does not sound plausible at all to me, considering all of the other injuries that would have ended a lot of other golfers' careers.mrussel1 said:
At the same time, I think we all know that when personal lives are a mess, it bleeds into work life. I see it all the time. So it would stand to reason that a mess, public divorce for Tiger would have to affect his professional life, in some way. Maybe he still played well, but if he had a stable home life, my guess is he would have played better.The Juggler said:
The timeline you are referring to contain injuries completely unrelated to his scandal that started just months after the news broke.tempo_n_groove said:
Timeline shows he played like shit right after he got caught. It seems as if the injuries were exasperated from that too. When he was on top he was in another world. That came crumbling down and he had to face reality.The Juggler said:
I think it is just a coincidence! How can you correlate a divorce with needing your back fused back together multiple times? That doesn't make any sense. All that stuff happened in 2009. Then he kept getting hurt in 2010 and 2011. Finally got healthy and won 8 times over the next two years and was the best in the world again. Then the injuries were nonstop for the next four years....but the divorce was way behind him by that point.tempo_n_groove said:
Yes he did come back but again, when he lost his wife shit went south. He didn't come back for 3 years. Even Gordon came back after a bit too.The Juggler said:
Yeah but after that bullshit he became the number 1 player in the world again for a couple of years. Then the back and knee injuries started piling up but that happened like 4 years or so after the scandal. Injuries and father time are what has hindered Tiger.tempo_n_groove said:
When his wife left him he spiraled out of control. He started getting hurt, DUI and so on. Look at the timeline. Golfer of the year blah blah blah up to 2009.The Juggler said:
Back and knee injuries have been Tiger's problem the last 10 years, not his ex wife. That drama was temporary.tempo_n_groove said:
The Tiger Woods/Jeff Gordon syndrome. When they lost their women they crumbled. Gordon did come back though. Tiger? Not so much.Wobbie said:
with all the recent talk of “what’s wrong with brady?” I wonder if the elephant in the room might be his crumbling marriage. I guess that’s kind of off limits for the talking heads but, OMG, TB12 stands to lose some huge money. will jizzelle get half of his TV contract?Poncier said:
Actually, it harkens back to Wob's insistence that Brady is merely an average "system" QB and that Aikman was a far superior QB to Brady.tempo_n_groove said:
I'm lost on this or did Wob call Aikman a system QB at some point?Poncier said:
You miss the point of my post, but Wob should get it assuming his old man memory is in tact.tempo_n_groove said:
Yeah, because Irvin became a HOF receiver for handing it off to Smith...Poncier said:
System QB.Wobbie said:F Me In The Brain said:
Football is sexist? Not a shocker.tempo_n_groove said:I'm glad no one is up in arms about Aikmens comment about taking off the dresses.
I cannot stand Aikman pretty much forever. (USC alum and 49ers fan....it is natural hate.)
Troy is the man.
Just hand the ball to Emmitt.
2010 divorce and ailments after.
Brady might be messed up from this and is too old to recover/bounce back?
Losing your lady takes a toll is what I am getting at. I know there are more. Anyone who dated Many Moore count, lol? Or was that Jessica Simpson? I forgot who was the kiss of death.
Jessica Simpson was the one you are thinking of, I think. Didn't Romo date her?
Linking a divorce to the downward spiral of an aging/injury prone athlete seems pretty ridiculous. The vast majority of professional athletes get divorced.www.myspace.com0 -
They do and some are an absolute mess when it does happen.The Juggler said:
The timeline you are referring to contain injuries completely unrelated to his scandal that started just months after the news broke.tempo_n_groove said:
Timeline shows he played like shit right after he got caught. It seems as if the injuries were exasperated from that too. When he was on top he was in another world. That came crumbling down and he had to face reality.The Juggler said:
I think it is just a coincidence! How can you correlate a divorce with needing your back fused back together multiple times? That doesn't make any sense. All that stuff happened in 2009. Then he kept getting hurt in 2010 and 2011. Finally got healthy and won 8 times over the next two years and was the best in the world again. Then the injuries were nonstop for the next four years....but the divorce was way behind him by that point.tempo_n_groove said:
Yes he did come back but again, when he lost his wife shit went south. He didn't come back for 3 years. Even Gordon came back after a bit too.The Juggler said:
Yeah but after that bullshit he became the number 1 player in the world again for a couple of years. Then the back and knee injuries started piling up but that happened like 4 years or so after the scandal. Injuries and father time are what has hindered Tiger.tempo_n_groove said:
When his wife left him he spiraled out of control. He started getting hurt, DUI and so on. Look at the timeline. Golfer of the year blah blah blah up to 2009.The Juggler said:
Back and knee injuries have been Tiger's problem the last 10 years, not his ex wife. That drama was temporary.tempo_n_groove said:
The Tiger Woods/Jeff Gordon syndrome. When they lost their women they crumbled. Gordon did come back though. Tiger? Not so much.Wobbie said:
with all the recent talk of “what’s wrong with brady?” I wonder if the elephant in the room might be his crumbling marriage. I guess that’s kind of off limits for the talking heads but, OMG, TB12 stands to lose some huge money. will jizzelle get half of his TV contract?Poncier said:
Actually, it harkens back to Wob's insistence that Brady is merely an average "system" QB and that Aikman was a far superior QB to Brady.tempo_n_groove said:
I'm lost on this or did Wob call Aikman a system QB at some point?Poncier said:
You miss the point of my post, but Wob should get it assuming his old man memory is in tact.tempo_n_groove said:
Yeah, because Irvin became a HOF receiver for handing it off to Smith...Poncier said:
System QB.Wobbie said:F Me In The Brain said:
Football is sexist? Not a shocker.tempo_n_groove said:I'm glad no one is up in arms about Aikmens comment about taking off the dresses.
I cannot stand Aikman pretty much forever. (USC alum and 49ers fan....it is natural hate.)
Troy is the man.
Just hand the ball to Emmitt.
2010 divorce and ailments after.
Brady might be messed up from this and is too old to recover/bounce back?
Losing your lady takes a toll is what I am getting at. I know there are more. Anyone who dated Many Moore count, lol? Or was that Jessica Simpson? I forgot who was the kiss of death.
Jessica Simpson was the one you are thinking of, I think. Didn't Romo date her?
Linking a divorce to the downward spiral of an aging/injury prone athlete seems pretty ridiculous. The vast majority of professional athletes get divorced.
Kardashians seem to be excellent at this, lol.0 -
Decade? I said Tiger came back but not so much. He had that reprieve in 2013 and injuries prevailed after that.The Juggler said:
In the short term, probably. But to say that is the reason for his struggles for the last decade plus does not sound plausible at all to me, considering all of the other injuries that would have ended a lot of other golfers' careers.mrussel1 said:
At the same time, I think we all know that when personal lives are a mess, it bleeds into work life. I see it all the time. So it would stand to reason that a mess, public divorce for Tiger would have to affect his professional life, in some way. Maybe he still played well, but if he had a stable home life, my guess is he would have played better.The Juggler said:
The timeline you are referring to contain injuries completely unrelated to his scandal that started just months after the news broke.tempo_n_groove said:
Timeline shows he played like shit right after he got caught. It seems as if the injuries were exasperated from that too. When he was on top he was in another world. That came crumbling down and he had to face reality.The Juggler said:
I think it is just a coincidence! How can you correlate a divorce with needing your back fused back together multiple times? That doesn't make any sense. All that stuff happened in 2009. Then he kept getting hurt in 2010 and 2011. Finally got healthy and won 8 times over the next two years and was the best in the world again. Then the injuries were nonstop for the next four years....but the divorce was way behind him by that point.tempo_n_groove said:
Yes he did come back but again, when he lost his wife shit went south. He didn't come back for 3 years. Even Gordon came back after a bit too.The Juggler said:
Yeah but after that bullshit he became the number 1 player in the world again for a couple of years. Then the back and knee injuries started piling up but that happened like 4 years or so after the scandal. Injuries and father time are what has hindered Tiger.tempo_n_groove said:
When his wife left him he spiraled out of control. He started getting hurt, DUI and so on. Look at the timeline. Golfer of the year blah blah blah up to 2009.The Juggler said:
Back and knee injuries have been Tiger's problem the last 10 years, not his ex wife. That drama was temporary.tempo_n_groove said:
The Tiger Woods/Jeff Gordon syndrome. When they lost their women they crumbled. Gordon did come back though. Tiger? Not so much.Wobbie said:
with all the recent talk of “what’s wrong with brady?” I wonder if the elephant in the room might be his crumbling marriage. I guess that’s kind of off limits for the talking heads but, OMG, TB12 stands to lose some huge money. will jizzelle get half of his TV contract?Poncier said:
Actually, it harkens back to Wob's insistence that Brady is merely an average "system" QB and that Aikman was a far superior QB to Brady.tempo_n_groove said:
I'm lost on this or did Wob call Aikman a system QB at some point?Poncier said:
You miss the point of my post, but Wob should get it assuming his old man memory is in tact.tempo_n_groove said:
Yeah, because Irvin became a HOF receiver for handing it off to Smith...Poncier said:
System QB.Wobbie said:F Me In The Brain said:
Football is sexist? Not a shocker.tempo_n_groove said:I'm glad no one is up in arms about Aikmens comment about taking off the dresses.
I cannot stand Aikman pretty much forever. (USC alum and 49ers fan....it is natural hate.)
Troy is the man.
Just hand the ball to Emmitt.
2010 divorce and ailments after.
Brady might be messed up from this and is too old to recover/bounce back?
Losing your lady takes a toll is what I am getting at. I know there are more. Anyone who dated Many Moore count, lol? Or was that Jessica Simpson? I forgot who was the kiss of death.
Jessica Simpson was the one you are thinking of, I think. Didn't Romo date her?
Linking a divorce to the downward spiral of an aging/injury prone athlete seems pretty ridiculous. The vast majority of professional athletes get divorced.
I should have said he had a downfall because of his woman, it wasn't a decades worth though.0 -
Your original quote said his career crumbled and he never really came back...insinuating that it was due to the divorce and not older age/debilitating injuries.tempo_n_groove said:
Decade? I said Tiger came back but not so much. He had that reprieve in 2013 and injuries prevailed after that.The Juggler said:
In the short term, probably. But to say that is the reason for his struggles for the last decade plus does not sound plausible at all to me, considering all of the other injuries that would have ended a lot of other golfers' careers.mrussel1 said:
At the same time, I think we all know that when personal lives are a mess, it bleeds into work life. I see it all the time. So it would stand to reason that a mess, public divorce for Tiger would have to affect his professional life, in some way. Maybe he still played well, but if he had a stable home life, my guess is he would have played better.The Juggler said:
The timeline you are referring to contain injuries completely unrelated to his scandal that started just months after the news broke.tempo_n_groove said:
Timeline shows he played like shit right after he got caught. It seems as if the injuries were exasperated from that too. When he was on top he was in another world. That came crumbling down and he had to face reality.The Juggler said:
I think it is just a coincidence! How can you correlate a divorce with needing your back fused back together multiple times? That doesn't make any sense. All that stuff happened in 2009. Then he kept getting hurt in 2010 and 2011. Finally got healthy and won 8 times over the next two years and was the best in the world again. Then the injuries were nonstop for the next four years....but the divorce was way behind him by that point.tempo_n_groove said:
Yes he did come back but again, when he lost his wife shit went south. He didn't come back for 3 years. Even Gordon came back after a bit too.The Juggler said:
Yeah but after that bullshit he became the number 1 player in the world again for a couple of years. Then the back and knee injuries started piling up but that happened like 4 years or so after the scandal. Injuries and father time are what has hindered Tiger.tempo_n_groove said:
When his wife left him he spiraled out of control. He started getting hurt, DUI and so on. Look at the timeline. Golfer of the year blah blah blah up to 2009.The Juggler said:
Back and knee injuries have been Tiger's problem the last 10 years, not his ex wife. That drama was temporary.tempo_n_groove said:
The Tiger Woods/Jeff Gordon syndrome. When they lost their women they crumbled. Gordon did come back though. Tiger? Not so much.Wobbie said:
with all the recent talk of “what’s wrong with brady?” I wonder if the elephant in the room might be his crumbling marriage. I guess that’s kind of off limits for the talking heads but, OMG, TB12 stands to lose some huge money. will jizzelle get half of his TV contract?Poncier said:
Actually, it harkens back to Wob's insistence that Brady is merely an average "system" QB and that Aikman was a far superior QB to Brady.tempo_n_groove said:
I'm lost on this or did Wob call Aikman a system QB at some point?Poncier said:
You miss the point of my post, but Wob should get it assuming his old man memory is in tact.tempo_n_groove said:
Yeah, because Irvin became a HOF receiver for handing it off to Smith...Poncier said:
System QB.Wobbie said:F Me In The Brain said:
Football is sexist? Not a shocker.tempo_n_groove said:I'm glad no one is up in arms about Aikmens comment about taking off the dresses.
I cannot stand Aikman pretty much forever. (USC alum and 49ers fan....it is natural hate.)
Troy is the man.
Just hand the ball to Emmitt.
2010 divorce and ailments after.
Brady might be messed up from this and is too old to recover/bounce back?
Losing your lady takes a toll is what I am getting at. I know there are more. Anyone who dated Many Moore count, lol? Or was that Jessica Simpson? I forgot who was the kiss of death.
Jessica Simpson was the one you are thinking of, I think. Didn't Romo date her?
Linking a divorce to the downward spiral of an aging/injury prone athlete seems pretty ridiculous. The vast majority of professional athletes get divorced.
I should have said he had a downfall because of his woman, it wasn't a decades worth though.
His injuries actually started in 2008, before the divorce, which is more evidence that this is more a coincidence than anything else.www.myspace.com0 -
Yep yep. I didn't finish my thought in my head. Got it.The Juggler said:
Your original quote said his career crumbled and he never really came back...insinuating that it was due to the divorce and not older age/debilitating injuries.tempo_n_groove said:
Decade? I said Tiger came back but not so much. He had that reprieve in 2013 and injuries prevailed after that.The Juggler said:
In the short term, probably. But to say that is the reason for his struggles for the last decade plus does not sound plausible at all to me, considering all of the other injuries that would have ended a lot of other golfers' careers.mrussel1 said:
At the same time, I think we all know that when personal lives are a mess, it bleeds into work life. I see it all the time. So it would stand to reason that a mess, public divorce for Tiger would have to affect his professional life, in some way. Maybe he still played well, but if he had a stable home life, my guess is he would have played better.The Juggler said:
The timeline you are referring to contain injuries completely unrelated to his scandal that started just months after the news broke.tempo_n_groove said:
Timeline shows he played like shit right after he got caught. It seems as if the injuries were exasperated from that too. When he was on top he was in another world. That came crumbling down and he had to face reality.The Juggler said:
I think it is just a coincidence! How can you correlate a divorce with needing your back fused back together multiple times? That doesn't make any sense. All that stuff happened in 2009. Then he kept getting hurt in 2010 and 2011. Finally got healthy and won 8 times over the next two years and was the best in the world again. Then the injuries were nonstop for the next four years....but the divorce was way behind him by that point.tempo_n_groove said:
Yes he did come back but again, when he lost his wife shit went south. He didn't come back for 3 years. Even Gordon came back after a bit too.The Juggler said:
Yeah but after that bullshit he became the number 1 player in the world again for a couple of years. Then the back and knee injuries started piling up but that happened like 4 years or so after the scandal. Injuries and father time are what has hindered Tiger.tempo_n_groove said:
When his wife left him he spiraled out of control. He started getting hurt, DUI and so on. Look at the timeline. Golfer of the year blah blah blah up to 2009.The Juggler said:
Back and knee injuries have been Tiger's problem the last 10 years, not his ex wife. That drama was temporary.tempo_n_groove said:
The Tiger Woods/Jeff Gordon syndrome. When they lost their women they crumbled. Gordon did come back though. Tiger? Not so much.Wobbie said:
with all the recent talk of “what’s wrong with brady?” I wonder if the elephant in the room might be his crumbling marriage. I guess that’s kind of off limits for the talking heads but, OMG, TB12 stands to lose some huge money. will jizzelle get half of his TV contract?Poncier said:
Actually, it harkens back to Wob's insistence that Brady is merely an average "system" QB and that Aikman was a far superior QB to Brady.tempo_n_groove said:
I'm lost on this or did Wob call Aikman a system QB at some point?Poncier said:
You miss the point of my post, but Wob should get it assuming his old man memory is in tact.tempo_n_groove said:
Yeah, because Irvin became a HOF receiver for handing it off to Smith...Poncier said:
System QB.Wobbie said:F Me In The Brain said:
Football is sexist? Not a shocker.tempo_n_groove said:I'm glad no one is up in arms about Aikmens comment about taking off the dresses.
I cannot stand Aikman pretty much forever. (USC alum and 49ers fan....it is natural hate.)
Troy is the man.
Just hand the ball to Emmitt.
2010 divorce and ailments after.
Brady might be messed up from this and is too old to recover/bounce back?
Losing your lady takes a toll is what I am getting at. I know there are more. Anyone who dated Many Moore count, lol? Or was that Jessica Simpson? I forgot who was the kiss of death.
Jessica Simpson was the one you are thinking of, I think. Didn't Romo date her?
Linking a divorce to the downward spiral of an aging/injury prone athlete seems pretty ridiculous. The vast majority of professional athletes get divorced.
I should have said he had a downfall because of his woman, it wasn't a decades worth though.
His injuries actually started in 2008, before the divorce, which is more evidence that this is more a coincidence than anything else.
Well he still one everything in 2009 too. Again like I followed up on, I believe his injuries were exacerbated from the divorce. It's my opinion.
At least you didn't discount double check Gordon or most likely don't give a shit about NASCAR, lol. Gordon couldn't do anything right for a while there...0
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