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  • And Jones was live broadcasting while the verdict was being read....mocking the amounts.


    He doesn't care at this point, I mean would you?  The amount is absurd and he needs to pay them somehow.

    His best bet is to move and not come back.
  • mickeyrat
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    And Jones was live broadcasting while the verdict was being read....mocking the amounts.


    He doesn't care at this point, I mean would you?  The amount is absurd and he needs to pay them somehow.

    His best bet is to move and not come back.

    mocking proceedings,  asking for money, then talking appeal. 
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  • HughFreakingDillon
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    these absurd dollar amounts...how does the plaintiff collect?
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  • mickeyrat
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    these absurd dollar amounts...how does the plaintiff collect?

    plaintiffs, plural. 8 families and an FBI agent.  total is shocking but split individually not so shocking.  Only amount I saw was 90 mil for the agent. how the rest breaks down , I don't know or haven't seen reporting on yet.
    as to how he pays? after whatever amount the appeal sets, he will pass the basket and find some douche way to market his "products" as a push back against the "infringement of free speech". Which is laughable, the government has done nothing to shut him up. folks with that mindset seem to think speech is consequence-free. its not. this juries judgement makes that abundantly clear.

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  • HughFreakingDillon
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    mickeyrat said:
    these absurd dollar amounts...how does the plaintiff collect?

    plaintiffs, plural. 8 families and an FBI agent.  total is shocking but split individually not so shocking.  Only amount I saw was 90 mil for the agent. how the rest breaks down , I don't know or haven't seen reporting on yet.
    as to how he pays? after whatever amount the appeal sets, he will pass the basket and find some douche way to market his "products" as a push back against the "infringement of free speech". Which is laughable, the government has done nothing to shut him up. folks with that mindset seem to think speech is consequence-free. its not. this juries judgement makes that abundantly clear.

    yes, I know in this situation it's plural. I was speaking generally...if the defendant isn't a millionaire, how does a person collect a civil suit worth millions?

    But even he, he's not a billionaire, so how does it work? I imagine they get a mere pittance of the actual total settlement. 
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  • Every dime he’s earned since he was served with notice and everything he’s earning now, regardless of where he’s squirreled it away is subject to seizure by what eventually be a bankruptcy court and held in trust. CT has very robust and affirmed civil liability and bankruptcy laws and procedures. He’s fucked. So he’ll be a martyr to the cause. He’ll be in prison soon.
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  • OnWis97
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    Jones's followers are going to send him a ton of money and guess what...the plaintiffs are not going to see a penny of the settlement (or at best, a very small fraction). Jones is going to make out like a bandit on this.

    The hope, I suppose, is that this serves as a deterrent for others engaging in similar behaviors. Maybe it will. I don't think this was ever about the money for the plaintiffs.  A bunch of loonies made their lives hell because a deranged jackass made them out to be the grifters. I like the message the verdict sent, but I don't know if it'll ultimately be all that meaningful.

    This is a big test for "free-speech absolutism." It looks split in the court of public opinion.
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  • OnWis97 said:
    Jones's followers are going to send him a ton of money and guess what...the plaintiffs are not going to see a penny of the settlement (or at best, a very small fraction). Jones is going to make out like a bandit on this.

    The hope, I suppose, is that this serves as a deterrent for others engaging in similar behaviors. Maybe it will. I don't think this was ever about the money for the plaintiffs.  A bunch of loonies made their lives hell because a deranged jackass made them out to be the grifters. I like the message the verdict sent, but I don't know if it'll ultimately be all that meaningful.

    This is a big test for "free-speech absolutism." It looks split in the court of public opinion.
    Isn't this slander though?  He made false comments that had adverse affects.  That isn't free speech.


  • Gern Blansten
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    He will live the rest of his life paying for this. He'll make a meager living but he'll be miserable.

    But yeah....my feed is full of "so much for freedom of speech" idiocy
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  • mickeyrat said:
    And Jones was live broadcasting while the verdict was being read....mocking the amounts.


    He doesn't care at this point, I mean would you?  The amount is absurd and he needs to pay them somehow.

    His best bet is to move and not come back.

    mocking proceedings,  asking for money, then talking appeal. 
    He's a jerk but I get why he doesn't care at this point.

    If I heard right it's not even all of the families that sued him so far.

    I get Connecticut suing him, that was where the incident occurred but never dug into why Texas is suing?
  • mickeyrat
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    OnWis97 said:
    Jones's followers are going to send him a ton of money and guess what...the plaintiffs are not going to see a penny of the settlement (or at best, a very small fraction). Jones is going to make out like a bandit on this.

    The hope, I suppose, is that this serves as a deterrent for others engaging in similar behaviors. Maybe it will. I don't think this was ever about the money for the plaintiffs.  A bunch of loonies made their lives hell because a deranged jackass made them out to be the grifters. I like the message the verdict sent, but I don't know if it'll ultimately be all that meaningful.

    This is a big test for "free-speech absolutism." It looks split in the court of public opinion.
    Isn't this slander though?  He made false comments that had adverse affects.  That isn't free speech.



    defamation. thats what this lawsuit centered on.
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  • mickeyrat
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    mickeyrat said:
    And Jones was live broadcasting while the verdict was being read....mocking the amounts.


    He doesn't care at this point, I mean would you?  The amount is absurd and he needs to pay them somehow.

    His best bet is to move and not come back.

    mocking proceedings,  asking for money, then talking appeal. 
    He's a jerk but I get why he doesn't care at this point.

    If I heard right it's not even all of the families that sued him so far.

    I get Connecticut suing him, that was where the incident occurred but never dug into why Texas is suing?
    neither the states of Ct or Tx are suing. Plaintiffs filed in those locations.

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  • mickeyrat said:
    mickeyrat said:
    And Jones was live broadcasting while the verdict was being read....mocking the amounts.


    He doesn't care at this point, I mean would you?  The amount is absurd and he needs to pay them somehow.

    His best bet is to move and not come back.

    mocking proceedings,  asking for money, then talking appeal. 
    He's a jerk but I get why he doesn't care at this point.

    If I heard right it's not even all of the families that sued him so far.

    I get Connecticut suing him, that was where the incident occurred but never dug into why Texas is suing?
    neither the states of Ct or Tx are suing. Plaintiffs filed in those locations.

    Thanks for the input.  You know what I meant...
  • OnWis97
    OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 5,610
    OnWis97 said:
    Jones's followers are going to send him a ton of money and guess what...the plaintiffs are not going to see a penny of the settlement (or at best, a very small fraction). Jones is going to make out like a bandit on this.

    The hope, I suppose, is that this serves as a deterrent for others engaging in similar behaviors. Maybe it will. I don't think this was ever about the money for the plaintiffs.  A bunch of loonies made their lives hell because a deranged jackass made them out to be the grifters. I like the message the verdict sent, but I don't know if it'll ultimately be all that meaningful.

    This is a big test for "free-speech absolutism." It looks split in the court of public opinion.
    Isn't this slander though?  He made false comments that had adverse affects.  That isn't free speech.


    I agree. But the right wing response is he's being punished for free speech. All the whining about twitter bans, etc. has brought out this "free speech absolutist" thing that probably takes the pro-Fire in a Crowded Theater view.

    Whether this will change anything legally to enable harassment, I don't know. But I do believe that 20 years ago, nobody would be standing up for this turd.
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  • mickeyrat
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    mickeyrat said:
    mickeyrat said:
    And Jones was live broadcasting while the verdict was being read....mocking the amounts.


    He doesn't care at this point, I mean would you?  The amount is absurd and he needs to pay them somehow.

    His best bet is to move and not come back.

    mocking proceedings,  asking for money, then talking appeal. 
    He's a jerk but I get why he doesn't care at this point.

    If I heard right it's not even all of the families that sued him so far.

    I get Connecticut suing him, that was where the incident occurred but never dug into why Texas is suing?
    neither the states of Ct or Tx are suing. Plaintiffs filed in those locations.

    Thanks for the input.  You know what I meant...

    no. I didnt. It made it seem as if the states drove this.

    Tx filings I would assume is because he/company is based there. Ct filings may have been a ploy to draw jury sympathies from localish citizens. family travel and expenese would play a role too I expect.

    there may be reporting on this somewhere.
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  • mickeyrat said:
    mickeyrat said:
    mickeyrat said:
    And Jones was live broadcasting while the verdict was being read....mocking the amounts.


    He doesn't care at this point, I mean would you?  The amount is absurd and he needs to pay them somehow.

    His best bet is to move and not come back.

    mocking proceedings,  asking for money, then talking appeal. 
    He's a jerk but I get why he doesn't care at this point.

    If I heard right it's not even all of the families that sued him so far.

    I get Connecticut suing him, that was where the incident occurred but never dug into why Texas is suing?
    neither the states of Ct or Tx are suing. Plaintiffs filed in those locations.

    Thanks for the input.  You know what I meant...

    no. I didnt. It made it seem as if the states drove this.

    Tx filings I would assume is because he/company is based there. Ct filings may have been a ploy to draw jury sympathies from localish citizens. family travel and expenese would play a role too I expect.

    there may be reporting on this somewhere.
    Really?  I mentioned the families and where they were from.  I should have put "in" Ct and TX...

    Again, CT I get.  Texas and the one family there and not all of them is just weird.  i tried to find an article why but nothing is coming up.

    If this is the case then Jones could most likely be sued in every state?
  • OnWis97 said:
    OnWis97 said:
    Jones's followers are going to send him a ton of money and guess what...the plaintiffs are not going to see a penny of the settlement (or at best, a very small fraction). Jones is going to make out like a bandit on this.

    The hope, I suppose, is that this serves as a deterrent for others engaging in similar behaviors. Maybe it will. I don't think this was ever about the money for the plaintiffs.  A bunch of loonies made their lives hell because a deranged jackass made them out to be the grifters. I like the message the verdict sent, but I don't know if it'll ultimately be all that meaningful.

    This is a big test for "free-speech absolutism." It looks split in the court of public opinion.
    Isn't this slander though?  He made false comments that had adverse affects.  That isn't free speech.


    I agree. But the right wing response is he's being punished for free speech. All the whining about twitter bans, etc. has brought out this "free speech absolutist" thing that probably takes the pro-Fire in a Crowded Theater view.

    Whether this will change anything legally to enable harassment, I don't know. But I do believe that 20 years ago, nobody would be standing up for this turd.
    So Mick mentioned it's Defamation not slander.

    I do not get the "free speech" angle?  If it did cause harm, which it did, it should have a penalty.
  • mickeyrat
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    OnWis97 said:
    OnWis97 said:
    Jones's followers are going to send him a ton of money and guess what...the plaintiffs are not going to see a penny of the settlement (or at best, a very small fraction). Jones is going to make out like a bandit on this.

    The hope, I suppose, is that this serves as a deterrent for others engaging in similar behaviors. Maybe it will. I don't think this was ever about the money for the plaintiffs.  A bunch of loonies made their lives hell because a deranged jackass made them out to be the grifters. I like the message the verdict sent, but I don't know if it'll ultimately be all that meaningful.

    This is a big test for "free-speech absolutism." It looks split in the court of public opinion.
    Isn't this slander though?  He made false comments that had adverse affects.  That isn't free speech.


    I agree. But the right wing response is he's being punished for free speech. All the whining about twitter bans, etc. has brought out this "free speech absolutist" thing that probably takes the pro-Fire in a Crowded Theater view.

    Whether this will change anything legally to enable harassment, I don't know. But I do believe that 20 years ago, nobody would be standing up for this turd.
    So Mick mentioned it's Defamation not slander.

    I do not get the "free speech" angle?  If it did cause harm, which it did, it should have a penalty.

    think their argument is speech without consequence. 

    imo, say what you want. but be prepared to pay.
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  • Uvalde families are suing because he’s doing the same thing to them that he did to the Newtown families and he’s doing to Parkland. Same line of attack, same disinformation and same result with his delusional followers. He will pay and anyone who donates to him, any money received will be seized and forfeited. It’ll take time but it’ll happen and that money will eventually get to the victims who filed suit. Jail will humble him when the time comes. Tick Tock spastic.
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  • Uvalde families are suing?  All i see is he has to pay Sandy Hook families?