Abortion-Keep Legal, Yes or No?

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  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,662
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    EdsonNascimento said:
    Yes, it should be legal.

    The discussion we should be having is what are the restrictions? And before you jump down my throat - do people really believe there should be unfettered access to abortions in the 9th month?  On the other side of the coin, obvious exceptions at all times is mother's life.  What else and at what times?

    We need to get the crazy and extreme out of both sides and start concentrating our national discussions in the middle where most of the country is.
    well, the issue is not just abortion. it is bodily autonomy. i believe a woman should have control over her body at all times, so it is their choice. men need to stay the fuck out of it. people can not like abortion all they want, but do not impose your views on women.

    i do not like abortion, but i like the fact that women had the option to make the best decision for themselves.

    Perfectly stated!
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  • cblock4life
    cblock4life Posts: 1,855
    brianlux said:
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    EdsonNascimento said:
    Yes, it should be legal.

    The discussion we should be having is what are the restrictions? And before you jump down my throat - do people really believe there should be unfettered access to abortions in the 9th month?  On the other side of the coin, obvious exceptions at all times is mother's life.  What else and at what times?

    We need to get the crazy and extreme out of both sides and start concentrating our national discussions in the middle where most of the country is.
    well, the issue is not just abortion. it is bodily autonomy. i believe a woman should have control over her body at all times, so it is their choice. men need to stay the fuck out of it. people can not like abortion all they want, but do not impose your views on women.

    i do not like abortion, but i like the fact that women had the option to make the best decision for themselves.

    Perfectly stated!
    We just posted almost the same thing on may 7th.  


    HughFreakingDillon said:
    my wife is another. exact same stance. that's the essence of pro choice. 
    These are the best stances yet.  That was my point all along.  I was pregnant at 22 and engaged.  So when my son noticed that our anniversary obviously is before nine months I was able to say to him honestly that he was a CHOICE.  He wasn’t a mistake, nor did we even consider abortion.  Had I been 16 and alone I would have gone the adoption route.  I am against abortion for me.  It’s a free world so I get to choose and I don’t judge those who choose abortion, I’m not here to judge.  
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,662
    cblock4life said:
    brianlux said:
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    EdsonNascimento said:
    Yes, it should be legal.

    The discussion we should be having is what are the restrictions? And before you jump down my throat - do people really believe there should be unfettered access to abortions in the 9th month?  On the other side of the coin, obvious exceptions at all times is mother's life.  What else and at what times?

    We need to get the crazy and extreme out of both sides and start concentrating our national discussions in the middle where most of the country is.
    well, the issue is not just abortion. it is bodily autonomy. i believe a woman should have control over her body at all times, so it is their choice. men need to stay the fuck out of it. people can not like abortion all they want, but do not impose your views on women.

    i do not like abortion, but i like the fact that women had the option to make the best decision for themselves.

    Perfectly stated!
    We just posted almost the same thing on may 7th.  


    HughFreakingDillon said:
    my wife is another. exact same stance. that's the essence of pro choice. 
    These are the best stances yet.  That was my point all along.  I was pregnant at 22 and engaged.  So when my son noticed that our anniversary obviously is before nine months I was able to say to him honestly that he was a CHOICE.  He wasn’t a mistake, nor did we even consider abortion.  Had I been 16 and alone I would have gone the adoption route.  I am against abortion for me.  It’s a free world so I get to choose and I don’t judge those who choose abortion, I’m not here to judge.  
    "These are the best stances yet.  That was my point all along.  I was pregnant at 22 and engaged.  So when my son noticed that our anniversary obviously is before nine months I was able to say to him honestly that he was a CHOICE.  He wasn’t a mistake, nor did we even consider abortion.  Had I been 16 and alone I would have gone the adoption route.  I am against abortion for me.  It’s a free world so I get to choose and I don’t judge those who choose abortion, I’m not here to judge. "

    Well said, cblock, and good for you!  :smile:
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • Bentleyspop
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  • cblock4life
    cblock4life Posts: 1,855
    Bentleyspop said:

    Never have to guess where they stand…thanks for posting- gonna spread it around 
  • Hobbes
    Hobbes Pacific Northwest Posts: 6,438
    https://twitter.com/mikemccreadypj/status/1525582256034656256?s=21
  • hedonist
    hedonist Posts: 24,524
    Hobbes said:
    https://twitter.com/mikemccreadypj/status/1525582256034656256?s=21
    :)
  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,357
    gift article....


     Abortion in the Founders’ era: Violent, chaotic and unregulated
    By Gillian Brockell
    May 15, 2022 at 7:00 ET
    Justice Samuel A. Alito Jr. calls himself an originalist, someone who thinks the Constitution should be interpreted only by how it would have been understood by the Founders when they wrote it. So it’s no surprise that his draft opinion overturning Roe v. Wade is full of history.
    At least seven times, Alito cited Sir Matthew Hale, a 17th-century jurist who didn’t think marital rape was possible because wives were the property of their husbands, and who sentenced at least two women to die for witchcraft. Alito also cited a legal text from 1250 by Henry de Bracton that, in another section, says women are inferior to men, and that they sometimes give birth to literal monsters.
    Alito confined his exploration of the past to legal history and English common law. But to assess how the Founders would view abortion rights, it’s necessary to paint a fuller picture of what abortion was actually like in the time of the Founders.
    And it was very different from how it might look in a post-Roe America.
    Abortion in the Revolutionary War era
    In the 18th-century United States and England, abortion was common enough that there were slang terms for it, like “taking the cold,” “taking the trade” and “bringing down the flowers.” It was less-effective and more dangerous than it is now; women seeking abortions often died from infected wounds or poisons. And it was generally unregulated, except for a few instances in England and one in colonial Maryland mentioned by Alito in the draft opinion.
    In the late-18th and early-19th centuries, no states had laws against any form of abortion, though Alito averred that “manuals for justices of the peace printed in the colonies in the 18th century” sometimes "repeated Hale’s and [William] Blackstone’s statements that anyone who prescribed medication ‘unlawfully to destroy the child’ would be guilty of murder if the woman died.”

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  • Lerxst1992
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    hedonist said:
    Hobbes said:
    https://twitter.com/mikemccreadypj/status/1525582256034656256?s=21
    :)


    I wonder how many knew who they were marching with.
  • brianlux
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    Hobbes said:
    https://twitter.com/mikemccreadypj/status/1525582256034656256?s=21

    I love it-  Mike standing up for women's right to choose in my home city.  Awesome!
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    -Roberto Benigni

  • The Juggler
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    These people are crazy


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  • Halifax2TheMax
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    The Juggler said:
    These people are crazy


    Happens all the time. They just put it in the trash. Good thing we have patriots like Tim Pool asking the important relevant questions.
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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,454
    The Juggler said:
    These people are crazy


    I actually looked this up and one of the replies was awesome.
    "don't they take the baby in, and they raise it in the ways of the clinic....and that's how abortion doctors are made?".

    lol
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  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,662
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    The Juggler said:
    These people are crazy


    I actually looked this up and one of the replies was awesome.
    "don't they take the baby in, and they raise it in the ways of the clinic....and that's how abortion doctors are made?".

    lol

    Unfuckingbelievable!  :lol:
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  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,039
    The Juggler said:
    These people are crazy


    this is all kinds of incorrect. in most states abortions after the 2nd trimester were illegal. last i checked the 8th month was in the 3rd trimester. so if the baby falls out on the floor at the clinic, the mom can keep the baby or give it up for adoption. 
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,039
    a few days ago #adorpion was trending and i am still laughing about it.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,039

    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,662
    gimmesometruth27 said:


    Hilarious!  (But also sad and pathetic.)
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • Merkin Baller
    Merkin Baller Posts: 12,764
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    The Juggler said:
    These people are crazy


    this is all kinds of incorrect. in most states abortions after the 2nd trimester were illegal. last i checked the 8th month was in the 3rd trimester. so if the baby falls out on the floor at the clinic, the mom can keep the baby or give it up for adoption. 
    That's the great thing about bad faith arguments, whether or not they're rooted in fact or reality is completely irrelevant. 

  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,454
    gimmesometruth27 said:

    adorpian: (noun) adopting an aborted fetus
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