Abortion-Keep Legal, Yes or No?

static111 said:

dankind said:

I never thought that I would live to see the day when I would value large corporations as highly as I have over the past few years.

Don't let them fool you, they would subjugate us all fin the name of profits if they had the chance.

static111 said:

mrussel1 said:

static111 said:

dankind said:

I never thought that I would live to see the day when I would value large corporations as highly as I have over the past few years.

Don't let them fool you, they would subjugate us all fin the name of profits if they had the chance.

I don't think that's right at all.   

Companies are made up of actual humanoids, most of them middle class to upper middle class.  They are the backbone of any company and corporate leaders understand how valuable these people are to making the company run every day.  It's not 1910 with company towns.  I've worked in these companies and still work with them every single day.  They make decisions that are suboptimal from a profit standpoint. And these decisions are made by the middle to upper management.  I find them to be extremely risk averse, to the point of silliness. They do it due to regulatory pressure, media pressure, legal pressure, etc.  I'm not saying that there are no companies that are 'evil', but the stereotype is the outlier, not the rule.  

As a rule, I find that small and mid size companies pay less, have worse benefits, and generally treat their employees far worse than large corporations.  

So they aren't doing it to be altruistic.  What happens if the media, social and regulatory pressure is gone?  The way things are going all it takes is a savvier Trump to come to power and strip even more of the regulatory actions back, and the cheerleaders with the lets go Brandon flags will clap their hands while their rights are taken away.  When things get bad enough the company can simply say times are hard we can't offer the same benefits and pay as we used to but you should feel lucky to be employed etc.  Heck I remember 20 years ago having conversations with well off folks about how bad it is that the people that make our products make so little in the way of wages abroad, a common reply was "If they aren't getting $3 an hour they aren't getting anything at all".  It isn't far fetched and the devolution of society could happen faster than you would like to believe.  Sure it is cynical but it is well within the realm of possibility.

Bentleyspop said:

And now Oklahoma...

https://twitter.com/NormanNews/status/1511376080527138821?t=vGuIKs6lcw_BPo6zTe1U-A&s=19

Halifax2TheMax said:

As long as its someone else's 13 year old daughter, I'm sure. I guess the 13 year old's parents or grandparents don't have any rights because I'm sure they won't suffer any consequences when they kick her to the curb because they don't want to raise a rapist's baby? These are the people in power now and in 2024? Lights out. Oh, and thanks Bernie.

An Ohio lawmaker proposing a near-total abortion ban was given a hypothetical: A 13-year-old girl is raped and becomes pregnant as a result. Would the Republican’s bill force that teenager to have her rapist’s baby?

Yes — and the resulting child would be an “opportunity,” state Rep. Jean Schmidt said this week.

“It is a shame that it happens, but there’s an opportunity for that woman, no matter how young or old she is, to make a determination about what she’s going to do to help that life be a productive human being,” she said.

Schmidt made the comment while testifying Wednesday before a committee about her legislation, House Bill 598, which would ban abortions, except those needed to end life-threatening pregnancies. Schmidt’s bill is part of a wave of antiabortion legislation cropping up in Republican-controlled statehouses across the country as conservatives anticipate a Supreme Court decision that would overturn or weaken Roe v. Wade — an increasingly likely prospect as the court, with its 6-3 conservative majority, considers a case about Mississippi’s 15-week abortion ban, The Washington Post reported.

And, as a reminder................

Republican politicians have a history of making inflammatory statements about rape. Last month, Robert Regan, a Republican running for a seat in the Michigan legislature, said that he instructs his daughters to “just lie back and enjoy it” if they get raped. He was trying to make an analogy to abandoning efforts to decertify the 2020 presidential election results. In 2019, Missouri lawmaker Barry Hovis talked about how most sexual assaults were “consensual rapes” while debating antiabortion legislation, although he later told The Post he misspoke. And in 2012, Missouri Rep. Todd Akin’s campaign for U.S. Senate tanked after Akin, when asked about his opposition to abortion, said rape-induced pregnancies were “really rare,” adding that “if it’s a legitimate rape, the female body has ways to try to shut that whole thing down.”

Ohio state Rep. Jean Schmidt calls pregnancies from rape an 'opportunity' for victims - The Washington Post

cblock4life said:

The female body has ways to shut the whole thing down huh?  This shit is truly unfucking (is that one word or two?) believable.  I truly didn’t think there was still a man on earth who doesn’t know how females reproductive systems work.  Perhaps he’s referring to the hanger method because I’ll be damned if I knew how to make my babies go away.  Fucking morons run this country. 

Bentleyspop said:

cblock4life said:

The female body has ways to shut the whole thing down huh?  This shit is truly unfucking (is that one word or two?) believable.  I truly didn’t think there was still a man on earth who doesn’t know how females reproductive systems work.  Perhaps he’s referring to the hanger method because I’ll be damned if I knew how to make my babies go away.  Fucking morons run this country. 

Don't forget the fucking morons who support and vote for the fucking morons who run this country. Or aspire to run this country.

The Juggler said:

Everyone who sat out 2016 or voted third party: you reap what you sow.