“PJ Premium” on Ticketmaster?

Lerxst1992 said:

Not a surprise msg prices are off the chart, Camden sold 27,000 tickets in a minute… So many people want to see them in the I 95 corridor, considering the population, an unreal demand. Maybe one day we’ll see the volume of shows around here so we can properly show the band and the world our appreciation. Maybe not. It’s getting late.

We'll see what happens, but how quickly the lawn at camden sold out seems very fishy to me. That lawn holds almost 20k. Selling that many lawn tickets within an hour on a presale is unheard of.

I suspect in the coming months, we will be seeing periodic tickets dumps for the lawn....and more people than usual will buy them up due to the perceived scarcity of tickets. This is all a manipulative game for ticketmaster to sell their 'premium' tickets at inflated prices, while also creating the illusion that finding a lawn ticket is a big score when it's not. They are probably sitting on thousands of lawn tickets right now, but are waiting for people to buy premiums. Fortunately it doesn't seem like people are actually paying for those, but it would certainly be tougher for ticketmaster to sell $1200 and up seats next to a vast quantity of ga lawn listings for $59.95.

Same thing goes for nyc in regard to the market. I certainly won't argue that msg is toughest ticket of the tour, that much is obvious....but this notion that the $2-4k tickets that they are listing are market value is way off the mark. These tickets are not selling. Sometimes they disappear....which again, is ticketmaster trying to create the illusion of scarcity...but the same tickets keep randomly popping back up. I have no idea how many tickets they actually have left for msg, and I dont believe it's ever going to be easy to get a ticket at a normal price....but those prices are certainly going to come down at some point. Ticketmaster isn't going to just eat them if no one wants to pay thousands of dollars for them.

I know Denver and NYC wont have f2f, but if people were actually buying the premiums in any significant numbers, they would've opened the f2f up for the other dates by now. 

I went to every ECenter show between 98-03.   The guy above is correct. The lawn sold out within minutes every time.  I remember being in the old school Ticketmaster line on one occasion. I got the last of the seats and they ran out of lawn tickets before half of my line even got to the counter. 

rustneversleeps said:

cp3iverson said:

I went to every ECenter show between 98-03.   The guy above is correct. The lawn sold out within minutes every time.  

2 nights each time within minutes. they would put night 1 on sale, it would be gone in under 5 mins. then within the hour a 2nd night would pop up, and be gone in 5 mins. 

And all of that with multiple other shows in the northeast selling, too. This time there were no other shows. 

PJNB said:

mcgruff10 said:

Check that, 5k a seat. Sec 106 row 1

Wanna go halfers? Only if you sit on my lap,lol.

mshnayder said:

Lifted said:

Lerxst1992 said:

Not a surprise msg prices are off the chart, Camden sold 27,000 tickets in a minute… So many people want to see them in the I 95 corridor, considering the population, an unreal demand. Maybe one day we’ll see the volume of shows around here so we can properly show the band and the world our appreciation. Maybe not. It’s getting late.

We'll see what happens, but how quickly the lawn at camden sold out seems very fishy to me. That lawn holds almost 20k. Selling that many lawn tickets within an hour on a presale is unheard of.

I suspect in the coming months, we will be seeing periodic tickets dumps for the lawn....and more people than usual will buy them up due to the perceived scarcity of tickets. This is all a manipulative game for ticketmaster to sell their 'premium' tickets at inflated prices, while also creating the illusion that finding a lawn ticket is a big score when it's not. They are probably sitting on thousands of lawn tickets right now, but are waiting for people to buy premiums. Fortunately it doesn't seem like people are actually paying for those, but it would certainly be tougher for ticketmaster to sell $1200 and up seats next to a vast quantity of ga lawn listings for $59.95.

Same thing goes for nyc in regard to the market. I certainly won't argue that msg is toughest ticket of the tour, that much is obvious....but this notion that the $2-4k tickets that they are listing are market value is way off the mark. These tickets are not selling. Sometimes they disappear....which again, is ticketmaster trying to create the illusion of scarcity...but the same tickets keep randomly popping back up. I have no idea how many tickets they actually have left for msg, and I dont believe it's ever going to be easy to get a ticket at a normal price....but those prices are certainly going to come down at some point. Ticketmaster isn't going to just eat them if no one wants to pay thousands of dollars for them.

I know Denver and NYC wont have f2f, but if people were actually buying the premiums in any significant numbers, they would've opened the f2f up for the other dates by now. 

Highly disagree with this. This is a band that plays two nights in baseball stadiums and sells out in Boston, Chicago, and Seattle. I would argue Philly is a bigger PJ market than those cities. It's not fishy at all that they sold out of 27,000 tickets that fast with no sign of a second night being available.

I would even disagree with the NYC comment as well. I truly believe the market value to get into MSG for 1 night of PJ is around $2k. It's really not that crazy at all. The demand is there and it's simple economics. 

I commented earlier this weekend I was listening to one of the Camden shows from 2003 and Ed said something implying this. Back in the day album sales were a reliable measure, he said they sold disproportionately more albums in this region than anywhere else. I believe he was referring to the NY, PA, MA corridor. I can’t  recall ticket availability for any amount of tickets anywhere near NY or Philly over the years like a few of the shows available now . 

 It’s very curious two of the three shows added were in the CA Central Valley, considering two Oak shows were already on the schedule. Not sure if that decision matches their draw in that region, as population density in the valley is roughly 90% less than that on the other coast. 

Unforgivable

rustneversleeps said:

smile6680 said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

I prefer the swedish brown squirrels to the big grey ones running around NYC. But those are cute too ofc.

Looks like a Maine red squirrel. We kill them on site. They will do damage to houses and garages.

spiritual chaos is not going to like this 

Well, It's better than seeing your house burn down due to the fact they love to chew electrical wires. Grey squirrels and chipmunks can come and go as they please. 

JimmyV said:

$4,756 before fees this morning. A new record. 

$10,920 after fees lol