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  • masterpol
    masterpol Posts: 52
    Does anyone know if they have released or will release seats behind the stage for St. Louis? 
  • cmalisze
    cmalisze Posts: 2,636
    masterpol said:
    Does anyone know if they have released or will release seats behind the stage for St. Louis? 
    Sadly....nobody knows anything. If you know when they will open up F2F sales let us know too! 
  • on2legs
    on2legs Posts: 15,945
    masterpol said:
    Does anyone know if they have released or will release seats behind the stage for St. Louis? 
    There were a lot of behind the stage seats released during the verified fan sales.  Not sure if they are holding more back at this point but I’m guessing most of the seats we will see going forward are in better locations so they can command a higher price. 
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  • BR2428
    BR2428 Posts: 138
    One of my refunded Ten Club tickets appeared today as a $650 PJ Premium Ticket. I’m thinking the second one must’ve already sold. 
  • Evel K
    Evel K Posts: 582
    iamloco724 said:
    cmalisze said:
    JBob87 said:cmalisze said:
    JBob87 said:
    Man if this is the new normal for 10c, pretty disappointing...long long time members in the last row of seats, most 10c members in the back of the 200s...and tickets in the 100s for almost a grand.

    I know it's TM and not the band but this is really demoralizing. 
    It is the band willing to do business with TM. Do not confuse. TM makes the rules and PJ agrees to play by them. They have a choice. 

    Man if this is the new normal for 10c, pretty disappointing...long long time members in the last row of seats, most 10c members in the back of the 200s...and tickets in the 100s for almost a grand.

    I know it's TM and not the band but this is really demoralizing. 
    It is the band willing to do business with TM. Do not confuse. TM makes the rules and PJ agrees to play by them. They have a choice. 
    Technically they have a choice but we all saw what happened when they chose not to work with TM so is it really a choice especially when it's even worse these days? 
    They had 5 years under their belt and sat in front of Congress talking about how Ticketmaster had a monopoly on ticketing. They did a tour without Ticketmaster and lost their case. If they really wanted to change the system, they should try again. Fuck Ticketmaster 2025. "If you hate something, don't you do it too."
    Things were different then
  • Zod
    Zod Posts: 10,889
    Evel K said:
    iamloco724 said:
    cmalisze said:
    JBob87 said:cmalisze said:
    JBob87 said:
    Man if this is the new normal for 10c, pretty disappointing...long long time members in the last row of seats, most 10c members in the back of the 200s...and tickets in the 100s for almost a grand.

    I know it's TM and not the band but this is really demoralizing. 
    It is the band willing to do business with TM. Do not confuse. TM makes the rules and PJ agrees to play by them. They have a choice. 

    Man if this is the new normal for 10c, pretty disappointing...long long time members in the last row of seats, most 10c members in the back of the 200s...and tickets in the 100s for almost a grand.

    I know it's TM and not the band but this is really demoralizing. 
    It is the band willing to do business with TM. Do not confuse. TM makes the rules and PJ agrees to play by them. They have a choice. 
    Technically they have a choice but we all saw what happened when they chose not to work with TM so is it really a choice especially when it's even worse these days? 
    They had 5 years under their belt and sat in front of Congress talking about how Ticketmaster had a monopoly on ticketing. They did a tour without Ticketmaster and lost their case. If they really wanted to change the system, they should try again. Fuck Ticketmaster 2025. "If you hate something, don't you do it too."

    How?  They tried that in '95 by doing a tour using derelict or invented venues, and almost killed themselves.  That's not even an option anymore.  I don't think there's anyway to tour without TM anymore.

    How it's not been declared a monopoly I have no idea.

    That being said, I'm guessing other ticket agencies will use platinum too.   I know the RATM show in Vancouver had platinum tickets too, and it doesn't use TM.

    I think TM invented platinum to make more $$ for everyone, but it does result in more money for artists.  So it's not like competitors aren't going to use it too.
  • JP218404
    JP218404 NJ Posts: 1,412
    edited April 2022
    They did change the system. 

    What other bands can you NOT resale except for “face” outside of NY and CO due to laws?  That’s progress.  They did it. Plenty bands can but don’t. 

    They secure 50-75% of the venue for fan club. Newsflash fan club is an elite way to get tickets before general public.  Kudos to them for cutting those deals. 

    If they toured more the demand wouldn’t  be as great in certain markets 

    Platinum ain’t going away so move on. Ain’t on them. It’s a TM/LN creation. 

    Everyone buys merch. How ya feel that The promoters get anywhere from 15- 25% of the sales?  So we are all giving them more money.   

    TM/ LN are full on scams BUT until someone comes alone and buys the venues to control the system , it ain’t gonna change. The best everyone can hope for is what this band does for its fans. 

    Enjoy the shows if you’re going and be happy that you got your tickets for the lowest price available  


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  • UKBgirl
    UKBgirl UK Posts: 99
    Reading these threads from a UK/Europe perspective the market manipulation/strangulation by TM seems blatant.  Comparing the prices we are paying where TM have genuine competition and aren't allowed sole control of the market is eye watering.

    For example my ticket to Hyde Park Friday is VIP, includes food and drink and merch.  It's just under £300 ($400 ish), less than many are paying for entrance at the US gigs!

    Other dates in Europe for gigs more directly akin to US dates are €65-€120 ($75-$130 ish) and these are public sale not 10C!

    Honestly I think PJ have done the best they can to help fans against the stranglehold TM seems to have.  It's that or no US tours, just a few fest appearances by the looks of it, and that would really cause a new level of bitching!
  • JimmyV
    JimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,596
    BR2428 said:
    One of my refunded Ten Club tickets appeared today as a $650 PJ Premium Ticket. I’m thinking the second one must’ve already sold. 
    Or hasn't been released for sale yet. 
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  • cmalisze
    cmalisze Posts: 2,636
    JP218404 said:
    They did change the system. 

    What other bands can you NOT resale except for “face” outside of NY and CO due to laws?  That’s progress.  They did it. Plenty bands can but don’t. 

    They secure 50-75% of the venue for fan club. Newsflash fan club is an elite way to get tickets before general public.  Kudos to them for cutting those deals. 

    If they toured more the demand wouldn’t  be as great in certain markets 

    Platinum ain’t going away so move on. Ain’t on them. It’s a TM/LN creation. 

    Everyone buys merch. How ya feel that The promoters get anywhere from 15- 25% of the sales?  So we are all giving them more money.   

    TM/ LN are full on scams BUT until someone comes alone and buys the venues to control the system , it ain’t gonna change. The best everyone can hope for is what this band does for its fans. 

    Enjoy the shows if you’re going and be happy that you got your tickets for the lowest price available  


    For some now not to see that the locking of tickets and the F2F only option to sell is only enhancing the problem is hilarious. This is exactly how they (PJ and TM) manipulate the market. This is the start of the problem. It is not a free market. We have been lied to. Does the Ten Club have good intentions? I'd love to believe so. I just can't believe they are this ignorant while also having the best of intentions. Do they have a choice? Possibly not but, come by it honestly. 
  • JP218404
    JP218404 NJ Posts: 1,412
    edited April 2022
    cmalisze said:
    JP218404 said:
    They did change the system. 

    What other bands can you NOT resale except for “face” outside of NY and CO due to laws?  That’s progress.  They did it. Plenty bands can but don’t. 

    They secure 50-75% of the venue for fan club. Newsflash fan club is an elite way to get tickets before general public.  Kudos to them for cutting those deals. 

    If they toured more the demand wouldn’t  be as great in certain markets 

    Platinum ain’t going away so move on. Ain’t on them. It’s a TM/LN creation. 

    Everyone buys merch. How ya feel that The promoters get anywhere from 15- 25% of the sales?  So we are all giving them more money.   

    TM/ LN are full on scams BUT until someone comes alone and buys the venues to control the system , it ain’t gonna change. The best everyone can hope for is what this band does for its fans. 

    Enjoy the shows if you’re going and be happy that you got your tickets for the lowest price available  


    For some now not to see that the locking of tickets and the F2F only option to sell is only enhancing the problem is hilarious. This is exactly how they (PJ and TM) manipulate the market. This is the start of the problem. It is not a free market. We have been lied to. Does the Ten Club have good intentions? I'd love to believe so. I just can't believe they are this ignorant while also having the best of intentions. Do they have a choice? Possibly not but, come by it honestly. 

    a free market would be all the tickets sold on TM and fan club gets nothing. Ya want that chaos? I don’t. Would rather know a nice portion of fans got tixs

    and I’ve said ir before. If they just cancelled the shows and everyone got their money back and now put up a new tour in the same markets and a new lottery people would
    lose it as well.  This tour was a no win for them.  
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  • pjl44
    pjl44 Posts: 10,520
    Click through for the thread if you want a taste of the industry via Frank Turner


  • cmalisze
    cmalisze Posts: 2,636
    JP218404 said:
    cmalisze said:
    JP218404 said:
    They did change the system. 

    What other bands can you NOT resale except for “face” outside of NY and CO due to laws?  That’s progress.  They did it. Plenty bands can but don’t. 

    They secure 50-75% of the venue for fan club. Newsflash fan club is an elite way to get tickets before general public.  Kudos to them for cutting those deals. 

    If they toured more the demand wouldn’t  be as great in certain markets 

    Platinum ain’t going away so move on. Ain’t on them. It’s a TM/LN creation. 

    Everyone buys merch. How ya feel that The promoters get anywhere from 15- 25% of the sales?  So we are all giving them more money.   

    TM/ LN are full on scams BUT until someone comes alone and buys the venues to control the system , it ain’t gonna change. The best everyone can hope for is what this band does for its fans. 

    Enjoy the shows if you’re going and be happy that you got your tickets for the lowest price available  


    For some now not to see that the locking of tickets and the F2F only option to sell is only enhancing the problem is hilarious. This is exactly how they (PJ and TM) manipulate the market. This is the start of the problem. It is not a free market. We have been lied to. Does the Ten Club have good intentions? I'd love to believe so. I just can't believe they are this ignorant while also having the best of intentions. Do they have a choice? Possibly not but, come by it honestly. 

    a free market would be all the tickets sold on TM and fan club gets nothing. Ya want that chaos? I don’t. Would rather know a nice portion of fans got tixs
    Define a free market? Our definition may be different. 
  • JP218404
    JP218404 NJ Posts: 1,412
    pjl44 said:
    Click through for the thread if you want a taste of the industry via Frank Turner


    It’s not easy. I work with bands that hit the road and next thing ya know they have to hold up a tour for a week affecting all the other bands on tour with them. 

    They still have to pay the crew and now either have to get a hotel for 4 days, feed themselves more since they get no dinners from the promoters. Don’t get paid for the gigs and now have to figure out how to get back into the room they were playing cause the touring market is flooded

    its Ugly out there 
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  • cmalisze
    cmalisze Posts: 2,636
    JP218404 said:
    pjl44 said:
    Click through for the thread if you want a taste of the industry via Frank Turner


    It’s not easy. I work with bands that hit the road and next thing ya know they have to hold up a tour for a week affecting all the other bands on tour with them. 

    They still have to pay the crew and now either have to get a hotel for 4 days, feed themselves more since they get no dinners from the promoters. Don’t get paid for the gigs and now have to figure out how to get back into the room they were playing cause the touring market is flooded

    its Ugly out there 
    If only millionaires made thousands less. 
  • JP218404
    JP218404 NJ Posts: 1,412
    cmalisze said:
    JP218404 said:
    pjl44 said:
    Click through for the thread if you want a taste of the industry via Frank Turner


    It’s not easy. I work with bands that hit the road and next thing ya know they have to hold up a tour for a week affecting all the other bands on tour with them. 

    They still have to pay the crew and now either have to get a hotel for 4 days, feed themselves more since they get no dinners from the promoters. Don’t get paid for the gigs and now have to figure out how to get back into the room they were playing cause the touring market is flooded

    its Ugly out there 
    If only millionaires made thousands less. 
    Yeah cause the bands in a van are millionaires. 
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  • cmalisze
    cmalisze Posts: 2,636
    JP218404 said:
    cmalisze said:
    JP218404 said:
    pjl44 said:
    Click through for the thread if you want a taste of the industry via Frank Turner


    It’s not easy. I work with bands that hit the road and next thing ya know they have to hold up a tour for a week affecting all the other bands on tour with them. 

    They still have to pay the crew and now either have to get a hotel for 4 days, feed themselves more since they get no dinners from the promoters. Don’t get paid for the gigs and now have to figure out how to get back into the room they were playing cause the touring market is flooded

    its Ugly out there 
    If only millionaires made thousands less. 
    Yeah cause the bands in a van are millionaires. 
    I missed where in the PJ forum we aren't talking about PJ. Bands in vans are a separate conversation completely irrelevant to this one. 
  • cmalisze
    cmalisze Posts: 2,636
    JP218404 said:
    cmalisze said:
    JP218404 said:
    pjl44 said:
    Click through for the thread if you want a taste of the industry via Frank Turner


    It’s not easy. I work with bands that hit the road and next thing ya know they have to hold up a tour for a week affecting all the other bands on tour with them. 

    They still have to pay the crew and now either have to get a hotel for 4 days, feed themselves more since they get no dinners from the promoters. Don’t get paid for the gigs and now have to figure out how to get back into the room they were playing cause the touring market is flooded

    its Ugly out there 
    If only millionaires made thousands less. 
    Yeah cause the bands in a van are millionaires. 
    Show me the "Bands in Vans Premium" seats....
  • mpedone
    mpedone 540xxx - Manchester, NH Posts: 1,961
    cmalisze said:
    JP218404 said:
    cmalisze said:
    JP218404 said:
    They did change the system. 

    What other bands can you NOT resale except for “face” outside of NY and CO due to laws?  That’s progress.  They did it. Plenty bands can but don’t. 

    They secure 50-75% of the venue for fan club. Newsflash fan club is an elite way to get tickets before general public.  Kudos to them for cutting those deals. 

    If they toured more the demand wouldn’t  be as great in certain markets 

    Platinum ain’t going away so move on. Ain’t on them. It’s a TM/LN creation. 

    Everyone buys merch. How ya feel that The promoters get anywhere from 15- 25% of the sales?  So we are all giving them more money.   

    TM/ LN are full on scams BUT until someone comes alone and buys the venues to control the system , it ain’t gonna change. The best everyone can hope for is what this band does for its fans. 

    Enjoy the shows if you’re going and be happy that you got your tickets for the lowest price available  


    For some now not to see that the locking of tickets and the F2F only option to sell is only enhancing the problem is hilarious. This is exactly how they (PJ and TM) manipulate the market. This is the start of the problem. It is not a free market. We have been lied to. Does the Ten Club have good intentions? I'd love to believe so. I just can't believe they are this ignorant while also having the best of intentions. Do they have a choice? Possibly not but, come by it honestly. 

    a free market would be all the tickets sold on TM and fan club gets nothing. Ya want that chaos? I don’t. Would rather know a nice portion of fans got tixs
    Define a free market? Our definition may be different. 

    I'm curious as to your definition.
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  • JP218404
    JP218404 NJ Posts: 1,412
    cmalisze said:
    JP218404 said:
    cmalisze said:
    JP218404 said:
    pjl44 said:
    Click through for the thread if you want a taste of the industry via Frank Turner


    It’s not easy. I work with bands that hit the road and next thing ya know they have to hold up a tour for a week affecting all the other bands on tour with them. 

    They still have to pay the crew and now either have to get a hotel for 4 days, feed themselves more since they get no dinners from the promoters. Don’t get paid for the gigs and now have to figure out how to get back into the room they were playing cause the touring market is flooded

    its Ugly out there 
    If only millionaires made thousands less. 
    Yeah cause the bands in a van are millionaires. 
    I missed where in the PJ forum we aren't talking about PJ. Bands in vans are a separate conversation completely irrelevant to this one. 
    The answer was the frank turner Twitter post

    as far as PJ goes, they have been paying their crew and staff for 2+ years now  as they are employees.  You wanna go about millionaires. They could have told them to scratch. They didn’t. 
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