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tempo_n_groove said:Halifax2TheMax said:For those keeping score, 8 of the 10 states with the highest murder rates are run by repubs. I guess you can call it shatties versus shitties?0
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Let me know when you hear Linda complaining about those red shitcounties in CA, one of which, the 23rd district, is currently represented by the House repub minority leader.
SAN FRANCISCO – August 25, 2021 – A report released today by the Center on Juvenile and Criminal Justice finds that, compared to the 35 California counties that voted Democratic in the 2020 presidential election, the state’s 23 Republican-voting counties have higher rates of violent crime, including homicides.
For decades, Republican candidates and elected officials have demanded a “get-tough” approach to crime that generated more arrests, more imprisonments, and longer prison sentences. As a result, a person is 58 percent more likely to be arrested and 41 percent more likely to be incarcerated in a Republican-voting county than in a Democratic-voting one. Likewise, 12 of the 13 highest-incarceration counties vote Republican, while 16 of the 18 lowest-incarceration counties vote Democratic.
But have the hardline approaches pursued by Republicans officials actually reduced crime? Just the opposite. Republican-voting counties are seeing lesser declines in crime and higher rates of crime, particularly violent offenses and homicides, compared to their Democratic-voting counterparts.
Crime trends and violence worse in California’s Republican-voting counties than Democratic-voting counties — Center on Juvenile and Criminal Justice (cjcj.org)Post edited by Halifax2TheMax on09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;
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dankind said:tempo_n_groove said:oftenreading said:tempo_n_groove said:Halifax2TheMax said:For those keeping score, 8 of the 10 states with the highest murder rates are run by repubs. I guess you can call it shatties versus shitties?
But why would you not look at data per capita? You can't compare events in different cities if you're not comparing by population (among other factors).
Per capita is better for smaller areas.
Murder rate data is simply more robust and thus more informative for law enforcement agencies, their budgets, etc.HughFreakingDillon said:using per capita only when it suits your needs is a bit odd.
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tempo_n_groove said:dankind said:tempo_n_groove said:oftenreading said:tempo_n_groove said:Halifax2TheMax said:For those keeping score, 8 of the 10 states with the highest murder rates are run by repubs. I guess you can call it shatties versus shitties?
But why would you not look at data per capita? You can't compare events in different cities if you're not comparing by population (among other factors).
Per capita is better for smaller areas.
Murder rate data is simply more robust and thus more informative for law enforcement agencies, their budgets, etc.HughFreakingDillon said:using per capita only when it suits your needs is a bit odd.09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;
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I would feel safer somewhere with less murders per capita but more overall murders than somewhere with more murders per capita but less overall murders...It just seems like better betting odds.Scio me nihil scire
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static111 said:I would feel safer somewhere with less murders per capita but more overall murders than somewhere with more murders per capita but less overall murders...It just seems like better betting odds.0
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Let's not let data get in the way. Keep that prison-industrial complex going. It solves all of your problems. From the previous link:
- Violent and property crime rates have declined most rapidly in Democratic-voting counties.
- Homicide rates in Republican-voting counties are now 28 percent higher than in Democratic-voting counties.
- The homicide death rate among White people in Republican-voting counties is on par with people of color in Democratic-voting ones, challenging widely held beliefs about violence in urban communities of color.
- Republican-voting counties experience higher rates of drug, alcohol, and gun deaths than Democratic-voting counties, particularly among White residents.
- Republican-voting counties pay less in state and local taxes per capita but rely more heavily on California’s costly prison system.
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Halifax2TheMax said:tempo_n_groove said:dankind said:tempo_n_groove said:oftenreading said:tempo_n_groove said:Halifax2TheMax said:For those keeping score, 8 of the 10 states with the highest murder rates are run by repubs. I guess you can call it shatties versus shitties?
But why would you not look at data per capita? You can't compare events in different cities if you're not comparing by population (among other factors).
Per capita is better for smaller areas.
Murder rate data is simply more robust and thus more informative for law enforcement agencies, their budgets, etc.HughFreakingDillon said:using per capita only when it suits your needs is a bit odd.0 -
30 years of data:
While people of color in Republican counties are arrested at the highest rates, racial arrest gaps have narrowed considerably in recent decades. However, Republican counties lag behind Democratic counties in reducing crime and arrest rates involving both White people and people of color. These patterns are surprising for a number of reasons. Law enforcement statistics show White residents, rural areas, and older ages are generally known for lower arrest rates than residents of color, urban areas, and younger ages. Yet, over the last 30 years, these once hard-and-fast rules within the criminal justice system have disappeared. People of color in and around cities now have as low or lower arrest rates than White people in exurban and rural areas. This stunningly refutes rumors in right-wing media and political discourse that nonwhite immigration is bringing more crime and drugs to rural areas (CJCJ, 2017)
Link to report:
Microsoft Word - californias_republican_counties_have_worse_crime_trends_and_higher_violent_crime_rates_than_democratic_counties.docx (cjcj.org)
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Its rich reporting. But you'll never hear it on Faux.
Conclusion
California’s 23 Republican-voting counties stand out as uniquely troubled on many fronts. Their per-capita adjusted gross incomes (totaling $25,800 in 2018) are far below those of Democratic-voting counties ($42,200), and their state and local tax contributions ($430 per capita) also substantially lag those of Democratic counties ($762) (IRS, 2021) (Table 2). Republican counties exceed Democratic-voting counties in homicide and other violent death, reported crime, criminal arrest, drug and alcohol death, gun death, and incarceration rates. All this despite the traditional advantages of Whiteness and exurban-rural locales in boosting incomes and mitigating arrests. In fact, White people in Republican counties now have higher criminal arrest rates than people of color in Democratic counties. Republican counties’ low tax contributions and greatly excessive state imprisonment rates for both adults and youth generate extra costs that must be paid by all state taxpayers.
Further, the gaps between urban/suburban-Democratic and exurban/rural-Republican California are widening, contributing to extremist politics and intractable divisions. Thirty years ago, the state’s cities White people in Republican-voting counties experienced the worst economic hardships and highest rates of violent crime. Today, it is its exurbs, small towns, and rural areas. It is important to note that the issues challenging different races and locales may stem from very different drivers. For many Republican-voting White people, resentments and fears toward perceived loss of racial status is a key factor in their rising radicalization. That is, the economic, crime, drug use, violent death (often termed “deaths of despair”), and incarceration woes increasingly afflicting White people in conservative areas appear related to internal reactions against “America's growing racial diversity and a perceived loss of U.S. global dominance” and “an effort to maintain their perceived social dominance” (Annenberg School, 2018; Case & Deaton, 2020). In contrast, poverty and violence affecting people of color are largely driven by externally imposed systemic racism. Just as state policy makers directed special interventions to stem urban problems in the 1990s, innovative measures may be necessary to address the social harms, high costs, and taxation deficits being imposed on all of California by Republican-voting counties.
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tempo_n_groove said:static111 said:I would feel safer somewhere with less murders per capita but more overall murders than somewhere with more murders per capita but less overall murders...It just seems like better betting odds.my small self... like a book amongst the many on a shelf0
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tempo_n_groove said:dankind said:tempo_n_groove said:oftenreading said:tempo_n_groove said:Halifax2TheMax said:For those keeping score, 8 of the 10 states with the highest murder rates are run by repubs. I guess you can call it shatties versus shitties?
But why would you not look at data per capita? You can't compare events in different cities if you're not comparing by population (among other factors).
Per capita is better for smaller areas.
Murder rate data is simply more robust and thus more informative for law enforcement agencies, their budgets, etc.HughFreakingDillon said:using per capita only when it suits your needs is a bit odd.Hugh Freaking Dillon is currently out of the office, returning sometime in the fall0 -
benjs said:lindamarie73 said:PJ_Soul said:From everything I've heard and read, Seattle doesn't sound like the city I know and love... It really does seem like a lot changed for the worse since I was last there, pre-COVID. And that really sucks.
Per chapter 3 of the QtRUmplican troll instruction manual...leave a random hate-filled post, do not respond to any responses to that post, then make another donation to help the former guy fight all the lawsuits and all the election fraud.0 -
HughFreakingDillon said:tempo_n_groove said:dankind said:tempo_n_groove said:oftenreading said:tempo_n_groove said:Halifax2TheMax said:For those keeping score, 8 of the 10 states with the highest murder rates are run by repubs. I guess you can call it shatties versus shitties?
But why would you not look at data per capita? You can't compare events in different cities if you're not comparing by population (among other factors).
Per capita is better for smaller areas.
Murder rate data is simply more robust and thus more informative for law enforcement agencies, their budgets, etc.HughFreakingDillon said:using per capita only when it suits your needs is a bit odd.0 -
tempo_n_groove said:HughFreakingDillon said:tempo_n_groove said:dankind said:tempo_n_groove said:oftenreading said:tempo_n_groove said:Halifax2TheMax said:For those keeping score, 8 of the 10 states with the highest murder rates are run by repubs. I guess you can call it shatties versus shitties?
But why would you not look at data per capita? You can't compare events in different cities if you're not comparing by population (among other factors).
Per capita is better for smaller areas.
Murder rate data is simply more robust and thus more informative for law enforcement agencies, their budgets, etc.HughFreakingDillon said:using per capita only when it suits your needs is a bit odd.
where did you see Steinbach had more murders than seattle?Hugh Freaking Dillon is currently out of the office, returning sometime in the fall0 -
HughFreakingDillon said:tempo_n_groove said:HughFreakingDillon said:tempo_n_groove said:dankind said:tempo_n_groove said:oftenreading said:tempo_n_groove said:Halifax2TheMax said:For those keeping score, 8 of the 10 states with the highest murder rates are run by repubs. I guess you can call it shatties versus shitties?
But why would you not look at data per capita? You can't compare events in different cities if you're not comparing by population (among other factors).
Per capita is better for smaller areas.
Murder rate data is simply more robust and thus more informative for law enforcement agencies, their budgets, etc.HughFreakingDillon said:using per capita only when it suits your needs is a bit odd.
where did you see Steinbach had more murders than seattle?0 -
well, winnipeg.org doesn't exist, and there weren't 43 in Steinbach in 2021. or any one year. it's a very small, very religious, mostly dry town. that's the number for the entire province.Hugh Freaking Dillon is currently out of the office, returning sometime in the fall0
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HughFreakingDillon said:well, winnipeg.org doesn't exist, and there weren't 43 in Steinbach in 2021. or any one year. it's a very small, very religious, mostly dry town. that's the number for the entire province.Lol. I was gonna say... I've never even heard of Steinbach, but I think I would have if its murder rate was that high!With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata0
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HughFreakingDillon said:well, winnipeg.org doesn't exist, and there weren't 43 in Steinbach in 2021. or any one year. it's a very small, very religious, mostly dry town. that's the number for the entire province.
Yes it's for Winnipeg. Sorry I'm piss poor at my Canadian geography.0 -
haha I wouldn't expect ANYONE to have heard of Steinbach, even people in Canada. that was the point of the example. didn't go over well apparently lol.
people here only go there to buy a car.
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HughFreakingDillon said:haha I wouldn't expect ANYONE to have heard of Steinbach, even people in Canada. that was the point of the example. didn't go over well apparently lol.
people here only go there to buy a car.0 -
it's not a part of winnipeg. it's a 17,000 population city, about a half hour drive east of winnipeg.Post edited by HughFreakingDillon onHugh Freaking Dillon is currently out of the office, returning sometime in the fall0
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Chris, just stop. You suck at this.I SAW PEARL JAM0
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benjs said:lindamarie73 said:PJ_Soul said:From everything I've heard and read, Seattle doesn't sound like the city I know and love... It really does seem like a lot changed for the worse since I was last there, pre-COVID. And that really sucks.0
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you and your "struck a nerve" comments. jesus. you didn't strike a nerve. what you don't get is we are LAUGHING AT YOU. we think it's sad.Hugh Freaking Dillon is currently out of the office, returning sometime in the fall0
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lindamarie73 said:benjs said:lindamarie73 said:PJ_Soul said:From everything I've heard and read, Seattle doesn't sound like the city I know and love... It really does seem like a lot changed for the worse since I was last there, pre-COVID. And that really sucks.
If anyone is afraid to travel to Camden in the fall, I know peeps looking for tickets.
Sad? Even picking up the vernacular.09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;
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lindamarie73 said:benjs said:lindamarie73 said:PJ_Soul said:From everything I've heard and read, Seattle doesn't sound like the city I know and love... It really does seem like a lot changed for the worse since I was last there, pre-COVID. And that really sucks.
Criticizing your posts isn't the same as insulting you, but if your posts are consistently immature insults and/or misinformation, your credibility suffers (again - different from an insult). At that point, your "the Kool-Aid drinkers won't even see my point of view" premise may become true - but it'll be your fault.'05 - TO, '06 - TO 1, '08 - NYC 1 & 2, '09 - TO, Chi 1 & 2, '10 - Buffalo, NYC 1 & 2, '11 - TO 1 & 2, Hamilton, '13 - Buffalo, Brooklyn 1 & 2, '15 - Global Citizen, '16 - TO 1 & 2, Chi 2
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HughFreakingDillon said:it's not a part of winnipeg. it's a 17,000 population city, about a half hour drive east of winnipeg.dankind said:Chris, just stop. You suck at this.
This is why I should study Northern Geography...0 -
tempo_n_groove said:HughFreakingDillon said:it's not a part of winnipeg. it's a 17,000 population city, about a half hour drive east of winnipeg.dankind said:Chris, just stop. You suck at this.
This is why I should study Northern Geography...Hugh Freaking Dillon is currently out of the office, returning sometime in the fall0 -
Seattle fell so hard this turned into a thread about Winnipeg.0
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