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  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 41,973
    It’s been verified, clearly, Seattle has fallen.
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  • static111
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    Halifax2TheMax said:
    It’s been verified, clearly, Seattle has fallen.
    But is it as bad as Ottawa?
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  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 41,973
    static111 said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    It’s been verified, clearly, Seattle has fallen.
    But is it as bad as Ottawa?
    Worse
    09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;

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  • Bentleyspop
    Bentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 11,385
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    static111 said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    It’s been verified, clearly, Seattle has fallen.
    But is it as bad as Ottawa?
    Worse
    Now do Portland 
  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 41,973
    Bentleyspop said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    static111 said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    It’s been verified, clearly, Seattle has fallen.
    But is it as bad as Ottawa?
    Worse
    Now do Portland 
    Start a thread.
    09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;

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  • BS44325
    BS44325 Posts: 6,124
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    It’s been verified, clearly, Seattle has fallen.
    Verified indeed…

  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 41,973
    BS44325 said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    It’s been verified, clearly, Seattle has fallen.
    Verified indeed…

    Yea, sure. Seattle fell so far and hard that Eddie and the Earthlings canceled their shows and played them in Portland instead. And ooooooo, Amazon moved out, heaven forbid!

    What’s the matter? Putin on the ritz and the brilliant brilliance of the war in Ukraine in all its brilliancy got you down, professor? Or is it the trucker’s convoy?

    Verified.
    09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;

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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,650
    edited March 2022
    From everything I've heard and read, Seattle doesn't sound like the city I know and love... It really does seem like a lot changed for the worse since I was last there, pre-COVID. And that really sucks.
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  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,324
    PJ_Soul said:
    From everything I've heard and read, Seattle doesn't sound like the city I know and love... It really does seem like a lot changed for the worse since I was last there, pre-COVID. And that really sucks.
    I didn't think it was that great in 2018.  There has been a decline there every time i've visited it since 1995.

  • lindamarie73
    lindamarie73 Posts: 491
    PJ_Soul said:
    From everything I've heard and read, Seattle doesn't sound like the city I know and love... It really does seem like a lot changed for the worse since I was last there, pre-COVID. And that really sucks.
    Not just Seattle, this Great RE-SET is happening in most rotten brain infested Big shitties throughout America.  And the common theme on who controls those shitties like NYC, LA, CHI, one might ask?? Well ya’know…One cannot talk about that, especially on here…Wake me up when the Woke decides to sleep 
  • Halifax2TheMax
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    For those keeping score, 8 of the 10 states with the highest murder rates are run by repubs. I guess you can call it shatties versus shitties?
    09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;

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  • benjs
    benjs Toronto, ON Posts: 9,359
    lindamarie73 said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    From everything I've heard and read, Seattle doesn't sound like the city I know and love... It really does seem like a lot changed for the worse since I was last there, pre-COVID. And that really sucks.
    Not just Seattle, this Great RE-SET is happening in most rotten brain infested Big shitties throughout America.  And the common theme on who controls those shitties like NYC, LA, CHI, one might ask?? Well ya’know…One cannot talk about that, especially on here…Wake me up when the Woke decides to sleep 
    Linda, you're welcome to talk about anything you want on here - you seem to be the intolerant one of others who would make good faith arguments, because you spew nonsense. This nonsense, of course, comes in between your insults that wouldn't seem out of place in a third grade class, and makes it nearly impossible to think of you as a credible source, let alone an opinion worth learning from.


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  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,324
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    For those keeping score, 8 of the 10 states with the highest murder rates are run by repubs. I guess you can call it shatties versus shitties?
    It's actually 4/10 if you go by actual murders and not per capita/100 population.
  • nicknyr15
    nicknyr15 Posts: 9,200
    tempo_n_groove said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    For those keeping score, 8 of the 10 states with the highest murder rates are run by repubs. I guess you can call it shatties versus shitties?
    It's actually 4/10 if you go by actual murders and not per capita/100 population.
    And let’s not take into account quality of life crimes as well. Random slashings, pushed into train tracks , getting feces thrown in your face. Let’s only pick and choose according to our political bias. 
  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,324
    nicknyr15 said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    For those keeping score, 8 of the 10 states with the highest murder rates are run by repubs. I guess you can call it shatties versus shitties?
    It's actually 4/10 if you go by actual murders and not per capita/100 population.
    And let’s not take into account quality of life crimes as well. Random slashings, pushed into train tracks , getting feces thrown in your face. Let’s only pick and choose according to our political bias. 
    Nick you see that 26yo got popped for pushing that 83yo on the tracks in NYC?

    We live in crazy times...
  • oftenreading
    oftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856
    tempo_n_groove said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    For those keeping score, 8 of the 10 states with the highest murder rates are run by repubs. I guess you can call it shatties versus shitties?
    It's actually 4/10 if you go by actual murders and not per capita/100 population.

    But why would you not look at data per capita? You can't compare events in different cities if you're not comparing by population (among other factors). 
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  • nicknyr15
    nicknyr15 Posts: 9,200
    tempo_n_groove said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    For those keeping score, 8 of the 10 states with the highest murder rates are run by repubs. I guess you can call it shatties versus shitties?
    It's actually 4/10 if you go by actual murders and not per capita/100 population.
    And let’s not take into account quality of life crimes as well. Random slashings, pushed into train tracks , getting feces thrown in your face. Let’s only pick and choose according to our political bias. 
    Nick you see that 26yo got popped for pushing that 83yo on the tracks in NYC?

    We live in crazy times...
    No! No! What do you mean!! Everything is fine here! Did you see Florida!! Or Texas!! 
  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,324
    oftenreading said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    For those keeping score, 8 of the 10 states with the highest murder rates are run by repubs. I guess you can call it shatties versus shitties?
    It's actually 4/10 if you go by actual murders and not per capita/100 population.

    But why would you not look at data per capita? You can't compare events in different cities if you're not comparing by population (among other factors). 
    It's the most murders by state though.  It's a whole different form of data if you go by per capita.  

    Per capita is better for smaller areas.
  • dankind
    dankind Posts: 20,841
    tempo_n_groove said:
    oftenreading said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    For those keeping score, 8 of the 10 states with the highest murder rates are run by repubs. I guess you can call it shatties versus shitties?
    It's actually 4/10 if you go by actual murders and not per capita/100 population.

    But why would you not look at data per capita? You can't compare events in different cities if you're not comparing by population (among other factors). 
    It's the most murders by state though.  It's a whole different form of data if you go by per capita.  

    Per capita is better for smaller areas.
    Crime statisticians have always used murder rates (i.e., per capita) as a benchmark to report homicide data per state or other municipality; total murders would be incredibly misleading.

    Murder rate data is simply more robust and thus more informative for law enforcement agencies, their budgets, etc. 
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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,449
    using per capita only when it suits your needs is a bit odd. 
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