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  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,778
    Jearlpam0925 said:
    brianlux said:
    cincybearcat said:
    Lerxst1992 said:
    Lerxst1992 said:
    “We should not only steer China-U.S. relations forward on the right track, but we should also shoulder our international responsibilities and strive for world peace and tranquility.”


    looks like President Xi wants a seat with Team Brandon.

    EU has ‘very reliable evidence’ China is considering military support for Russia



    And China taketh away
    Just can't trust China.  Not in the slightest.

    Not their leaders anyway.  A fascinating culture and, I'm told by friends who have been there, a great place to visit, but with a long history of corrupt leaders.  Same thing with Russia.  It's a damn shame.
    Definitely two places I still want to go to. And really, really wanted to get to Ukraine to dig up some roots soon. But unfortunately not looking to be in the cards for a while.

    I hope you get the chance to go some day.  Hoping for a free and rebuilt Ukraine some day! 
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  • Go Beavers
    Go Beavers Posts: 9,669
    Jearlpam0925 said:
    brianlux said:
    cincybearcat said:
    Lerxst1992 said:
    Lerxst1992 said:
    “We should not only steer China-U.S. relations forward on the right track, but we should also shoulder our international responsibilities and strive for world peace and tranquility.”


    looks like President Xi wants a seat with Team Brandon.

    EU has ‘very reliable evidence’ China is considering military support for Russia



    And China taketh away
    Just can't trust China.  Not in the slightest.

    Not their leaders anyway.  A fascinating culture and, I'm told by friends who have been there, a great place to visit, but with a long history of corrupt leaders.  Same thing with Russia.  It's a damn shame.
    Definitely two places I still want to go to. And really, really wanted to get to Ukraine to dig up some roots soon. But unfortunately not looking to be in the cards for a while.

    I got to go to the Soviet Union on a high school trip in 1987. Trippy indeed. If someone has to choose between St. Petersburg and Moscow, definitely go to St. Petersburg.
  • Annafalk
    Annafalk Sweden Posts: 4,004
    Lizard said:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4e1BndTE6Lg


    This speech was really good!
  • F Me In The Brain
    F Me In The Brain this knows everybody from other commets Posts: 31,960
    Go Beavers said:
    Jearlpam0925 said:
    brianlux said:
    cincybearcat said:
    Lerxst1992 said:
    Lerxst1992 said:
    “We should not only steer China-U.S. relations forward on the right track, but we should also shoulder our international responsibilities and strive for world peace and tranquility.”


    looks like President Xi wants a seat with Team Brandon.

    EU has ‘very reliable evidence’ China is considering military support for Russia



    And China taketh away
    Just can't trust China.  Not in the slightest.

    Not their leaders anyway.  A fascinating culture and, I'm told by friends who have been there, a great place to visit, but with a long history of corrupt leaders.  Same thing with Russia.  It's a damn shame.
    Definitely two places I still want to go to. And really, really wanted to get to Ukraine to dig up some roots soon. But unfortunately not looking to be in the cards for a while.

    I got to go to the Soviet Union on a high school trip in 1987. Trippy indeed. If someone has to choose between St. Petersburg and Moscow, definitely go to St. Petersburg.
    Been to St Pete.  The Winter Palace was a wonder to behold.  1992.  
    Have not been to Ukraine.  Would love to.  I did spend time in Estonia as they celebrated being free of the USSR.  
    Awful to think that Putin is trying to re-establish this.
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  • Pap
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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5INzBNKMmh8
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  • Hobbes
    Hobbes Pacific Northwest Posts: 6,438
    "We live for resistance"

    Kyiv calling: famous Clash anthem reborn as call to arms | Ukraine | The Guardian

    https://youtu.be/9guzUoTNxeE
  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 45,218
    wonder how this will work, its a gift article feature of my subscription....

    About two million people have stayed in Kyiv, a population galvanized by a newfound unity and its refusal to be cowed by Russian invaders.

    By Carlotta Gall

    Photographs by Ivor Prickett

    March 20, 2022

    KYIV, Ukraine — The historic center of Kyiv, usually bustling with tourists and souvenir stalls around its pastel-colored buildings and golden domed churches, is largely deserted these days. Shops and offices are closed, and the city, placed under curfew from 8 p.m., falls dark and silent at night.

    Nearly half the population left the city through the first weeks of war in a chaotic exodus that blocked the roads and swamped the central train station. But just as many people remained — an estimated two million. Some stayed because they did not have the means to leave, or a place to go to, but others did so from a sense of patriotism or a newfound defiance in the face of the Russian invasion.

    People were still out walking their dogs in a park by St. Andrew’s Church, above the Dnieper River on Sunday morning, even as the sound of heavy bombardment rolled like thunder from the northern suburbs of the city.

    “I don’t want to leave,” said Galina Sizikova, 48, an architect who was walking her husky near the central St. Sophia’s Cathedral. “I have a lot of opportunities to do something to help.” Her daughters were grown up and had gone to stay with relatives in Vienna and she had stayed behind with her dog, Avrora.


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  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 43,130
    I’m sure the Putin on the ritz apologists are celebrating this.

    https://www.cnn.com/2022/03/21/europe/borys-romanchenko-death-ukraine-intl/index.html
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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 40,024
    mickeyrat said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    mickeyrat said:
    and here I thought sonething major happened in Ukraine given the activity here. Silly me. I really should know better by now.
    how dare we talk about the guy who posted a video about the topic we are discussing! shame on us! 

    there was discussion on what he said?
    fill us in on what your acceptable discussion parameters are, and we'll.....probably continue discussing things. 
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  • Pap
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  • mrussel1
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    Pap said:

    Well Latvia, Lithuania, Estonia and Poland are all in NATO and all east of the Baltic.  1997 was 25 years ago.  What's your point?
  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 43,130
    edited March 2022
    Seems fitting. Gifted article. Hope it works.

    Opinion: The man known as ‘Putin’s brain’ envisions the splitting of Europe — and the fall of China


    On the eve of his murderous invasion, Russian President Vladimir Putin delivered a long and rambling discourse denying the existence of Ukraine and Ukrainians, a speech many Western analysts found strange and untethered. Strange, yes. Untethered, no. The analysis came directly from the works of a fascist prophet of maximal Russian empire named Aleksandr Dugin.

    Dugin’s intellectual influence over the Russian leader is well known to close students of the post-Soviet period, among whom Dugin, 60, is sometimes referred to as “Putin’s brain.” His work is also familiar to Europe’s “new right,” of which Dugin has been a leading figure for nearly three decades, and to America’s “alt-right.” Indeed, the Russian-born former wife of the white nationalist leader Richard Spencer, Nina Kouprianova, has translated some of Dugin’s work into English.

    But as the world watches with horror and disgust the indiscriminate bombing of Ukraine, a broader understanding is needed of Dugin’s deadly ideas. Russia has been running his playbook for the past 20 years, and it has brought us here, to the brink of another world war.





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  • Poncier
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    Halifax2TheMax said:
    I’m sure the Putin on the ritz apologists are celebrating this.

    https://www.cnn.com/2022/03/21/europe/borys-romanchenko-death-ukraine-intl/index.html
    But but but they're ridding Ukraine of Nazis
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  • mickeyrat
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    Poncier said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    I’m sure the Putin on the ritz apologists are celebrating this.

    https://www.cnn.com/2022/03/21/europe/borys-romanchenko-death-ukraine-intl/index.html
    But but but they're ridding Ukraine of Nazis

    nazis sooo sneaky, they elected a Jewish man to be Pres.......
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  • MayDay10
    MayDay10 Posts: 11,895
    Putin is vermin.  No better than a sewer rat.  It makes me ill thinking a US President kissed his ass and would side with him over our own intelligence agencies.
  • Bentleyspop
    Bentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 11,640
    MayDay10 said:
    Putin is vermin.  No better than a sewer rat.  It makes me ill thinking a US President kissed his ass and would side with him over our own intelligence agencies.
    Not just the TFG.
    There are plenty of people currently elected to public office that are siding with poo tin.
    Plenty of people not in office but working in govt, media, intelligence, etc who side with poo tin.

    These are not "good" americans
  • Halifax2TheMax
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    "I don't know why it would be putin on the ritz."
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  • Jearlpam0925
    Jearlpam0925 Deep South Philly Posts: 17,619
    Exactly why this has been so unsettling the entire time:


  • Lerxst1992
    Lerxst1992 Posts: 8,396
    Jearlpam0925 said:
    Exactly why this has been so unsettling the entire time:







    ?
  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 40,024
    Lerxst1992 said:
    Jearlpam0925 said:
    Exactly why this has been so unsettling the entire time:







    ?
    haha my first thought too. 
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