#46 President Joe Biden
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Yea, sure. All some democrat plot to interfere in the election and damage POOTWH because there was absolutely no reason to question the provenance of Hunter’s alleged laptop and the purported contents within. Fuck is this country fucked. And I encourage you to read the full article. A hint though, the story begins with a legally blind computer repair shop owner who couldn’t identify who dropped off the three laptops and ends with the alleged copies of the hard drives being handed over by Ruddy Ghouliani. Yup, no need to question that, just accept it as what it’s claimed to be. But seriously, look at the timeline and who’s involved.
Even today, the full story isn’t clear. Is the story straightforward — Mac Isaac obtained a laptop, thought it might be relevant to national politics and then found only one taker, Giuliani, for the material? Was the material reportedly circulating in Ukraine the same stuff? Nonexistent? Obtained from an iCloud hack independently? Did Guo learn about the laptop from Bannon, with mentions of the material in September following from there? It is of course always easy to ask infinite questions when you’re skeptical, but that the answers to this aren’t known now reinforces the reasons for skepticism 18 months ago.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/03/18/forgotten-and-ignored-context-emergence-hunter-biden-laptop-story/
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LOL, think funking place sometimes!
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Question: Do you honestly believe the mainstream media would have pursued the story if it hurt Biden?brianlux said:LOL, think funking place sometimes!
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They pursued it. The narrative that they didn’t is BS. Who’s the “mainstream” media? Faux is the most watched news network, WSJ is the largest distributed daily newspaper and con programming owns AM airwaves.bootlegger10 said:
Question: Do you honestly believe the mainstream media would have pursued the story if it hurt Biden?brianlux said:LOL, think funking place sometimes!09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;
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Every journalist should approach things with skepticism. But they investigate instead of just saying it was a Russian misinformation campaign. This is not about Hunter Biden to me, but a great example of why there is distrust of media.Halifax2TheMax said:Yea, sure. All some democrat plot to interfere in the election and damage POOTWH because there was absolutely no reason to question the provenance of Hunter’s alleged laptop and the purported contents within. Fuck is this country fucked. And I encourage you to read the full article. A hint though, the story begins with a legally blind computer repair shop owner who couldn’t identify who dropped off the three laptops and ends with the alleged copies of the hard drives being handed over by Ruddy Ghouliani. Yup, no need to question that, just accept it as what it’s claimed to be. But seriously, look at the timeline and who’s involved.
Even today, the full story isn’t clear. Is the story straightforward — Mac Isaac obtained a laptop, thought it might be relevant to national politics and then found only one taker, Giuliani, for the material? Was the material reportedly circulating in Ukraine the same stuff? Nonexistent? Obtained from an iCloud hack independently? Did Guo learn about the laptop from Bannon, with mentions of the material in September following from there? It is of course always easy to ask infinite questions when you’re skeptical, but that the answers to this aren’t known now reinforces the reasons for skepticism 18 months ago.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/03/18/forgotten-and-ignored-context-emergence-hunter-biden-laptop-story/
We should all expect more from all media. I'm not a liberal or a conservative, and I call out stupid stuff on all sides if I see it and care to mention it. I honestly believe that NBC, CNN, ABC, etc... do not investigate stories against liberals as hard as they would about conservatives. FoxNews is on the flip side of that. One day one side's voice will be too strong and that will be a bad thing for the US.0 -
Did you read the WaPo article I linked?bootlegger10 said:
Every journalist should approach things with skepticism. But they investigate instead of just saying it was a Russian misinformation campaign. This is not about Hunter Biden to me, but a great example of why there is distrust of media.Halifax2TheMax said:Yea, sure. All some democrat plot to interfere in the election and damage POOTWH because there was absolutely no reason to question the provenance of Hunter’s alleged laptop and the purported contents within. Fuck is this country fucked. And I encourage you to read the full article. A hint though, the story begins with a legally blind computer repair shop owner who couldn’t identify who dropped off the three laptops and ends with the alleged copies of the hard drives being handed over by Ruddy Ghouliani. Yup, no need to question that, just accept it as what it’s claimed to be. But seriously, look at the timeline and who’s involved.
Even today, the full story isn’t clear. Is the story straightforward — Mac Isaac obtained a laptop, thought it might be relevant to national politics and then found only one taker, Giuliani, for the material? Was the material reportedly circulating in Ukraine the same stuff? Nonexistent? Obtained from an iCloud hack independently? Did Guo learn about the laptop from Bannon, with mentions of the material in September following from there? It is of course always easy to ask infinite questions when you’re skeptical, but that the answers to this aren’t known now reinforces the reasons for skepticism 18 months ago.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/03/18/forgotten-and-ignored-context-emergence-hunter-biden-laptop-story/
We should all expect more from all media. I'm not a liberal or a conservative, and I call out stupid stuff on all sides if I see it and care to mention it. I honestly believe that NBC, CNN, ABC, etc... do not investigate stories against liberals as hard as they would about conservatives. FoxNews is on the flip side of that. One day one side's voice will be too strong and that will be a bad thing for the US.09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;
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Were the sexual assault allegations against candidate Biden investigated and reported upon by the mainstream media?bootlegger10 said:
Every journalist should approach things with skepticism. But they investigate instead of just saying it was a Russian misinformation campaign. This is not about Hunter Biden to me, but a great example of why there is distrust of media.Halifax2TheMax said:Yea, sure. All some democrat plot to interfere in the election and damage POOTWH because there was absolutely no reason to question the provenance of Hunter’s alleged laptop and the purported contents within. Fuck is this country fucked. And I encourage you to read the full article. A hint though, the story begins with a legally blind computer repair shop owner who couldn’t identify who dropped off the three laptops and ends with the alleged copies of the hard drives being handed over by Ruddy Ghouliani. Yup, no need to question that, just accept it as what it’s claimed to be. But seriously, look at the timeline and who’s involved.
Even today, the full story isn’t clear. Is the story straightforward — Mac Isaac obtained a laptop, thought it might be relevant to national politics and then found only one taker, Giuliani, for the material? Was the material reportedly circulating in Ukraine the same stuff? Nonexistent? Obtained from an iCloud hack independently? Did Guo learn about the laptop from Bannon, with mentions of the material in September following from there? It is of course always easy to ask infinite questions when you’re skeptical, but that the answers to this aren’t known now reinforces the reasons for skepticism 18 months ago.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/03/18/forgotten-and-ignored-context-emergence-hunter-biden-laptop-story/
We should all expect more from all media. I'm not a liberal or a conservative, and I call out stupid stuff on all sides if I see it and care to mention it. I honestly believe that NBC, CNN, ABC, etc... do not investigate stories against liberals as hard as they would about conservatives. FoxNews is on the flip side of that. One day one side's voice will be too strong and that will be a bad thing for the US.
Are you familiar with spy craft and spooks planting stories to drive a particular political outcome or sow seeds of dissent? Do you recall Judy Miller, the NYT and the selling of the Iraq War?09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;
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bootlegger10 said:
Question: Do you honestly believe the mainstream media would have pursued the story if it hurt Biden?brianlux said:LOL, think funking place sometimes!
I don't know. I read beyond the mainstream.
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Jesus christ of course they would.bootlegger10 said:
Question: Do you honestly believe the mainstream media would have pursued the story if it hurt Biden?brianlux said:LOL, think funking place sometimes!Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)
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All just a vast dem conspiracy to ruin POOTWH, sure. The Hunter Biden laptop not reported supporters on here act as if the laptop story broke when absolutely nothing else was going on or that it happened in a vacuum, devoid of anything else happening that was related. Hmmmmm, Ruddy Ghouliani, again. Maybe he could find Ron & Nicole’s killer?
https://www.businessinsider.com/yovanovitch-giuliani-was-trump-personal-dirt-digger-ukraine-disinformation-2022-3
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And we have a winner for the most ignorant statement of the day folks!Bentleyspop said:
First off he will NEVER respond to you.Hobbes said:
Can you please explain what it means to be an actual American "in the truest sense of the word" and what distinguishes "the real ones" from "the fake ones?"RoleModelsinBlood31 said:It doesn’t surprise me one bit that the folks on this board ate it all up. They ate up “Russian collusion.”They ate up that the hunter laptop was “Russian disinformation,” even though it made patently no sense whatsoever when all obvious info points to the guy being a mess who forgot he even brought his laptop to the store. They ate up any media narrative spit at them for the last 5 years. They’re currently eating up that our inflation is Russia’s or Covid’s fault, and that rising gas prices are Russia’s fault as well. Maybe some of it is our own fault? Maybe poor policy decisions by idiots we’ve elected have gotten us where we are? Some on here seriously think that there’s a Pee tape. Still. For real. Many folks (independents for sure, finally) are beginning to realize they’ve been taken for a ride and to not listen to what they’re being told. Anyone who still simply believes what they’re told after all that stuff above needs to have a reality check.Anyone with a functioning brain and the discipline to think for themselves knew trump was right when talking about being wire tapped, that his campaign was being spied on and once elected it continued, that folks were trying to take him down from the inside. Why would he make it up, when we all know how the rich and powerful take care of each other. They literally paid to have a bs dossier created and used it to get a warrant to spy on a campaign staffer. All of this stuff is verifiable and yet they willfully chose to believe a media narrative that simply didn’t make any sense.Who would be ok with an outsider like trump coming in to mess up their comfy lifestyle? It’s easy to see that those inside Washington want to stay in Washington, elected officials want to keep their jobs… both sides have their serious scummery, so the reasons to get rid of him ran deep. When trump said he was going to drain the swamp they went cookoo.The sad thing to me is that people actually believed it. They fell for the propaganda, the msm state run media.
all I can say about the hunter emails is that they obviously show exactly what we said they show, and his father is absolutely involved. None of this is a surprise, the only surprise is that the NYT actually had the balls to say it. Probably to save face and attempt to win back some of the lost readers of course. Will anything come of it or happen? Nope. The DOJ is full of insiders and no one wants to shake it up.
I have rising confidence that most Americans are actually Americans in the truest sense of the word. People are beginning to realize that there's an agenda being implemented against them by the very people they're supposed to be able to trust, the legacy media, their elected representatives, the plethora of bureaus and agencies, etc. The good news there is that Americans, the real ones, outnumber the the fake ones by a huge margin. The writing is on the wall for the fakes and it would behoove them to read it.
hopefully we eventually get to listen to Joey Softserve talk about this. He’ll talk about Beau and burn pits and cancer or something instead, but it’ll be fun to watch him forget what he’s doing as usual.
Second that's the 3rd rule in the QtRUmplican troll playbook."Drop some ignorant nonsense then don't respond to the responses ".
As to your question. "Actual Americans" are white and male and want America to return to the 1950s and in a perfect world return to the 1850s.
And these are real Americans....
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I can’t stand Trump and I voted for Biden. It doesn’t mean I have to accept media bias on both sides, or every liberal agenda item.brianlux said:Pearl Jam Trump fans unite!Post edited by bootlegger10 on0 -
Yes, it was a story about why they got it wrong back then.Halifax2TheMax said:
Did you read the WaPo article I linked?bootlegger10 said:
Every journalist should approach things with skepticism. But they investigate instead of just saying it was a Russian misinformation campaign. This is not about Hunter Biden to me, but a great example of why there is distrust of media.Halifax2TheMax said:Yea, sure. All some democrat plot to interfere in the election and damage POOTWH because there was absolutely no reason to question the provenance of Hunter’s alleged laptop and the purported contents within. Fuck is this country fucked. And I encourage you to read the full article. A hint though, the story begins with a legally blind computer repair shop owner who couldn’t identify who dropped off the three laptops and ends with the alleged copies of the hard drives being handed over by Ruddy Ghouliani. Yup, no need to question that, just accept it as what it’s claimed to be. But seriously, look at the timeline and who’s involved.
Even today, the full story isn’t clear. Is the story straightforward — Mac Isaac obtained a laptop, thought it might be relevant to national politics and then found only one taker, Giuliani, for the material? Was the material reportedly circulating in Ukraine the same stuff? Nonexistent? Obtained from an iCloud hack independently? Did Guo learn about the laptop from Bannon, with mentions of the material in September following from there? It is of course always easy to ask infinite questions when you’re skeptical, but that the answers to this aren’t known now reinforces the reasons for skepticism 18 months ago.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/03/18/forgotten-and-ignored-context-emergence-hunter-biden-laptop-story/
We should all expect more from all media. I'm not a liberal or a conservative, and I call out stupid stuff on all sides if I see it and care to mention it. I honestly believe that NBC, CNN, ABC, etc... do not investigate stories against liberals as hard as they would about conservatives. FoxNews is on the flip side of that. One day one side's voice will be too strong and that will be a bad thing for the US.0 -
They didn’t get it “wrong” back then. There were and still are way too many unknowns. What was the new NYT reporting that has everyone in a lather?bootlegger10 said:
Yes, it was a story about why they got it wrong back then.Halifax2TheMax said:
Did you read the WaPo article I linked?bootlegger10 said:
Every journalist should approach things with skepticism. But they investigate instead of just saying it was a Russian misinformation campaign. This is not about Hunter Biden to me, but a great example of why there is distrust of media.Halifax2TheMax said:Yea, sure. All some democrat plot to interfere in the election and damage POOTWH because there was absolutely no reason to question the provenance of Hunter’s alleged laptop and the purported contents within. Fuck is this country fucked. And I encourage you to read the full article. A hint though, the story begins with a legally blind computer repair shop owner who couldn’t identify who dropped off the three laptops and ends with the alleged copies of the hard drives being handed over by Ruddy Ghouliani. Yup, no need to question that, just accept it as what it’s claimed to be. But seriously, look at the timeline and who’s involved.
Even today, the full story isn’t clear. Is the story straightforward — Mac Isaac obtained a laptop, thought it might be relevant to national politics and then found only one taker, Giuliani, for the material? Was the material reportedly circulating in Ukraine the same stuff? Nonexistent? Obtained from an iCloud hack independently? Did Guo learn about the laptop from Bannon, with mentions of the material in September following from there? It is of course always easy to ask infinite questions when you’re skeptical, but that the answers to this aren’t known now reinforces the reasons for skepticism 18 months ago.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/03/18/forgotten-and-ignored-context-emergence-hunter-biden-laptop-story/
We should all expect more from all media. I'm not a liberal or a conservative, and I call out stupid stuff on all sides if I see it and care to mention it. I honestly believe that NBC, CNN, ABC, etc... do not investigate stories against liberals as hard as they would about conservatives. FoxNews is on the flip side of that. One day one side's voice will be too strong and that will be a bad thing for the US.
Certainly Faux News, NY Post, WSJ, Koch or Adelson’s estate are capable of investigative reporting? Why aren’t they busting this wide open and winning Pulitzers?09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;
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Only the liberal media can hold politicians accountable, apparently. SMFH.09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;
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I can’t stand Trump and I voted for Biden. It doesn’t mean I have to accept media bias on both sides, or every liberal agenda item.brianlux said:Pearl Jam Trump fans unite!
I can agree with that. I tend to follow the idea that "You can believe half of what you see and none of what you hear". I think the best we can do is be observant, and when we can't observe, read widely with a critical eye, listen carefully with a critical ear. And then hope you're in the right ball park.
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Jared Kushner, Trump's son in law, was actually in Trump's government. He was in charge of getting "peace in the middle east" lol. While in office he made over $500 million. After leaving office, he has received billions from the Saudis for his investment fund.
Ivanka Trump, Trump's daughter, was actually in Trump's government. While in office, she also made over $500 million. Her company, which she didn't divest from, received multiple fast tracked trademarks from China while her father was discussing trade deals with Xi Jinping.
https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2021/11/jared-kushner-affinity-saudi-arabia-investment
https://www.forbes.com/sites/tommybeer/2020/09/22/ivankas-trademark-requests-were-fast-tracked-in-china-after-trump-was-elected/?sh=7d0283701d60
You people want to talk about actual corruption in our government? Well there you go. That stuff actually happened and you ignored it. The media also largely ignored it because it was focused on all the other colossal screw ups of the Trump administration. It's not some stupid laptop from a private citizen (and, apparently a bad businessman) that was magically found weeks before the election. But go ahead, keep crying about Trump's loss from two years ago. Maybe one of these days you will get over it.
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What actual policy did VP Biden influence or change as it related to Ukraine while Hunter was on the board of Burisma?
I’d appreciate a credible link to actual policy or legitimate news reports. Considering how nefarious and well known this scandal is, there must be something in the public record, right? State Department docs released under FOIA? Repub congressional investigation? Records requested from someone somewhere? Maybe a lawsuit from a repub “think” tank?
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Yep. And nothing will be done about the actual corruption by high ranking government officials from the previous administration .Halifax2TheMax said:What actual policy did VP Biden influence or change as it related to Ukraine while Hunter was on the board of Burisma?
I’d appreciate a credible link to actual policy or legitimate news reports. Considering how nefarious and well known this scandal is, there must be something in the public record, right? State Department docs released under FOIA? Repub congressional investigation? Records requested from someone somewhere? Maybe a lawsuit from a repub “think” tank?
I look forward to two years of house repub hearings and investigation leaks, sprinkled with threats of impeachment beginning in January 2023.www.myspace.com0
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