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  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,837
    Solid move to ban Russian oil…it seems anyhow. How I wish we had a president that could communicate though. Seems like forever.
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  • myoung321
    myoung321 Posts: 2,855
    edited March 2022
    Solid move to ban Russian oil…it seems anyhow. How I wish we had a president that could communicate though. Seems like forever.
    I worked in the Oil & Gas industry mainly in Pipeline and Logistics for 30 years... recently retired from one of the biggest companies...If I mentioned the name, you'd know it..... 

    I can tell you without hesitation this is a BS move. In 30 years I never heard of 1 drop of Russian oil going to any refineries in the US. 

    Dealt with oil from many countries.... NEVER RUSSIA


    Total BS... 

    Post edited by myoung321 on
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  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,882
    myoung321 said:
    Solid move to ban Russian oil…it seems anyhow. How I wish we had a president that could communicate though. Seems like forever.
    I worked in the Oil & Gas industry mainly in Pipeline and Logistics for 30 years... recently retired.

    I can tell you without hesitation this is a BS move. In 30 years I never heard of 1 drop of Russian oil going to any refineries in the US. 


    Total BS... 

    It's optics.  But the pressure from both parties on the topic was hard to resist, particularly if it doesn't make a difference to our production.
  • myoung321
    myoung321 Posts: 2,855
    mrussel1 said:
    myoung321 said:
    Solid move to ban Russian oil…it seems anyhow. How I wish we had a president that could communicate though. Seems like forever.
    I worked in the Oil & Gas industry mainly in Pipeline and Logistics for 30 years... recently retired.

    I can tell you without hesitation this is a BS move. In 30 years I never heard of 1 drop of Russian oil going to any refineries in the US. 


    Total BS... 

    It's optics.  But the pressure from both parties on the topic was hard to resist, particularly if it doesn't make a difference to our production.
    It's greed....  no IFs about it...it makes zero difference in our production.
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  • myoung321
    myoung321 Posts: 2,855
    We're more worried about who supplies Europe with LNG... follow the money
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  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,882
    myoung321 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    myoung321 said:
    Solid move to ban Russian oil…it seems anyhow. How I wish we had a president that could communicate though. Seems like forever.
    I worked in the Oil & Gas industry mainly in Pipeline and Logistics for 30 years... recently retired.

    I can tell you without hesitation this is a BS move. In 30 years I never heard of 1 drop of Russian oil going to any refineries in the US. 


    Total BS... 

    It's optics.  But the pressure from both parties on the topic was hard to resist, particularly if it doesn't make a difference to our production.
    It's greed....  no IFs about it...it makes zero difference in our production.
    Greed by who? The price per barrel is set by the commodities market. 
  • lastexitlondon
    lastexitlondon Posts: 14,904
    Its us that will be fucked over here


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  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,277
    myoung321 said:
    Solid move to ban Russian oil…it seems anyhow. How I wish we had a president that could communicate though. Seems like forever.
    I worked in the Oil & Gas industry mainly in Pipeline and Logistics for 30 years... recently retired from one of the biggest companies...If I mentioned the name, you'd know it..... 

    I can tell you without hesitation this is a BS move. In 30 years I never heard of 1 drop of Russian oil going to any refineries in the US. 

    Dealt with oil from many countries.... NEVER RUSSIA


    Total BS... 

    So this is fake news? Includes oil to the strategic reserve, which wouldn't go to refineries. Although since some was released, I guess it will be.

    U.S. Imports from Russia of Crude Oil and Petroleum Products (Thousand Barrels) (eia.gov)

    Total Crude Oil and Products Imports from Russia (eia.gov)
    09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;

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  • myoung321
    myoung321 Posts: 2,855
    edited March 2022
    myoung321 said:
    Solid move to ban Russian oil…it seems anyhow. How I wish we had a president that could communicate though. Seems like forever.
    I worked in the Oil & Gas industry mainly in Pipeline and Logistics for 30 years... recently retired from one of the biggest companies...If I mentioned the name, you'd know it..... 

    I can tell you without hesitation this is a BS move. In 30 years I never heard of 1 drop of Russian oil going to any refineries in the US. 

    Dealt with oil from many countries.... NEVER RUSSIA


    Total BS... 

    So this is fake news? Includes oil to the strategic reserve, which wouldn't go to refineries. Although since some was released, I guess it will be.

    U.S. Imports from Russia of Crude Oil and Petroleum Products (Thousand Barrels) (eia.gov)

    Total Crude Oil and Products Imports from Russia (eia.gov)
    Those numbers prove my point... "Thousands of Barrels" 30 Thousand.. hahaha Pipelines that run 10k to 15k barrels per hour will think that's cute...

    We probably trade for those Russian barrels overseas to supply corporate and other assets in those parts of the world, when it saves money.. 
    Post edited by myoung321 on
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  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,204
    Shell Oil just bought Russian oil....big news a few days ago

    https://www.cnn.com/2022/03/08/energy/shell-russia-oil-ban/index.html
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  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,204
    myoung321 said:
    myoung321 said:
    Solid move to ban Russian oil…it seems anyhow. How I wish we had a president that could communicate though. Seems like forever.
    I worked in the Oil & Gas industry mainly in Pipeline and Logistics for 30 years... recently retired from one of the biggest companies...If I mentioned the name, you'd know it..... 

    I can tell you without hesitation this is a BS move. In 30 years I never heard of 1 drop of Russian oil going to any refineries in the US. 

    Dealt with oil from many countries.... NEVER RUSSIA


    Total BS... 

    So this is fake news? Includes oil to the strategic reserve, which wouldn't go to refineries. Although since some was released, I guess it will be.

    U.S. Imports from Russia of Crude Oil and Petroleum Products (Thousand Barrels) (eia.gov)

    Total Crude Oil and Products Imports from Russia (eia.gov)
    Those numbers prove my point... "Thousands of Barrels" 30 Thousand.. hahaha Pipelines that run 10k to 15k barrels per hour will think that's cute... 
    uh...you said no one buys 1 drop.  


    Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)
    The Golden Age is 2 months away. And guess what….. you’re gonna love it! (teskeinc 11.19.24)

    1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
    2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
    2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
    2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
    2020: Oakland, Oakland:  2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
    2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
    2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana; 2025: Pitt1, Pitt2
  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,490
    myoung321 said:
    myoung321 said:
    Solid move to ban Russian oil…it seems anyhow. How I wish we had a president that could communicate though. Seems like forever.
    I worked in the Oil & Gas industry mainly in Pipeline and Logistics for 30 years... recently retired from one of the biggest companies...If I mentioned the name, you'd know it..... 

    I can tell you without hesitation this is a BS move. In 30 years I never heard of 1 drop of Russian oil going to any refineries in the US. 

    Dealt with oil from many countries.... NEVER RUSSIA


    Total BS... 

    So this is fake news? Includes oil to the strategic reserve, which wouldn't go to refineries. Although since some was released, I guess it will be.

    U.S. Imports from Russia of Crude Oil and Petroleum Products (Thousand Barrels) (eia.gov)

    Total Crude Oil and Products Imports from Russia (eia.gov)
    Those numbers prove my point... "Thousands of Barrels" 30 Thousand.. hahaha Pipelines that run 10k to 15k barrels per hour will think that's cute... 
    well, I get your point, it's a drop in the bucket, but you did say "not one drop of russian oil". 
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  • myoung321
    myoung321 Posts: 2,855
    myoung321 said:
    myoung321 said:
    Solid move to ban Russian oil…it seems anyhow. How I wish we had a president that could communicate though. Seems like forever.
    I worked in the Oil & Gas industry mainly in Pipeline and Logistics for 30 years... recently retired from one of the biggest companies...If I mentioned the name, you'd know it..... 

    I can tell you without hesitation this is a BS move. In 30 years I never heard of 1 drop of Russian oil going to any refineries in the US. 

    Dealt with oil from many countries.... NEVER RUSSIA


    Total BS... 

    So this is fake news? Includes oil to the strategic reserve, which wouldn't go to refineries. Although since some was released, I guess it will be.

    U.S. Imports from Russia of Crude Oil and Petroleum Products (Thousand Barrels) (eia.gov)

    Total Crude Oil and Products Imports from Russia (eia.gov)
    Those numbers prove my point... "Thousands of Barrels" 30 Thousand.. hahaha Pipelines that run 10k to 15k barrels per hour will think that's cute... 
    uh...you said no one buys 1 drop.  


    never said, that,,,,, but I will say None is refined to make gasoline in the US
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  • myoung321
    myoung321 Posts: 2,855
    edited March 2022
    myoung321 said:
    myoung321 said:
    Solid move to ban Russian oil…it seems anyhow. How I wish we had a president that could communicate though. Seems like forever.
    I worked in the Oil & Gas industry mainly in Pipeline and Logistics for 30 years... recently retired from one of the biggest companies...If I mentioned the name, you'd know it..... 

    I can tell you without hesitation this is a BS move. In 30 years I never heard of 1 drop of Russian oil going to any refineries in the US. 

    Dealt with oil from many countries.... NEVER RUSSIA


    Total BS... 

    So this is fake news? Includes oil to the strategic reserve, which wouldn't go to refineries. Although since some was released, I guess it will be.

    U.S. Imports from Russia of Crude Oil and Petroleum Products (Thousand Barrels) (eia.gov)

    Total Crude Oil and Products Imports from Russia (eia.gov)
    Those numbers prove my point... "Thousands of Barrels" 30 Thousand.. hahaha Pipelines that run 10k to 15k barrels per hour will think that's cute... 
    well, I get your point, it's a drop in the bucket, but you did say "not one drop of russian oil". 
    I did say... "Russian oil going to any refineries"... 

    Refineries make actual GASOLINE and other products.. trading oil is not the same.. 


    I can only tell you what I saw personally in my 30 year 
    career with a major oil company's Pipeline and Logistics Dept. We controlled all US pipelines in and out of every refinery in the US for that Company ... 

    Post edited by myoung321 on
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  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,277
    myoung321 said:
    myoung321 said:
    myoung321 said:
    Solid move to ban Russian oil…it seems anyhow. How I wish we had a president that could communicate though. Seems like forever.
    I worked in the Oil & Gas industry mainly in Pipeline and Logistics for 30 years... recently retired from one of the biggest companies...If I mentioned the name, you'd know it..... 

    I can tell you without hesitation this is a BS move. In 30 years I never heard of 1 drop of Russian oil going to any refineries in the US. 

    Dealt with oil from many countries.... NEVER RUSSIA


    Total BS... 

    So this is fake news? Includes oil to the strategic reserve, which wouldn't go to refineries. Although since some was released, I guess it will be.

    U.S. Imports from Russia of Crude Oil and Petroleum Products (Thousand Barrels) (eia.gov)

    Total Crude Oil and Products Imports from Russia (eia.gov)
    Those numbers prove my point... "Thousands of Barrels" 30 Thousand.. hahaha Pipelines that run 10k to 15k barrels per hour will think that's cute... 
    uh...you said no one buys 1 drop.  


    never said, that,,,,, but I will say None is refined to make gasoline in the US
    December '21 shows almost 8 million barrels being purchased as "unfinished oil" and almost 3 million as "crude oil." If said oils are for the strategic reserve, then some of it was recently released and refined into gasoline. The chart below is in "thousands of barrels." Add three zeros to the number.

    Total Russian imports of petroleum products is 8% of US demand daily. Not significant but not without impact, minor as it may be. Not "total BS" as you posit.

    U.S. Imports from Russia (eia.gov)
    09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;

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  • dankind
    dankind Posts: 20,841
    Bottom line: Suspending US imports of Russian oil will hurt Putin and his war. Refining Russian oil in the US doesn’t put a single ruble more in Putin’s war coffers.

    Also, here’s a brief lesson on how trading markets work from Seth Klarman. 

    Seth Klarman tells a story about sardines disappearing from their traditional habitat off the Monterey, Calif., shores, causing commodity traders to bid the price of sardines up to soaring levels. Then, along comes a buyer who decides that he wants to treat himself to an expensive meal and actually starts eating the sardines. He immediately gets ill and tells the seller that the sardines were no good. The seller quickly responds, "You don't understand. These are not eating sardines; they are trading sardines!"

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  • JB16057
    JB16057 Posts: 1,269
    I know everyone here loves Fox News....


    MSNBC's Joy Reid: World paying attention to Ukraine because it's a 'White ... Christian nation'

    Joy Reid said, 'Let’s face it, the world is paying attention because this is happening in Europe'


  • Jearlpam0925
    Jearlpam0925 Deep South Philly Posts: 17,535
    JB16057 said:
    I know everyone here loves Fox News....


    MSNBC's Joy Reid: World paying attention to Ukraine because it's a 'White ... Christian nation'

    Joy Reid said, 'Let’s face it, the world is paying attention because this is happening in Europe'


    Yeah but what's your point from posting this? She's not necessarily wrong.
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,479
    JB16057 said:
    I know everyone here loves Fox News....


    MSNBC's Joy Reid: World paying attention to Ukraine because it's a 'White ... Christian nation'

    Joy Reid said, 'Let’s face it, the world is paying attention because this is happening in Europe'


    So, what are you saying?
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  • dankind
    dankind Posts: 20,841
    edited March 2022
    Two divisive opinions by two divisive people pretending to be journalists who are just shouting into their respective divisive echo chambers? 



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