#46 President Joe Biden

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  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 49,577
    JB16057 said:
    The only number acceptable to me is a number given with facts.

    See, you've boxed yourself into a corner and cannot figure a way out. It's tough defending deplorable behavior, isn't it?

    Go ahead, say "bigot" again. lol 
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  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 21,663
    JB16057 said:
    So every Trump voters falls into those 3 categories, eh? If your answer is yes, you are a bigot.

    Well....it's kind of hard to say that you support tRump without being in one of those categories
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  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 49,577
    JB16057 said:
    Patience is a virtue.....

    Here was my reply again, "The only number acceptable to me is a number given with facts."


    See, you've boxed yourself into a corner and cannot figure a way out. It's tough defending deplorable behavior, isn't it?

    Go ahead, say "bigot" again. lol 
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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 30,611
    JB16057 said:
    Patience is a virtue.....

    Here was my reply again, "The only number acceptable to me is a number given with facts."


    So even if we said 10, you'd challenge that until you had the names and the personal manifestos or statements of those individuals.  Hopefully you know better. 
  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 49,577
    mrussel1 said:
    So even if we said 10, you'd challenge that until you had the names and the personal manifestos or statements of those individuals.  Hopefully you know better. 
    It's what's called a disingenuous argument    tm
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  • BentleyspopBentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 11,216
    edited March 2022
    If being against racism makes me a bigot then yes I'm a bigot.
    If being against homophobia makes me a bigot then yes I'm a bigot
    If being against xenophobia makes me a bigot then yes I'm a bigot
    If being against misogynism makes me a bigot then yes I'm a bigot
    If being against liars makes me a bigot then yes I'm a bigot
    If being aagainst anti-semitism makes me a bigot then yes I'm a bigot
    If being against orange skinned people who want to be dictators makes me a bigot then yes I'm a bigot
  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 21,663
    Slugs for salt. 

    Perfect. 

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    2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
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    2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
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  • JB16057JB16057 Posts: 1,269
    If being against racism makes me a bigot then yes I'm a bigot.
    If being against homophobia makes me a bigot then yes I'm a bigot
    If being against xenophobia makes me a bigot then yes I'm a bigot
    If being against misogynism makes me a bigot then yes I'm a bigot
    If being against liars makes me a bigot then yes I'm a bigot
    If being aagainst anti-semitism makes me a bigot then yes I'm a bigot
    If being against orange skinned people who want to be dictators makes me a bigot then yes I'm a bigot
    Do you think all Trump voters are deplorable? That's what we are talking about here!

  • eddieceddiec Posts: 3,954
    JB16057 said:
    Patience is a virtue.....

    Here was my reply again, "The only number acceptable to me is a number given with facts."



    We'll put together a poll average. Whatever percentage of R's believe the election was stolen, well, that's your number.
  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,162
    #slugsforsalt. that's fucking genius. 
    "every society honours its live conformists and its dead troublemakers"




  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,162
    74M tacitly approved of tfg's  overt racism & misogyny. 
    correct. because they are so entrenched in their politics they'd vote for anyone with an R. that's US (and soon, Canadian) politics now. 
    "every society honours its live conformists and its dead troublemakers"




  • PoncierPoncier Posts: 17,687
    See, you've boxed yourself into a corner and cannot figure a way out. It's tough defending deplorable behavior, isn't it?

    Go ahead, say "bigot" again. lol 

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  • JB16057JB16057 Posts: 1,269
    correct. because they are so entrenched in their politics they'd vote for anyone with an R. that's US (and soon, Canadian) politics now. 
    Joe Biden has a decades-long habit of making overtly racist remarks, taking discriminatory positions and cavorting with known racists.


  • JB16057JB16057 Posts: 1,269
    correct. because they are so entrenched in their politics they'd vote for anyone with an R. that's US (and soon, Canadian) politics now. 

    In 2010, he warmly eulogized Sen. Robert Byrd, a former Exalted Cyclops in the Ku Klux Klan, saying he was “one of my mentors” and that “the Senate is a lesser place for his going.”

    In 2007, he referred to Barack Obama as “the first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean.”

    In 2006, he said, “You cannot go to a 7-Eleven or a Dunkin’ Donuts unless you have a slight Indian accent.”

    Way back in 1977, he said that forced busing to desegregate schools would cause his children to “grow up in a racial jungle.”


  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 49,577
    edited March 2022
    ^
    The disingenuousness is strong with this one.  

    Hey look! A google search found 4 questionable racist things Joe Biden said in the last 45 years. You can find 4 things per day on Donald Trump in the same timeframe. 


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  • BentleyspopBentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 11,216
    JB16057 said:
    Do you think all Trump voters are deplorable? That's what we are talking about here!

    Yes I do

    The Buddhists teach that support of evil in any way shape or form, which includes voting, makes one evil as well.
    Such that any support of racism, a racist, or racist policies including voting makes one a racist as well.
    And so and so on.

    You can throw whatever arguments you want at me. I know that in the long run I have made the right choice.
  • JB16057JB16057 Posts: 1,269
    ^
    The disingenuousness is strong with this one.  

    Hey look! A google search found 4 questionable racist things Joe Biden said in the last 45 years. You can find 4 things per day on Donald Trump in the same timeframe. 


    A racist is still a racist.....
  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 49,577
    JB16057 said:
    A racist is still a racist.....
    By that logic then, Donald Trump must really, really, really be racist then. AMIRITE!?!?!?
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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 30,611
    JB16057 said:

    In 2010, he warmly eulogized Sen. Robert Byrd, a former Exalted Cyclops in the Ku Klux Klan, saying he was “one of my mentors” and that “the Senate is a lesser place for his going.”

    In 2007, he referred to Barack Obama as “the first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean.”

    In 2006, he said, “You cannot go to a 7-Eleven or a Dunkin’ Donuts unless you have a slight Indian accent.”

    Way back in 1977, he said that forced busing to desegregate schools would cause his children to “grow up in a racial jungle.”


    Do you really want to have this discussion?  Are you fully prepared and understand these topics where you want to go toe to toe on them, starting with busing and moving onto the Robert Byrd and his repentance?  Do you understand the history of busing and desegregation?  Because it seems to me that you're just clipping shit out that you probably never studied.  
  • JB16057JB16057 Posts: 1,269
    By that logic then, Donald Trump must really, really, really be racist then. AMIRITE!?!?!?
    A racist is still a racist.....
  • JB16057JB16057 Posts: 1,269
    Lol...plenty of people that you can't identify.  I don't know of any and I've been here a long time.

    tRump voters are definitely made up of distinct groups
    1. The deplorables...people that were fired up due to tRump's anti-immigrant, anti-affirmative action stance.
    2. Ignorant blue collar workers: Fed up with the gov't or not they vote against their own self interests. Slugs for salt. They have been convinced that calling themselves GOP makes them richer and smarter.
    3. Diehard GOP....they will vote GOP no matter who is running
    Lol....... I can identify them.

    JB16057 said:
    Do you think all Trump voters are deplorable? That's what we are talking about here!

    Yes I do



  • JB16057JB16057 Posts: 1,269
    mrussel1 said:
    Do you really want to have this discussion?  Are you fully prepared and understand these topics where you want to go toe to toe on them, starting with busing and moving onto the Robert Byrd and his repentance?  Do you understand the history of busing and desegregation?  Because it seems to me that you're just clipping shit out that you probably never studied.  
    Yes. Let's dig into this. "You cannot go to a 7-Eleven or a Dunkin’ Donuts unless you have a slight Indian accent."

    Please tell me how this is not a racist remark......


  • JB16057JB16057 Posts: 1,269
    edited March 2022
    mrussel1 said:
    Do you really want to have this discussion?  Are you fully prepared and understand these topics where you want to go toe to toe on them, starting with busing and moving onto the Robert Byrd and his repentance?  Do you understand the history of busing and desegregation?  Because it seems to me that you're just clipping shit out that you probably never studied.  
    Do you know something about Obama that I am unaware of? "In 2007, he referred to Barack Obama as “the first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean.”"
  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 49,577
    We had a discussion recently about how there used to be Republicans here who could argue their points and have rational, yet very heated, discussions.

    Now? It's just this same disingenuous bullshit all the time. 
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  • JB16057JB16057 Posts: 1,269
    mrussel1 said:
    Do you really want to have this discussion?  Are you fully prepared and understand these topics where you want to go toe to toe on them, starting with busing and moving onto the Robert Byrd and his repentance?  Do you understand the history of busing and desegregation?  Because it seems to me that you're just clipping shit out that you probably never studied.  
    Maybe you should have this conversation with Kamala.... Remember when she called Biden out for racism..... and then went on a late night talk show and just laughed it off? "It was a debate...... hahahaha..."

  • JB16057JB16057 Posts: 1,269
    We had a discussion recently about how there used to be Republicans here who could argue their points and have rational, yet very heated, discussions.

    Now? It's just this same disingenuous bullshit all the time. 
    You want to talk about a rational discussion?
    You're the one personally attacking me! Kat already had to edit one of your posts today because you can't keep from name calling.

  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,162
    JB16057 said:
    Maybe you should have this conversation with Kamala.... Remember when she called Biden out for racism..... and then went on a late night talk show and just laughed it off? "It was a debate...... hahahaha..."

    are you seriously arguing the merits of voting for trump over biden because of....racism? 
    "every society honours its live conformists and its dead troublemakers"




  • JB16057JB16057 Posts: 1,269
    are you seriously arguing the merits of voting for trump over biden because of....racism? 
    I'm pointing out the hypocrisy. You'll call our Trump for his racism but you won't do the same for Biden.
  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 49,577
    JB16057 said:
    You want to talk about a rational discussion?
    You're the one personally attacking me! Kat already had to edit one of your posts today because you can't keep from name calling.

    Seriously? What did I say that upset you so much? Honestly don't know what you're talking about. If you are so upset about something, I'm sorry but wish you'd DM instead of running to a moderator. 


    Let's get back on track. What do you take issue with regarding Hillary's actual quote here? Seriously? And do you think any portion of Trump's base exhibits this behavior? If so, what percentage of them do, generally speaking. Curious to your response, if you'd like to have a reasonable conversation:

    “You know, to just be grossly generalistic, you could put half of Trump’s supporters into what I call the basket of deplorables. Right?” Clinton said. “The racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic, Islamaphobic—you name it. And unfortunately there are people like that. And he has lifted them up.”
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  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 49,577
    JB16057 said:
    I'm pointing out the hypocrisy. You'll call our Trump for his racism but you won't do the same for Biden.
    Trump exhibits racist behavior on a daily basis. Your own google research found less than five instances on Biden going back to the Ford administration. See the difference?
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