#46 President Joe Biden

JB16057 said:

The Juggler said:

JB16057 said:

jdasilvaf said:

I am glad/relieved Trump is no longer at the helm of a nuclear power. Unfortunately, I think Biden's timid/moderate style of politics is just going to disappoint (much like Obama did) and we will get another Trump term or from a way more intelligent/evil right wing populist if not in 2024, definitely in 2028. 

As for the "Dems were burning down our cities in 2020" narrative... it is patently false. Those of us who actually live in these cities can attest that. No city was burnt down, and protests were overwhelmingly peaceful and non-violent. The only ones who believe otherwise watch and listen to way too much scaremongering right wing media.

It is claimed that there was between $1-$2 billion worth of damage in these riots(most expensive riots in history). Did Fox new make that up?

I'd love for any of the folks making that disingenuous argument to show me pictures of the looters/rioters sportin' their Biden gear! Spoiler alert, they cannot produce such photos. 

You cannot address Hillary's actual quote, can you?

I am talking about your quote and the narrative that this message board pushes pull of hatred.

JB16057 said:

mrussel1 said:

JB16057 said:

mrussel1 said:

JB16057 said:

The Juggler said:

JB16057 said:

The Juggler said:

JB16057 said:

The Juggler said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

Bentleyspop said:

Poncier said:

Bentleyspop said:

Did someone say mushbrain?

https://twitter.com/thehill/status/1499071314224689155?t=i2PS9AiSTkF-TQ4ZVlbsCg&s=19

Just no sense of decorum or respect for the office of the Presidency.
Classless.

Why would they?
TFG didn't and still doesn't 
Their supporters certainly don't 
They're trash 

Some might say, “Deplorables.”

Once again, Hillary was absolutely correct about that. 

This is pure bigotry.

Nah. It's entirely accurate. 

Bigotry: obstinate or unreasonable attachment to a belief, opinion, or faction; in particular, prejudice against a person or people on the basis of their membership of a particular group.

How is bigotry OK?

It is 2022. You really want to regurgitate and relitigate why she accurately described those people as deplorable 6 years ago...while many of them are awaiting trial for what they did on 1/6? You for real?

How is bigotry OK? It goes hand in hand with racism.

Bigotry, Racism, Hatred.....

So wait, you're telling me that "many" of the 74 millions are on trial? Are you for real? A very tiny minority is more like it.

Remember when all of the Dems were burning down our cities in 2020?

Both sides have extreme morons but that does not justify bigotry.

What are you even talking about there?  In 2016, Hillary said 

“You know, to just be grossly generalistic, you could put half of Trump’s supporters into what I call the basket of deplorables. Right?” Clinton said. “The racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic, Islamaphobic—you name it. And unfortunately there are people like that. And he has lifted them up.” She said the other half of Trump’s supporters “feel that the government has let them down” and are “desperate for change.”

So what are you arguing?  Is it that the 50% number is too high?  I'm not sure it is, but I won't fight on that hill.  If you're saying that it's bigotry to insult people who are racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic, well then you are correct.  It's bigotry.  It's also bigotry to despise Nazis.  So what?  

You are comparing nazis with people that voted for Trump.

Can you say that there are any "good" people that identify as nazis?

Can you say that there are any "good" people that voted for Trump?

1. I don't know any Nazis, but I hate them.  Way to miss the point.

2. As Hillary even said, Trump's supporters "feel the gov't has them down".  There are also Trump supporters who vote solely on taxes, solely on abortion, and are less focused on who the actual president is.  I don't see them as 'deplorable'.  

But if disliking the group of people who are racist, sexist, homophobic makes me a bigot (by definition, it does), then I declare my bigotry towards those people, without shame.  Just like I do against neo-Nazis, Paleo-Nazis, Proud Boys, Three Percenters, etc. 

There are plenty of people on this message board that say that all Trump voters are deplorable which is bigotry. I give you credit for not being one of them.

Gern Blansten said:

JB16057 said:

mrussel1 said:

JB16057 said:

mrussel1 said:

JB16057 said:

The Juggler said:

JB16057 said:

The Juggler said:

JB16057 said:

The Juggler said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

Bentleyspop said:

Poncier said:

Bentleyspop said:

Did someone say mushbrain?

https://twitter.com/thehill/status/1499071314224689155?t=i2PS9AiSTkF-TQ4ZVlbsCg&s=19

Just no sense of decorum or respect for the office of the Presidency.
Classless.

Why would they?
TFG didn't and still doesn't 
Their supporters certainly don't 
They're trash 

Some might say, “Deplorables.”

Once again, Hillary was absolutely correct about that. 

This is pure bigotry.

Nah. It's entirely accurate. 

Bigotry: obstinate or unreasonable attachment to a belief, opinion, or faction; in particular, prejudice against a person or people on the basis of their membership of a particular group.

How is bigotry OK?

It is 2022. You really want to regurgitate and relitigate why she accurately described those people as deplorable 6 years ago...while many of them are awaiting trial for what they did on 1/6? You for real?

How is bigotry OK? It goes hand in hand with racism.

Bigotry, Racism, Hatred.....

So wait, you're telling me that "many" of the 74 millions are on trial? Are you for real? A very tiny minority is more like it.

Remember when all of the Dems were burning down our cities in 2020?

Both sides have extreme morons but that does not justify bigotry.

What are you even talking about there?  In 2016, Hillary said 

“You know, to just be grossly generalistic, you could put half of Trump’s supporters into what I call the basket of deplorables. Right?” Clinton said. “The racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic, Islamaphobic—you name it. And unfortunately there are people like that. And he has lifted them up.” She said the other half of Trump’s supporters “feel that the government has let them down” and are “desperate for change.”

So what are you arguing?  Is it that the 50% number is too high?  I'm not sure it is, but I won't fight on that hill.  If you're saying that it's bigotry to insult people who are racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic, well then you are correct.  It's bigotry.  It's also bigotry to despise Nazis.  So what?  

You are comparing nazis with people that voted for Trump.

Can you say that there are any "good" people that identify as nazis?

Can you say that there are any "good" people that voted for Trump?

1. I don't know any Nazis, but I hate them.  Way to miss the point.

2. As Hillary even said, Trump's supporters "feel the gov't has them down".  There are also Trump supporters who vote solely on taxes, solely on abortion, and are less focused on who the actual president is.  I don't see them as 'deplorable'.  

But if disliking the group of people who are racist, sexist, homophobic makes me a bigot (by definition, it does), then I declare my bigotry towards those people, without shame.  Just like I do against neo-Nazis, Paleo-Nazis, Proud Boys, Three Percenters, etc. 

There are plenty of people on this message board that say that all Trump voters are deplorable which is bigotry. I give you credit for not being one of them.

Lol...plenty of people that you can't identify.  I don't know of any and I've been here a long time.

tRump voters are definitely made up of distinct groups
1. The deplorables...people that were fired up due to tRump's anti-immigrant, anti-affirmative action stance.
2. Ignorant blue collar workers: Fed up with the gov't or not they vote against their own self interests. Slugs for salt. They have been convinced that calling themselves GOP makes them richer and smarter.
3. Diehard GOP....they will vote GOP no matter who is running

JB16057 said:

Gern Blansten said:

JB16057 said:

mrussel1 said:

JB16057 said:

mrussel1 said:

JB16057 said:

The Juggler said:

JB16057 said:

The Juggler said:

JB16057 said:

The Juggler said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

Bentleyspop said:

Poncier said:

Bentleyspop said:

Did someone say mushbrain?

https://twitter.com/thehill/status/1499071314224689155?t=i2PS9AiSTkF-TQ4ZVlbsCg&s=19

Just no sense of decorum or respect for the office of the Presidency.
Classless.

Why would they?
TFG didn't and still doesn't 
Their supporters certainly don't 
They're trash 

Some might say, “Deplorables.”

Once again, Hillary was absolutely correct about that. 

This is pure bigotry.

Nah. It's entirely accurate. 

Bigotry: obstinate or unreasonable attachment to a belief, opinion, or faction; in particular, prejudice against a person or people on the basis of their membership of a particular group.

How is bigotry OK?

It is 2022. You really want to regurgitate and relitigate why she accurately described those people as deplorable 6 years ago...while many of them are awaiting trial for what they did on 1/6? You for real?

How is bigotry OK? It goes hand in hand with racism.

Bigotry, Racism, Hatred.....

So wait, you're telling me that "many" of the 74 millions are on trial? Are you for real? A very tiny minority is more like it.

Remember when all of the Dems were burning down our cities in 2020?

Both sides have extreme morons but that does not justify bigotry.

What are you even talking about there?  In 2016, Hillary said 

“You know, to just be grossly generalistic, you could put half of Trump’s supporters into what I call the basket of deplorables. Right?” Clinton said. “The racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic, Islamaphobic—you name it. And unfortunately there are people like that. And he has lifted them up.” She said the other half of Trump’s supporters “feel that the government has let them down” and are “desperate for change.”

So what are you arguing?  Is it that the 50% number is too high?  I'm not sure it is, but I won't fight on that hill.  If you're saying that it's bigotry to insult people who are racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic, well then you are correct.  It's bigotry.  It's also bigotry to despise Nazis.  So what?  

You are comparing nazis with people that voted for Trump.

Can you say that there are any "good" people that identify as nazis?

Can you say that there are any "good" people that voted for Trump?

1. I don't know any Nazis, but I hate them.  Way to miss the point.

2. As Hillary even said, Trump's supporters "feel the gov't has them down".  There are also Trump supporters who vote solely on taxes, solely on abortion, and are less focused on who the actual president is.  I don't see them as 'deplorable'.  

But if disliking the group of people who are racist, sexist, homophobic makes me a bigot (by definition, it does), then I declare my bigotry towards those people, without shame.  Just like I do against neo-Nazis, Paleo-Nazis, Proud Boys, Three Percenters, etc. 

There are plenty of people on this message board that say that all Trump voters are deplorable which is bigotry. I give you credit for not being one of them.

Lol...plenty of people that you can't identify.  I don't know of any and I've been here a long time.

tRump voters are definitely made up of distinct groups
1. The deplorables...people that were fired up due to tRump's anti-immigrant, anti-affirmative action stance.
2. Ignorant blue collar workers: Fed up with the gov't or not they vote against their own self interests. Slugs for salt. They have been convinced that calling themselves GOP makes them richer and smarter.
3. Diehard GOP....they will vote GOP no matter who is running

So every Trump voters falls into those 3 categories, eh? If your answer is yes, you are a bigot.

JB16057 said:

The Juggler said:

JB16057 said:

The Juggler said:

JB16057 said:

The Juggler said:

JB16057 said:

jdasilvaf said:

I am glad/relieved Trump is no longer at the helm of a nuclear power. Unfortunately, I think Biden's timid/moderate style of politics is just going to disappoint (much like Obama did) and we will get another Trump term or from a way more intelligent/evil right wing populist if not in 2024, definitely in 2028. 

As for the "Dems were burning down our cities in 2020" narrative... it is patently false. Those of us who actually live in these cities can attest that. No city was burnt down, and protests were overwhelmingly peaceful and non-violent. The only ones who believe otherwise watch and listen to way too much scaremongering right wing media.

It is claimed that there was between $1-$2 billion worth of damage in these riots(most expensive riots in history). Did Fox new make that up?

I'd love for any of the folks making that disingenuous argument to show me pictures of the looters/rioters sportin' their Biden gear! Spoiler alert, they cannot produce such photos. 

You cannot address Hillary's actual quote, can you?

I am talking about your quote and the narrative that this message board pushes pull of hatred.

So you agree she was right I guess. lol

If you want to clump in 50% of a group of people without facts, that is bigotry, is it not?

What percentage would be acceptable to you? 

The only number acceptable to me is a number given with facts.

JB16057 said:

The Juggler said:

JB16057 said:

Gern Blansten said:

JB16057 said:

mrussel1 said:

JB16057 said:

mrussel1 said:

JB16057 said:

The Juggler said:

JB16057 said:

The Juggler said:

JB16057 said:

The Juggler said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

Bentleyspop said:

Poncier said:

Bentleyspop said:

Did someone say mushbrain?

https://twitter.com/thehill/status/1499071314224689155?t=i2PS9AiSTkF-TQ4ZVlbsCg&s=19

Just no sense of decorum or respect for the office of the Presidency.
Classless.

Why would they?
TFG didn't and still doesn't 
Their supporters certainly don't 
They're trash 

Some might say, “Deplorables.”

Once again, Hillary was absolutely correct about that. 

This is pure bigotry.

Nah. It's entirely accurate. 

Bigotry: obstinate or unreasonable attachment to a belief, opinion, or faction; in particular, prejudice against a person or people on the basis of their membership of a particular group.

How is bigotry OK?

It is 2022. You really want to regurgitate and relitigate why she accurately described those people as deplorable 6 years ago...while many of them are awaiting trial for what they did on 1/6? You for real?

How is bigotry OK? It goes hand in hand with racism.

Bigotry, Racism, Hatred.....

So wait, you're telling me that "many" of the 74 millions are on trial? Are you for real? A very tiny minority is more like it.

Remember when all of the Dems were burning down our cities in 2020?

Both sides have extreme morons but that does not justify bigotry.

What are you even talking about there?  In 2016, Hillary said 

“You know, to just be grossly generalistic, you could put half of Trump’s supporters into what I call the basket of deplorables. Right?” Clinton said. “The racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic, Islamaphobic—you name it. And unfortunately there are people like that. And he has lifted them up.” She said the other half of Trump’s supporters “feel that the government has let them down” and are “desperate for change.”

So what are you arguing?  Is it that the 50% number is too high?  I'm not sure it is, but I won't fight on that hill.  If you're saying that it's bigotry to insult people who are racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic, well then you are correct.  It's bigotry.  It's also bigotry to despise Nazis.  So what?  

You are comparing nazis with people that voted for Trump.

Can you say that there are any "good" people that identify as nazis?

Can you say that there are any "good" people that voted for Trump?

1. I don't know any Nazis, but I hate them.  Way to miss the point.

2. As Hillary even said, Trump's supporters "feel the gov't has them down".  There are also Trump supporters who vote solely on taxes, solely on abortion, and are less focused on who the actual president is.  I don't see them as 'deplorable'.  

But if disliking the group of people who are racist, sexist, homophobic makes me a bigot (by definition, it does), then I declare my bigotry towards those people, without shame.  Just like I do against neo-Nazis, Paleo-Nazis, Proud Boys, Three Percenters, etc. 

There are plenty of people on this message board that say that all Trump voters are deplorable which is bigotry. I give you credit for not being one of them.

Lol...plenty of people that you can't identify.  I don't know of any and I've been here a long time.

tRump voters are definitely made up of distinct groups
1. The deplorables...people that were fired up due to tRump's anti-immigrant, anti-affirmative action stance.
2. Ignorant blue collar workers: Fed up with the gov't or not they vote against their own self interests. Slugs for salt. They have been convinced that calling themselves GOP makes them richer and smarter.
3. Diehard GOP....they will vote GOP no matter who is running

So every Trump voters falls into those 3 categories, eh? If your answer is yes, you are a bigot.

What percentage of Trump's base would you be comfortable with labeling as deplorable? 0? 

Totally do not expect a real answer, but figured I'd try one more time. 

Patience is a virtue.....

Here was my reply again, "The only number acceptable to me is a number given with facts."

mrussel1 said:

JB16057 said:

The Juggler said:

JB16057 said:

Gern Blansten said:

JB16057 said:

mrussel1 said:

JB16057 said:

mrussel1 said:

JB16057 said:

The Juggler said:

JB16057 said:

The Juggler said:

JB16057 said:

The Juggler said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

Bentleyspop said:

Poncier said:

Bentleyspop said:

Did someone say mushbrain?

https://twitter.com/thehill/status/1499071314224689155?t=i2PS9AiSTkF-TQ4ZVlbsCg&s=19

Just no sense of decorum or respect for the office of the Presidency.
Classless.

Why would they?
TFG didn't and still doesn't 
Their supporters certainly don't 
They're trash 

Some might say, “Deplorables.”

Once again, Hillary was absolutely correct about that. 

This is pure bigotry.

Nah. It's entirely accurate. 

Bigotry: obstinate or unreasonable attachment to a belief, opinion, or faction; in particular, prejudice against a person or people on the basis of their membership of a particular group.

How is bigotry OK?

It is 2022. You really want to regurgitate and relitigate why she accurately described those people as deplorable 6 years ago...while many of them are awaiting trial for what they did on 1/6? You for real?

How is bigotry OK? It goes hand in hand with racism.

Bigotry, Racism, Hatred.....

So wait, you're telling me that "many" of the 74 millions are on trial? Are you for real? A very tiny minority is more like it.

Remember when all of the Dems were burning down our cities in 2020?

Both sides have extreme morons but that does not justify bigotry.

What are you even talking about there?  In 2016, Hillary said 

“You know, to just be grossly generalistic, you could put half of Trump’s supporters into what I call the basket of deplorables. Right?” Clinton said. “The racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic, Islamaphobic—you name it. And unfortunately there are people like that. And he has lifted them up.” She said the other half of Trump’s supporters “feel that the government has let them down” and are “desperate for change.”

So what are you arguing?  Is it that the 50% number is too high?  I'm not sure it is, but I won't fight on that hill.  If you're saying that it's bigotry to insult people who are racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic, well then you are correct.  It's bigotry.  It's also bigotry to despise Nazis.  So what?  

You are comparing nazis with people that voted for Trump.

Can you say that there are any "good" people that identify as nazis?

Can you say that there are any "good" people that voted for Trump?

1. I don't know any Nazis, but I hate them.  Way to miss the point.

2. As Hillary even said, Trump's supporters "feel the gov't has them down".  There are also Trump supporters who vote solely on taxes, solely on abortion, and are less focused on who the actual president is.  I don't see them as 'deplorable'.  

But if disliking the group of people who are racist, sexist, homophobic makes me a bigot (by definition, it does), then I declare my bigotry towards those people, without shame.  Just like I do against neo-Nazis, Paleo-Nazis, Proud Boys, Three Percenters, etc. 

There are plenty of people on this message board that say that all Trump voters are deplorable which is bigotry. I give you credit for not being one of them.

Lol...plenty of people that you can't identify.  I don't know of any and I've been here a long time.

tRump voters are definitely made up of distinct groups
1. The deplorables...people that were fired up due to tRump's anti-immigrant, anti-affirmative action stance.
2. Ignorant blue collar workers: Fed up with the gov't or not they vote against their own self interests. Slugs for salt. They have been convinced that calling themselves GOP makes them richer and smarter.
3. Diehard GOP....they will vote GOP no matter who is running

So every Trump voters falls into those 3 categories, eh? If your answer is yes, you are a bigot.

What percentage of Trump's base would you be comfortable with labeling as deplorable? 0? 

Totally do not expect a real answer, but figured I'd try one more time. 

Patience is a virtue.....

Here was my reply again, "The only number acceptable to me is a number given with facts."

So even if we said 10, you'd challenge that until you had the names and the personal manifestos or statements of those individuals.  Hopefully you know better. 

Merkin Baller said:

Gern Blansten said:

JB16057 said:

mrussel1 said:

JB16057 said:

mrussel1 said:

JB16057 said:

The Juggler said:

JB16057 said:

The Juggler said:

JB16057 said:

The Juggler said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

Bentleyspop said:

Poncier said:

Bentleyspop said:

Did someone say mushbrain?

https://twitter.com/thehill/status/1499071314224689155?t=i2PS9AiSTkF-TQ4ZVlbsCg&s=19

Just no sense of decorum or respect for the office of the Presidency.
Classless.

Why would they?
TFG didn't and still doesn't 
Their supporters certainly don't 
They're trash 

Some might say, “Deplorables.”

Once again, Hillary was absolutely correct about that. 

This is pure bigotry.

Nah. It's entirely accurate. 

Bigotry: obstinate or unreasonable attachment to a belief, opinion, or faction; in particular, prejudice against a person or people on the basis of their membership of a particular group.

How is bigotry OK?

It is 2022. You really want to regurgitate and relitigate why she accurately described those people as deplorable 6 years ago...while many of them are awaiting trial for what they did on 1/6? You for real?

How is bigotry OK? It goes hand in hand with racism.

Bigotry, Racism, Hatred.....

So wait, you're telling me that "many" of the 74 millions are on trial? Are you for real? A very tiny minority is more like it.

Remember when all of the Dems were burning down our cities in 2020?

Both sides have extreme morons but that does not justify bigotry.

What are you even talking about there?  In 2016, Hillary said 

“You know, to just be grossly generalistic, you could put half of Trump’s supporters into what I call the basket of deplorables. Right?” Clinton said. “The racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic, Islamaphobic—you name it. And unfortunately there are people like that. And he has lifted them up.” She said the other half of Trump’s supporters “feel that the government has let them down” and are “desperate for change.”

So what are you arguing?  Is it that the 50% number is too high?  I'm not sure it is, but I won't fight on that hill.  If you're saying that it's bigotry to insult people who are racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic, well then you are correct.  It's bigotry.  It's also bigotry to despise Nazis.  So what?  

You are comparing nazis with people that voted for Trump.

Can you say that there are any "good" people that identify as nazis?

Can you say that there are any "good" people that voted for Trump?

1. I don't know any Nazis, but I hate them.  Way to miss the point.

2. As Hillary even said, Trump's supporters "feel the gov't has them down".  There are also Trump supporters who vote solely on taxes, solely on abortion, and are less focused on who the actual president is.  I don't see them as 'deplorable'.  

But if disliking the group of people who are racist, sexist, homophobic makes me a bigot (by definition, it does), then I declare my bigotry towards those people, without shame.  Just like I do against neo-Nazis, Paleo-Nazis, Proud Boys, Three Percenters, etc. 

There are plenty of people on this message board that say that all Trump voters are deplorable which is bigotry. I give you credit for not being one of them.

Lol...plenty of people that you can't identify.  I don't know of any and I've been here a long time.

tRump voters are definitely made up of distinct groups
1. The deplorables...people that were fired up due to tRump's anti-immigrant, anti-affirmative action stance.
2. Ignorant blue collar workers: Fed up with the gov't or not they vote against their own self interests. Slugs for salt. They have been convinced that calling themselves GOP makes them richer and smarter.
3. Diehard GOP....they will vote GOP no matter who is running

Slugs for salt. 

Perfect.