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  • Poncier
    Poncier Posts: 17,882

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  • tbergs
    tbergs Posts: 10,401
    What's hilarious is that BMI is so bloody restrictive and not really based in any reality. In high school, I was 185 pounds. 6 feet tall. a freaking rail. zero belly. according to BMI, that's overweight. I barely had an ounce of fat on me. it's ludicrous. if you aren't a marathon runner, you are considered fat. 
    No that's good now.  BMI says 6'0" tall and 220 I believe is correct.
    I did it using the CDC's BMI calculator. 
    I just looked at that.  136-185 is healthy?  136 is healthy at 6'0"?!?  what the hell do you do?  Run marathons and eat nothing but kale?

    My doctor has a chart and it says 220 is goof for 6'0".
    As someone who is 5'11" and 170, adding 40 pounds would definitely make me feel fat so that 220 seems like a stretch not to be overweight. And while I may not eat only Kale or run at all, I don't eat meat.
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • Poncier
    Poncier Posts: 17,882
    I always remember the "standard" as being 6' and 180 lbs., so 220 at 6' would definitely be heavy. Of course it all depends on muscle mass and fat content. Not all 220's are created equal.
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  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    Poncier said:
    I always remember the "standard" as being 6' and 180 lbs., so 220 at 6' would definitely be heavy. Of course it all depends on muscle mass and fat content. Not all 220's are created equal.
    Yes.  When I've been about 190, I look emaciated.  200 is thin for me.  Legal weed in Virginia has caused some late night weight gain. 
  • Going into the pandemic I was weighing in at 219... WAY too heavy for 5'7". 

    After 2 years of better eating habits and a ton of exercise I'm down to 170... I'm trying to get down to at least 164 before my 45th birthday in April, then i will have lost 25% of what I weighed 2 years ago... we'll see if I can reach 159 after that, which the BMI says I need to be to *not* be considered overweight. 

  • Bmi is bollocks
    .it doesnt  allow for muscle  or boobs in  woman.  What if you are a tiny woman with  massive boobs(genetics not fat). In uk bmi is being  abolished  soon as its so very incorrect


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  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    Bmi is bollocks
    .it doesnt  allow for muscle  or boobs in  woman.  What if you are a tiny woman with  massive boobs(genetics not fat). In uk bmi is being  abolished  soon as its so very incorrect
    It also doesn't account for giant schlongs, so this is very unfair and typical of the liberal media who generally have tiny peckers. 
  • True  i often wonder  if my wang tipped me over


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  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    edited February 2022
    True  i often wonder  if my wang tipped me over
    It's a curse, just like giant boobs on tiny women. 
  • Its a cross i will  gladly bare


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  • Poncier
    Poncier Posts: 17,882
      What if you are a tiny woman with  massive boobs
    Then I'm buying dinner
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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,473
    Poncier said:
    I always remember the "standard" as being 6' and 180 lbs., so 220 at 6' would definitely be heavy. Of course it all depends on muscle mass and fat content. Not all 220's are created equal.
    I realized this after following MMA. You can have a guy who is 5'10" and be in the featherweight division (145) and the same height guy be in the welterweight (170) or heavier divisions, with similar muscle tones; they are just built different. 
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  • Poncier said:
      What if you are a tiny woman with  massive boobs
    Then I'm buying dinner
    The lord works in mysterious  ways
     


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  • Poncier said:
    I always remember the "standard" as being 6' and 180 lbs., so 220 at 6' would definitely be heavy. Of course it all depends on muscle mass and fat content. Not all 220's are created equal.
    I realized this after following MMA. You can have a guy who is 5'10" and be in the featherweight division (145) and the same height guy be in the welterweight (170) or heavier divisions, with similar muscle tones; they are just built different. 
    Exactly  100lb of muscle and 100lb of fat are judged equal. Utter rubbish


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  • mrussel1 said:
    OnWis97 said:
    Yeah...it's pretty much over for most people. This little dip is seems to have created some complacency.

    https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/cdc-masks-cdc-expected-update-mask-guidance-early-week-rcna16331

    Vaccines worked against the original Covid and the Delta. Not so much now. 28% with the booster? I'd be more disappointed if it mattered. I don't regret getting my three shots but I'm not sure there's a point in getting more...is the chance of myocarditis higher than the chance the next vax helps? Probably not, but vaccines are no longer the solution we hoped. They probably helped flatten the curve and keep some symptoms less severe.

    Now?  Now we're moving into "time to live with it." Masks are done.* Distancing is done. 

    *Mandates, anyway. A few weirdos (myself included) will still wear them in some situations. But the bottom line is, we're caving to fatigue. And the truth (masks don't make a difference) is always convenient in America.
    Huh? The vaccine is very effective with Omicron as well. 
    it's just maddening to read this shit over and over and over. it's still highly effective against severe outcomes. but yes, you might get the sniffles! oh no! 
    I was sick for one day.  ONE.  The vaccine works.

    I know other people not vaccinated that got sick recently as I did and were out for weeks.
    This... exactly.  And I hate being sick so I can't be more thankful for the vaccine.  No I didn't feel 100% but it was nothing.  My son was J&J vaxed (single, in the summer) and no booster.  He got the Cron and was sick for 4 days, two of them being pretty intense.  The vax and booster works, it helps.  
    Show me the research.
    I know you're joking but isn't the easy answer to show hospitalizations and deaths of vaxed and unvaxed??  

    That should be the proof?
    We're almost to the two full year mark and will be entering into the third year of this nonsense soon. If you (general you) haven't figured it out by now with all of the information that is readily, publicly available, I don't know what to tell you (general you).
    Huh?  I was asking if the easy answer to "show me the research" was hospitalizations?  I don't know of other research that shows vaccinations work or don't that is easier to understand than that.
    Re-read what I posted. Hospitalization, deaths, ICU, long covid data, etc. is readily available in the public domain. If you’re (general you) are still questioning the efficacy of vaccines, boosters and the potential of masks/face coverings over nada, then I don’t know what to tell you (general you).
    I agreed with vaccinations and their efficacy so I have zero idea what you are talking about.  I agreed with it about 3 posts earlier to yours.

    I do agree with what they are saying about the inefficiency of gators and cloth masks. So again, I don't know what you are saying?  A N95 works best is all I keep reading and hearing.

    Third I was asking you(general you) if showing the non believers that hospital rates among the vaxxed and unvaxxed was the best proof which I believe is the best measuring stick to show people.

    I am completely baffled at your angle towards me.  If I have shown anything against the science or the professionals please show me.  I made the point about the masks and what should be worn so I don't know what else you read or maybe you are confusing me w somebody else?
    Dude, you need to relax. The "general you" was/is directed toward those that are still questioning EVERYTHING despite 2 years, going on three, of this nonsense. And all the data one needs is readily available, including the deaths/hospitalization rates you pointed out. Even gaiters and cloth masks can have an impact, slightly/minimally/ a half percent? better than nothing. But here we are, still questioning the efficacy of face coverings (not you, me but others) Its the others my ire is aimed at. The lack of critical thinking skills, combined with social media, will be the death of Western Democracy.

    "Show me the research" comment that I directed at mrussel is what some on here are still thinking, FFS.
    Sorry, You confuse me sometimes...  This was one of them...  

    FFS indeed...
    What did you miss about "general you" versus "you?" I didn't imply "you." Regardless, no problemo, its not personal, no biggie. It happens. Would it help if I posted a tweet or a meme instead? Just kidding. /s or is it s/?

    And my FFS is directed at the bold. And you don't fall into that category. Or do you?
    I took General you to mean me.  I've never seen anyone use the term General You before.  Honest.  If you would have said General Population Id have gotten the gest right away. 

    Yeah the sarcastic text gets lost verrrry easy.

    I knew FFS was a joke, that one I got!
    My bad then as I assumed since you’ve been on here long enough and there has been previous examples of posters using the “you” versus “general you” and having to clarify. I didn’t study English composition well enough to know what the correct combination of words and punctuation should be used to make the writer’s inference/reference clear and understood in this instance. I checked out of English around the time of Shakespeare and A Tale of Two Cities.

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  • OnWis97
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    True  i often wonder  if my wang tipped me over
    That happened to me once. Four stitches on my forehead.
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  • OnWis97 said:
    True  i often wonder  if my wang tipped me over
    That happened to me once. Four stitches on my forehead.
    You got tipped over going for Lastexits wang?  Cheeky.
  • Poncier said:
    mrussel1 said:
    OnWis97 said:
    Yeah...it's pretty much over for most people. This little dip is seems to have created some complacency.

    https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/cdc-masks-cdc-expected-update-mask-guidance-early-week-rcna16331

    Vaccines worked against the original Covid and the Delta. Not so much now. 28% with the booster? I'd be more disappointed if it mattered. I don't regret getting my three shots but I'm not sure there's a point in getting more...is the chance of myocarditis higher than the chance the next vax helps? Probably not, but vaccines are no longer the solution we hoped. They probably helped flatten the curve and keep some symptoms less severe.

    Now?  Now we're moving into "time to live with it." Masks are done.* Distancing is done. 

    *Mandates, anyway. A few weirdos (myself included) will still wear them in some situations. But the bottom line is, we're caving to fatigue. And the truth (masks don't make a difference) is always convenient in America.
    Huh? The vaccine is very effective with Omicron as well. 
    it's just maddening to read this shit over and over and over. it's still highly effective against severe outcomes. but yes, you might get the sniffles! oh no! 
    I was sick for one day.  ONE.  The vaccine works.

    I know other people not vaccinated that got sick recently as I did and were out for weeks.
    This... exactly.  And I hate being sick so I can't be more thankful for the vaccine.  No I didn't feel 100% but it was nothing.  My son was J&J vaxed (single, in the summer) and no booster.  He got the Cron and was sick for 4 days, two of them being pretty intense.  The vax and booster works, it helps.  
    Show me the research.
    I know you're joking but isn't the easy answer to show hospitalizations and deaths of vaxed and unvaxed??  

    That should be the proof?
    We're almost to the two full year mark and will be entering into the third year of this nonsense soon. If you (general you) haven't figured it out by now with all of the information that is readily, publicly available, I don't know what to tell you (general you).
    Huh?  I was asking if the easy answer to "show me the research" was hospitalizations?  I don't know of other research that shows vaccinations work or don't that is easier to understand than that.
    Re-read what I posted. Hospitalization, deaths, ICU, long covid data, etc. is readily available in the public domain. If you’re (general you) are still questioning the efficacy of vaccines, boosters and the potential of masks/face coverings over nada, then I don’t know what to tell you (general you).
    I agreed with vaccinations and their efficacy so I have zero idea what you are talking about.  I agreed with it about 3 posts earlier to yours.

    I do agree with what they are saying about the inefficiency of gators and cloth masks. So again, I don't know what you are saying?  A N95 works best is all I keep reading and hearing.

    Third I was asking you(general you) if showing the non believers that hospital rates among the vaxxed and unvaxxed was the best proof which I believe is the best measuring stick to show people.

    I am completely baffled at your angle towards me.  If I have shown anything against the science or the professionals please show me.  I made the point about the masks and what should be worn so I don't know what else you read or maybe you are confusing me w somebody else?
    I know it's confusing, but he's actually agreeing with you. 
    .  I don't speak Fax to well I guess.
    In order to speak it, you'd first have to change your name to "Tempo-ral Lobe N Groove to The Hits", then pledge your eternal hatred of POOTYTANGWHOUSE or whatever he calls him.
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  • dankind
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    mrussel1 said:
    OnWis97 said:
    Yeah...it's pretty much over for most people. This little dip is seems to have created some complacency.

    https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/cdc-masks-cdc-expected-update-mask-guidance-early-week-rcna16331

    Vaccines worked against the original Covid and the Delta. Not so much now. 28% with the booster? I'd be more disappointed if it mattered. I don't regret getting my three shots but I'm not sure there's a point in getting more...is the chance of myocarditis higher than the chance the next vax helps? Probably not, but vaccines are no longer the solution we hoped. They probably helped flatten the curve and keep some symptoms less severe.

    Now?  Now we're moving into "time to live with it." Masks are done.* Distancing is done. 

    *Mandates, anyway. A few weirdos (myself included) will still wear them in some situations. But the bottom line is, we're caving to fatigue. And the truth (masks don't make a difference) is always convenient in America.
    Huh? The vaccine is very effective with Omicron as well. 
    it's just maddening to read this shit over and over and over. it's still highly effective against severe outcomes. but yes, you might get the sniffles! oh no! 
    I was sick for one day.  ONE.  The vaccine works.

    I know other people not vaccinated that got sick recently as I did and were out for weeks.
    This... exactly.  And I hate being sick so I can't be more thankful for the vaccine.  No I didn't feel 100% but it was nothing.  My son was J&J vaxed (single, in the summer) and no booster.  He got the Cron and was sick for 4 days, two of them being pretty intense.  The vax and booster works, it helps.  
    Show me the research.
    I know you're joking but isn't the easy answer to show hospitalizations and deaths of vaxed and unvaxed??  

    That should be the proof?
    We're almost to the two full year mark and will be entering into the third year of this nonsense soon. If you (general you) haven't figured it out by now with all of the information that is readily, publicly available, I don't know what to tell you (general you).
    Huh?  I was asking if the easy answer to "show me the research" was hospitalizations?  I don't know of other research that shows vaccinations work or don't that is easier to understand than that.
    Re-read what I posted. Hospitalization, deaths, ICU, long covid data, etc. is readily available in the public domain. If you’re (general you) are still questioning the efficacy of vaccines, boosters and the potential of masks/face coverings over nada, then I don’t know what to tell you (general you).
    I agreed with vaccinations and their efficacy so I have zero idea what you are talking about.  I agreed with it about 3 posts earlier to yours.

    I do agree with what they are saying about the inefficiency of gators and cloth masks. So again, I don't know what you are saying?  A N95 works best is all I keep reading and hearing.

    Third I was asking you(general you) if showing the non believers that hospital rates among the vaxxed and unvaxxed was the best proof which I believe is the best measuring stick to show people.

    I am completely baffled at your angle towards me.  If I have shown anything against the science or the professionals please show me.  I made the point about the masks and what should be worn so I don't know what else you read or maybe you are confusing me w somebody else?
    Dude, you need to relax. The "general you" was/is directed toward those that are still questioning EVERYTHING despite 2 years, going on three, of this nonsense. And all the data one needs is readily available, including the deaths/hospitalization rates you pointed out. Even gaiters and cloth masks can have an impact, slightly/minimally/ a half percent? better than nothing. But here we are, still questioning the efficacy of face coverings (not you, me but others) Its the others my ire is aimed at. The lack of critical thinking skills, combined with social media, will be the death of Western Democracy.

    "Show me the research" comment that I directed at mrussel is what some on here are still thinking, FFS.
    Sorry, You confuse me sometimes...  This was one of them...  

    FFS indeed...
    What did you miss about "general you" versus "you?" I didn't imply "you." Regardless, no problemo, its not personal, no biggie. It happens. Would it help if I posted a tweet or a meme instead? Just kidding. /s or is it s/?

    And my FFS is directed at the bold. And you don't fall into that category. Or do you?
    I took General you to mean me.  I've never seen anyone use the term General You before.  Honest.  If you would have said General Population Id have gotten the gest right away. 

    Yeah the sarcastic text gets lost verrrry easy.

    I knew FFS was a joke, that one I got!
    My bad then as I assumed since you’ve been on here long enough and there has been previous examples of posters using the “you” versus “general you” and having to clarify. I didn’t study English composition well enough to know what the correct combination of words and punctuation should be used to make the writer’s inference/reference clear and understood in this instance. I checked out of English around the time of Shakespeare and A Tale of Two Cities.

    Anyone know an editor?

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  • static111
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    mrussel1 said:
    Bmi is bollocks
    .it doesnt  allow for muscle  or boobs in  woman.  What if you are a tiny woman with  massive boobs(genetics not fat). In uk bmi is being  abolished  soon as its so very incorrect
    It also doesn't account for giant schlongs, so this is very unfair and typical of the liberal media who generally have tiny peckers. 
    lol
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