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Have a co-worker, fellow driver, been out for better than a month after testing positive.......have no idea as to vax status as its not something that is discussed. But I am guessing little to no precautions were taken nor taking advantage of readily available vax here.....
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We're almost to the two full year mark and will be entering into the third year of this nonsense soon. If you (general you) haven't figured it out by now with all of the information that is readily, publicly available, I don't know what to tell you (general you).tempo_n_groove said:
I know you're joking but isn't the easy answer to show hospitalizations and deaths of vaxed and unvaxed??Halifax2TheMax said:
Show me the research.mrussel1 said:
This... exactly. And I hate being sick so I can't be more thankful for the vaccine. No I didn't feel 100% but it was nothing. My son was J&J vaxed (single, in the summer) and no booster. He got the Cron and was sick for 4 days, two of them being pretty intense. The vax and booster works, it helps.tempo_n_groove said:
I was sick for one day. ONE. The vaccine works.HughFreakingDillon said:
it's just maddening to read this shit over and over and over. it's still highly effective against severe outcomes. but yes, you might get the sniffles! oh no!Go Beavers said:
Huh? The vaccine is very effective with Omicron as well.OnWis97 said:Yeah...it's pretty much over for most people. This little dip is seems to have created some complacency.
https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/cdc-masks-cdc-expected-update-mask-guidance-early-week-rcna16331
Vaccines worked against the original Covid and the Delta. Not so much now. 28% with the booster? I'd be more disappointed if it mattered. I don't regret getting my three shots but I'm not sure there's a point in getting more...is the chance of myocarditis higher than the chance the next vax helps? Probably not, but vaccines are no longer the solution we hoped. They probably helped flatten the curve and keep some symptoms less severe.
Now? Now we're moving into "time to live with it." Masks are done.* Distancing is done.
*Mandates, anyway. A few weirdos (myself included) will still wear them in some situations. But the bottom line is, we're caving to fatigue. And the truth (masks don't make a difference) is always convenient in America.
I know other people not vaccinated that got sick recently as I did and were out for weeks.
That should be the proof?09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;
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Huh? I was asking if the easy answer to "show me the research" was hospitalizations? I don't know of other research that shows vaccinations work or don't that is easier to understand than that.Halifax2TheMax said:
We're almost to the two full year mark and will be entering into the third year of this nonsense soon. If you (general you) haven't figured it out by now with all of the information that is readily, publicly available, I don't know what to tell you (general you).tempo_n_groove said:
I know you're joking but isn't the easy answer to show hospitalizations and deaths of vaxed and unvaxed??Halifax2TheMax said:
Show me the research.mrussel1 said:
This... exactly. And I hate being sick so I can't be more thankful for the vaccine. No I didn't feel 100% but it was nothing. My son was J&J vaxed (single, in the summer) and no booster. He got the Cron and was sick for 4 days, two of them being pretty intense. The vax and booster works, it helps.tempo_n_groove said:
I was sick for one day. ONE. The vaccine works.HughFreakingDillon said:
it's just maddening to read this shit over and over and over. it's still highly effective against severe outcomes. but yes, you might get the sniffles! oh no!Go Beavers said:
Huh? The vaccine is very effective with Omicron as well.OnWis97 said:Yeah...it's pretty much over for most people. This little dip is seems to have created some complacency.
https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/cdc-masks-cdc-expected-update-mask-guidance-early-week-rcna16331
Vaccines worked against the original Covid and the Delta. Not so much now. 28% with the booster? I'd be more disappointed if it mattered. I don't regret getting my three shots but I'm not sure there's a point in getting more...is the chance of myocarditis higher than the chance the next vax helps? Probably not, but vaccines are no longer the solution we hoped. They probably helped flatten the curve and keep some symptoms less severe.
Now? Now we're moving into "time to live with it." Masks are done.* Distancing is done.
*Mandates, anyway. A few weirdos (myself included) will still wear them in some situations. But the bottom line is, we're caving to fatigue. And the truth (masks don't make a difference) is always convenient in America.
I know other people not vaccinated that got sick recently as I did and were out for weeks.
That should be the proof?
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Re-read what I posted. Hospitalization, deaths, ICU, long covid data, etc. is readily available in the public domain. If you’re (general you) are still questioning the efficacy of vaccines, boosters and the potential of masks/face coverings over nada, then I don’t know what to tell you (general you).tempo_n_groove said:
Huh? I was asking if the easy answer to "show me the research" was hospitalizations? I don't know of other research that shows vaccinations work or don't that is easier to understand than that.Halifax2TheMax said:
We're almost to the two full year mark and will be entering into the third year of this nonsense soon. If you (general you) haven't figured it out by now with all of the information that is readily, publicly available, I don't know what to tell you (general you).tempo_n_groove said:
I know you're joking but isn't the easy answer to show hospitalizations and deaths of vaxed and unvaxed??Halifax2TheMax said:
Show me the research.mrussel1 said:
This... exactly. And I hate being sick so I can't be more thankful for the vaccine. No I didn't feel 100% but it was nothing. My son was J&J vaxed (single, in the summer) and no booster. He got the Cron and was sick for 4 days, two of them being pretty intense. The vax and booster works, it helps.tempo_n_groove said:
I was sick for one day. ONE. The vaccine works.HughFreakingDillon said:
it's just maddening to read this shit over and over and over. it's still highly effective against severe outcomes. but yes, you might get the sniffles! oh no!Go Beavers said:
Huh? The vaccine is very effective with Omicron as well.OnWis97 said:Yeah...it's pretty much over for most people. This little dip is seems to have created some complacency.
https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/cdc-masks-cdc-expected-update-mask-guidance-early-week-rcna16331
Vaccines worked against the original Covid and the Delta. Not so much now. 28% with the booster? I'd be more disappointed if it mattered. I don't regret getting my three shots but I'm not sure there's a point in getting more...is the chance of myocarditis higher than the chance the next vax helps? Probably not, but vaccines are no longer the solution we hoped. They probably helped flatten the curve and keep some symptoms less severe.
Now? Now we're moving into "time to live with it." Masks are done.* Distancing is done.
*Mandates, anyway. A few weirdos (myself included) will still wear them in some situations. But the bottom line is, we're caving to fatigue. And the truth (masks don't make a difference) is always convenient in America.
I know other people not vaccinated that got sick recently as I did and were out for weeks.
That should be the proof?09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;
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My wife tells me she heard there is a truckers strike akin to the nonsense in Canada planned for the U.S. in March. Anybody hear about this?
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tempo_n_groove said:
I know you're joking but isn't the easy answer to show hospitalizations and deaths of vaxed and unvaxed??Halifax2TheMax said:
Show me the research.mrussel1 said:
This... exactly. And I hate being sick so I can't be more thankful for the vaccine. No I didn't feel 100% but it was nothing. My son was J&J vaxed (single, in the summer) and no booster. He got the Cron and was sick for 4 days, two of them being pretty intense. The vax and booster works, it helps.tempo_n_groove said:
I was sick for one day. ONE. The vaccine works.HughFreakingDillon said:
it's just maddening to read this shit over and over and over. it's still highly effective against severe outcomes. but yes, you might get the sniffles! oh no!Go Beavers said:
Huh? The vaccine is very effective with Omicron as well.OnWis97 said:Yeah...it's pretty much over for most people. This little dip is seems to have created some complacency.
https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/cdc-masks-cdc-expected-update-mask-guidance-early-week-rcna16331
Vaccines worked against the original Covid and the Delta. Not so much now. 28% with the booster? I'd be more disappointed if it mattered. I don't regret getting my three shots but I'm not sure there's a point in getting more...is the chance of myocarditis higher than the chance the next vax helps? Probably not, but vaccines are no longer the solution we hoped. They probably helped flatten the curve and keep some symptoms less severe.
Now? Now we're moving into "time to live with it." Masks are done.* Distancing is done.
*Mandates, anyway. A few weirdos (myself included) will still wear them in some situations. But the bottom line is, we're caving to fatigue. And the truth (masks don't make a difference) is always convenient in America.
I know other people not vaccinated that got sick recently as I did and were out for weeks.
That should be the proof?
Thats just the information that THEY give you...who can know if it's true?Scio me nihil scire
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brianlux said:My wife tells me she heard there is a truckers strike akin to the nonsense in Canada planned for the U.S. in March. Anybody hear about this?
they may be an ATTEMPT. Whoever does participate , it would be owner operators and perhaps the employees of smaller independent outfits. But frankly, there's money to be made and a shit ton of freight to move. It wont be about trucking related issues.
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Great point. And what exactly would they be protesting?mickeyrat said:brianlux said:My wife tells me she heard there is a truckers strike akin to the nonsense in Canada planned for the U.S. in March. Anybody hear about this?
they may be an ATTEMPT. Whoever does participate , it would be owner operators and perhaps the employees of smaller independent outfits. But frankly, there's money to be made and a shit ton of freight to move. It wont be about trucking related issues.0 -
the freedom to bleed in Red White and BLUE BABY!!!!mrussel1 said:
Great point. And what exactly would they be protesting?mickeyrat said:brianlux said:My wife tells me she heard there is a truckers strike akin to the nonsense in Canada planned for the U.S. in March. Anybody hear about this?
they may be an ATTEMPT. Whoever does participate , it would be owner operators and perhaps the employees of smaller independent outfits. But frankly, there's money to be made and a shit ton of freight to move. It wont be about trucking related issues.Scio me nihil scire
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Haha. It's all silliness. I love that these right wingers are suddenly a bunch of unemployed hippies.static111 said:
the freedom to bleed in Red White and BLUE BABY!!!!mrussel1 said:
Great point. And what exactly would they be protesting?mickeyrat said:brianlux said:My wife tells me she heard there is a truckers strike akin to the nonsense in Canada planned for the U.S. in March. Anybody hear about this?
they may be an ATTEMPT. Whoever does participate , it would be owner operators and perhaps the employees of smaller independent outfits. But frankly, there's money to be made and a shit ton of freight to move. It wont be about trucking related issues.0 -
I agreed with vaccinations and their efficacy so I have zero idea what you are talking about. I agreed with it about 3 posts earlier to yours.Halifax2TheMax said:
Re-read what I posted. Hospitalization, deaths, ICU, long covid data, etc. is readily available in the public domain. If you’re (general you) are still questioning the efficacy of vaccines, boosters and the potential of masks/face coverings over nada, then I don’t know what to tell you (general you).tempo_n_groove said:
Huh? I was asking if the easy answer to "show me the research" was hospitalizations? I don't know of other research that shows vaccinations work or don't that is easier to understand than that.Halifax2TheMax said:
We're almost to the two full year mark and will be entering into the third year of this nonsense soon. If you (general you) haven't figured it out by now with all of the information that is readily, publicly available, I don't know what to tell you (general you).tempo_n_groove said:
I know you're joking but isn't the easy answer to show hospitalizations and deaths of vaxed and unvaxed??Halifax2TheMax said:
Show me the research.mrussel1 said:
This... exactly. And I hate being sick so I can't be more thankful for the vaccine. No I didn't feel 100% but it was nothing. My son was J&J vaxed (single, in the summer) and no booster. He got the Cron and was sick for 4 days, two of them being pretty intense. The vax and booster works, it helps.tempo_n_groove said:
I was sick for one day. ONE. The vaccine works.HughFreakingDillon said:
it's just maddening to read this shit over and over and over. it's still highly effective against severe outcomes. but yes, you might get the sniffles! oh no!Go Beavers said:
Huh? The vaccine is very effective with Omicron as well.OnWis97 said:Yeah...it's pretty much over for most people. This little dip is seems to have created some complacency.
https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/cdc-masks-cdc-expected-update-mask-guidance-early-week-rcna16331
Vaccines worked against the original Covid and the Delta. Not so much now. 28% with the booster? I'd be more disappointed if it mattered. I don't regret getting my three shots but I'm not sure there's a point in getting more...is the chance of myocarditis higher than the chance the next vax helps? Probably not, but vaccines are no longer the solution we hoped. They probably helped flatten the curve and keep some symptoms less severe.
Now? Now we're moving into "time to live with it." Masks are done.* Distancing is done.
*Mandates, anyway. A few weirdos (myself included) will still wear them in some situations. But the bottom line is, we're caving to fatigue. And the truth (masks don't make a difference) is always convenient in America.
I know other people not vaccinated that got sick recently as I did and were out for weeks.
That should be the proof?
I do agree with what they are saying about the inefficiency of gators and cloth masks. So again, I don't know what you are saying? A N95 works best is all I keep reading and hearing.
Third I was asking you(general you) if showing the non believers that hospital rates among the vaxxed and unvaxxed was the best proof which I believe is the best measuring stick to show people.
I am completely baffled at your angle towards me. If I have shown anything against the science or the professionals please show me. I made the point about the masks and what should be worn so I don't know what else you read or maybe you are confusing me w somebody else?0 -
Dude, you need to relax. The "general you" was/is directed toward those that are still questioning EVERYTHING despite 2 years, going on three, of this nonsense. And all the data one needs is readily available, including the deaths/hospitalization rates you pointed out. Even gaiters and cloth masks can have an impact, slightly/minimally/ a half percent? better than nothing. But here we are, still questioning the efficacy of face coverings (not you, me but others) Its the others my ire is aimed at. The lack of critical thinking skills, combined with social media, will be the death of Western Democracy.tempo_n_groove said:
I agreed with vaccinations and their efficacy so I have zero idea what you are talking about. I agreed with it about 3 posts earlier to yours.Halifax2TheMax said:
Re-read what I posted. Hospitalization, deaths, ICU, long covid data, etc. is readily available in the public domain. If you’re (general you) are still questioning the efficacy of vaccines, boosters and the potential of masks/face coverings over nada, then I don’t know what to tell you (general you).tempo_n_groove said:
Huh? I was asking if the easy answer to "show me the research" was hospitalizations? I don't know of other research that shows vaccinations work or don't that is easier to understand than that.Halifax2TheMax said:
We're almost to the two full year mark and will be entering into the third year of this nonsense soon. If you (general you) haven't figured it out by now with all of the information that is readily, publicly available, I don't know what to tell you (general you).tempo_n_groove said:
I know you're joking but isn't the easy answer to show hospitalizations and deaths of vaxed and unvaxed??Halifax2TheMax said:
Show me the research.mrussel1 said:
This... exactly. And I hate being sick so I can't be more thankful for the vaccine. No I didn't feel 100% but it was nothing. My son was J&J vaxed (single, in the summer) and no booster. He got the Cron and was sick for 4 days, two of them being pretty intense. The vax and booster works, it helps.tempo_n_groove said:
I was sick for one day. ONE. The vaccine works.HughFreakingDillon said:
it's just maddening to read this shit over and over and over. it's still highly effective against severe outcomes. but yes, you might get the sniffles! oh no!Go Beavers said:
Huh? The vaccine is very effective with Omicron as well.OnWis97 said:Yeah...it's pretty much over for most people. This little dip is seems to have created some complacency.
https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/cdc-masks-cdc-expected-update-mask-guidance-early-week-rcna16331
Vaccines worked against the original Covid and the Delta. Not so much now. 28% with the booster? I'd be more disappointed if it mattered. I don't regret getting my three shots but I'm not sure there's a point in getting more...is the chance of myocarditis higher than the chance the next vax helps? Probably not, but vaccines are no longer the solution we hoped. They probably helped flatten the curve and keep some symptoms less severe.
Now? Now we're moving into "time to live with it." Masks are done.* Distancing is done.
*Mandates, anyway. A few weirdos (myself included) will still wear them in some situations. But the bottom line is, we're caving to fatigue. And the truth (masks don't make a difference) is always convenient in America.
I know other people not vaccinated that got sick recently as I did and were out for weeks.
That should be the proof?
I do agree with what they are saying about the inefficiency of gators and cloth masks. So again, I don't know what you are saying? A N95 works best is all I keep reading and hearing.
Third I was asking you(general you) if showing the non believers that hospital rates among the vaxxed and unvaxxed was the best proof which I believe is the best measuring stick to show people.
I am completely baffled at your angle towards me. If I have shown anything against the science or the professionals please show me. I made the point about the masks and what should be worn so I don't know what else you read or maybe you are confusing me w somebody else?
"Show me the research" comment that I directed at mrussel is what some on here are still thinking, FFS.09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;
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But we only see the research that THEY give us Hal, of course THEY don't want us to see the research that THEY don't want us to see. How can you not see that!Halifax2TheMax said:
Dude, you need to relax. The "general you" was/is directed toward those that are still questioning EVERYTHING despite 2 years, going on three, of this nonsense. And all the data one needs is readily available, including the deaths/hospitalization rates you pointed out. Even gaiters and cloth masks can have an impact, slightly/minimally/ a half percent? better than nothing. But here we are, still questioning the efficacy of face coverings (not you, me but others) Its the others my ire is aimed at. The lack of critical thinking skills, combined with social media, will be the death of Western Democracy.tempo_n_groove said:
I agreed with vaccinations and their efficacy so I have zero idea what you are talking about. I agreed with it about 3 posts earlier to yours.Halifax2TheMax said:
Re-read what I posted. Hospitalization, deaths, ICU, long covid data, etc. is readily available in the public domain. If you’re (general you) are still questioning the efficacy of vaccines, boosters and the potential of masks/face coverings over nada, then I don’t know what to tell you (general you).tempo_n_groove said:
Huh? I was asking if the easy answer to "show me the research" was hospitalizations? I don't know of other research that shows vaccinations work or don't that is easier to understand than that.Halifax2TheMax said:
We're almost to the two full year mark and will be entering into the third year of this nonsense soon. If you (general you) haven't figured it out by now with all of the information that is readily, publicly available, I don't know what to tell you (general you).tempo_n_groove said:
I know you're joking but isn't the easy answer to show hospitalizations and deaths of vaxed and unvaxed??Halifax2TheMax said:
Show me the research.mrussel1 said:
This... exactly. And I hate being sick so I can't be more thankful for the vaccine. No I didn't feel 100% but it was nothing. My son was J&J vaxed (single, in the summer) and no booster. He got the Cron and was sick for 4 days, two of them being pretty intense. The vax and booster works, it helps.tempo_n_groove said:
I was sick for one day. ONE. The vaccine works.HughFreakingDillon said:
it's just maddening to read this shit over and over and over. it's still highly effective against severe outcomes. but yes, you might get the sniffles! oh no!Go Beavers said:
Huh? The vaccine is very effective with Omicron as well.OnWis97 said:Yeah...it's pretty much over for most people. This little dip is seems to have created some complacency.
https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/cdc-masks-cdc-expected-update-mask-guidance-early-week-rcna16331
Vaccines worked against the original Covid and the Delta. Not so much now. 28% with the booster? I'd be more disappointed if it mattered. I don't regret getting my three shots but I'm not sure there's a point in getting more...is the chance of myocarditis higher than the chance the next vax helps? Probably not, but vaccines are no longer the solution we hoped. They probably helped flatten the curve and keep some symptoms less severe.
Now? Now we're moving into "time to live with it." Masks are done.* Distancing is done.
*Mandates, anyway. A few weirdos (myself included) will still wear them in some situations. But the bottom line is, we're caving to fatigue. And the truth (masks don't make a difference) is always convenient in America.
I know other people not vaccinated that got sick recently as I did and were out for weeks.
That should be the proof?
I do agree with what they are saying about the inefficiency of gators and cloth masks. So again, I don't know what you are saying? A N95 works best is all I keep reading and hearing.
Third I was asking you(general you) if showing the non believers that hospital rates among the vaxxed and unvaxxed was the best proof which I believe is the best measuring stick to show people.
I am completely baffled at your angle towards me. If I have shown anything against the science or the professionals please show me. I made the point about the masks and what should be worn so I don't know what else you read or maybe you are confusing me w somebody else?
"Show me the research" comment that I directed at mrussel is what some on here are still thinking, FFS.Scio me nihil scire
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I know it's confusing, but he's actually agreeing with you.tempo_n_groove said:
I agreed with vaccinations and their efficacy so I have zero idea what you are talking about. I agreed with it about 3 posts earlier to yours.Halifax2TheMax said:
Re-read what I posted. Hospitalization, deaths, ICU, long covid data, etc. is readily available in the public domain. If you’re (general you) are still questioning the efficacy of vaccines, boosters and the potential of masks/face coverings over nada, then I don’t know what to tell you (general you).tempo_n_groove said:
Huh? I was asking if the easy answer to "show me the research" was hospitalizations? I don't know of other research that shows vaccinations work or don't that is easier to understand than that.Halifax2TheMax said:
We're almost to the two full year mark and will be entering into the third year of this nonsense soon. If you (general you) haven't figured it out by now with all of the information that is readily, publicly available, I don't know what to tell you (general you).tempo_n_groove said:
I know you're joking but isn't the easy answer to show hospitalizations and deaths of vaxed and unvaxed??Halifax2TheMax said:
Show me the research.mrussel1 said:
This... exactly. And I hate being sick so I can't be more thankful for the vaccine. No I didn't feel 100% but it was nothing. My son was J&J vaxed (single, in the summer) and no booster. He got the Cron and was sick for 4 days, two of them being pretty intense. The vax and booster works, it helps.tempo_n_groove said:
I was sick for one day. ONE. The vaccine works.HughFreakingDillon said:
it's just maddening to read this shit over and over and over. it's still highly effective against severe outcomes. but yes, you might get the sniffles! oh no!Go Beavers said:
Huh? The vaccine is very effective with Omicron as well.OnWis97 said:Yeah...it's pretty much over for most people. This little dip is seems to have created some complacency.
https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/cdc-masks-cdc-expected-update-mask-guidance-early-week-rcna16331
Vaccines worked against the original Covid and the Delta. Not so much now. 28% with the booster? I'd be more disappointed if it mattered. I don't regret getting my three shots but I'm not sure there's a point in getting more...is the chance of myocarditis higher than the chance the next vax helps? Probably not, but vaccines are no longer the solution we hoped. They probably helped flatten the curve and keep some symptoms less severe.
Now? Now we're moving into "time to live with it." Masks are done.* Distancing is done.
*Mandates, anyway. A few weirdos (myself included) will still wear them in some situations. But the bottom line is, we're caving to fatigue. And the truth (masks don't make a difference) is always convenient in America.
I know other people not vaccinated that got sick recently as I did and were out for weeks.
That should be the proof?
I do agree with what they are saying about the inefficiency of gators and cloth masks. So again, I don't know what you are saying? A N95 works best is all I keep reading and hearing.
Third I was asking you(general you) if showing the non believers that hospital rates among the vaxxed and unvaxxed was the best proof which I believe is the best measuring stick to show people.
I am completely baffled at your angle towards me. If I have shown anything against the science or the professionals please show me. I made the point about the masks and what should be worn so I don't know what else you read or maybe you are confusing me w somebody else?By The Time They Figure Out What Went Wrong, We'll Be Sitting On A Beach, Earning Twenty Percent.0 -
I see that now but it sure as hell didn't look like that... It's cryptic as usual... I don't speak Fax to well I guess.HughFreakingDillon said:
I know it's confusing, but he's actually agreeing with you.tempo_n_groove said:
I agreed with vaccinations and their efficacy so I have zero idea what you are talking about. I agreed with it about 3 posts earlier to yours.Halifax2TheMax said:
Re-read what I posted. Hospitalization, deaths, ICU, long covid data, etc. is readily available in the public domain. If you’re (general you) are still questioning the efficacy of vaccines, boosters and the potential of masks/face coverings over nada, then I don’t know what to tell you (general you).tempo_n_groove said:
Huh? I was asking if the easy answer to "show me the research" was hospitalizations? I don't know of other research that shows vaccinations work or don't that is easier to understand than that.Halifax2TheMax said:
We're almost to the two full year mark and will be entering into the third year of this nonsense soon. If you (general you) haven't figured it out by now with all of the information that is readily, publicly available, I don't know what to tell you (general you).tempo_n_groove said:
I know you're joking but isn't the easy answer to show hospitalizations and deaths of vaxed and unvaxed??Halifax2TheMax said:
Show me the research.mrussel1 said:
This... exactly. And I hate being sick so I can't be more thankful for the vaccine. No I didn't feel 100% but it was nothing. My son was J&J vaxed (single, in the summer) and no booster. He got the Cron and was sick for 4 days, two of them being pretty intense. The vax and booster works, it helps.tempo_n_groove said:
I was sick for one day. ONE. The vaccine works.HughFreakingDillon said:
it's just maddening to read this shit over and over and over. it's still highly effective against severe outcomes. but yes, you might get the sniffles! oh no!Go Beavers said:
Huh? The vaccine is very effective with Omicron as well.OnWis97 said:Yeah...it's pretty much over for most people. This little dip is seems to have created some complacency.
https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/cdc-masks-cdc-expected-update-mask-guidance-early-week-rcna16331
Vaccines worked against the original Covid and the Delta. Not so much now. 28% with the booster? I'd be more disappointed if it mattered. I don't regret getting my three shots but I'm not sure there's a point in getting more...is the chance of myocarditis higher than the chance the next vax helps? Probably not, but vaccines are no longer the solution we hoped. They probably helped flatten the curve and keep some symptoms less severe.
Now? Now we're moving into "time to live with it." Masks are done.* Distancing is done.
*Mandates, anyway. A few weirdos (myself included) will still wear them in some situations. But the bottom line is, we're caving to fatigue. And the truth (masks don't make a difference) is always convenient in America.
I know other people not vaccinated that got sick recently as I did and were out for weeks.
That should be the proof?
I do agree with what they are saying about the inefficiency of gators and cloth masks. So again, I don't know what you are saying? A N95 works best is all I keep reading and hearing.
Third I was asking you(general you) if showing the non believers that hospital rates among the vaxxed and unvaxxed was the best proof which I believe is the best measuring stick to show people.
I am completely baffled at your angle towards me. If I have shown anything against the science or the professionals please show me. I made the point about the masks and what should be worn so I don't know what else you read or maybe you are confusing me w somebody else?0 -
Sorry, You confuse me sometimes... This was one of them...Halifax2TheMax said:
Dude, you need to relax. The "general you" was/is directed toward those that are still questioning EVERYTHING despite 2 years, going on three, of this nonsense. And all the data one needs is readily available, including the deaths/hospitalization rates you pointed out. Even gaiters and cloth masks can have an impact, slightly/minimally/ a half percent? better than nothing. But here we are, still questioning the efficacy of face coverings (not you, me but others) Its the others my ire is aimed at. The lack of critical thinking skills, combined with social media, will be the death of Western Democracy.tempo_n_groove said:
I agreed with vaccinations and their efficacy so I have zero idea what you are talking about. I agreed with it about 3 posts earlier to yours.Halifax2TheMax said:
Re-read what I posted. Hospitalization, deaths, ICU, long covid data, etc. is readily available in the public domain. If you’re (general you) are still questioning the efficacy of vaccines, boosters and the potential of masks/face coverings over nada, then I don’t know what to tell you (general you).tempo_n_groove said:
Huh? I was asking if the easy answer to "show me the research" was hospitalizations? I don't know of other research that shows vaccinations work or don't that is easier to understand than that.Halifax2TheMax said:
We're almost to the two full year mark and will be entering into the third year of this nonsense soon. If you (general you) haven't figured it out by now with all of the information that is readily, publicly available, I don't know what to tell you (general you).tempo_n_groove said:
I know you're joking but isn't the easy answer to show hospitalizations and deaths of vaxed and unvaxed??Halifax2TheMax said:
Show me the research.mrussel1 said:
This... exactly. And I hate being sick so I can't be more thankful for the vaccine. No I didn't feel 100% but it was nothing. My son was J&J vaxed (single, in the summer) and no booster. He got the Cron and was sick for 4 days, two of them being pretty intense. The vax and booster works, it helps.tempo_n_groove said:
I was sick for one day. ONE. The vaccine works.HughFreakingDillon said:
it's just maddening to read this shit over and over and over. it's still highly effective against severe outcomes. but yes, you might get the sniffles! oh no!Go Beavers said:
Huh? The vaccine is very effective with Omicron as well.OnWis97 said:Yeah...it's pretty much over for most people. This little dip is seems to have created some complacency.
https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/cdc-masks-cdc-expected-update-mask-guidance-early-week-rcna16331
Vaccines worked against the original Covid and the Delta. Not so much now. 28% with the booster? I'd be more disappointed if it mattered. I don't regret getting my three shots but I'm not sure there's a point in getting more...is the chance of myocarditis higher than the chance the next vax helps? Probably not, but vaccines are no longer the solution we hoped. They probably helped flatten the curve and keep some symptoms less severe.
Now? Now we're moving into "time to live with it." Masks are done.* Distancing is done.
*Mandates, anyway. A few weirdos (myself included) will still wear them in some situations. But the bottom line is, we're caving to fatigue. And the truth (masks don't make a difference) is always convenient in America.
I know other people not vaccinated that got sick recently as I did and were out for weeks.
That should be the proof?
I do agree with what they are saying about the inefficiency of gators and cloth masks. So again, I don't know what you are saying? A N95 works best is all I keep reading and hearing.
Third I was asking you(general you) if showing the non believers that hospital rates among the vaxxed and unvaxxed was the best proof which I believe is the best measuring stick to show people.
I am completely baffled at your angle towards me. If I have shown anything against the science or the professionals please show me. I made the point about the masks and what should be worn so I don't know what else you read or maybe you are confusing me w somebody else?
"Show me the research" comment that I directed at mrussel is what some on here are still thinking, FFS.
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42% of Americans are obese. Says is right in the article. So that's kind of a health crisis. You do a good job of finding the morons, I'll give you that.Meltdown99 said:
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fat people are morons?mrussel1 said:
42% of Americans are obese. Says is right in the article. So that's kind of a health crisis. You do a good job of finding the morons, I'll give you that.Meltdown99 said:
Try not to spam up this page too, please.By The Time They Figure Out What Went Wrong, We'll Be Sitting On A Beach, Earning Twenty Percent.0 -
Fat people eating SPAM are morons is how I read that one...HughFreakingDillon said:
fat people are morons?mrussel1 said:
42% of Americans are obese. Says is right in the article. So that's kind of a health crisis. You do a good job of finding the morons, I'll give you that.Meltdown99 said:
Try not to spam up this page too, please.0
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