Should Pearl Jam continue with non-transferable tickets?

I thought that Fan to Fan was excellent when we had it in 2020.  Gave fans a chance to buy 10c for face value after missing out, and sellers are able to list them in the event they can’t make it.  What more can you want than that?

Ticket transfers should be allowed for all shows.  If the pending tour's ticket system resembles the recent EV tour's in any way, they're not accomplishing the goal of keeping tickets out of the hands of scalpers, assuming that is even a goal.  They're just pushing them into the hands of one giant scalper (Ticketmaster) rather than several small ones.  The Platinum pricing and held back tickets by TM is a complete scam that left a sour taste in a lot of mouths. 

I believe a simple solution would be to maintain non-transferable tickets, but with 2 key requirements:

1) The fan-to-fan face value ticket exchange is made available immediately or shortly after the main on-sale, with a firm commitment. It was a scam to promise the exchange but then delay it for 2 months while TM scalped their Platinum tickets. They basically manufactured the "overwhelming" demand they advertised, even though it didn't really exist. I'm amazed that this could be legal. Maybe it's not... 

2) Ticketmaster does not hold back tickets for their Official Platinum scam. Or if the artists insist on allowing Platinum sales, the percentage of tickets held back should be disclosed and the Platinum tickets should have to compete with the fan-to-fan exchange. Just getting rid of Platinum would be better. EV and/or PJ can charge as much as they want, but let's avoid screwing fans over with Ticketmaster's dishonest shenanigans. 

I think the non-transferrable and platinum are two different arguments:

1) Yes, to keep using non-transferrable.   PJ often sells tickets below market value.  If they're going to sell them below market value, it helps to increase the chances they're used by fans and not scalped.  I did like 2018 tour idea of 10c tickets being non-transferrable.  I had no problem with that. I also liked the 2020 evolution into the fan2fan portal.   Makes it easy to sell tickets at face, and gives other fans a chance to get tickets to a show they missed out on.  

2) Platinum pricing.  It's left a sour taste in my mouth.  Paid a bunch for night 1 tickets, only to see a bunch posted today at close to face value prices even closer.  Makes me feel like I got taken for the extra I paid for further away tickets.   I fully understand why it's used.   It cuts out scalpers, and TM/Promoter/Band all make more money using it.  It benefits everyone in that industry.   That being said as a fan, and how it went down for the EV shows.  I feel like they allocated too many tickets.   Seattle just put up full rows and sections of tickets. Between what they've sold over the past few months, it feels like a really big portion of the venue was never put up for sale to us plebs.  It also didn't feel great the delayed the F2F ticket selling to sell more platinum tickets.   Kind of screwed some fans over.   Who's going to buy those over priced seattle platinum tickets when now TM and Fan2Fan are offloading tickets at cheaper prices.

That's my thoughts.  Non-Transferrable, yay!, platinum, boo-urns!

It seems like a less than honorary idea to have both systems going at the same time.   I agree with other posters to open up F2F right away, and limit the # of platinum tickets.

Hopefully this was an EV only thing, and future PJ tours keep doing what they're doing.

Human Tide said:

I believe a simple solution would be to maintain non-transferable tickets, but with 2 key requirements:

1) The fan-to-fan face value ticket exchange is made available immediately or shortly after the main on-sale, with a firm commitment. It was a scam to promise the exchange but then delay it for 2 months while TM scalped their Platinum tickets. I'm amazed that this is legal. 

2) Ticketmaster does not hold back tickets for their Official Platinum scam. Or if the artists insist on allowing Platinum sales, the percentage of tickets held back should be disclosed and the Platinum tickets should have to compete with the fan-to-fan exchange. Just getting rid of Platinum would be better. EV and/or PJ can charge as much as they want, but let's avoid screwing fans over with Ticketmaster's dishonest shenanigans. 

This.

If PJ insists on shorter tours and doing tickets per leg not having secondary market tickets makes it much harder for fans to see more than 1 show per leg. An East Coast leg makes it almost impossible to get tickets to your second or later choice.  I like the stub hub option for concerts.  It gives me the choice to decide how much I want to pay to see a band:  The Who is coming to Philly but original prices are ridiculous so no need for me to purchase months ahead of time.  I’ll decide as the show gets closer if I want to pay the prices at that time. That works for me but I understand some don’t share that view. I understand a band not wanting secondary market tickets but honestly don’t understand fans who are against it.  In the long run no secondary market ultimately be limits availability to shows to consumers. 

I agree with Yankee 2B Legend Pat Kelly that you should be able to sell below face on f2f. It doesn't seem hard to let you set your price with face being the max but what do I know.

Human Tide said:

I believe a simple solution would be to maintain non-transferable tickets, but with 2 key requirements:

1) The fan-to-fan face value ticket exchange is made available immediately or shortly after the main on-sale, with a firm commitment. It was a scam to promise the exchange but then delay it for 2 months while TM scalped their Platinum tickets. I'm amazed that this is legal. 

2) Ticketmaster does not hold back tickets for their Official Platinum scam. Or if the artists insist on allowing Platinum sales, the percentage of tickets held back should be disclosed and the Platinum tickets should have to compete with the fan-to-fan exchange. Just getting rid of Platinum would be better. EV and/or PJ can charge as much as they want, but let's avoid screwing fans over with Ticketmaster's dishonest shenanigans. 

Totally agree on both points. If the F2F exchange existed and was live weeks before the tour I’d bet most people would be happier in how everything shook out.

Poncier said:

patkelly12 said:

Platinum and dynamic pricing aren't going away. Fine. 

They can go away for shows if the artist requests it. Just look at what Garth Brooks is doing. All tix for his current slate of shows are $84.70 plus fees (which are only $7.25). No dynamic pricing, no VIP packages, no Platinum seating, no extra 20 bucks for aisle seats, no charity seats for $500.00, none of it. 
The only reason there are platinum tickets to EV's shows is he agreed to let it happen.

Wow.  Didn't realize that.  I'm guessing Garth Brooks still has a massive fan base too (could be wrong - I don't listen to country), so this proves the artist has full control.