Canadian Politics Redux

Nami said:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EdhFuMDLBDM&t=2s

Long but a good watch.  Editing cause I just want to make note, I know right away which points of this video most of you will bring up... towards the end.  If you touch on those points, i know you have lost the underling message.
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HughFreakingDillon said:

Trudeau tests postive for covid after isolating with this child who was also positive. but sure, he's "hiding from the truckers".

Nami said:

Im unsure as to why that video was edited that way as well.   Perhaps legal matters or even past scrutiny over his editing processes.

Yes the next couple of years will be crazy.   

That being said, the way the charter was set up by the 9 premiers was brilliant.  Roll out emergency procedures at the provincial level then federal.   Allowing 4 (i believe) points of measurement for such an emergency were Federal government can apply jurisdiction  over provincial.   

I work in the public sector, and we were mandated to get the shot or lose a job.  I had mine before that, but still..  

DarthMaeglin said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

Trudeau tests postive for covid after isolating with this child who was also positive. but sure, he's "hiding from the truckers".

Let’s be honest here, if Harper was cowering in a closet, Trudeau’s hiding from the truckers. Any thinking person will realize that’s not accurate in either case.

It was too bad though that all Trudeau could say about the vaccines in his press conference was they’re “safe and effective” without any statistics or proofs to back up his claims, because 3 out of 5 Trudeaus say the vaccines aren’t overly effective.

DarthMaeglin said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

3 out of 5 trudeaus say the vaccines aren't overly effective? huh?

Justin and 2 of his children have all tested positive. Going by most definitions of a vaccine that’s only 40% effective. For me, if you want me to buy what you’re selling, blanket statements with zero proofs don’t generally sway me.

Maybe the time has come to rename our vaccines as pre-treatments or else redefine the word vaccine, since every definition I’ve seen mentions immunity, which these aren’t really providing.

HughFreakingDillon said:

DarthMaeglin said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

3 out of 5 trudeaus say the vaccines aren't overly effective? huh?

Justin and 2 of his children have all tested positive. Going by most definitions of a vaccine that’s only 40% effective. For me, if you want me to buy what you’re selling, blanket statements with zero proofs don’t generally sway me.

Maybe the time has come to rename our vaccines as pre-treatments or else redefine the word vaccine, since every definition I’ve seen mentions immunity, which these aren’t really providing.

a vaccine boots immunity. the definition isn't 100% immunity. we have a flu vaccine every year that ranges from 40% to 70%, and it's still called, you guessed it, a vaccine. 

there's going to be breakthrough infections. but for the vast, vast majority, because of vaccines, those won't turn into serious cases that require hospitalization. 

the science is clear: the vaccines work. it's not the PM's job to give you scientific breakdowns. that's for the scientists. which they have done, ad nauseum. if you still aren't paying attention to them, well then, not sure what to say.