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  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,594
    edited January 2022
    JB16057 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    JB16057 said:
    Texas mail in voting qualifications are very restrictive

    To be eligible to vote early by mail in Texas, you must:

    • be 65 years or older;
    • be sick or disabled;
    • be out of the county on election day and during the period for early voting by personal appearance;
    • be expected to give birth within three weeks before or after Election Day; or
    • be confined in jail, but otherwise eligible.

    Jesus. I had to double check to see if true and it is: https://www.sos.texas.gov/elections/voter/reqabbm.shtml

    This is a disgrace. We made so much progress in 2020 only to see so many Republican led states take us backwards...
    That sucks that people have to make an effort to vote!

    Why should A right that is granted to every citizen need to be difficult to exercise?  Why isn’t the goal to remove barriers?
    We need barriers to ensure a fair election.
    What sort of barriers ensure a fair election? Generally barriers to voting simply ensure that people who have the means to get over those barriers are able to vote and those that don’t, aren’t. Like almost everything else in our society, putting up more barriers just favours those of middle or higher socioeconomic class. 
    Earlier yesterday someone admitted that it was great that so many more people were able to vote in 2020 and that progress was being made (the same election that members of Trump's admin called the most secure in our nation's history).

    Later that same day, here he is hailing efforts to curb that exact same progress. 

    Make less sense next time. I dare you. 




    yeah he had to change his tune once we pointed out that the new legislation could reverse the progress...GOP doesn't want progress
    Just shows how difficult it is to continue to find ways to support a position you have to know, deep down, doesn't make sense...unless he was lying, initially, about how great it was that so many people were able to vote in the first place. Who knows? 
    Post edited by Kat on
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  • RunIntoTheRain
    RunIntoTheRain Texas Posts: 1,032
    tbergs said:
    mace1229 said:
    Texas mail in voting qualifications are very restrictive

    To be eligible to vote early by mail in Texas, you must:

    • be 65 years or older;
    • be sick or disabled;
    • be out of the county on election day and during the period for early voting by personal appearance;
    • be expected to give birth within three weeks before or after Election Day; or
    • be confined in jail, but otherwise eligible.

    But they still have an early voting period. I don’t know what that looks like, but if registration is easy and locations are accessible, then I don’t see the big deal about the mail in voting.
    If it’s not easy and there aren’t enough early voting places, then I see the concern about mail in.
    I do think we need to make sure voting early is accessible to all, but that Texas reference above isn't accurate. I was surprised to see the many options Texas does offer for both early in-person voting and mail in voting after reading some of the statements made here.

    https://www.votetexas.gov/faq/early-voting.html

    Edit: I shouldn't say not accurate, but more doesn't paint the whole picture of options.
    What I posted refers specifically to vote by mail. It is an accurate list as verified by the link you posted. Are you seeing something different?
  • JB16057
    JB16057 Posts: 1,269
    edited January 2022
    JB16057 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    JB16057 said:
    Texas mail in voting qualifications are very restrictive

    To be eligible to vote early by mail in Texas, you must:

    • be 65 years or older;
    • be sick or disabled;
    • be out of the county on election day and during the period for early voting by personal appearance;
    • be expected to give birth within three weeks before or after Election Day; or
    • be confined in jail, but otherwise eligible.

    Jesus. I had to double check to see if true and it is: https://www.sos.texas.gov/elections/voter/reqabbm.shtml

    This is a disgrace. We made so much progress in 2020 only to see so many Republican led states take us backwards...
    That sucks that people have to make an effort to vote!

    Why should A right that is granted to every citizen need to be difficult to exercise?  Why isn’t the goal to remove barriers?
    We need barriers to ensure a fair election.
    What sort of barriers ensure a fair election? Generally barriers to voting simply ensure that people who have the means to get over those barriers are able to vote and those that don’t, aren’t. Like almost everything else in our society, putting up more barriers just favours those of middle or higher socioeconomic class. 
    Earlier yesterday someone admitted that it was great that so many more people were able to vote in 2020 and that progress was being made (the same election that members of Trump's admin called the most secure in our nation's history).

    Later that same day, here he is hailing efforts to curb that exact same progress. 

    Make less sense next time. I dare you. 




    yeah he had to change his tune once we pointed out that the new legislation could reverse the progress...GOP doesn't want progress
    Just shows how difficult it is to continue to find ways to support a position you have to know, deep down, doesn't make sense...unless he was lying, initially, about how great it was that so many people were able to vote in the first place. Who knows? 
    Can you provide proof of how many votes these new laws have suppressed?

    Post edited by Kat on
  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,185
    JB16057 said:
    JB16057 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    JB16057 said:
    Texas mail in voting qualifications are very restrictive

    To be eligible to vote early by mail in Texas, you must:

    • be 65 years or older;
    • be sick or disabled;
    • be out of the county on election day and during the period for early voting by personal appearance;
    • be expected to give birth within three weeks before or after Election Day; or
    • be confined in jail, but otherwise eligible.

    Jesus. I had to double check to see if true and it is: https://www.sos.texas.gov/elections/voter/reqabbm.shtml

    This is a disgrace. We made so much progress in 2020 only to see so many Republican led states take us backwards...
    That sucks that people have to make an effort to vote!

    Why should A right that is granted to every citizen need to be difficult to exercise?  Why isn’t the goal to remove barriers?
    We need barriers to ensure a fair election.
    What sort of barriers ensure a fair election? Generally barriers to voting simply ensure that people who have the means to get over those barriers are able to vote and those that don’t, aren’t. Like almost everything else in our society, putting up more barriers just favours those of middle or higher socioeconomic class. 
    Earlier yesterday this JB guy admitted that it was great that so many more people were able to vote in 2020 and that progress was being made (the same election that members of Trump's admin called the most secure in our nation's history).

    Later that same day, here he is hailing efforts to curb that exact same progress. 

    Make less sense next time. I dare you. 




    yeah he had to change his tune once we pointed out that the new legislation could reverse the progress...GOP doesn't want progress
    Just shows how difficult it is to continue to find ways to support a position you have to know, deep down, doesn't make sense...unless he was lying, initially, about how great it was that so many people were able to vote in the first place. Who knows? 
    Can you provide proof of how many votes these new laws have suppressed?

    uh....we haven't had an election yet.

    I feel like you don't do much research or give much thought to anything you try to argue about.
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  • Kat
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    edited January 2022
    Closed for review. Sorry it took a while...very busy right now with an album being released. Topic is being reopened.
    NOTE: DO NOT talk about each other. Talk about the topic. Thanks.

    Post edited by Kat on
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  • mickeyrat
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    Biden year one takeaways: Grand ambitions, humbling defeats
    By The Associated Press
    Today

    Joe Biden's long arc in public life has always had one final ambition: to sit behind the Resolute Desk of the Oval Office.

    He achieved it — albeit, at 78, as the oldest person to assume the presidency. After the turbulence and chaos of his predecessor, Donald Trump, Biden was seen by voters as one who could restore a sense of normalcy and a reassuring tone to the White House.

    But Biden also found out, as all his predecessors have, that events beyond his control would shape his time in office and the public's assessment of him.

    Takeaways from The Associated Press' White House team on Biden's first year as president:

    BIG AMBITIONS

    Biden started his presidency with more than $4 trillion worth of big ideas — his eyes larger than what the Senate could stomach.

    $1.9 trillion worth of coronavirus relief passed in March, which in many first years in office would have been considered a signature achievement.

    But Biden kept asking for more: an additional $2.3 trillion for infrastructure and jobs, and another $1.8 trillion for families.

    After some tortuous negotiations, he got a version of his infrastructure plan passed and even got more than a dozen


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  • gimmesometruth27
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    are we back open? test post.
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  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,078
    looks like it worked. 

    all of us, no matter the party, should be concerned about the impediments being put in place to voting. the 15th amendment is being threatened in several ways. partisan jerrymandering, fewer machines in poor areas that typically vote democrat, disallowing early voting in some states, etc.

    republicans know that they cannot win on their ideas and their platform. they know that if more people vote, they are less likely to win an election. how can they tilt the odds in their favor? either try to make biden so toxic democrats will not turn out to vote, OR make it more and more difficult for people to vote.

    those that support these new laws, should be ashamed of themselves. it is a solution in search of a problem, and it is absolutely cheating.
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  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,594
    looks like it worked. 

    all of us, no matter the party, should be concerned about the impediments being put in place to voting. the 15th amendment is being threatened in several ways. partisan jerrymandering, fewer machines in poor areas that typically vote democrat, disallowing early voting in some states, etc.

    republicans know that they cannot win on their ideas and their platform. they know that if more people vote, they are less likely to win an election. how can they tilt the odds in their favor? either try to make biden so toxic democrats will not turn out to vote, OR make it more and more difficult for people to vote.

    those that support these new laws, should be ashamed of themselves. it is a solution in search of a problem, and it is absolutely cheating.
    Yep. Plain and simple. If 2020 was the most secure in our country's history, there is no need for "barriers" to go up and erode the progress we made. A healthy democracy would build upon that progress, not work to destroy it. 


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  • mrussel1
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    Vermont gov (R) pushes for full mail in voting.  Republican wants more participation in democracy?  What a RINO!

    https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/590161-vermonts-republican-governor-backs-all-mail-elections
  • mrussel1 said:
    Vermont gov (R) pushes for full mail in voting.  Republican wants more participation in democracy?  What a RINO!

    https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/590161-vermonts-republican-governor-backs-all-mail-elections
    Will there be a POOTWH rally for his primary opponent the next time he runs? And its Vermont, almost no one lives there.
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  • The Juggler
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    Goodness Gracious! The Republican's plan appears to already be working perfectly....thus shocking nobody who is actually paying attention. 


    https://www.usnews.com/news/top-news/articles/2022-01-18/texas-rejects-hundreds-of-mail-ballot-applications-under-new-voting-limits

    Texas Rejects Hundreds of Mail Ballot Applications Under New Voting Limits

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    as Rejects Hundreds of Mail Ballot Applications Under New Voting Limits
    Reuters

    Travis County Clerk Dana DeBeauvoir speaks to the media after Travis County election officials said that due to Texas' new voting law SB1, half of vote-by-mail applications for March primaries had been rejected, in Austin, Texas, U.S. January 18, 2022. REUTERS/Sergio FloresREUTERS

    By Joseph Ax

    (Reuters) - Texas election officials have rejected hundreds of mail-in ballot applications, abiding by a new Republican-backed law just weeks before a March 1 primary kicks off this year's U.S. election cycle.

    "My friends, this is what voter suppression looks like," Democrat Dana DeBeauvoir, the Travis County clerk, told reporters on Tuesday.

    The county, home to the state capital Austin, invalidated approximately 300 applications because people failed to meet the law's stricter identification requirements, said DeBeauvoir, who retires at month's end.

    Lawmakers in Texas approved a raft of voting restrictions last year, one of many efforts in Republican-controlled states to pass new limits after former President Donald Trump falsely claimed he lost the 2020 election because of widespread fraud.

    Democrats in Congress this week renewed their push to pass sweeping voting rights legislation https://www.reuters.com/world/us/us-democrats-start-voting-rights-showdown-with-no-clear-path-victory-2022-01-18 that would overturn limits such as the Texas law, but the effort appears doomed in the face of united Republican opposition.

    The Texas bill prompted some Democratic legislators to flee the state for weeks to prevent the state House of Representatives from having the quorum necessary to pass it, though they eventually relented.

    Republican Texas Governor Greg Abbott, who signed the bill in September and is seeking re-election this year, has said the law, known as Senate Bill 1, will increase public trust in elections.

    The U.S. Justice Department has sued Texas over the legislation, saying it disenfranchises voters. Democrats say such restrictions discriminate against Black voters and other minorities who traditionally support Democratic candidates.

    Among other provisions, the law requires voters applying for a mail ballot to provide either a driver's license or Social Security number, which must match the number they gave when first registering to vote.

    That leaves some voters playing a "guessing game," DeBeauvoir said, because many people cannot recall which number they provided originally and there is no easy way for voters to check.

    Harris County, which includes Houston, had rejected 409 out of 1,373 applications as of last Friday for ID problems, including 309 missing ID numbers and 173 with numbers that did not match those on file, according to Leah Shah, a spokesperson for the county elections office.

    In Bexar County, home to San Antonio, officials had processed more than 300 rejections through last week out of some 1,200 applications, elections administrator Jacquelyn Callanen said in a phone interview. Around 80% of those were due to the new ID requirements.

    Other provisions in the law are also creating obstacles, she said. The office previously added a sticker with voters' addresses to applications that were mailed out to save them a step, but that is no longer permitted, Callanen said.

    The law also prohibits residents from obtaining applications for other people, including relatives. Callanen said her office regularly receives messages from senior citizens asking for ballots for themselves and their spouses; under the law, spouses must make their own separate requests.

    "It's sort of thwarting us at every turn," she said.

    Mail ballots in Texas are already sharply limited to a handful of categories, including residents 65 years and older, disabled residents or voters who will be absent from their county during early voting and Election Day.

    DeBeauvoir said Secretary of State John Scott's office had failed to give local officials enough guidance on how to help voters cure any defects.

    In response, Sam Taylor, a spokesperson for Scott's office, said state officials reached out to Travis County last week to advise staff on the proper process and noted that the county's own estimated rejection rate went down from 50% to 27% following that guidance.

    He said clerks have been instructed to accept applications in which voters have included both their license and Social Security number, as long as one of them matches what is on file.

    (Reporting by Joseph Ax; Editing by Colleen Jenkins and Howard Goller)

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  • Goodness Gracious! The Republican's plan appears to already be working perfectly....thus shocking nobody who is actually paying attention. 


    https://www.usnews.com/news/top-news/articles/2022-01-18/texas-rejects-hundreds-of-mail-ballot-applications-under-new-voting-limits

    Texas Rejects Hundreds of Mail Ballot Applications Under New Voting Limits

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    as Rejects Hundreds of Mail Ballot Applications Under New Voting Limits
    Reuters

    Travis County Clerk Dana DeBeauvoir speaks to the media after Travis County election officials said that due to Texas' new voting law SB1, half of vote-by-mail applications for March primaries had been rejected, in Austin, Texas, U.S. January 18, 2022. REUTERS/Sergio FloresREUTERS

    By Joseph Ax

    (Reuters) - Texas election officials have rejected hundreds of mail-in ballot applications, abiding by a new Republican-backed law just weeks before a March 1 primary kicks off this year's U.S. election cycle.

    "My friends, this is what voter suppression looks like," Democrat Dana DeBeauvoir, the Travis County clerk, told reporters on Tuesday.

    The county, home to the state capital Austin, invalidated approximately 300 applications because people failed to meet the law's stricter identification requirements, said DeBeauvoir, who retires at month's end.

    Lawmakers in Texas approved a raft of voting restrictions last year, one of many efforts in Republican-controlled states to pass new limits after former President Donald Trump falsely claimed he lost the 2020 election because of widespread fraud.

    Democrats in Congress this week renewed their push to pass sweeping voting rights legislation https://www.reuters.com/world/us/us-democrats-start-voting-rights-showdown-with-no-clear-path-victory-2022-01-18 that would overturn limits such as the Texas law, but the effort appears doomed in the face of united Republican opposition.

    The Texas bill prompted some Democratic legislators to flee the state for weeks to prevent the state House of Representatives from having the quorum necessary to pass it, though they eventually relented.

    Republican Texas Governor Greg Abbott, who signed the bill in September and is seeking re-election this year, has said the law, known as Senate Bill 1, will increase public trust in elections.

    The U.S. Justice Department has sued Texas over the legislation, saying it disenfranchises voters. Democrats say such restrictions discriminate against Black voters and other minorities who traditionally support Democratic candidates.

    Among other provisions, the law requires voters applying for a mail ballot to provide either a driver's license or Social Security number, which must match the number they gave when first registering to vote.

    That leaves some voters playing a "guessing game," DeBeauvoir said, because many people cannot recall which number they provided originally and there is no easy way for voters to check.

    Harris County, which includes Houston, had rejected 409 out of 1,373 applications as of last Friday for ID problems, including 309 missing ID numbers and 173 with numbers that did not match those on file, according to Leah Shah, a spokesperson for the county elections office.

    In Bexar County, home to San Antonio, officials had processed more than 300 rejections through last week out of some 1,200 applications, elections administrator Jacquelyn Callanen said in a phone interview. Around 80% of those were due to the new ID requirements.

    Other provisions in the law are also creating obstacles, she said. The office previously added a sticker with voters' addresses to applications that were mailed out to save them a step, but that is no longer permitted, Callanen said.

    The law also prohibits residents from obtaining applications for other people, including relatives. Callanen said her office regularly receives messages from senior citizens asking for ballots for themselves and their spouses; under the law, spouses must make their own separate requests.

    "It's sort of thwarting us at every turn," she said.

    Mail ballots in Texas are already sharply limited to a handful of categories, including residents 65 years and older, disabled residents or voters who will be absent from their county during early voting and Election Day.

    DeBeauvoir said Secretary of State John Scott's office had failed to give local officials enough guidance on how to help voters cure any defects.

    In response, Sam Taylor, a spokesperson for Scott's office, said state officials reached out to Travis County last week to advise staff on the proper process and noted that the county's own estimated rejection rate went down from 50% to 27% following that guidance.

    He said clerks have been instructed to accept applications in which voters have included both their license and Social Security number, as long as one of them matches what is on file.

    (Reporting by Joseph Ax; Editing by Colleen Jenkins and Howard Goller)

    Or, some folks approve of disenfranchisement. How many drop off ballot boxes are left in the largest county that includes Houston after passage of SB1? How many were available prior? And we all know who lives in Houston, right?
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  • JB16057
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    Goodness Gracious! The Republican's plan appears to already be working perfectly....thus shocking nobody who is actually paying attention. 


    https://www.usnews.com/news/top-news/articles/2022-01-18/texas-rejects-hundreds-of-mail-ballot-applications-under-new-voting-limits

    Texas Rejects Hundreds of Mail Ballot Applications Under New Voting Limits

    |
    as Rejects Hundreds of Mail Ballot Applications Under New Voting Limits
    Reuters

    Travis County Clerk Dana DeBeauvoir speaks to the media after Travis County election officials said that due to Texas' new voting law SB1, half of vote-by-mail applications for March primaries had been rejected, in Austin, Texas, U.S. January 18, 2022. REUTERS/Sergio FloresREUTERS

    By Joseph Ax

    (Reuters) - Texas election officials have rejected hundreds of mail-in ballot applications, abiding by a new Republican-backed law just weeks before a March 1 primary kicks off this year's U.S. election cycle.

    "My friends, this is what voter suppression looks like," Democrat Dana DeBeauvoir, the Travis County clerk, told reporters on Tuesday.

    The county, home to the state capital Austin, invalidated approximately 300 applications because people failed to meet the law's stricter identification requirements, said DeBeauvoir, who retires at month's end.

    Lawmakers in Texas approved a raft of voting restrictions last year, one of many efforts in Republican-controlled states to pass new limits after former President Donald Trump falsely claimed he lost the 2020 election because of widespread fraud.

    Democrats in Congress this week renewed their push to pass sweeping voting rights legislation https://www.reuters.com/world/us/us-democrats-start-voting-rights-showdown-with-no-clear-path-victory-2022-01-18 that would overturn limits such as the Texas law, but the effort appears doomed in the face of united Republican opposition.

    The Texas bill prompted some Democratic legislators to flee the state for weeks to prevent the state House of Representatives from having the quorum necessary to pass it, though they eventually relented.

    Republican Texas Governor Greg Abbott, who signed the bill in September and is seeking re-election this year, has said the law, known as Senate Bill 1, will increase public trust in elections.

    The U.S. Justice Department has sued Texas over the legislation, saying it disenfranchises voters. Democrats say such restrictions discriminate against Black voters and other minorities who traditionally support Democratic candidates.

    Among other provisions, the law requires voters applying for a mail ballot to provide either a driver's license or Social Security number, which must match the number they gave when first registering to vote.

    That leaves some voters playing a "guessing game," DeBeauvoir said, because many people cannot recall which number they provided originally and there is no easy way for voters to check.

    Harris County, which includes Houston, had rejected 409 out of 1,373 applications as of last Friday for ID problems, including 309 missing ID numbers and 173 with numbers that did not match those on file, according to Leah Shah, a spokesperson for the county elections office.

    In Bexar County, home to San Antonio, officials had processed more than 300 rejections through last week out of some 1,200 applications, elections administrator Jacquelyn Callanen said in a phone interview. Around 80% of those were due to the new ID requirements.

    Other provisions in the law are also creating obstacles, she said. The office previously added a sticker with voters' addresses to applications that were mailed out to save them a step, but that is no longer permitted, Callanen said.

    The law also prohibits residents from obtaining applications for other people, including relatives. Callanen said her office regularly receives messages from senior citizens asking for ballots for themselves and their spouses; under the law, spouses must make their own separate requests.

    "It's sort of thwarting us at every turn," she said.

    Mail ballots in Texas are already sharply limited to a handful of categories, including residents 65 years and older, disabled residents or voters who will be absent from their county during early voting and Election Day.

    DeBeauvoir said Secretary of State John Scott's office had failed to give local officials enough guidance on how to help voters cure any defects.

    In response, Sam Taylor, a spokesperson for Scott's office, said state officials reached out to Travis County last week to advise staff on the proper process and noted that the county's own estimated rejection rate went down from 50% to 27% following that guidance.

    He said clerks have been instructed to accept applications in which voters have included both their license and Social Security number, as long as one of them matches what is on file.

    (Reporting by Joseph Ax; Editing by Colleen Jenkins and Howard Goller)

    "Under Texas’ new voting law, absentee voters must include their driver’s license number or state ID number or, if they don’t have one, the last four digits of their Social Security number on their applications. If they don’t have those IDs, voters can indicate they have not been issued that identification. Counties must match those numbers against the information in an individual’s voter file to approve them for a mail-in ballot."

    What is the issue with making sure someone is who they say they are?


  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,594
    Goodness Gracious! The Republican's plan appears to already be working perfectly....thus shocking nobody who is actually paying attention. 


    https://www.usnews.com/news/top-news/articles/2022-01-18/texas-rejects-hundreds-of-mail-ballot-applications-under-new-voting-limits

    Texas Rejects Hundreds of Mail Ballot Applications Under New Voting Limits

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    as Rejects Hundreds of Mail Ballot Applications Under New Voting Limits
    Reuters

    Travis County Clerk Dana DeBeauvoir speaks to the media after Travis County election officials said that due to Texas' new voting law SB1, half of vote-by-mail applications for March primaries had been rejected, in Austin, Texas, U.S. January 18, 2022. REUTERS/Sergio FloresREUTERS

    By Joseph Ax

    (Reuters) - Texas election officials have rejected hundreds of mail-in ballot applications, abiding by a new Republican-backed law just weeks before a March 1 primary kicks off this year's U.S. election cycle.

    "My friends, this is what voter suppression looks like," Democrat Dana DeBeauvoir, the Travis County clerk, told reporters on Tuesday.

    The county, home to the state capital Austin, invalidated approximately 300 applications because people failed to meet the law's stricter identification requirements, said DeBeauvoir, who retires at month's end.

    Lawmakers in Texas approved a raft of voting restrictions last year, one of many efforts in Republican-controlled states to pass new limits after former President Donald Trump falsely claimed he lost the 2020 election because of widespread fraud.

    Democrats in Congress this week renewed their push to pass sweeping voting rights legislation https://www.reuters.com/world/us/us-democrats-start-voting-rights-showdown-with-no-clear-path-victory-2022-01-18 that would overturn limits such as the Texas law, but the effort appears doomed in the face of united Republican opposition.

    The Texas bill prompted some Democratic legislators to flee the state for weeks to prevent the state House of Representatives from having the quorum necessary to pass it, though they eventually relented.

    Republican Texas Governor Greg Abbott, who signed the bill in September and is seeking re-election this year, has said the law, known as Senate Bill 1, will increase public trust in elections.

    The U.S. Justice Department has sued Texas over the legislation, saying it disenfranchises voters. Democrats say such restrictions discriminate against Black voters and other minorities who traditionally support Democratic candidates.

    Among other provisions, the law requires voters applying for a mail ballot to provide either a driver's license or Social Security number, which must match the number they gave when first registering to vote.

    That leaves some voters playing a "guessing game," DeBeauvoir said, because many people cannot recall which number they provided originally and there is no easy way for voters to check.

    Harris County, which includes Houston, had rejected 409 out of 1,373 applications as of last Friday for ID problems, including 309 missing ID numbers and 173 with numbers that did not match those on file, according to Leah Shah, a spokesperson for the county elections office.

    In Bexar County, home to San Antonio, officials had processed more than 300 rejections through last week out of some 1,200 applications, elections administrator Jacquelyn Callanen said in a phone interview. Around 80% of those were due to the new ID requirements.

    Other provisions in the law are also creating obstacles, she said. The office previously added a sticker with voters' addresses to applications that were mailed out to save them a step, but that is no longer permitted, Callanen said.

    The law also prohibits residents from obtaining applications for other people, including relatives. Callanen said her office regularly receives messages from senior citizens asking for ballots for themselves and their spouses; under the law, spouses must make their own separate requests.

    "It's sort of thwarting us at every turn," she said.

    Mail ballots in Texas are already sharply limited to a handful of categories, including residents 65 years and older, disabled residents or voters who will be absent from their county during early voting and Election Day.

    DeBeauvoir said Secretary of State John Scott's office had failed to give local officials enough guidance on how to help voters cure any defects.

    In response, Sam Taylor, a spokesperson for Scott's office, said state officials reached out to Travis County last week to advise staff on the proper process and noted that the county's own estimated rejection rate went down from 50% to 27% following that guidance.

    He said clerks have been instructed to accept applications in which voters have included both their license and Social Security number, as long as one of them matches what is on file.

    (Reporting by Joseph Ax; Editing by Colleen Jenkins and Howard Goller)

    Or, some folks approve of disenfranchisement. How many drop off ballot boxes are left in the largest county that includes Houston after passage of SB1? How many were available prior? And we all know who lives in Houston, right?
    No surprise these folks are all in democratic counties too. All according to plan...
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  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,594
    JB16057 said:
    Goodness Gracious! The Republican's plan appears to already be working perfectly....thus shocking nobody who is actually paying attention. 


    https://www.usnews.com/news/top-news/articles/2022-01-18/texas-rejects-hundreds-of-mail-ballot-applications-under-new-voting-limits

    Texas Rejects Hundreds of Mail Ballot Applications Under New Voting Limits

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    as Rejects Hundreds of Mail Ballot Applications Under New Voting Limits
    Reuters

    Travis County Clerk Dana DeBeauvoir speaks to the media after Travis County election officials said that due to Texas' new voting law SB1, half of vote-by-mail applications for March primaries had been rejected, in Austin, Texas, U.S. January 18, 2022. REUTERS/Sergio FloresREUTERS

    By Joseph Ax

    (Reuters) - Texas election officials have rejected hundreds of mail-in ballot applications, abiding by a new Republican-backed law just weeks before a March 1 primary kicks off this year's U.S. election cycle.

    "My friends, this is what voter suppression looks like," Democrat Dana DeBeauvoir, the Travis County clerk, told reporters on Tuesday.

    The county, home to the state capital Austin, invalidated approximately 300 applications because people failed to meet the law's stricter identification requirements, said DeBeauvoir, who retires at month's end.

    Lawmakers in Texas approved a raft of voting restrictions last year, one of many efforts in Republican-controlled states to pass new limits after former President Donald Trump falsely claimed he lost the 2020 election because of widespread fraud.

    Democrats in Congress this week renewed their push to pass sweeping voting rights legislation https://www.reuters.com/world/us/us-democrats-start-voting-rights-showdown-with-no-clear-path-victory-2022-01-18 that would overturn limits such as the Texas law, but the effort appears doomed in the face of united Republican opposition.

    The Texas bill prompted some Democratic legislators to flee the state for weeks to prevent the state House of Representatives from having the quorum necessary to pass it, though they eventually relented.

    Republican Texas Governor Greg Abbott, who signed the bill in September and is seeking re-election this year, has said the law, known as Senate Bill 1, will increase public trust in elections.

    The U.S. Justice Department has sued Texas over the legislation, saying it disenfranchises voters. Democrats say such restrictions discriminate against Black voters and other minorities who traditionally support Democratic candidates.

    Among other provisions, the law requires voters applying for a mail ballot to provide either a driver's license or Social Security number, which must match the number they gave when first registering to vote.

    That leaves some voters playing a "guessing game," DeBeauvoir said, because many people cannot recall which number they provided originally and there is no easy way for voters to check.

    Harris County, which includes Houston, had rejected 409 out of 1,373 applications as of last Friday for ID problems, including 309 missing ID numbers and 173 with numbers that did not match those on file, according to Leah Shah, a spokesperson for the county elections office.

    In Bexar County, home to San Antonio, officials had processed more than 300 rejections through last week out of some 1,200 applications, elections administrator Jacquelyn Callanen said in a phone interview. Around 80% of those were due to the new ID requirements.

    Other provisions in the law are also creating obstacles, she said. The office previously added a sticker with voters' addresses to applications that were mailed out to save them a step, but that is no longer permitted, Callanen said.

    The law also prohibits residents from obtaining applications for other people, including relatives. Callanen said her office regularly receives messages from senior citizens asking for ballots for themselves and their spouses; under the law, spouses must make their own separate requests.

    "It's sort of thwarting us at every turn," she said.

    Mail ballots in Texas are already sharply limited to a handful of categories, including residents 65 years and older, disabled residents or voters who will be absent from their county during early voting and Election Day.

    DeBeauvoir said Secretary of State John Scott's office had failed to give local officials enough guidance on how to help voters cure any defects.

    In response, Sam Taylor, a spokesperson for Scott's office, said state officials reached out to Travis County last week to advise staff on the proper process and noted that the county's own estimated rejection rate went down from 50% to 27% following that guidance.

    He said clerks have been instructed to accept applications in which voters have included both their license and Social Security number, as long as one of them matches what is on file.

    (Reporting by Joseph Ax; Editing by Colleen Jenkins and Howard Goller)

    "Under Texas’ new voting law, absentee voters must include their driver’s license number or state ID number or, if they don’t have one, the last four digits of their Social Security number on their applications. If they don’t have those IDs, voters can indicate they have not been issued that identification. Counties must match those numbers against the information in an individual’s voter file to approve them for a mail-in ballot."

    What is the issue with making sure someone is who they say they are?



    Why add additional barriers to solve an imaginary problem? Healthy democracies do not purposefully put barriers in place to make it more difficult for people to vote. 

    The answer to your question lies in the very same article you are replying to, but I am assuming did not read. 

    Among other provisions, the law requires voters applying for a mail ballot to provide either a driver's license or Social Security number, which must match the number they gave when first registering to vote.

    That leaves some voters playing a "guessing game," DeBeauvoir said, because many people cannot recall which number they provided originally and there is no easy way for voters to check.

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  • JB16057
    JB16057 Posts: 1,269
    JB16057 said:
    Goodness Gracious! The Republican's plan appears to already be working perfectly....thus shocking nobody who is actually paying attention. 


    https://www.usnews.com/news/top-news/articles/2022-01-18/texas-rejects-hundreds-of-mail-ballot-applications-under-new-voting-limits

    Texas Rejects Hundreds of Mail Ballot Applications Under New Voting Limits

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    as Rejects Hundreds of Mail Ballot Applications Under New Voting Limits
    Reuters

    Travis County Clerk Dana DeBeauvoir speaks to the media after Travis County election officials said that due to Texas' new voting law SB1, half of vote-by-mail applications for March primaries had been rejected, in Austin, Texas, U.S. January 18, 2022. REUTERS/Sergio FloresREUTERS

    By Joseph Ax

    (Reuters) - Texas election officials have rejected hundreds of mail-in ballot applications, abiding by a new Republican-backed law just weeks before a March 1 primary kicks off this year's U.S. election cycle.

    "My friends, this is what voter suppression looks like," Democrat Dana DeBeauvoir, the Travis County clerk, told reporters on Tuesday.

    The county, home to the state capital Austin, invalidated approximately 300 applications because people failed to meet the law's stricter identification requirements, said DeBeauvoir, who retires at month's end.

    Lawmakers in Texas approved a raft of voting restrictions last year, one of many efforts in Republican-controlled states to pass new limits after former President Donald Trump falsely claimed he lost the 2020 election because of widespread fraud.

    Democrats in Congress this week renewed their push to pass sweeping voting rights legislation https://www.reuters.com/world/us/us-democrats-start-voting-rights-showdown-with-no-clear-path-victory-2022-01-18 that would overturn limits such as the Texas law, but the effort appears doomed in the face of united Republican opposition.

    The Texas bill prompted some Democratic legislators to flee the state for weeks to prevent the state House of Representatives from having the quorum necessary to pass it, though they eventually relented.

    Republican Texas Governor Greg Abbott, who signed the bill in September and is seeking re-election this year, has said the law, known as Senate Bill 1, will increase public trust in elections.

    The U.S. Justice Department has sued Texas over the legislation, saying it disenfranchises voters. Democrats say such restrictions discriminate against Black voters and other minorities who traditionally support Democratic candidates.

    Among other provisions, the law requires voters applying for a mail ballot to provide either a driver's license or Social Security number, which must match the number they gave when first registering to vote.

    That leaves some voters playing a "guessing game," DeBeauvoir said, because many people cannot recall which number they provided originally and there is no easy way for voters to check.

    Harris County, which includes Houston, had rejected 409 out of 1,373 applications as of last Friday for ID problems, including 309 missing ID numbers and 173 with numbers that did not match those on file, according to Leah Shah, a spokesperson for the county elections office.

    In Bexar County, home to San Antonio, officials had processed more than 300 rejections through last week out of some 1,200 applications, elections administrator Jacquelyn Callanen said in a phone interview. Around 80% of those were due to the new ID requirements.

    Other provisions in the law are also creating obstacles, she said. The office previously added a sticker with voters' addresses to applications that were mailed out to save them a step, but that is no longer permitted, Callanen said.

    The law also prohibits residents from obtaining applications for other people, including relatives. Callanen said her office regularly receives messages from senior citizens asking for ballots for themselves and their spouses; under the law, spouses must make their own separate requests.

    "It's sort of thwarting us at every turn," she said.

    Mail ballots in Texas are already sharply limited to a handful of categories, including residents 65 years and older, disabled residents or voters who will be absent from their county during early voting and Election Day.

    DeBeauvoir said Secretary of State John Scott's office had failed to give local officials enough guidance on how to help voters cure any defects.

    In response, Sam Taylor, a spokesperson for Scott's office, said state officials reached out to Travis County last week to advise staff on the proper process and noted that the county's own estimated rejection rate went down from 50% to 27% following that guidance.

    He said clerks have been instructed to accept applications in which voters have included both their license and Social Security number, as long as one of them matches what is on file.

    (Reporting by Joseph Ax; Editing by Colleen Jenkins and Howard Goller)

    "Under Texas’ new voting law, absentee voters must include their driver’s license number or state ID number or, if they don’t have one, the last four digits of their Social Security number on their applications. If they don’t have those IDs, voters can indicate they have not been issued that identification. Counties must match those numbers against the information in an individual’s voter file to approve them for a mail-in ballot."

    What is the issue with making sure someone is who they say they are?



    Why add additional barriers to solve an imaginary problem? Healthy democracies do not purposefully put barriers in place to make it more difficult for people to vote. 

    The answer to your question lies in the very same article you are replying to, but I am assuming did not read. 

    Among other provisions, the law requires voters applying for a mail ballot to provide either a driver's license or Social Security number, which must match the number they gave when first registering to vote.

    That leaves some voters playing a "guessing game," DeBeauvoir said, because many people cannot recall which number they provided originally and there is no easy way for voters to check.

    There is no easy way for voters to check? I have a hard time believing that. They can't call their local county election office and check?

  • HughFreakingDillon
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    i've said it before and i'll say it again....in manitoba, we need a driver's license or government issued ID to vote. AND you need to have your voting card that was mailed to you. AND you have to go to a specific polling station. 

    I don't hear anyone in canada complaining about voter suppression. 

    now, I think there are nefarious efforts by republicans to fuck with the vote (gerrymandering, for example), but I've never seen an issue with proving you are eligible to vote. 
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  • JB16057 said:
    Goodness Gracious! The Republican's plan appears to already be working perfectly....thus shocking nobody who is actually paying attention. 


    https://www.usnews.com/news/top-news/articles/2022-01-18/texas-rejects-hundreds-of-mail-ballot-applications-under-new-voting-limits

    Texas Rejects Hundreds of Mail Ballot Applications Under New Voting Limits

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    as Rejects Hundreds of Mail Ballot Applications Under New Voting Limits
    Reuters

    Travis County Clerk Dana DeBeauvoir speaks to the media after Travis County election officials said that due to Texas' new voting law SB1, half of vote-by-mail applications for March primaries had been rejected, in Austin, Texas, U.S. January 18, 2022. REUTERS/Sergio FloresREUTERS

    By Joseph Ax

    (Reuters) - Texas election officials have rejected hundreds of mail-in ballot applications, abiding by a new Republican-backed law just weeks before a March 1 primary kicks off this year's U.S. election cycle.

    "My friends, this is what voter suppression looks like," Democrat Dana DeBeauvoir, the Travis County clerk, told reporters on Tuesday.

    The county, home to the state capital Austin, invalidated approximately 300 applications because people failed to meet the law's stricter identification requirements, said DeBeauvoir, who retires at month's end.

    Lawmakers in Texas approved a raft of voting restrictions last year, one of many efforts in Republican-controlled states to pass new limits after former President Donald Trump falsely claimed he lost the 2020 election because of widespread fraud.

    Democrats in Congress this week renewed their push to pass sweeping voting rights legislation https://www.reuters.com/world/us/us-democrats-start-voting-rights-showdown-with-no-clear-path-victory-2022-01-18 that would overturn limits such as the Texas law, but the effort appears doomed in the face of united Republican opposition.

    The Texas bill prompted some Democratic legislators to flee the state for weeks to prevent the state House of Representatives from having the quorum necessary to pass it, though they eventually relented.

    Republican Texas Governor Greg Abbott, who signed the bill in September and is seeking re-election this year, has said the law, known as Senate Bill 1, will increase public trust in elections.

    The U.S. Justice Department has sued Texas over the legislation, saying it disenfranchises voters. Democrats say such restrictions discriminate against Black voters and other minorities who traditionally support Democratic candidates.

    Among other provisions, the law requires voters applying for a mail ballot to provide either a driver's license or Social Security number, which must match the number they gave when first registering to vote.

    That leaves some voters playing a "guessing game," DeBeauvoir said, because many people cannot recall which number they provided originally and there is no easy way for voters to check.

    Harris County, which includes Houston, had rejected 409 out of 1,373 applications as of last Friday for ID problems, including 309 missing ID numbers and 173 with numbers that did not match those on file, according to Leah Shah, a spokesperson for the county elections office.

    In Bexar County, home to San Antonio, officials had processed more than 300 rejections through last week out of some 1,200 applications, elections administrator Jacquelyn Callanen said in a phone interview. Around 80% of those were due to the new ID requirements.

    Other provisions in the law are also creating obstacles, she said. The office previously added a sticker with voters' addresses to applications that were mailed out to save them a step, but that is no longer permitted, Callanen said.

    The law also prohibits residents from obtaining applications for other people, including relatives. Callanen said her office regularly receives messages from senior citizens asking for ballots for themselves and their spouses; under the law, spouses must make their own separate requests.

    "It's sort of thwarting us at every turn," she said.

    Mail ballots in Texas are already sharply limited to a handful of categories, including residents 65 years and older, disabled residents or voters who will be absent from their county during early voting and Election Day.

    DeBeauvoir said Secretary of State John Scott's office had failed to give local officials enough guidance on how to help voters cure any defects.

    In response, Sam Taylor, a spokesperson for Scott's office, said state officials reached out to Travis County last week to advise staff on the proper process and noted that the county's own estimated rejection rate went down from 50% to 27% following that guidance.

    He said clerks have been instructed to accept applications in which voters have included both their license and Social Security number, as long as one of them matches what is on file.

    (Reporting by Joseph Ax; Editing by Colleen Jenkins and Howard Goller)

    "Under Texas’ new voting law, absentee voters must include their driver’s license number or state ID number or, if they don’t have one, the last four digits of their Social Security number on their applications. If they don’t have those IDs, voters can indicate they have not been issued that identification. Counties must match those numbers against the information in an individual’s voter file to approve them for a mail-in ballot."

    What is the issue with making sure someone is who they say they are?



    Why add additional barriers to solve an imaginary problem? Healthy democracies do not purposefully put barriers in place to make it more difficult for people to vote. 

    The answer to your question lies in the very same article you are replying to, but I am assuming did not read. 

    Among other provisions, the law requires voters applying for a mail ballot to provide either a driver's license or Social Security number, which must match the number they gave when first registering to vote.

    That leaves some voters playing a "guessing game," DeBeauvoir said, because many people cannot recall which number they provided originally and there is no easy way for voters to check.

    Imagine that? Coming up with a way to invalidate a ballot on a legal “technicality.” Sorry, you used your DL # last time and your SS# this time and regardless, that 3 looks like an 8 and we don’t have that number matching up with that name on file. Thanks for living in Tejas and paying taxes without representation.
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  • JB16057
    JB16057 Posts: 1,269
    JB16057 said:
    Goodness Gracious! The Republican's plan appears to already be working perfectly....thus shocking nobody who is actually paying attention. 


    https://www.usnews.com/news/top-news/articles/2022-01-18/texas-rejects-hundreds-of-mail-ballot-applications-under-new-voting-limits

    Texas Rejects Hundreds of Mail Ballot Applications Under New Voting Limits

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    as Rejects Hundreds of Mail Ballot Applications Under New Voting Limits
    Reuters

    Travis County Clerk Dana DeBeauvoir speaks to the media after Travis County election officials said that due to Texas' new voting law SB1, half of vote-by-mail applications for March primaries had been rejected, in Austin, Texas, U.S. January 18, 2022. REUTERS/Sergio FloresREUTERS

    By Joseph Ax

    (Reuters) - Texas election officials have rejected hundreds of mail-in ballot applications, abiding by a new Republican-backed law just weeks before a March 1 primary kicks off this year's U.S. election cycle.

    "My friends, this is what voter suppression looks like," Democrat Dana DeBeauvoir, the Travis County clerk, told reporters on Tuesday.

    The county, home to the state capital Austin, invalidated approximately 300 applications because people failed to meet the law's stricter identification requirements, said DeBeauvoir, who retires at month's end.

    Lawmakers in Texas approved a raft of voting restrictions last year, one of many efforts in Republican-controlled states to pass new limits after former President Donald Trump falsely claimed he lost the 2020 election because of widespread fraud.

    Democrats in Congress this week renewed their push to pass sweeping voting rights legislation https://www.reuters.com/world/us/us-democrats-start-voting-rights-showdown-with-no-clear-path-victory-2022-01-18 that would overturn limits such as the Texas law, but the effort appears doomed in the face of united Republican opposition.

    The Texas bill prompted some Democratic legislators to flee the state for weeks to prevent the state House of Representatives from having the quorum necessary to pass it, though they eventually relented.

    Republican Texas Governor Greg Abbott, who signed the bill in September and is seeking re-election this year, has said the law, known as Senate Bill 1, will increase public trust in elections.

    The U.S. Justice Department has sued Texas over the legislation, saying it disenfranchises voters. Democrats say such restrictions discriminate against Black voters and other minorities who traditionally support Democratic candidates.

    Among other provisions, the law requires voters applying for a mail ballot to provide either a driver's license or Social Security number, which must match the number they gave when first registering to vote.

    That leaves some voters playing a "guessing game," DeBeauvoir said, because many people cannot recall which number they provided originally and there is no easy way for voters to check.

    Harris County, which includes Houston, had rejected 409 out of 1,373 applications as of last Friday for ID problems, including 309 missing ID numbers and 173 with numbers that did not match those on file, according to Leah Shah, a spokesperson for the county elections office.

    In Bexar County, home to San Antonio, officials had processed more than 300 rejections through last week out of some 1,200 applications, elections administrator Jacquelyn Callanen said in a phone interview. Around 80% of those were due to the new ID requirements.

    Other provisions in the law are also creating obstacles, she said. The office previously added a sticker with voters' addresses to applications that were mailed out to save them a step, but that is no longer permitted, Callanen said.

    The law also prohibits residents from obtaining applications for other people, including relatives. Callanen said her office regularly receives messages from senior citizens asking for ballots for themselves and their spouses; under the law, spouses must make their own separate requests.

    "It's sort of thwarting us at every turn," she said.

    Mail ballots in Texas are already sharply limited to a handful of categories, including residents 65 years and older, disabled residents or voters who will be absent from their county during early voting and Election Day.

    DeBeauvoir said Secretary of State John Scott's office had failed to give local officials enough guidance on how to help voters cure any defects.

    In response, Sam Taylor, a spokesperson for Scott's office, said state officials reached out to Travis County last week to advise staff on the proper process and noted that the county's own estimated rejection rate went down from 50% to 27% following that guidance.

    He said clerks have been instructed to accept applications in which voters have included both their license and Social Security number, as long as one of them matches what is on file.

    (Reporting by Joseph Ax; Editing by Colleen Jenkins and Howard Goller)

    "Under Texas’ new voting law, absentee voters must include their driver’s license number or state ID number or, if they don’t have one, the last four digits of their Social Security number on their applications. If they don’t have those IDs, voters can indicate they have not been issued that identification. Counties must match those numbers against the information in an individual’s voter file to approve them for a mail-in ballot."

    What is the issue with making sure someone is who they say they are?



    Why add additional barriers to solve an imaginary problem? Healthy democracies do not purposefully put barriers in place to make it more difficult for people to vote. 

    The answer to your question lies in the very same article you are replying to, but I am assuming did not read. 

    Among other provisions, the law requires voters applying for a mail ballot to provide either a driver's license or Social Security number, which must match the number they gave when first registering to vote.

    That leaves some voters playing a "guessing game," DeBeauvoir said, because many people cannot recall which number they provided originally and there is no easy way for voters to check.


    The very first FAQ explains how to look this information up and even says, call the voter registrar's office.