Joe Manchin
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So only men can comment on men's clothing and then only women can comment on women's clothing? Or can no one comment on anyone's clothing? I guess if someone is dressed inappropriately then I would think a man or woman could comment on it.Meltdown99 said:Men telling females what to wear is never ok. Making fun of females choices in dress is even worse. This 2021.
I just don't see why a grown adult can't be mature enough to comment on whether clothing is appropriate or not. It seems like adults are required to make much more significant judgments than if clothing is appropriate or not.
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https://www.cnn.com/2021/11/01/politics/joe-manchin-biden-agenda/index.html President Manchin moving the goalposts and calling the shots again...I'm sure glad that he and his agenda got more votes than any politician in history.
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Presidential election was 51% to 47%. Senate is basically 50/50. The country is basically split. End of the day Biden won the election and that matters but it isn't like it is some overwhelming majority that supports the Dems. I would venture if Trump ran against Biden today Trump would win.static111 said:https://www.cnn.com/2021/11/01/politics/joe-manchin-biden-agenda/index.html President Manchin moving the goalposts and calling the shots again...I'm sure glad that he and his agenda got more votes than any politician in history.0 -
Any comment on all the females who criticized her for her outfit? Faux outrage is all the rage in 2021....Meltdown99 said:Men telling females what to wear is never ok. Making fun of females choices in dress is even worse. This 2021.www.myspace.com0 -
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Any comment on all the females who criticized her for her outfit? Faux outrage is all the rage in 2021....Meltdown99 said:Men telling females what to wear is never ok. Making fun of females choices in dress is even worse. This 2021.HR depts do it all the time in the workplace with no problem.saying its not appropriate attire for the circumstances and environment isnt making fun. its demanding better of those who represent us. and THAT is always appropriate._____________________________________SIGNATURE________________________________________________
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Yeah. You shouldn't have to be of a certain gender to acknowledge that a denim vest is inappropriate attire for senate floor.mickeyrat said:The Juggler said:
Any comment on all the females who criticized her for her outfit? Faux outrage is all the rage in 2021....Meltdown99 said:Men telling females what to wear is never ok. Making fun of females choices in dress is even worse. This 2021.HR depts do it all the time in the workplace with no problem.saying its not appropriate attire for the circumstances and environment isnt making fun. its demanding better of those who represent us. and THAT is always appropriate.www.myspace.com0 -
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Let’s Go Manchin!Halifax2TheMax said:Fuck Joe Manchin.0 -
So Senator Manchin is for paid family leave but wants a payroll tax on the employer/employee to fund it and for only 4 weeks. Way to support the working folk, Joe.09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;
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Hopefully that harassment from the far left protestors will change his mind. Blocking someone from driving to work, screaming at them, and then pretending he was running you over should work 🙄Post edited by nicknyr15 on0
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Yup. Smart people.nicknyr15 said:Hopefully that harassment from the far left protestors will change his mind. Blocking someone from driving to work, screaming at them, and then pretending he was running you over should work 🙄hippiemom = goodness0 -
Goodbye 'godsend': Expiration of child tax credits hits homeBy JOHN RABY, FATIMA HUSSEIN and JOSH BOAK14 Jan 2022
CHARLESTON, W.Va. (AP) — For the first time in half a year, families on Friday are going without a monthly deposit from the child tax credit — a program that was intended to be part of President Joe Biden's legacy but has emerged instead as a flash point over who is worthy of government support.
Retiree Andy Roberts, from St. Albans, West Virginia, relied on the checks to help raise his two young grandchildren, whom he and his wife adopted because the birth parents are recovering from drug addiction.
The Robertses are now out $550 a month. That money helped pay for Girl Scouts, ballet and acting lessons and kids' shoes, which Roberts noted are more expensive than adult shoes. The tax credit, he said, was a “godsend.”
“It’ll make you tighten up your belt, if you’ve got anything to tighten,” Roberts said about losing the payments.
The monthly tax credits were part of Biden's $1.9 trillion coronavirus relief package — and the president had proposed extending them for another full year as part of a separate measure focused on economic and social programs.
But Democratic Sen. Joe Manchin, from Roberts' home state of West Virginia, objected to extending the credit out of concern that the money would discourage people from working and that any additional federal spending would fuel inflation that has already climbed to a nearly 40-year high.
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mickeyrat said:Goodbye 'godsend': Expiration of child tax credits hits homeBy JOHN RABY, FATIMA HUSSEIN and JOSH BOAK14 Jan 2022
CHARLESTON, W.Va. (AP) — For the first time in half a year, families on Friday are going without a monthly deposit from the child tax credit — a program that was intended to be part of President Joe Biden's legacy but has emerged instead as a flash point over who is worthy of government support.
Retiree Andy Roberts, from St. Albans, West Virginia, relied on the checks to help raise his two young grandchildren, whom he and his wife adopted because the birth parents are recovering from drug addiction.
The Robertses are now out $550 a month. That money helped pay for Girl Scouts, ballet and acting lessons and kids' shoes, which Roberts noted are more expensive than adult shoes. The tax credit, he said, was a “godsend.”
“It’ll make you tighten up your belt, if you’ve got anything to tighten,” Roberts said about losing the payments.
The monthly tax credits were part of Biden's $1.9 trillion coronavirus relief package — and the president had proposed extending them for another full year as part of a separate measure focused on economic and social programs.
But Democratic Sen. Joe Manchin, from Roberts' home state of West Virginia, objected to extending the credit out of concern that the money would discourage people from working and that any additional federal spending would fuel inflation that has already climbed to a nearly 40-year high.
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I fully agree with Manchin. If you are wanting a tax credit, you should have to work and pay taxes. I don't think it will discourage people from working because it's not that much money but there plenty of shitty parents who will use this money to support their habits instead of supporting their children. That's a shame. On the other hand, there are plenty of parents who need this money but we can't just hand out money that we don't have. If you want that kind of money, go get a credit card. Don't worry, you don't have to pay it back today but eventually, you will have to pay that money back.I think it is funny how this article states this, "The Roberts are now out $550 a month". No, you aren't out anything. It was never a permanent handout and you never should have relied on it as such.
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Nice compassion. Fuck the grandkids, right? Talking about money we don’t have to give away, where were you when POOTWH and his ilk passed the $1.7 trillion tax cut for the corporations and tax payers that “didn’t need it?”JB16057 said:mickeyrat said:Goodbye 'godsend': Expiration of child tax credits hits homeBy JOHN RABY, FATIMA HUSSEIN and JOSH BOAK14 Jan 2022CHARLESTON, W.Va. (AP) — For the first time in half a year, families on Friday are going without a monthly deposit from the child tax credit — a program that was intended to be part of President Joe Biden's legacy but has emerged instead as a flash point over who is worthy of government support.
Retiree Andy Roberts, from St. Albans, West Virginia, relied on the checks to help raise his two young grandchildren, whom he and his wife adopted because the birth parents are recovering from drug addiction.
The Robertses are now out $550 a month. That money helped pay for Girl Scouts, ballet and acting lessons and kids' shoes, which Roberts noted are more expensive than adult shoes. The tax credit, he said, was a “godsend.”
“It’ll make you tighten up your belt, if you’ve got anything to tighten,” Roberts said about losing the payments.
The monthly tax credits were part of Biden's $1.9 trillion coronavirus relief package — and the president had proposed extending them for another full year as part of a separate measure focused on economic and social programs.
But Democratic Sen. Joe Manchin, from Roberts' home state of West Virginia, objected to extending the credit out of concern that the money would discourage people from working and that any additional federal spending would fuel inflation that has already climbed to a nearly 40-year high.
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I fully agree with Manchin. If you are wanting a tax credit, you should have to work and pay taxes. I don't think it will discourage people from working because it's not that much money but there plenty of shitty parents who will use this money to support their habits instead of supporting their children. That's a shame. On the other hand, there are plenty of parents who need this money but we can't just hand out money that we don't have. If you want that kind of money, go get a credit card. Don't worry, you don't have to pay it back today but eventually, you will have to pay that money back.I think it is funny how this article states this, "The Roberts are now out $550 a month". No, you aren't out anything. It was never a permanent handout and you never should have relied on it as such.09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;
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pssst click the link and read the entire article.....JB16057 said:mickeyrat said:Goodbye 'godsend': Expiration of child tax credits hits homeBy JOHN RABY, FATIMA HUSSEIN and JOSH BOAK14 Jan 2022CHARLESTON, W.Va. (AP) — For the first time in half a year, families on Friday are going without a monthly deposit from the child tax credit — a program that was intended to be part of President Joe Biden's legacy but has emerged instead as a flash point over who is worthy of government support.
Retiree Andy Roberts, from St. Albans, West Virginia, relied on the checks to help raise his two young grandchildren, whom he and his wife adopted because the birth parents are recovering from drug addiction.
The Robertses are now out $550 a month. That money helped pay for Girl Scouts, ballet and acting lessons and kids' shoes, which Roberts noted are more expensive than adult shoes. The tax credit, he said, was a “godsend.”
“It’ll make you tighten up your belt, if you’ve got anything to tighten,” Roberts said about losing the payments.
The monthly tax credits were part of Biden's $1.9 trillion coronavirus relief package — and the president had proposed extending them for another full year as part of a separate measure focused on economic and social programs.
But Democratic Sen. Joe Manchin, from Roberts' home state of West Virginia, objected to extending the credit out of concern that the money would discourage people from working and that any additional federal spending would fuel inflation that has already climbed to a nearly 40-year high.
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I fully agree with Manchin. If you are wanting a tax credit, you should have to work and pay taxes. I don't think it will discourage people from working because it's not that much money but there plenty of shitty parents who will use this money to support their habits instead of supporting their children. That's a shame. On the other hand, there are plenty of parents who need this money but we can't just hand out money that we don't have. If you want that kind of money, go get a credit card. Don't worry, you don't have to pay it back today but eventually, you will have to pay that money back.I think it is funny how this article states this, "The Roberts are now out $550 a month". No, you aren't out anything. It was never a permanent handout and you never should have relied on it as such.
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I have more compassion than most so you don't know what you're talking about.Halifax2TheMax said:
Nice compassion. Fuck the grandkids, right? Talking about money we don’t have to give away, where were you when POOTWH and his ilk passed the $1.7 trillion tax cut for the corporations and tax payers that “didn’t need it?”JB16057 said:mickeyrat said:Goodbye 'godsend': Expiration of child tax credits hits homeBy JOHN RABY, FATIMA HUSSEIN and JOSH BOAK14 Jan 2022CHARLESTON, W.Va. (AP) — For the first time in half a year, families on Friday are going without a monthly deposit from the child tax credit — a program that was intended to be part of President Joe Biden's legacy but has emerged instead as a flash point over who is worthy of government support.
Retiree Andy Roberts, from St. Albans, West Virginia, relied on the checks to help raise his two young grandchildren, whom he and his wife adopted because the birth parents are recovering from drug addiction.
The Robertses are now out $550 a month. That money helped pay for Girl Scouts, ballet and acting lessons and kids' shoes, which Roberts noted are more expensive than adult shoes. The tax credit, he said, was a “godsend.”
“It’ll make you tighten up your belt, if you’ve got anything to tighten,” Roberts said about losing the payments.
The monthly tax credits were part of Biden's $1.9 trillion coronavirus relief package — and the president had proposed extending them for another full year as part of a separate measure focused on economic and social programs.
But Democratic Sen. Joe Manchin, from Roberts' home state of West Virginia, objected to extending the credit out of concern that the money would discourage people from working and that any additional federal spending would fuel inflation that has already climbed to a nearly 40-year high.
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I fully agree with Manchin. If you are wanting a tax credit, you should have to work and pay taxes. I don't think it will discourage people from working because it's not that much money but there plenty of shitty parents who will use this money to support their habits instead of supporting their children. That's a shame. On the other hand, there are plenty of parents who need this money but we can't just hand out money that we don't have. If you want that kind of money, go get a credit card. Don't worry, you don't have to pay it back today but eventually, you will have to pay that money back.I think it is funny how this article states this, "The Roberts are now out $550 a month". No, you aren't out anything. It was never a permanent handout and you never should have relied on it as such.
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Why don't you tell me what you think I missed?mickeyrat said:
pssst click the link and read the entire article.....JB16057 said:mickeyrat said:Goodbye 'godsend': Expiration of child tax credits hits homeBy JOHN RABY, FATIMA HUSSEIN and JOSH BOAK14 Jan 2022CHARLESTON, W.Va. (AP) — For the first time in half a year, families on Friday are going without a monthly deposit from the child tax credit — a program that was intended to be part of President Joe Biden's legacy but has emerged instead as a flash point over who is worthy of government support.
Retiree Andy Roberts, from St. Albans, West Virginia, relied on the checks to help raise his two young grandchildren, whom he and his wife adopted because the birth parents are recovering from drug addiction.
The Robertses are now out $550 a month. That money helped pay for Girl Scouts, ballet and acting lessons and kids' shoes, which Roberts noted are more expensive than adult shoes. The tax credit, he said, was a “godsend.”
“It’ll make you tighten up your belt, if you’ve got anything to tighten,” Roberts said about losing the payments.
The monthly tax credits were part of Biden's $1.9 trillion coronavirus relief package — and the president had proposed extending them for another full year as part of a separate measure focused on economic and social programs.
But Democratic Sen. Joe Manchin, from Roberts' home state of West Virginia, objected to extending the credit out of concern that the money would discourage people from working and that any additional federal spending would fuel inflation that has already climbed to a nearly 40-year high.
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I fully agree with Manchin. If you are wanting a tax credit, you should have to work and pay taxes. I don't think it will discourage people from working because it's not that much money but there plenty of shitty parents who will use this money to support their habits instead of supporting their children. That's a shame. On the other hand, there are plenty of parents who need this money but we can't just hand out money that we don't have. If you want that kind of money, go get a credit card. Don't worry, you don't have to pay it back today but eventually, you will have to pay that money back.I think it is funny how this article states this, "The Roberts are now out $550 a month". No, you aren't out anything. It was never a permanent handout and you never should have relied on it as such.
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no. you should read it for yourself, as written by the ap reporter. wouldnt it to be skewed by my point of view would you?JB16057 said:
Why don't you tell me what you think I missed?mickeyrat said:
pssst click the link and read the entire article.....JB16057 said:mickeyrat said:Goodbye 'godsend': Expiration of child tax credits hits homeBy JOHN RABY, FATIMA HUSSEIN and JOSH BOAK14 Jan 2022CHARLESTON, W.Va. (AP) — For the first time in half a year, families on Friday are going without a monthly deposit from the child tax credit — a program that was intended to be part of President Joe Biden's legacy but has emerged instead as a flash point over who is worthy of government support.
Retiree Andy Roberts, from St. Albans, West Virginia, relied on the checks to help raise his two young grandchildren, whom he and his wife adopted because the birth parents are recovering from drug addiction.
The Robertses are now out $550 a month. That money helped pay for Girl Scouts, ballet and acting lessons and kids' shoes, which Roberts noted are more expensive than adult shoes. The tax credit, he said, was a “godsend.”
“It’ll make you tighten up your belt, if you’ve got anything to tighten,” Roberts said about losing the payments.
The monthly tax credits were part of Biden's $1.9 trillion coronavirus relief package — and the president had proposed extending them for another full year as part of a separate measure focused on economic and social programs.
But Democratic Sen. Joe Manchin, from Roberts' home state of West Virginia, objected to extending the credit out of concern that the money would discourage people from working and that any additional federal spending would fuel inflation that has already climbed to a nearly 40-year high.
continues......
I fully agree with Manchin. If you are wanting a tax credit, you should have to work and pay taxes. I don't think it will discourage people from working because it's not that much money but there plenty of shitty parents who will use this money to support their habits instead of supporting their children. That's a shame. On the other hand, there are plenty of parents who need this money but we can't just hand out money that we don't have. If you want that kind of money, go get a credit card. Don't worry, you don't have to pay it back today but eventually, you will have to pay that money back.I think it is funny how this article states this, "The Roberts are now out $550 a month". No, you aren't out anything. It was never a permanent handout and you never should have relied on it as such.
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I did read it and still don't know what you're talking about.mickeyrat said:
no. you should read it for yourself, as written by the ap reporter. wouldnt it to be skewed by my point of view would you?JB16057 said:
Why don't you tell me what you think I missed?mickeyrat said:
pssst click the link and read the entire article.....JB16057 said:mickeyrat said:Goodbye 'godsend': Expiration of child tax credits hits homeBy JOHN RABY, FATIMA HUSSEIN and JOSH BOAK14 Jan 2022CHARLESTON, W.Va. (AP) — For the first time in half a year, families on Friday are going without a monthly deposit from the child tax credit — a program that was intended to be part of President Joe Biden's legacy but has emerged instead as a flash point over who is worthy of government support.
Retiree Andy Roberts, from St. Albans, West Virginia, relied on the checks to help raise his two young grandchildren, whom he and his wife adopted because the birth parents are recovering from drug addiction.
The Robertses are now out $550 a month. That money helped pay for Girl Scouts, ballet and acting lessons and kids' shoes, which Roberts noted are more expensive than adult shoes. The tax credit, he said, was a “godsend.”
“It’ll make you tighten up your belt, if you’ve got anything to tighten,” Roberts said about losing the payments.
The monthly tax credits were part of Biden's $1.9 trillion coronavirus relief package — and the president had proposed extending them for another full year as part of a separate measure focused on economic and social programs.
But Democratic Sen. Joe Manchin, from Roberts' home state of West Virginia, objected to extending the credit out of concern that the money would discourage people from working and that any additional federal spending would fuel inflation that has already climbed to a nearly 40-year high.
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I fully agree with Manchin. If you are wanting a tax credit, you should have to work and pay taxes. I don't think it will discourage people from working because it's not that much money but there plenty of shitty parents who will use this money to support their habits instead of supporting their children. That's a shame. On the other hand, there are plenty of parents who need this money but we can't just hand out money that we don't have. If you want that kind of money, go get a credit card. Don't worry, you don't have to pay it back today but eventually, you will have to pay that money back.I think it is funny how this article states this, "The Roberts are now out $550 a month". No, you aren't out anything. It was never a permanent handout and you never should have relied on it as such.
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