Joe Manchin

static111
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Is a piece of crap and probably the biggest blockage to anything worthwhile getting done.  Also he isn’t helping Dems case for the midterms.  This is the place where we pile on the waste of a senate seat that is Joe Manchin an old white southerner, that is well past his usefulness.
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  • pjl44
    pjl44 Posts: 10,527
    You know it's coming from a rational place when the OP highlights his race but none of the positions or votes they're seemingly upset about
  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,836
    Ah I see you all have found your next devil. Same playbook 
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  • static111
    static111 Posts: 5,076
    pjl44 said:
    You know it's coming from a rational place when the OP highlights his race but none of the positions or votes they're seemingly upset about
    His daughter is the ceo of the company that jacked prices for Epi pen, he’s against raising the minimum wage, he is out of touch with today’s america, supported way too many of trumps picks and policies and like as not there is a special kind of obstruction to forward progress that has centered around rich old white southern males for far too long..
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  • Out of My Mind and Time
    Out of My Mind and Time Posts: 1,333
    The fact you hate him makes me think he is great! And a D?!
  • static111
    static111 Posts: 5,076
    Out of My Mind and Time said:
    The fact you hate him makes me think he is great! And a D?!
    I don’t hate him. 
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  • static111
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    cincybearcat said:
    Ah I see you all have found your next devil. Same playbook 
    Not a devil, a foot dragging enemy of progress.
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  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,408
    cincybearcat said:
    Ah I see you all have found your next devil. Same playbook 

    you all?
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  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,078
    manchin seems like he is republican at times, but look at his record. he is amenable and will never be the one vote that sinks something that is important to dems.

    he needs to budge on this damn filibuster position though. he and sinema are killing us.
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  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,594
    Would you rather have a Trump like Republican from West Virginia or would you rather have a moderate Democrat? 

    Come on people....
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  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,192
    I see him switching parties out of self preservation.
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  • static111
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    Halifax2TheMax said:
    I see him switching parties out of self preservation.
    Definitely one of my worries about him as well
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  • Lerxst1992
    Lerxst1992 Posts: 7,870
    yesterday’s Joe Manchin is today’s senate parliamentarian. 

    If Manchin switches parties then no one will come to kiss his ring.
  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,594
    Lerxst1992 said:
    yesterday’s Joe Manchin is today’s senate parliamentarian. 

    If Manchin switches parties then no one will come to kiss his ring.
    Agreed. He's the second most powerful guy in the country right now, just about. 
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  • static111
    static111 Posts: 5,076
    The Juggler said:
    Lerxst1992 said:
    yesterday’s Joe Manchin is today’s senate parliamentarian. 

    If Manchin switches parties then no one will come to kiss his ring.
    Agreed. He's the second most powerful guy in the country right now, just about. 
    Senate majority leader Manchin...
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  • static111
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    Aside from the (D) what makes this guy anything but a moderate Republican?
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  • Halifax2TheMax
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    static111 said:
    Aside from the (D) what makes this guy anything but a moderate Republican?
    Nothing.
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  • Halifax2TheMax
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    He’s an anomaly and I fully expect him to switch parties, either at the midterm or when Schumer’s patience wears thin and takes punitive action.

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  • cincybearcat
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    So for those of you pissed at someone voting their beliefs and not just with their party...

    Are you now willing to go back and change all your posts about party before country republicans?  

    Y’all confuse me. 
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  • dankind
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    cincybearcat said:
    So for those of you losses at someone voting their beliefs and not just with their party...

    Are you now willing to go back and change all your posts about party before country republicans?  

    Y’all confuse me. 
    Personal beliefs before country is even worse.

    If he’s voting along the lines of the people who put him in office (in this case the electorate of West Virginia), then he’s doing his job. 

    A majority of Americans may want the issues he’s obstructing passed, but West Virginia may not. 

    I understand being pissed because he’s wearing your team’s jersey and playing defense against your team at the same time. 

    But the teams that these people really play for—or are supposed to anyway—are the states/districts that elected them to play. 

    West Virginians likely will not support progressive policies at the federal level within our lifetimes. Manchin’s staffers likely spend their days fielding calls, letters, and emails requesting Manchin vote against most progressive policies. So that’s likely what he does. (See Bernie and gun control for another example.)

    If he’s voting his personal beliefs, then he shouldn’t be a senator. 
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  • static111
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    cincybearcat said:
    So for those of you losses at someone voting their beliefs and not just with their party...

    Are you now willing to go back and change all your posts about party before country republicans?  

    Y’all confuse me. 
    It really looks like he is putting self before country before party. Apparently a majority of WV is in favor of $15 hr minimum, which he’s not. https://www.wdtv.com/2021/02/25/poll-majority-of-west-virginians-support-15-federal-minimum-wage/ Although he does believe that people working 40 hrs a week deserve more than the poverty level...a very low bar. 
    Apparently even the Republican governor of his state says go big on stimulus... https://www.google.com/amp/s/pittsburgh.cbslocal.com/2021/02/27/republican-west-virginia-governor-jim-justice-says-go-big-or-go-home-on-stimulus/amp/
    Oh and west Virginians are also in favor of the Stimulus... https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.newsweek.com/exclusive-poll-1400-stimulus-checks-overwhelmingly-favored-4-states-moderate-gop-senators-1567660%3famp=1
    so who exactly is he working for again?  I’m thinking maybe Moscow Mitchy is dangling a carrot

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