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  • MedozKMedozK Tennessee Posts: 9,209
    MedozK said:
    mrussel1 said:

    I really wish that record sounded better.  Huge missed opportunity. 
    One of the worst mastering jobs I have ever heard. Horribly muddy.
    I’ve heard worse mastering jobs… but agreed it was muddy. There was very little instrument separation and the soundstage was definitely lacking. 
    Again, the second disc without the symphony sounds better, probably only because there is significantly less going on. Whoever mastered this for vinyl needs some BL, KG, RKS, etc. lessons. 

    It is not so bad that I won’t listen to it. I’ve given records away that are simply ear bleeding. 
    Yea, I know... I was just expecting SO much...... and it fell flat.

  • MedozK said:
    MedozK said:
    mrussel1 said:

    I really wish that record sounded better.  Huge missed opportunity. 
    One of the worst mastering jobs I have ever heard. Horribly muddy.
    I’ve heard worse mastering jobs… but agreed it was muddy. There was very little instrument separation and the soundstage was definitely lacking. 
    Again, the second disc without the symphony sounds better, probably only because there is significantly less going on. Whoever mastered this for vinyl needs some BL, KG, RKS, etc. lessons. 

    It is not so bad that I won’t listen to it. I’ve given records away that are simply ear bleeding. 
    Yea, I know... I was just expecting SO much...... and it fell flat.

    You said it Les. 
  • mickeyratmickeyrat up my ass, like Chadwick was up his Posts: 35,418
    MedozK said:
    MedozK said:
    mrussel1 said:

    I really wish that record sounded better.  Huge missed opportunity. 
    One of the worst mastering jobs I have ever heard. Horribly muddy.
    I’ve heard worse mastering jobs… but agreed it was muddy. There was very little instrument separation and the soundstage was definitely lacking. 
    Again, the second disc without the symphony sounds better, probably only because there is significantly less going on. Whoever mastered this for vinyl needs some BL, KG, RKS, etc. lessons. 

    It is not so bad that I won’t listen to it. I’ve given records away that are simply ear bleeding. 
    Yea, I know... I was just expecting SO much...... and it fell flat.

    fair to say expectation significantly colored the criticism?
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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 28,602
    mickeyrat said:
    MedozK said:
    MedozK said:
    mrussel1 said:

    I really wish that record sounded better.  Huge missed opportunity. 
    One of the worst mastering jobs I have ever heard. Horribly muddy.
    I’ve heard worse mastering jobs… but agreed it was muddy. There was very little instrument separation and the soundstage was definitely lacking. 
    Again, the second disc without the symphony sounds better, probably only because there is significantly less going on. Whoever mastered this for vinyl needs some BL, KG, RKS, etc. lessons. 

    It is not so bad that I won’t listen to it. I’ve given records away that are simply ear bleeding. 
    Yea, I know... I was just expecting SO much...... and it fell flat.

    fair to say expectation significantly colored the criticism?
    No.  It's not a B when an A was expected.  It's a C-.
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    Just, not enough.
    I need more.
    Nothing seems to satisfy.
    I said, I dont want it.
    I just need it.
    To breathe, to feel, to know Im alive.
  • mfc2006mfc2006 HTOWN Posts: 37,368
    MedozK said:
    mrussel1 said:

    I really wish that record sounded better.  Huge missed opportunity. 
    One of the worst mastering jobs I have ever heard. Horribly muddy.
    Yup. The mastering was absolutely horrible, which is why I sold my copy a couple of years ago.
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  • mfc2006mfc2006 HTOWN Posts: 37,368
    New sexy mmj album
    Nice! I have the OP, but I've considered grabbing this one as well.
    I LOVE MUSIC.
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  • MedozKMedozK Tennessee Posts: 9,209
    mrussel1 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    MedozK said:
    MedozK said:
    mrussel1 said:

    I really wish that record sounded better.  Huge missed opportunity. 
    One of the worst mastering jobs I have ever heard. Horribly muddy.
    I’ve heard worse mastering jobs… but agreed it was muddy. There was very little instrument separation and the soundstage was definitely lacking. 
    Again, the second disc without the symphony sounds better, probably only because there is significantly less going on. Whoever mastered this for vinyl needs some BL, KG, RKS, etc. lessons. 

    It is not so bad that I won’t listen to it. I’ve given records away that are simply ear bleeding. 
    Yea, I know... I was just expecting SO much...... and it fell flat.

    fair to say expectation significantly colored the criticism?
    No.  It's not a B when an A was expected.  It's a C-.
    Yea, I would say D-
  • GibsonGibson Toronto Posts: 2,507
    Threw U2 - Pop on the ol' spinner thingy last night. I honestly think this album holds up.
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  • mfc2006mfc2006 HTOWN Posts: 37,368
    I finally moved the turntable & amp to the built-in shelves we have. It feels a lot less cluttered & I like having them tucked away. Still absolutely loving the new speakers as well.

    Radiohead - I Might Be Wrong

    The piano version of "Like Spinning Plates" is absolutely gorgeous.


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  • mfc2006mfc2006 HTOWN Posts: 37,368
    Onto the next....love this album.


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  • mfc2006mfc2006 HTOWN Posts: 37,368
    ^^Nice! 
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  • mfc2006mfc2006 HTOWN Posts: 37,368
    Love this album.

    Heartless Bastards - All This Time


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  • Took me 5 years to realise the track listing is in alphabetical order, and yet it flows together perfectly 


  • F Me In The BrainF Me In The Brain this knows everybody from other commets Posts: 30,587
    dankind said:

    Good reminder...need to jam that out.
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  • mfc2006mfc2006 HTOWN Posts: 37,368
    Took me 5 years to realise the track listing is in alphabetical order, and yet it flows together perfectly 


    Fantastic album
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  • May 30thMay 30th Posts: 1,643
    Took me 5 years to realise the track listing is in alphabetical order, and yet it flows together perfectly 


    I never knew this fact until now
  • 1ThoughtKnown1ThoughtKnown Posts: 6,155
    edited January 2022
    Playing this record for the first time in a looooooong time. It was so warped it was unplayable. Received my new vinyl flat yesterday and after two runs through the groovy pouch (one for two hours, one for 2.5 hours) the wax is perfectly flat and sounds good 👍

  • May 30thMay 30th Posts: 1,643
    Playing this record for the first time in a looooooong time. It was so warped it was unplayable. Received my new vinyl flat yesterday and after two runs through the groovy pouch (one for two hours, one for 2.5 hours) the wax is perfectly flat and sounds good 👍

    Ive never heard of that. I have a few albums that are warped that I don’t play. 

    You just put it in and it flattens the record?
  • May 30th said:
    Playing this record for the first time in a looooooong time. It was so warped it was unplayable. Received my new vinyl flat yesterday and after two runs through the groovy pouch (one for two hours, one for 2.5 hours) the wax is perfectly flat and sounds good 👍

    Ive never heard of that. I have a few albums that are warped that I don’t play. 

    You just put it in and it flattens the record?
    I just use the oven with mine but yes. I’ve never gone longer than an hour but I’ve flattened some pretty warped records.  

    I guess getting the pouch means you don’t have to use the oven.  

    great product 
  • 1ThoughtKnown1ThoughtKnown Posts: 6,155
    edited January 2022
    Uses DC to heat a pouch. You put the record between two pieces of metal (protected by thin felt pads) that wingnut together. The metal has some weight to it and the heat (between 130-150F) along with the weight flattens the record without groove distortion.  Make sure the record is very clean (don’t want to bake anything into the grooves) and let it go. Give it some time to cool off…. Really simple. 


    Cost me about $300CDN for the flattener and groovy pouch. Shipping was $50. I’m impressed. Have a King’s X RSD that was badly warped right out of the sleeve baking right now. All 3 of those King’s X RSDs in 2021 were warped. 


  • MedozKMedozK Tennessee Posts: 9,209
    Uses DC to heat a pouch. You put the record between two pieces of metal (protected by thin felt pads) that wingnut together. The metal has some weight to it and the heat (between 130-150F) along with the weight flattens the record without groove distortion.  Make sure the record is very clean (don’t want to bake anything into the grooves) and let it go. Give it some time to cool off…. Really simple. 


    Cost me about $300CDN for the flattener and groovy pouch. Shipping was $50. I’m impressed. Have a King’s X RSD that was badly warped right out of the sleeve baking right now. All 3 of those King’s X RSDs in 2021 were warped. 
    Great product
  • MedozK said:
    Uses DC to heat a pouch. You put the record between two pieces of metal (protected by thin felt pads) that wingnut together. The metal has some weight to it and the heat (between 130-150F) along with the weight flattens the record without groove distortion.  Make sure the record is very clean (don’t want to bake anything into the grooves) and let it go. Give it some time to cool off…. Really simple. 


    Cost me about $300CDN for the flattener and groovy pouch. Shipping was $50. I’m impressed. Have a King’s X RSD that was badly warped right out of the sleeve baking right now. All 3 of those King’s X RSDs in 2021 were warped. 
    Great product
    I was expecting a B or C+ and received an A. 
  • MedozKMedozK Tennessee Posts: 9,209
    MedozK said:
    Uses DC to heat a pouch. You put the record between two pieces of metal (protected by thin felt pads) that wingnut together. The metal has some weight to it and the heat (between 130-150F) along with the weight flattens the record without groove distortion.  Make sure the record is very clean (don’t want to bake anything into the grooves) and let it go. Give it some time to cool off…. Really simple. 


    Cost me about $300CDN for the flattener and groovy pouch. Shipping was $50. I’m impressed. Have a King’s X RSD that was badly warped right out of the sleeve baking right now. All 3 of those King’s X RSDs in 2021 were warped. 
    Great product
    I was expecting a B or C+ and received an A. 
    Yea, I have had one a while, and will endorse it to anyone.
  • 1ThoughtKnown1ThoughtKnown Posts: 6,155
    edited January 2022
    MedozK said:
    MedozK said:
    Uses DC to heat a pouch. You put the record between two pieces of metal (protected by thin felt pads) that wingnut together. The metal has some weight to it and the heat (between 130-150F) along with the weight flattens the record without groove distortion.  Make sure the record is very clean (don’t want to bake anything into the grooves) and let it go. Give it some time to cool off…. Really simple. 


    Cost me about $300CDN for the flattener and groovy pouch. Shipping was $50. I’m impressed. Have a King’s X RSD that was badly warped right out of the sleeve baking right now. All 3 of those King’s X RSDs in 2021 were warped. 
    Great product
    I was expecting a B or C+ and received an A. 
    Yea, I have had one a while, and will endorse it to anyone.
    To be clear, I wasn’t intending to present the product like it is a new thing. I’m aware it’s been around for a decade or so. I read the Steve Hoffman forum discussions on it prior to purchasing as it’s no small investment with the currency exchange and shipping. 

    My original post was just a comment on how happy I was to listen to a Husker Du record that for seemingly forever had been virtually unplayable. Interestingly, folks around here have never heard of it. None of the local record shop keepers I’ve talked to in particular, and all are interested in what I think of it. 

    I took before and after vids with my smartphone to show them.  



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