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  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,882
    1ThoughtKnown said:

    I really wish that record sounded better.  Huge missed opportunity. 
  • 1ThoughtKnown
    1ThoughtKnown Posts: 6,155
    The second disc is good enough, but the mastering on the songs with the symphony isn’t stellar. Pressed at GZ so there is going to be surface noise. I’ve got a couple pops and crackles. 
    Still enjoyed it! 
  • 1ThoughtKnown
    1ThoughtKnown Posts: 6,155

  • MedozK
    MedozK Tennessee Posts: 9,212
    mrussel1 said:
    1ThoughtKnown said:

    I really wish that record sounded better.  Huge missed opportunity. 
    One of the worst mastering jobs I have ever heard. Horribly muddy.
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,882
    MedozK said:
    mrussel1 said:
    1ThoughtKnown said:

    I really wish that record sounded better.  Huge missed opportunity. 
    One of the worst mastering jobs I have ever heard. Horribly muddy.
    Conversely, the cd is pretty decent. So it wasn’t the recording, it was later in the chain as you point out. Likely the mastering. 
  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,436
    mrussel1 said:
    MedozK said:
    mrussel1 said:
    1ThoughtKnown said:

    I really wish that record sounded better.  Huge missed opportunity. 
    One of the worst mastering jobs I have ever heard. Horribly muddy.
    Conversely, the cd is pretty decent. So it wasn’t the recording, it was later in the chain as you point out. Likely the mastering. 

    does that assestment include the 2015 black version?
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  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,882
    mickeyrat said:
    mrussel1 said:
    MedozK said:
    mrussel1 said:
    1ThoughtKnown said:

    I really wish that record sounded better.  Huge missed opportunity. 
    One of the worst mastering jobs I have ever heard. Horribly muddy.
    Conversely, the cd is pretty decent. So it wasn’t the recording, it was later in the chain as you point out. Likely the mastering. 

    does that assestment include the 2015 black version?
    Yes.  I had both (sold the black).  They didn't sound any different.  
  • dankind
    dankind Posts: 20,841

    I SAW PEARL JAM
  • 1ThoughtKnown
    1ThoughtKnown Posts: 6,155
    MedozK said:
    mrussel1 said:
    1ThoughtKnown said:

    I really wish that record sounded better.  Huge missed opportunity. 
    One of the worst mastering jobs I have ever heard. Horribly muddy.
    I’ve heard worse mastering jobs… but agreed it was muddy. There was very little instrument separation and the soundstage was definitely lacking. 
    Again, the second disc without the symphony sounds better, probably only because there is significantly less going on. Whoever mastered this for vinyl needs some BL, KG, RKS, etc. lessons. 

    It is not so bad that I won’t listen to it. I’ve given records away that are simply ear bleeding. 
  • 1ThoughtKnown
    1ThoughtKnown Posts: 6,155

  • MedozK
    MedozK Tennessee Posts: 9,212
    1ThoughtKnown said:
    MedozK said:
    mrussel1 said:
    1ThoughtKnown said:

    I really wish that record sounded better.  Huge missed opportunity. 
    One of the worst mastering jobs I have ever heard. Horribly muddy.
    I’ve heard worse mastering jobs… but agreed it was muddy. There was very little instrument separation and the soundstage was definitely lacking. 
    Again, the second disc without the symphony sounds better, probably only because there is significantly less going on. Whoever mastered this for vinyl needs some BL, KG, RKS, etc. lessons. 

    It is not so bad that I won’t listen to it. I’ve given records away that are simply ear bleeding. 
    Yea, I know... I was just expecting SO much...... and it fell flat.
  • 1ThoughtKnown
    1ThoughtKnown Posts: 6,155

  • 1ThoughtKnown
    1ThoughtKnown Posts: 6,155
    MedozK said:
    1ThoughtKnown said:
    MedozK said:
    mrussel1 said:
    1ThoughtKnown said:

    I really wish that record sounded better.  Huge missed opportunity. 
    One of the worst mastering jobs I have ever heard. Horribly muddy.
    I’ve heard worse mastering jobs… but agreed it was muddy. There was very little instrument separation and the soundstage was definitely lacking. 
    Again, the second disc without the symphony sounds better, probably only because there is significantly less going on. Whoever mastered this for vinyl needs some BL, KG, RKS, etc. lessons. 

    It is not so bad that I won’t listen to it. I’ve given records away that are simply ear bleeding. 
    Yea, I know... I was just expecting SO much...... and it fell flat.

    You said it Les. 
  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,436
    MedozK said:
    1ThoughtKnown said:
    MedozK said:
    mrussel1 said:
    1ThoughtKnown said:

    I really wish that record sounded better.  Huge missed opportunity. 
    One of the worst mastering jobs I have ever heard. Horribly muddy.
    I’ve heard worse mastering jobs… but agreed it was muddy. There was very little instrument separation and the soundstage was definitely lacking. 
    Again, the second disc without the symphony sounds better, probably only because there is significantly less going on. Whoever mastered this for vinyl needs some BL, KG, RKS, etc. lessons. 

    It is not so bad that I won’t listen to it. I’ve given records away that are simply ear bleeding. 
    Yea, I know... I was just expecting SO much...... and it fell flat.

    fair to say expectation significantly colored the criticism?
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    Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
    you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
    memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
    another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,882
    mickeyrat said:
    MedozK said:
    1ThoughtKnown said:
    MedozK said:
    mrussel1 said:
    1ThoughtKnown said:

    I really wish that record sounded better.  Huge missed opportunity. 
    One of the worst mastering jobs I have ever heard. Horribly muddy.
    I’ve heard worse mastering jobs… but agreed it was muddy. There was very little instrument separation and the soundstage was definitely lacking. 
    Again, the second disc without the symphony sounds better, probably only because there is significantly less going on. Whoever mastered this for vinyl needs some BL, KG, RKS, etc. lessons. 

    It is not so bad that I won’t listen to it. I’ve given records away that are simply ear bleeding. 
    Yea, I know... I was just expecting SO much...... and it fell flat.

    fair to say expectation significantly colored the criticism?
    No.  It's not a B when an A was expected.  It's a C-.
  • faceintheclouds
    faceintheclouds Posts: 1,739
    New sexy mmj album
    Just, not enough.
    I need more.
    Nothing seems to satisfy.
    I said, I dont want it.
    I just need it.
    To breathe, to feel, to know Im alive.
  • mfc2006
    mfc2006 HTOWN Posts: 37,491
    MedozK said:
    mrussel1 said:
    1ThoughtKnown said:

    I really wish that record sounded better.  Huge missed opportunity. 
    One of the worst mastering jobs I have ever heard. Horribly muddy.
    Yup. The mastering was absolutely horrible, which is why I sold my copy a couple of years ago.
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  • mfc2006
    mfc2006 HTOWN Posts: 37,491
    faceintheclouds said:
    New sexy mmj album
    Nice! I have the OP, but I've considered grabbing this one as well.
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  • MedozK
    MedozK Tennessee Posts: 9,212
    mrussel1 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    MedozK said:
    1ThoughtKnown said:
    MedozK said:
    mrussel1 said:
    1ThoughtKnown said:

    I really wish that record sounded better.  Huge missed opportunity. 
    One of the worst mastering jobs I have ever heard. Horribly muddy.
    I’ve heard worse mastering jobs… but agreed it was muddy. There was very little instrument separation and the soundstage was definitely lacking. 
    Again, the second disc without the symphony sounds better, probably only because there is significantly less going on. Whoever mastered this for vinyl needs some BL, KG, RKS, etc. lessons. 

    It is not so bad that I won’t listen to it. I’ve given records away that are simply ear bleeding. 
    Yea, I know... I was just expecting SO much...... and it fell flat.

    fair to say expectation significantly colored the criticism?
    No.  It's not a B when an A was expected.  It's a C-.
    Yea, I would say D-
  • Gibson
    Gibson Chicago Posts: 2,671
    Threw U2 - Pop on the ol' spinner thingy last night. I honestly think this album holds up.
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